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Title: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: mystery-ak on August 14, 2020, 05:33:11 pm
Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
by David M. Drucker, Senior Political Correspondent |
 | August 14, 2020 12:21 PM

A majority of voters who plan to support presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden in November are doing so because “he is not” President Trump, according to a new poll of registered voters.

In a Pew Poll conducted prior to Biden selecting Sen. Kamala Harris of California as his running mate, 56% of voters who back the former vice president over Trump said they did so because he is not the Republican incumbent. Just 19% support Biden because of his “leadership/performance,” and only 13% plan to vote for him because of his “personality/temperament.” Just 9% said they like Biden most because of his position on the issues.

Comparatively, 19% of Trump supporters cited “he is not Biden” as their main reason for backing the president. Meanwhile, 23% credited the incumbent’s leadership and performance for their decision to back his reelection, and 21% said they would vote for him because of his personality and temperament. An additional 17% of Trump voters said they support him because “he is for American people and values.”

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Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: HuskyPatriot on August 14, 2020, 06:40:47 pm
Well Mr Trump is that disagreeable to many.  He strikes some as a hostile, vindictive, egotistical man; he's his own worst enemy and seems surrounded by sycophants.   Naturally many will vote for Biden as a vote against Trump, not because they think that he'll be the best alternative.  Mr. T won't change now, so his hardened supporters will vote for him but it may not be enough this year.   If it's too close in November, he'll probably contest it I think.  Biden has to win with a landslide...
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: berdie on August 14, 2020, 08:34:43 pm
Well Mr Trump is that disagreeable to many.  He strikes some as a hostile, vindictive, egotistical man; he's his own worst enemy and seems surrounded by sycophants.   Naturally many will vote for Biden as a vote against Trump, not because they think that he'll be the best alternative.  Mr. T won't change now, so his hardened supporters will vote for him but it may not be enough this year.   If it's too close in November, he'll probably contest it I think.  Biden has to win with a landslide...



I hear exactly where you are coming from. There are many that exclusively listen to the MSM. Even without their spin he sometimes is his own worst enemy.
Plus many have to have a "fall guy" for the "Rona" and all the civil unrest.

I'm voting for Trump. He has done some very good things, imho.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: mountaineer on August 15, 2020, 02:28:22 am
Mr. M was at a 5K race in a nearby town today and talked at length to our state senator, a Republican. He said high-ranking Dems in the legislature have told him privately that no one is enthused about Biden-Harris. Some still will vote for Dementia Joe just to vote against Trump, but we may see a lot of dems not supporting their party's candidate.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: LegalAmerican on August 15, 2020, 04:02:12 am
Well Mr Trump is that disagreeable to many.  He strikes some as a hostile, vindictive, egotistical man; he's his own worst enemy and seems surrounded by sycophants.   Naturally many will vote for Biden as a vote against Trump, not because they think that he'll be the best alternative.  Mr. T won't change now, so his hardened supporters will vote for him but it may not be enough this year.   If it's too close in November, he'll probably contest it I think.  Biden has to win with a landslide...

That just means you and many others have TRUMP ENVY.  He isn't ANY of those things you wrote about.  Why do you listen to LEFT, LYING MEDIA?  Most males have that ALPHA MALE envy.  You all jockey for the best position. You ALL HAVE THE SAME BIG EGO'S.  This means you are not informed about his many good works and allowed LEFT MEDIA TO BRAIN WASH YOU...already having some issues with ALPHA MALES.  LOL  Many stories about his good works for AMERICA and the black race. WWW.MAGAPILL.COM (http://WWW.MAGAPILL.COM)   1986 ELLIS ISLAD AWARD for not being racist.  He also finished That Manhattan skating place, and did not receive any pay for the first year.  He donated his time & money. So many good works.  Why don't you know?  If someone did to you, what LEFT, LYING MEDIA has done to him, you would 'look' the same way.  Many awards given to him!  Jessie Jackson.


1986: Trump, Rosa Parks, Muhammad Ali received ‘Ellis Island’ award
BY KYLE OLSON    SEPTEMBER 4, 2016

No one accused Donald Trump of being a racist until he decided to run for president and became a threat to Hillary Clinton’s return to power.In 1986, Trump joined several other prominent Americans, such as Rosa Parks and Muhammad Ali, as recipients of an “Ellis Island Award.”
One suspects if Trump was a racist, there’s no way he would have posed for a photo with those two.
#DonaldTrump receives Ellis Island Medal of Honor from Nat'l Ethnic Coalition of Organizations w/ Rosa Parks & Ali. pic.twitter.com/zecyjHP0Au
— Jaime T Trump ❤️ (@JaimeTennille) September 2, 2016
The New York Times reported on October 16, 1986:
Eighty Americans from 42 ethnic groups were named yesterday as recipients of the Ellis Island Medal of Honor by the Statue of Liberty-Ellis Island Foundation.
The medals will be presented to the recipients, all either naturalized or native Americans, at a ceremony Oct. 27 on Ellis Island. That is the day before the 100th anniversary of the dedication of the Statue of Liberty, the final event of the 1986 Liberty Centennial observances. …
Those named yesterday were selected from more than 15,000 nominations. The winners, a mixture of prominent and relatively unknown citizens, were screened by the National Ethnic Coalition of Organizations, which was selected for the work by the foundation.
The National Ethnic Coalition of Organizations lists its reasoning behind the awards on its website:
The ELLIS ISLAND MEDALS OF HONOR are awarded annually to a group of distinguished American citizens who exemplify a life dedicated to community service. These are individuals who preserve and celebrate the history, traditions and values of their ancestry while exemplifying the values of the American way of life, and who are dedicated to creating a better world for us all.
It also lists its award recipient criteria, including:
Integrity
Passion
Gravitas
Humanitarian
Ethnic Heritage

If Trump was a racist then, why would he have been honored by such an organization?

Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: Jazzhead on August 15, 2020, 04:05:38 am
This is the tragedy of this election. So many will vote for anyone to be rid of Trump that the Dems have been able to put up a pair of partisans that want to socialize medicine and defund the police. 
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: roamer_1 on August 15, 2020, 04:20:36 am
This is the tragedy of this election. So many will vote for anyone to be rid of Trump that the Dems have been able to put up a pair of partisans that want to socialize medicine and defund the police.

And they will come out in droves. Tumpy has made this all about him, and then whipped the left up into a frothing lather... They will be champing at the bit to vote him down, every_single_one of them.

That's a hard and fast 35% and maybe more, they are so white hot. SO all they need is a fair inroad into indys - maybe 20% and they'll have it made for the popular vote. So it will boil down to another nailbiter by the electoral numbers... And Tumpy ain't doing so good in the contested states.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: sneakypete on August 15, 2020, 04:56:48 am
Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
by David M. Drucker, Senior Political Correspondent |
 | August 14, 2020 12:21 PM

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A majority of voters who plan to support presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden in November are doing so because “he is not” President Trump, according to a new poll of registered voters.

@mystery-ak

Which makes this election identical to every other election in my life time.

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Comparatively, 19% of Trump supporters cited “he is not Biden” as their main reason for backing the president. Meanwhile, 23% credited the incumbent’s leadership and performance for their decision to back his reelection, and 21% said they would vote for him because of his personality and temperament. An additional 17% of Trump voters said they support him because “he is for American people and values.”

What I wrote above also applies here. It's the ying and the yang of politics.

The only difference this time is we have an amateur politician sitting in the White House who will be running against a mental defective career criminal who needs keepers 24/7 to keep him from molesting women and children,and to keep him from chewing his arms off when he gets bored.
 
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: sneakypete on August 15, 2020, 05:01:42 am

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Well Mr Trump is that disagreeable to many.  He strikes some as a hostile, vindictive, egotistical man; he's his own worst enemy and seems surrounded by sycophants.


@HuskyPatriot

You misspelled "Mr Biden".

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Naturally many will vote for Biden as a vote against Trump, not because they think that he'll be the best alternative.  Mr. T won't change now, so his hardened supporters will vote for him but it may not be enough this year. 


IOW,nothing new,but this won't prevent you from spinning it to make Trump look bad and the Retard look good.

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If it's too close in November, he'll probably contest it I think.


Oh,it's going to be contested,alright. Given the Dim record of having dead people,fictional characters,and foreigners voting,you can count on that happening.

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Biden has to win with a landslide..
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Do you really think there are that many retarded voters?
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: sneakypete on August 15, 2020, 05:05:37 am
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And they will come out in droves. Tumpy has made this all about him,

@roamer_1

You mean kinda like you make it all about YOU?

  [quote]They will be champing at the bit to vote him down, every_single_one of them.

You misspelled "RINO's".


Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: roamer_1 on August 15, 2020, 08:37:54 am
@roamer_1

You mean kinda like you make it all about YOU?


Nah @sneakypete ...  None of it is about me. I got no dog in this hunt.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: LegalAmerican on August 16, 2020, 09:30:08 pm
So many WRONG posts on here.  All about TRUMP ENVY.....that is all.  He has does a lot of good for America.  WWW.MAGAPILL.COM (http://WWW.MAGAPILL.COM)     Haters won't get themselves informed.  It has ZERO TO DO WITH POTUS....Their own ENVY AND JEALOUSY OF ANOTHER HUMAN BEING is the problem.  Makes them beta males. ALPHA'S..get it. (Like PETE)  John Kerry, HEINZ, INHERITANCE...they have zero problems with KERRY WEALTH or envy.  DEMON-RAT KERRY. 
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: skeeter on August 16, 2020, 09:35:29 pm
Well Mr Trump is that disagreeable to many.  He strikes some as a hostile, vindictive, egotistical man; he's his own worst enemy and seems surrounded by sycophants.   Naturally many will vote for Biden as a vote against Trump, not because they think that he'll be the best alternative.  Mr. T won't change now, so his hardened supporters will vote for him but it may not be enough this year.   If it's too close in November, he'll probably contest it I think.  Biden has to win with a landslide...
Oh I hope you’re around in November for the postmortem.

You will stick around won’t you?
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: aligncare on August 16, 2020, 10:02:15 pm
Some people say they don’t really like the guy (Trump), but they’re gonna vote for him cause the other guy is worse.

That’s not me. I greatly admire Donald Trump, his skills and accomplishments, his work ethic and his proud Americanism. In my opinion the best president (at the right time) in history. If he wins re-election and performs as proven in his his first term, his achievements in defeating the insurgency in his second term will rank him up with the great presidents in American history.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: skeeter on August 16, 2020, 10:03:38 pm


@HuskyPatriot

You misspelled "Mr Biden".
 

IOW,nothing new,but this won't prevent you from spinning it to make Trump look bad and the Retard look good.
 

Oh,it's going to be contested,alright. Given the Dim record of having dead people,fictional characters,and foreigners voting,you can count on that happening.
.


Do you really think there are that many retarded voters?

To date only the rats have contested elections. Every damn one they lose. The last one they even perpetrated a coup attempt and an impeachment trying to reverse it.

But TRUMP.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: LegalAmerican on August 16, 2020, 10:42:09 pm
Well Mr Trump is that disagreeable to many.  He strikes some as a hostile, vindictive, egotistical man; he's his own worst enemy and seems surrounded by sycophants.   Naturally many will vote for Biden as a vote against Trump, not because they think that he'll be the best alternative.  Mr. T won't change now, so his hardened supporters will vote for him but it may not be enough this year.   If it's too close in November, he'll probably contest it I think.  Biden has to win with a landslide...


Well, he isn't any of those things.  Brain washed much by LEFT MEDIA?  TRUMP ENVY.  MANY HAVE IT.  NOT HOSTILE, VINDICTIVE, EGOTISTICAL.  HE..stands up for America and Americans.  Why are you so ANTI-AMERICAN? 

YOU WANT BIDEN?  You have lost all credibility.   WWW.MAGAPILL.COM (http://WWW.MAGAPILL.COM)   
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: LegalAmerican on August 16, 2020, 11:12:06 pm
Some people say they don’t really like the guy (Trump), but they’re gonna vote for him cause the other guy is worse.

That’s not me. I greatly admire Donald Trump, his skills and accomplishments, his work ethic and his proud Americanism. In my opinion the best president (at the right time) in history. If he wins re-election and performs as proven in his his first term, his achievements in defeating the insurgency in his second term will rank him up with the great presidents in American history.


AGREE.  One has to wonder about people's mental state, NOT TO SEE THAT.   WWW.MAGAPILL.COM (http://WWW.MAGAPILL.COM)  POTUS ENVY. 

LEFTS UNINFORMED.  VENESSA GUILLEN, JENNIFER HUDSON, many children given rides on his helicopter for hospital visits.  25 K to a homeless black gal, 25 K to American soldier who was in Mexico prison, a man who's dad was dying of cancer, 10K.  DOING PROJECTS FOR FREE!   HE IS PAYING FOR THE FUNERAL OF GUILLEN, PERSONALLY.  Many don't know or WANT to know.  Ellis Island award in 1986! For his compassion  Many awards.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: libertybele on August 16, 2020, 11:12:10 pm
And they will come out in droves. Tumpy has made this all about him, and then whipped the left up into a frothing lather... They will be champing at the bit to vote him down, every_single_one of them.

That's a hard and fast 35% and maybe more, they are so white hot. SO all they need is a fair inroad into indys - maybe 20% and they'll have it made for the popular vote. So it will boil down to another nailbiter by the electoral numbers... And Tumpy ain't doing so good in the contested states.

I think you are absolutely right.  Not even so sure though about a nailbiter; too much corruption -- '18 is going to look mild in comparison.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: 240B on August 16, 2020, 11:12:28 pm
As was posted before, an equal or greater number of voters will vote for Trump as a vote against Biden, Harris, and Pelosi. The only way the Democrats can win is by cheating. Unfortunately, they are veteran champions at rigging ballots. We shall see.

Trump and the Republicans better have an actual Army of mediators on hand to oversee the election. The Democrats are going to pull every single trick in their book to try to cheat their way to victory. If the Republicans cannot see that, then either they 'want' to lose, or they are retarded fools.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: LegalAmerican on August 16, 2020, 11:15:11 pm
To date only the rats have contested elections. Every damn one they lose. The last one they even perpetrated a coup attempt and an impeachment trying to reverse it.

But TRUMP.

TRUE.  I see what happened to all those people , they put back on the streets, when mental health clinics were closed down in the 80"s=  They became politicians.  Most became DEMON-RATS.  Vile disgusting people...full of hate.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: skeeter on August 16, 2020, 11:15:43 pm
If the Republicans cannot see that, then either they 'want' to lose, or they are retarded fools.

The former. Many just want to get back to the business of congress - grifting.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: LegalAmerican on August 16, 2020, 11:17:29 pm
As was posted before, an equal or greater number of voters will vote for Trump as a vote against Biden, Harris, and Pelosi. The only way the Democrats can win is by cheating. Unfortunately, they are veteran champions at rigging ballots. We shall see.

Trump and the Republicans better have an actual Army of mediators on hand to oversee the election. The Democrats are going to pull every single trick in their book to try to cheat their way to victory. If the Republicans cannot see that, then either they 'want' to lose, or they are retarded fools.


 :thumbsup:

People who WANT communism are insane.  It means death for them too. 
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: sneakypete on August 17, 2020, 12:46:16 am
Some people say they don’t really like the guy (Trump), but they’re gonna vote for him cause the other guy is worse.

That’s not me. I greatly admire Donald Trump, his skills and accomplishments, his work ethic and his proud Americanism. In my opinion the best president (at the right time) in history. If he wins re-election and performs as proven in his his first term, his achievements in defeating the insurgency in his second term will rank him up with the great presidents in American history.

@aligncare

I neither like him or admire him. I decided to vote for him the night before the first election for two reasons,
1: He wasn't Hillary
2: He is a narcissist,and there is NOTHING more important to him than his accomplishments as President,and how he and they get written in the history books. He can't be bought,he can't be blackmailed,and he damn sure can't be embarrassed,so the Dims are lost when it comes to how to deal with him.

I plan on voting for him in the upcoming elections,too. He accomplished a HELL of a lot in his first term,and the gloves will come off and he should get more done in this second term.

Plus,with any luck at all,his re-election will cause Pelosi and Schiff to commit suicide.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: roamer_1 on August 17, 2020, 12:51:10 am
The former. Many just want to get back to the business of congress - grifting.

Get BACK TO? When did it ever stop?
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: sneakypete on August 17, 2020, 12:51:38 am


Trump and the Republicans better have an actual Army of mediators on hand to oversee the election. The Democrats are going to pull every single trick in their book to try to cheat their way to victory. If the Republicans cannot see that, then either they 'want' to lose, or they are retarded fools.

@240B Oh,they can see it,and are cheering the Dims on. They are mad at him for taking a slot they thought for one of their corrupt Princes that would let them get their "taste" on any sell-out deals. Trump in the WH means there is no "skim" for them to feed on.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: sneakypete on August 17, 2020, 12:52:30 am
The former. Many just want to get back to the business of congress - grifting.
@skeeter
 :yowsa: :yowsa:
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: roamer_1 on August 17, 2020, 12:53:28 am
@240B Oh,they can see it,and are cheering the Dims on. They are mad at him for taking a slot they thought for one of their corrupt Princes that would let them get their "taste" on any sell-out deals. Trump in the WH means there is no "skim" for them to feed on.

You're kidding, right? FIFTEEN FRIGGIN TRILLION DOLLARS.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: LegalAmerican on August 17, 2020, 01:15:07 am
You're kidding, right? 


Did it bother you when OBAMA added more deficit then all presidents combined since GEORGE WASHINGTON?  At least we have a military now for protection.  It was depleted to 1915 standards.  If we are going down, it tis being spent on AMERICANS...and not pallets of trillions sent to IRAN.  7 Trillion to muslim countries.  Rebuilding them..NOT USA.  The deficit is not my concern now, survival is. People receiving their stimulus.  BTW...we do have trillions of cash coming into America. Billions from CHINA. Tell your people to stop with the riots, vandalism and burning, looting of buildings.

 
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Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: LegalAmerican on August 17, 2020, 01:19:35 am
Comment on my "4 J's".

Did lit'l Cannon Hinnant  LIVE NOT MATTER???  PLEASE...PLEASE...PLEASE...help me make this go viral because according to the Mainstream Media, his Live didn't matter enough to print his story.  He was a 5 yr. old lit'l white boy that was riding his bike.  His black neighbor shot  him in the head, in front of the Father and Sister.   I want this viral to show him...HE DOES AND DID MATTER TO US!!!   😓
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: roamer_1 on August 17, 2020, 01:21:58 am

Did it bother you when OBAMA added more deficit then all presidents combined since GEORGE WASHINGTON?  At least we have a military now for protection.  It was depleted to 1915 standards.  If we are going down, it tis being spent on AMERICANS...and not pallets of trillions sent to IRAN.  7 Trillion to muslim countries.  Rebuilding them..NOT USA.  The deficit is not my concern now, survival is. People receiving their stimulus.  BTW...we do have trillions of cash coming into America. Billions from CHINA. Tell your people to stop with the riots, vandalism and burning, looting of buildings.

It bothered me when Geo Bush spent more money than had been CREATED previous to his bailout - That's right. He cost MORE than all the US dollars made in all history before that time.

So OF COURSE it 'bothered me' when Obummer doubled Dubya.

AND Tumpy the Clown is on a roll to QUADRUPLE Obummer..

And folks wonder why I am waxing apoplectic.  *****rollingeyes*****

And I don't give  a single rusty sh*t how you try to justify that. It CANNOT be justified.
Nor should it be tolerated, not to mention voted *for*
You gotta be an idiot to endorse that.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: DB on August 17, 2020, 01:51:29 am
And they will come out in droves. Tumpy has made this all about him, and then whipped the left up into a frothing lather... They will be champing at the bit to vote him down, every_single_one of them.

That's a hard and fast 35% and maybe more, they are so white hot. SO all they need is a fair inroad into indys - maybe 20% and they'll have it made for the popular vote. So it will boil down to another nailbiter by the electoral numbers... And Tumpy ain't doing so good in the contested states.

With BLM and Antifa rioting in the streets and the Dems supporting them to the point of crippling their own police departments resulting in sky rocketing crime I believe the Democrats have made this election all about them. So I'd argue that the in the eyes of many this election is no longer about Trump. And if Trump has any wisdom at all he'll leave it that way.

So my take is unless Trump does something stupid again it is his to lose. All because the Democrats have gone way off the rails placing people in fear in their own neighborhoods.

So this election is likely to be a referendum on whether people want what the Democrat's vision of the future is or keeping what they have in a civil society. Trump isn't in that equation right now.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: The_Reader_David on August 17, 2020, 01:59:07 am
Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump'.  And that might be enough to put him over the top.  Last go round, a lot of people supported Trump because he isn't Hillary Clinton.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: roamer_1 on August 17, 2020, 02:03:46 am
With BLM and Antifa rioting in the streets and the Dems supporting them to the point of crippling their own police departments resulting in sky rocketing crime I believe the Democrats have made this election all about them. So I'd argue that the in the eyes of many this election is no longer about Trump. And if Trump has any wisdom at all he'll leave it that way.

So my take is unless Trump does something stupid again it is his to lose. All because the Democrats have gone way off the rails placing people in fear in their own neighborhoods.

So this election is likely to be a referendum on whether people want what the Democrat's vision of the future is or keeping what they have in a civil society. Trump isn't in that equation right now.

I thought of that. But all those affected areas are deep dark blue - And go read the news they are reading. So no, I doubt it will matter in the cities... Nor will it matter in the rural states... As the rural states will be suitably opposed.
Where it will matter is in the purple states, and in those, the preponderance of votes go to the cities

Michigan will turn out hard against, I bet. But the rest of the rust belt is questionable...
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: DB on August 17, 2020, 02:06:54 am
Back when the Republicans controlled the house we had constant polls telling us of the high disapproval rate of the house.

And when the Dems control it we hear nothing. I wonder how it compares to today's house.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: sneakypete on August 17, 2020, 02:57:42 am
You're kidding, right? FIFTEEN FRIGGIN TRILLION DOLLARS.

@roamer_1

You are delusional. I know you think Trump is stealing 15 Trillion dollars,but I am not responsible for your brain farts.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: Idiot on August 17, 2020, 02:58:33 am
Back when the Republicans controlled the house we had constant polls telling us of the high disapproval rate of the house.

And when the Dems control it we hear nothing. I wonder how it compares to today's house.
The Dems own the polls.....
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: sneakypete on August 17, 2020, 03:00:06 am
It bothered me when Geo Bush spent more money than had been CREATED previous to his bailout - That's right. He cost MORE than all the US dollars made in all history before that time.

So OF COURSE it 'bothered me' when Obummer doubled Dubya.

AND Tumpy the Clown is on a roll to QUADRUPLE Obummer..

And folks wonder why I am waxing apoplectic.  *****rollingeyes*****



@roamer_1

I don't. You are doing it because you are a fool that thinks Trump was the one pushing it,or that there is anything he can do about it.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: roamer_1 on August 17, 2020, 03:01:10 am
@roamer_1

You are delusional. I know you think Trump is stealing 15 Trillion dollars,but I am not responsible for your brain farts.

@sneakypete

I never said he STOLE a damn thing. You said that Tumpy in office kept 'them' from their skim.
Not the case at all... The spigot is turned on full blast 24/7
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: sneakypete on August 17, 2020, 03:01:13 am
Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump'.  And that might be enough to put him over the top.  Last go round, a lot of people supported Trump because he isn't Hillary Clinton.

@The_Reader_David

I am one of them.

This time I am supporting him because he is Trump.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: roamer_1 on August 17, 2020, 03:02:41 am
@roamer_1

I don't. You are doing it because you are a fool that thinks Trump was the one pushing it,or that there is anything he can do about it.

EVERY SINGLE BILL has his name on it.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: sneakypete on August 17, 2020, 03:08:52 am
EVERY SINGLE BILL has his name on it.

@roamer_1

There jist ain't slippin NUTTING past you,is there?

You can't REALLY be that simple.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: roamer_1 on August 17, 2020, 03:10:28 am
@roamer_1

There jist ain't slippin NUTTING past you,is there?

You can't REALLY be that simple.

Poor Tumpy... He can't help it.... Even with a 2/3 Republican government, there's just not a damn thing  he can do. Poor little Tumpy. So helpless.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: EdinVA on August 17, 2020, 03:11:47 am
Back when the Republicans controlled the house we had constant polls telling us of the high disapproval rate of the house.

And when the Dems control it we hear nothing. I wonder how it compares to today's house.
It depends upon who you ask... er poll....
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: LegalAmerican on August 17, 2020, 03:46:06 am
We almost had a zero deficit with BUSH.  Then the DEMON-RATS had control of spending his last 2 years in office.  ALWAYS THE DEMS...it all went wrong under Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi...AGAIN!  NOT ON BUSH.  Things were fine, still DEMON-RATS started the spending and money laundering our tax dollars.  Same as they are doing under POTUS...
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: LegalAmerican on August 17, 2020, 03:53:52 am
@roamer_1

There jist ain't slippin NUTTING past you,is there?

You can't REALLY be that simple.


 888high58888
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: sneakypete on August 17, 2020, 05:49:30 am
Poor Tumpy... He can't help it.... Even with a 2/3 Republican government, there's just not a damn thing  he can do. Poor little Tumpy. So helpless.

@roamer_1

The problem is he has "Republicans" like you.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: catfish1957 on August 17, 2020, 06:05:21 am
Honestly, that statement is an editorial of how god awful bad Biden is as a choice.

Another point, that 56% who took that option in the poll, indicates an abolutely  tepidness in their support of Biden, and are much more likely to stay home November.  Versus Trump supporters who will walk through glass barefooted to get to the polls.

This will amplify during the debates, as it will be painful to the country to watch the dim candidate have trouble putting together a coherent statement.  The biggest danger to Trump will be that he will be made to look ruthless taking out his frustrations on a dementia patient.

Would be a hoot if Trump offered a sympathic voice, and gave a plug to "Visiting Angels" for Joe's needs.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: roamer_1 on August 17, 2020, 06:13:30 am
@roamer_1

The problem is he has "Republicans" like you.

@sneakypete

I ain't been a Republican since 07. It is a party without a conscience, that does not serve. Likely I will never be a Republican again (*SPIT*)

But he sure is tight with Turtle and the moderates in the Senate - You know, where frivolous high spending bills from the Congress could be (and rightly should be) defeated... But no. right on through for Tumpy's rubber stamp.

woohoo.

And all to your applause - while trillions upon trillions of pork, and the programs it represents get written into LAW, and all y'all are happy as clams with the EOs Tumpy throws like candy from the front of the parade... As temporary as a fart in a windstorm.

It's all we could hope for, right?  *****rollingeyes*****
Poor, weak, emasculated Tumpy. He can't help it.
But he fights.
 :silly:
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: Sighlass on August 17, 2020, 06:13:51 am
What? Character Matters ! ".... tell me ain't so, you can't always get a Hillary to run against.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: DB on August 17, 2020, 02:33:01 pm
@roamer_1

The problem is he has "Republicans" like you.

Actaully it is "Republicans" like you who keep voting for this crap. Over and over...
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: HuskyPatriot on August 17, 2020, 05:56:11 pm
Mind you I did comment that he "strikes many as...." meaning he gives that impression to many viewers that may not be used to that forceful, a bit bombastic way of speaking.  It's all very subjective whatever media you tend to watch.  Voting can be a very "knee jerk" reaction. So many voters will simply see his podium speak and NOT his achievements.   I don't think that Trump cares much about the the reactions he can provoke.  That may be an asset.  It's the same deal with Biden.  Voters see him all mushy and emotional, and may vote for him because of that, without seeing the real policies he endorses. Educated voters are needed!!!
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: catfish1957 on August 17, 2020, 06:08:57 pm
Mind you I did comment that he "strikes many as...." meaning he gives that impression to many viewers that may not be used to that forceful, a bit bombastic way of speaking.  It's all very subjective whatever media you tend to watch.  Voting can be a very "knee jerk" reaction. So many voters will simply see his podium speak and NOT his achievements.   I don't think that Trump cares much about the the reactions he can provoke.  That may be an asset.  It's the same deal with Biden.  Voters see him all mushy and emotional, and may vote for him because of that, without seeing the real policies he endorses. Educated voters are needed!!!

My opinion has morphed the past 4 years, in that first I was pretty strongly NT based on his treatment of Cruz, and his consistently bombastic and unnecessarily rude  behavior in Tweetersville.   Then as time has passed (outside fiscal policy), he has functioned pretty well as a conservative.  I also realized that this behavior has functioned as a diversion to keep his enemies so angry, they can't see straight.  No I do not still like him as a person, but that is not what he does for us.  Biden, OTOH, and his socialist lackeys will destroy us.

Choice is pretty easy this time around.  Count me as a Plus 1 vote vs. 2016 (conservative 3rd party) for Trump.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: roamer_1 on August 17, 2020, 06:47:29 pm
My opinion has morphed the past 4 years, in that first I was pretty strongly NT based on his treatment of Cruz, and his consistently bombastic and unnecessarily rude  behavior in Tweetersville.   Then as time has passed (outside fiscal policy), he has functioned pretty well as a conservative.  I also realized that this behavior has functioned as a diversion to keep his enemies so angry, they can't see straight.  No I do not still like him as a person, but that is not what he does for us.  Biden, OTOH, and his socialist lackeys will destroy us.

Choice is pretty easy this time around.  Count me as a Plus 1 vote vs. 2016 (conservative 3rd party) for Trump.

I see literally almost *nothing* conservative done that will last beyond the end of his term. Nothing.
Meanwhile, look at what this Republican Senate and Administration have signed into law.

It should curl your hair.
I think all y'all are being played. By a third-rate con walking y'all right down the garden path.

Needless to say, as I have opined, I will be voting 3rd party.  I require a much higher standard of performance.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: mountaineer on August 17, 2020, 06:59:48 pm
Needless to say, as I have opined, I will be voting 3rd party.  I require a much higher standard of performance.
Your self-righteousness is noted. Good luck.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: roamer_1 on August 17, 2020, 07:16:10 pm
Your self-righteousness is noted. Good luck.

What bullcrap. Self-righteousness doesn't have a damn thing to do with it.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: mountaineer on August 17, 2020, 07:22:18 pm
Okay.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 17, 2020, 08:09:27 pm
What bullcrap. Self-righteousness doesn't have a damn thing to do with it.

Well, the word "self" may be incongruous....
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: catfish1957 on August 17, 2020, 08:19:15 pm
I see literally almost *nothing* conservative done that will last beyond the end of his term. Nothing.
Meanwhile, look at what this Republican Senate and Administration have signed into law.

It should curl your hair.
I think all y'all are being played. By a third-rate con walking y'all right down the garden path.

Needless to say, as I have opined, I will be voting 3rd party.  I require a much higher standard of performance.

I never said I like Trump, nor am happy with several decisons.  But Roamer....   I really have a hard time believing you can't see the difference in a flesh wound vs. a fatal shot, which is pretty much the choice in a couple of months.  I really have a hard time believing that a patriot like you would be complicit (like it or not) in allowing a Biden presidency.  At least with Trump, we have a better chance to fight the Fedzilla fiscal battle, because after 4 years of AOC running our energy policy, the only fiscal issues we. will be discussing is SHTF barter for goods and services.

Let it go man......
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: roamer_1 on August 17, 2020, 08:47:01 pm
I never said I like Trump, nor am happy with several decisons.  But Roamer....   I really have a hard time believing you can't see the difference in a flesh wound vs. a fatal shot, which is pretty much the choice in a couple of months.  I really have a hard time believing that a patriot like you would be complicit (like it or not) in allowing a Biden presidency.  At least with Trump, we have a better chance to fight the Fedzilla fiscal battle, because after 4 years of AOC running our energy policy, the only fiscal issues we. will be discussing is SHTF barter for goods and services.

Let it go man......

Complicit? REALLY? How is my non-vote fro Tumpy AND my non-vote for Buythem in ANY WAY complicit? I get this same bullcrap from my liberal sister... That by my NOT endorsing Buythem, I am de-facto endorsing Tump. I know you are mathematically inclined, and I should not have to explain NULL to you.

And I very literally do not see a difference between the two sides. Really. Go look at what has been passed into law in the past four years, and tell me how it is in ANY way different than the same UN Marxist v Global Corporate Socialist game that's been playing out all the way along.

HELL NO I will not let it go. Y'all wonder why you never win, even when you win? THIS IS WHY.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: catfish1957 on August 17, 2020, 08:50:20 pm
Complicit? REALLY? How is my non-vote fro Tumpy AND my non-vote for Buythem in ANY WAY complicit?

Individually maybe not, but when a quarter to a half  a million of you idly sit by and let AOC take over?  Damned right.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: roamer_1 on August 17, 2020, 08:55:00 pm
Individually maybe not, but when a quarter to a half  a million of you idly sit by and let AOC take over?  Damned right.

Not right. If you want my vote, be DIFFERENT than AOC. My vote is not hard to receive. Be conservative, and embrace the unmovable principles of the factions of Conservatism, and my vote (and a million or ten more) will be forthcoming.

And oddly enough, those principle things are supposed to be what Conservatives are FIGHTING FOR.
Go look at what has been signed into law the past four years. Because that is what you are endorsing. And it sure as hell ain't conservatism.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 17, 2020, 08:59:30 pm
It would be ironic if, at the end of the day, it turns out Trump wins, because he isn't Sloe Joe Biteme.   :tongue2:
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: catfish1957 on August 17, 2020, 09:00:52 pm
Not right. If you want my vote, be DIFFERENT than AOC. My vote is not hard to receive. Be conservative, and embrace the unmovable principles of the factions of Conservatism, and my vote (and a million or ten more) will be forthcoming.

And oddly enough, those principle things are supposed to be what Conservatives are FIGHTING FOR.
Go look at what has been signed into law the past four years. Because that is what you are endorsing. And it sure as hell ain't conservatism.

You and I both know we are pretty damned close politically, and you are maybe the only person I know here as hawkish as I am fiscally. (almost :cool:)
Still, I know enough about tactical battle plans, that you don't just die on hill that you have no chance of winning.  You regroup, re-trench, and fight for another day under a Trump presidency.  Is that too hard to understand?  Because if Biden wins, we have no voice in the argument.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: catfish1957 on August 17, 2020, 09:02:52 pm
It would be ironic if, at the end of the day, it turns out Trump wins, because he isn't Sloe Joe Biteme.   :tongue2:

You mean there might be some people put off by the Slow Joe and Hoe ticket?   :cool:
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: berdie on August 17, 2020, 09:07:08 pm
I see literally almost *nothing* conservative done that will last beyond the end of his term. Nothing.
Meanwhile, look at what this Republican Senate and Administration have signed into law.

It should curl your hair.
I think all y'all are being played. By a third-rate con walking y'all right down the garden path.

Needless to say, as I have opined, I will be voting 3rd party.  I require a much higher standard of performance.


Well, @roamer_1 I know we disagree on this issue. No matter...disagreement makes the world go round. I don't feel like I am being conned at all. All politicians are cons. They may not be when they start out...but circumstances will change who they are. Like you, I would like to vote for a statesman who is devoid of politics. But in our lifetime and probably never is that going to happen. It makes me sad. Because if it did the Washington elite would eat them alive. The third parties don't have ballot access in every state nor do they have the funding. If you know of a party/candidate that has a shot, please let me know. The only third party I'm aware of that has gained traction is Libertarian. They have seated pols in Congress in the past...not sure about today and not going to look. I have some L beliefs but a lot of their platform goes against my grain.

I will confess, I voted Perot in that election. Even with funding and a good following...you and I both know how that ended.

Sure, I'm voting for Trump. The Dems aren't even trying to hide who they are. I deeply respect your opinion and I love our freedom (today at least) to exercise that freedom at the ballot box.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: roamer_1 on August 17, 2020, 09:18:48 pm
You and I both know we are pretty damned close politically, and you are maybe the only person I know here as hawkish as I am fiscally. (almost :cool:)
Still, I know enough about tactical battle plans, that you don't just die on hill that you have no chance of winning.  You regroup, re-trench, and fight for another day under a Trump presidency.  Is that too hard to understand?  Because if Biden wins, we have no voice in the argument.

We have no voice in the argument NOW.  We are not winning NOW. And that's the point.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: aligncare on August 17, 2020, 09:21:43 pm
Individually maybe not, but when a quarter to a half  a million of you idly sit by and let AOC take over?  Damned right.

In the aggregate, that’s true. But, does exercising one’s franchise amount to abetting? Or is it just voting your conscience? It’s like one of those questions in philosophy 101. Kinda fuzzy.

I understand the rational behind the latter. But I can’t agree unless one seriously assesses the danger and takes ownership for their vote when socialism takes over government and spoils a perfectly good country and ruins millions of lives.

That would bother my conscience a heck of a lot more than making sure I took a principled stance, rather than casting a strategic vote.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: roamer_1 on August 17, 2020, 09:33:11 pm

Well, @roamer_1 I know we disagree on this issue. No matter...disagreement makes the world go round. I don't feel like I am being conned at all. All politicians are cons. They may not be when they start out...but circumstances will change who they are. Like you, I would like to vote for a statesman who is devoid of politics. But in our lifetime and probably never is that going to happen. It makes me sad. Because if it did the Washington elite would eat them alive. The third parties don't have ballot access in every state nor do they have the funding. If you know of a party/candidate that has a shot, please let me know. The only third party I'm aware of that has gained traction is Libertarian. They have seated pols in Congress in the past...not sure about today and not going to look. I have some L beliefs but a lot of their platform goes against my grain.

I will confess, I voted Perot in that election. Even with funding and a good following...you and I both know how that ended.

Sure, I'm voting for Trump. The Dems aren't even trying to hide who they are. I deeply respect your opinion and I love our freedom (today at least) to exercise that freedom at the ballot box.

Hi @berdie ,
Smaller parties will never have the ability to succeed without folks getting behind them to push.
I am actively considering full blown support of the Constitution Party, and putting my bet on them... To include all the things I used to do for Republicans. My abilities and connections would bring mega dough in for them - What they would consider mega-dough... You pull six figures down for Republicans, it is but a pittance. So my effect would be ten-fold there, and in direct support of what I actually believe in. Not merely another decade of lip service.

I cannot see that being any longer a game than the thirty plus years I gave to the big Rinestone 'R'.
And in all the life I have left, they could not possibly betray me as badly. So I really don't care about viability. That which is not viable can be made viable. I really don't care about this election (I always said I have no dog in this hunt, and nothing has happened to change that). If I have to play the long game it certainly won't be the same one that wasted most of my political life.

So IF I get back in, that's how. Otherwise, I will fold up the tent and fall back into the Christian Right, another way to practice Conservatism and make a difference. I know I will NOT vote for that which I oppose. No more mulligans.

All the best and much respect, right back atcha.  :beer:
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: roamer_1 on August 17, 2020, 09:37:09 pm
In the aggregate, that’s true. But, does exercising one’s franchise amount to abetting?

It certainly does in what one votes *for*. Your endorsement is what makes you complicit.

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I understand the rational behind the latter. But I can’t agree unless one seriously assesses the danger and takes ownership for their vote when socialism takes over government and spoils a perfectly good country and ruins millions of lives.

Which socialism? The one you're for, or the one you're against?

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That would bother my conscience a heck of a lot more than making sure I took a principled stance, rather than casting a strategic vote.

There is nothing strategic in voting FOR that which you oppose.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: roamer_1 on August 17, 2020, 09:43:26 pm
You and I both know we are pretty damned close politically, and you are maybe the only person I know here as hawkish as I am fiscally. (almost :cool:)

And btw, yeah, I know.  :beer:
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: catfish1957 on August 17, 2020, 09:47:05 pm
In the aggregate, that’s true. But, does exercising one’s franchise amount to abetting? Or is it just voting your conscience? It’s like one of those questions in philosophy 101. Kinda fuzzy.

I understand the rational behind the latter. But I can’t agree unless one seriously assesses the danger and takes ownership for their vote when socialism takes over government and spoils a perfectly good country and ruins millions of lives.

That would bother my conscience a heck of a lot more than making sure I took a principled stance, rather than casting a strategic vote.

In most of my life time 45 yrs of voting, Though "R" was always preferable choice,  "D" was not necessarily dangerous to the basic precepts of our well being as a society.  That has now changed.  It is now a fight for survival, and the socialist left will have no mercy in their quest to destroy us, our freedoms, and individual wealth.  And IMO, I'd prefer doing everything we can at this point to prevent that.  Even if it means postponing the conservative purity litmus test.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: berdie on August 17, 2020, 09:50:18 pm
@roamer_1  :beer:
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: dfwgator on August 17, 2020, 10:04:09 pm
And the vast majority of Romney voters voted for him because he's not Obama.  How did that work out for him.

Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: DB on August 17, 2020, 10:17:25 pm
And the vast majority of Romney voters voted for him because he's not Obama.  How did that work out for him.

That is true.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: LegalAmerican on August 17, 2020, 10:27:46 pm
I felt the same way.  After the way Cruz was treated by Trump I did not vote for Trump or anyone in 2016.  If I have to walk barefooted to my precinct this year to vote for Trump, I will. There is just WAY TOO MUCH on the line this time around.

Sorry, that is backwards propaganda, about CRUZ AND TRUMP.  It was CRUZ...who attacked Trump & Melania..Then TRUMP said,  "be careful ted'.  You need to ask Ben Carson & Marco Rubio, what they have to say about TED.  Don't you know by now, it is all BACKWARDS and lies by media to demonize INNOCENT TRUMP?   POPE makes nasty comment about POTUS,  media says.  "TRUMP ATTACKS POPE".  Not that POTUS WAS,  REPLYING TO POPE ATTACK.    


Yeah. CRUZ attacks Melania,  FIRST.  CRUZ, never knows what is going on, like when he supported TPP...then blamed someone else for HIM voting, for that destructive plan.  Melania was attacked first.

BTW..That is a DIAMOND AD IN GENTLEMAN'S QUARTERLY MAGAZINE.  Melania was a high fashion model. 

NOW, Roger STONE, did a piece on Ted and his dad.  TRUMP had nothing to do with that, but he was blamed for that too.
Funny, how Ted never knows, who did what, but can blame TRUMP for everything, TRUMP...did not do. 

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeDOlO6ah1Y#)

Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: LegalAmerican on August 17, 2020, 10:46:37 pm
Melania was NOT NUDE.  That was a lie too.  SHE WAS BEHIND FUR AND DIAMONDS!  NOTHING WAS SHOWN.  YOU CAN SEE MORE IN A BATHING SUIT.  Her chest was not naked.  More lies. Fur was hiding most of her breasts. So, can we drop what TRUMP did, about Heidi?  TED STARTED IT.  Golden Sacks  gave TED MONEY for his campaign, which TED DID NOT LIST.  Hi wife works for Sachs bank.
-------------------------------
Oh yeah, "..it's another thing to come after my wife.  Even for Donald, he's reached a new low" --- well, Lyin' Ted, you started this by having your organization send out that picture of Melania.  You triggered the response you've received and more power to Donald for standing up for Melania, our beautiful, smart 'first-lady-to-be'....

WHO THE HELL STARTED IT.  YOU KNOW IT WAS CRUZ LIEN TED

Ted, your people started it


Does Heidi's association with Goldman Sachs trouble you? 
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: DB on August 17, 2020, 11:12:18 pm
Melania was NOT NUDE.  That was a lie too.  SHE WAS BEHIND FUR AND DIAMONDS!  NOTHING WAS SHOWN.  YOU CAN SEE MORE IN A BATHING SUIT.  Her chest was not naked.  More lies. Fur was hiding most of her breasts. So, can we drop what TRUMP did, about Heidi?  TED STARTED IT.  Golden Sacks  gave TED MONEY for his campaign, which TED DID NOT LIST.  Hi wife works for Sachs bank.
-------------------------------
Oh yeah, "..it's another thing to come after my wife.  Even for Donald, he's reached a new low" --- well, Lyin' Ted, you started this by having your organization send out that picture of Melania.  You triggered the response you've received and more power to Donald for standing up for Melania, our beautiful, smart 'first-lady-to-be'....

WHO THE HELL STARTED IT.  YOU KNOW IT WAS CRUZ LIEN TED

Ted, your people started it


Does Heidi's association with Goldman Sachs trouble you?

Unbelievable...

Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: LegalAmerican on August 17, 2020, 11:31:30 pm
Unbelievable...

What is unbelievable?  Do you know how to post a Picture?  FIND THAT GENTLEMAN'S QUARTERLY AD. THE DIAMOND AD.
OR TELL ME HOW TO DO THAT.  Nothing had to be blurred out.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 17, 2020, 11:33:30 pm
And the vast majority of Romney voters voted for him because he's not Obama.  How did that work out for him.

It tells you that running a campaign as "Not the other guy" is a shit-losing strategy...which goes to the original topic of this thread.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: sneakypete on August 18, 2020, 12:06:29 am
What bullcrap. Self-righteousness doesn't have a damn thing to do with it.

I require a much higher standard of performance.

@roamer_1

Uhhhhhhhh.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: sneakypete on August 18, 2020, 12:13:27 am
It would be ironic if, at the end of the day, it turns out Trump wins, because he isn't Sloe Joe Biteme.   :tongue2:

@Cyber Liberty

I REALLY,REALLY,REALLY hope I am wrong,but I honestly suspect it is all irrelevant because there won't be an election. The Dims will pull some sort of stunt they already have planned at the last minute.

I have no idea what it is,but I suspect it will involve violence on a level that will require Martial Law.

Maybe a bomb or bombs,maybe assassinations,maybe large fires in cities.

Whatever it will be,it will have to be big enough to shut down the elections and the campaigning.

I wouldn't even be surprised if the Dims aren't planning on using manufactured "evidence" where people commit perjury under oath as they testify to crimes  allegedly committed by Trump.

Don't forget,all they need is perjured testimony from multiple witnesses,and to buy out a few more alleged Republican Senators and Congresscritters.

A conviction isn't necessary,either. All it would take for Dave and Denise Dumbass  to think there is enough evidence he MUST be guilty,and combine that with the RINO vote,and he is impeached.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: LegalAmerican on August 18, 2020, 12:14:28 am
I see literally almost *nothing* conservative done that will last beyond the end of his term. Nothing.
Meanwhile, look at what this Republican Senate and Administration have signed into law.

It should curl your hair.
I think all y'all are being played. By a third-rate con walking y'all right down the garden path.

Needless to say, as I have opined, I will be voting 3rd party.  I require a much higher standard of performance.



Then, you,  would not be part of the human race.  lol.  3rd party, are normally GREEN parties and communists. 

HIGH STANDARD?  WHOSE?   WWW.MAGAPILL.COM (http://WWW.MAGAPILL.COM)  Cannot,  get any better than POTUS TRUMP.  PROVEN.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: libertybele on August 18, 2020, 12:18:11 am
@Cyber Liberty

I REALLY,REALLY,REALLY hope I am wrong,but I honestly suspect it is all irrelevant because there won't be an election. The Dims will pull some sort of stunt they already have planned at the last minute.

I have no idea what it is,but I suspect it will involve violence on a level that will require Martial Law.

Maybe a bomb or bombs,maybe assassinations,maybe large fires in cities.

Whatever it will be,it will have to be big enough to shut down the elections and the campaigning.

I wouldn't even be surprised if the Dims aren't planning on using manufactured "evidence" where people commit perjury under oath as they testify to crimes  allegedly committed by Trump.

Whew... @sneakypete   I've had my doubts that we'll make it to another election.  Your ideas are above and beyond my 'theory' that there will be voter intimidation at the polls ... but the rioting has never stopped and there's no reason to believe that they won't escalate around election day.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: LegalAmerican on August 18, 2020, 12:20:40 am
@Cyber Liberty

I REALLY,REALLY,REALLY hope I am wrong,but I honestly suspect it is all irrelevant because there won't be an election. The Dims will pull some sort of stunt they already have planned at the last minute.

I have no idea what it is,but I suspect it will involve violence on a level that will require Martial Law.

Maybe a bomb or bombs,maybe assassinations,maybe large fires in cities.

Whatever it will be,it will have to be big enough to shut down the elections and the campaigning.

I wouldn't even be surprised if the Dims aren't planning on using manufactured "evidence" where people commit perjury under oath as they testify to crimes  allegedly committed by Trump.


Yes, You have learned to 'channel' the LEFTS BRAIN.  Anything goes, to win power for themselves.  People are still thinking we are in 'AMERICA'  and expect our laws, constitution,  to continue.  That is delusional thinking.  I have said, POTUS TRUMP MAY BE OUR LAST PRESIDENT.   They did manufacture for NIXON on Watergate, to remove him.  Tried to do that with TRUMP., (Shiffy lies) ..and as PELOSI said, NIXON WAS EASIER TO REMOVE.  People don't get we are fighting for our very survival and want to bash POTUS.  Stalin/Lenin, said. USEFUL IDIOTS.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: roamer_1 on August 18, 2020, 12:39:58 am

Then, you,  would not be part of the human race.  lol.  3rd party, are normally GREEN parties and communists.

Bullcrap.

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HIGH STANDARD? 

Conservatism. Principled Conservatism. And nothing else.

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WHOSE?   WWW.MAGAPILL.COM (http://WWW.MAGAPILL.COM)  Cannot,  get any better than POTUS TRUMP.  PROVEN.

Yeah, you keep on pimping that debunked list of crap like it means something.
I don't need your propaganda anymore than I need the democrats.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: roamer_1 on August 18, 2020, 12:41:54 am
@roamer_1

Uhhhhhhhh.

That was a brilliant reply. Tell me, were you picking your nose when you made it?
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: Idiot on August 18, 2020, 05:45:09 pm
Your self-righteousness is noted. Good luck.
BAMMMMM!!!
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: roamer_1 on August 18, 2020, 05:46:23 pm
BAMMMMM!!!

REALLY? Explain how adhering to principles that we ALL are supposed to defend is 'self righteous'?
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: Idiot on August 18, 2020, 05:47:06 pm
Individually maybe not, but when a quarter to a half  a million of you idly sit by and let AOC take over?  Damned right.
You are wasting your breath.  Maybe they just want attention? happy77
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: Idiot on August 18, 2020, 05:49:11 pm
Melania was NOT NUDE.  That was a lie too.  SHE WAS BEHIND FUR AND DIAMONDS!  NOTHING WAS SHOWN.  YOU CAN SEE MORE IN A BATHING SUIT.  Her chest was not naked.  More lies. Fur was hiding most of her breasts. So, can we drop what TRUMP did, about Heidi?  TED STARTED IT.  Golden Sacks  gave TED MONEY for his campaign, which TED DID NOT LIST.  Hi wife works for Sachs bank.
-------------------------------
Oh yeah, "..it's another thing to come after my wife.  Even for Donald, he's reached a new low" --- well, Lyin' Ted, you started this by having your organization send out that picture of Melania.  You triggered the response you've received and more power to Donald for standing up for Melania, our beautiful, smart 'first-lady-to-be'....

WHO THE HELL STARTED IT.  YOU KNOW IT WAS CRUZ LIEN TED

Ted, your people started it


Does Heidi's association with Goldman Sachs trouble you?
Cruz's father killed JFK.  Rationalize that one will ya.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: roamer_1 on August 18, 2020, 05:53:17 pm
You are wasting your breath.  Maybe they just want attention? happy77

Nah, I am just not moved by the same damn lame argument made every_single_election. Point at the other side, scream 'we're all gonna die!', and suddenly WHATEVER 'your side has done doesn't matter at all anymore.

No accountability. No consequence. No sale.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: libertybele on August 18, 2020, 05:56:33 pm
Cruz's father killed JFK.  Rationalize that one will ya.

 22222frying pan   Please don't encourage more absurd ignorant statements from her! 
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: HuskyPatriot on August 18, 2020, 06:20:05 pm


@HuskyPatriot

You misspelled "Mr Biden".
 

IOW,nothing new,but this won't prevent you from spinning it to make Trump look bad and the Retard look good.
 

Oh,it's going to be contested,alright. Given the Dim record of having dead people,fictional characters,and foreigners voting,you can count on that happening.
.


Do you really think there are that many retarded voters?

Please don't put me in a pile of anti-T folks just because I post a note about "some folks see Trump as..."  I'm not necessarily in that group or into "spinning" anything.  Anyone can look bad to others without any help from someone else.  Any negative feelings about Trump and his personality are not I think sufficient for a Biden landslide, "retards" or not!!  All Trump has to do is be himself and let the Democrats implode.  They won't get any extra voters from this "Convention" fiasco!!! It's all for "card carrying" members anyway.... El Presidente is gaining in the polls for a reason.  :seeya:
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: mystery-ak on August 18, 2020, 06:27:26 pm
Please don't put me in a pile of anti-T folks just because I post a note about "some folks see Trump as..."  I'm not necessarily in that group or into "spinning" anything.  Anyone can look bad to others without any help from someone else.  Any negative feelings about Trump and his personality are not I think sufficient for a Biden landslide, "retards" or not!!  All Trump has to do is be himself and let the Democrats implode.  They won't get any extra voters from this "Convention" fiasco!!! It's all for "card carrying" members anyway.... El Presidente is gaining in the polls for a reason.  :seeya:

Many here share your POV.. happy77
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: LegalAmerican on August 18, 2020, 06:32:49 pm
Cruz's father killed JFK.  Rationalize that one will ya.

There is a picture of Cruz's dad at the assassination.  It was an article in the ENQUIRER.  I was not there. No one said his dad 'killed' JFK.  What is to rationalize?  I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or NOT. I know TED..backed off, right away, after that article. 

This is on CNN!      Fiction writing, lying, CNN!

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsznEsxOPkE#)


"great reporting CNN Donald Trump doubles down I never double down he explained the BS of the media they showed a picture and the media added the caption imagine that"=COMMENT ON SITE
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: catfish1957 on August 18, 2020, 07:04:32 pm
There is a picture of Cruz's dad at the assassination.  It was an article in the ENQUIRER. 


Please don't tell me you just cited the National Enquirer for reference.

Pleaze........
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: roamer_1 on August 18, 2020, 07:09:59 pm
There is a picture of Cruz's dad at the assassination.  It was an article in the ENQUIRER.

There you have it folks. Tumpism on parade.

 :boring: :yawn2:
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: LegalAmerican on August 18, 2020, 07:11:52 pm
Please don't tell me you just cited the National Enquirer for reference.

Pleaze........

JUST STATING A FACT.  There is a picture.  If it isn't on Enquirer, would you believe the picture then?  lol  Google it.  Then  you can say you saw it on google.  What is the diff?  BTW  Even Enquirer, had it correct on a senator and his cheating. Can't remember the name.  Ted?  His wife was dying from cancer, had an affair & child with blond, 'Journalist'.  ENQUIRER WAS CORRECT.  Oh, and those shoes O.J. wore, who claimed he never wore that brand.  "Man"..something? Enquirer showed a picture of o.j. wearing them. 
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: LegalAmerican on August 18, 2020, 07:19:09 pm
There you have it folks. Tumpism on parade.

 :boring: :yawn2:

Because there is a picture,  documenting Raphael at the site?  WOW.  What does that have to do with POTUS?  I am just reminding people, there was a picture that Enquirer ran.  You must be TED supporter and don't like, FACTS?  You can't just look at a picture, make up your own mind, you have to try and minimize me somehow?   **nononono*
 :google:  All that post, by you,  means, I am correct.  BTW. LISTEN TO THE VIDEO. 

Picture of Ted's dad and Lee Harvey Oswald....having breakfast together.  Make up your own minds.

 MEDIA IS A LYING PIECE OF SHYT..I would believe Enquirer before..ANY MEDIA. 
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: roamer_1 on August 18, 2020, 07:22:21 pm
Because there is a picture,  documenting Raphael at the site?  WOW.  What does that have to do with POTUS?  I am just reminding people, there was a picture that Enquirer ran.  You must be TED supporter and don't like, FACTS?  You can't just look at a picture, make up your own mind, you have to try and minimize me somehow?   **nononono*
 :google:  All that post, by you,  means, I am correct.  BTW. LISTEN TO THE VIDEO.

No, that picture could be about anyone. It is grainy and shows nothing. The picture is not evidence.

But I do not belittle you... To the contrary, I consider you the very epitome of Tumpy's information services. Carry on!

(and screw your video)
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: DB on August 18, 2020, 07:29:33 pm
Because there is a picture,  documenting Raphael at the site?  WOW.  What does that have to do with POTUS?  I am just reminding people, there was a picture that Enquirer ran.  You must be TED supporter and don't like, FACTS?  You can't just look at a picture, make up your own mind, you have to try and minimize me somehow?   **nononono*
 :google:  All that post, by you,  means, I am correct.  BTW. LISTEN TO THE VIDEO.

You know that is an actual picture of Rafael how?

And you know that the guy who owned the National Inquirer is a close friend of Trump right?

And the National Inquirer got busted for paying hush money to one of Trump's sexual conquests which led to it being sold in lieu of going bankrupt?
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: Mod1 on August 18, 2020, 07:32:32 pm
This thread is not about Ted Cruz nor his father. Get back on track.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: LegalAmerican on August 18, 2020, 07:34:12 pm
No, that picture could be about anyone. It is grainy and shows nothing. The picture is not evidence.

But I do not belittle you... To the contrary, I consider you the very epitome of Tumpy's information services. Carry on!

(and screw your video)


Typical LEFT....will not listen to facts and a video.  Evidence of what?  You DON'T GET, that LEFT, MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU?  YOU HAVE TO COME AT ME?  SHAME.  WWW.MAGAPILL.COM (http://WWW.MAGAPILL.COM)   Yes, I am a patriot, who loves America and who lived STARVING SOCIALISM and I do not want to do that again!  YOU?     Neither did Ted's father, who escaped Cuba, and was very much DOWN on your Obama,  who IS A MARXIST.  COMMUNIST.  OK. I AM DONE.

 YOU WON'T LISTEN TO LOGIC OR REASON OR FACTS.  HEAD IN SAND, OSTRICH, YOU.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: LegalAmerican on August 18, 2020, 07:34:57 pm
This thread is not about Ted Cruz nor his father. Get back on track.

Thank you.  I agree. 
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: catfish1957 on August 18, 2020, 07:37:43 pm
JUST STATING A FACT.  There is a picture.  If it isn't on Enquirer, would you believe the picture then?  lol  Google it.  Then  you can say you saw it on google.  What is the diff?  BTW  Even Enquirer, had it correct on a senator and his cheating. Can't remember the name.  Ted?  His wife was dying from cancer, had an affair & child with blond, 'Journalist'.  ENQUIRER WAS CORRECT.  Oh, and those shoes O.J. wore, who claimed he never wore that brand.  "Man"..something? Enquirer showed a picture of o.j. wearing them.


Shhhhhh.  and I am honestly trying to be nice.   Don't make it worse on yourself
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: roamer_1 on August 18, 2020, 07:44:33 pm

Typical LEFT....will not listen to facts and a video.  Evidence of what?  You DON'T GET, that LEFT, MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU?  YOU HAVE TO COME AT ME?  SHAME.  WWW.MAGAPILL.COM (http://WWW.MAGAPILL.COM)   Yes, I am a patriot, who loves America and who lived STARVING SOCIALISM and I do not want to do that again!  YOU?     Neither did Ted's father, who escaped Cuba, and was very much DOWN on your Obama,  who IS A MARXIST.  COMMUNIST.  OK. I AM DONE.

 YOU WON'T LISTEN TO LOGIC OR REASON OR FACTS.  HEAD IN SAND, OSTRICH, YOU.


MEH. I tore down your nonsense years ago. Nothing has changed.
Title: Re: Majority of Biden voters support him because 'he's not Trump': Poll
Post by: sneakypete on August 19, 2020, 12:12:49 am
Please don't tell me you just cited the National Enquirer for reference.

Pleaze........

@catfish1957

Could have been worse. It could have been CBS,ABC,NBC,or CNN.