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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: mystery-ak on May 05, 2016, 02:03:21 am
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http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/278793-trump-im-open-to-cruz-as-vp
May 04, 2016, 08:49 pm
Trump: I’m open to Cruz as VP
By Mark Hensch
Getty Images
Donald Trump on Wednesday said that he would consider making Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) his running mate.
“I respect Ted,” he told host Bill O’Reilly on Fox News’ “The O’Reilly Factor." "He was a very strong competitor. He really competed hard and tough."
“He’s certainly a capable guy,” the presumptive GOP presidential nominee added. "It’s something we can think about.”
Trump defeated Cruz in Tuesday’s Indiana GOP presidential primary, making him the presumptive nominee.
Cruz suspended his Oval Office bid shortly afterward, saying that his results in the Hoosier State “foreclose” his path to the Republican presidential nomination.
Trump on Wednesday said that he does not resent Cruz for their often bitter contest against each another.
“It’s an easy thing,” he said of the nominating process. "He said some things and he made some things up and he took some things that were said out of context.”
Reports emerged earlier on Wednesday that retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson would serve on a selection committee for finding Trump’s running mate.
Carson, another former GOP presidential candidate, will help Trump make his pick before the Republican National Convention in Cleveland in July.
Trump on Wednesday said that Carson’s involvement stems from his reluctance in becoming the vice presidential nominee himself.
“I don’t think Ben’s looking at that,” he said. "He’s a friend of mine. He’s been so helpful. He’s a terrific guy.”
Trump additionally reiterated that he is also eyeing Gov. John Kasich (R-Ohio), who suspended his White House run earlier Wednesday.
“I would certainly consider him,” he said. "During the debates I’d always find myself talking to John. I’ve had a good relationship with him, so we’ll see how that turns out.
“I don’t want to talk too much about it as I am considering a couple of people. We do have a lot of candidates who would be very, very good."
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Lying Ted? THe guy you accused of being the son of the JFK assassination collaborator?
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Donald Trump on Wednesday said that he would consider making Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) his running mate.
Would be worth losing Cruz to the dark side to see the heads of the Trumpbots explode.
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Ted Cruz has a political future. Trump doesn't.
Cruz would be out of his mind to take any position in a Trump campaign or (God forbid) administration.
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Lying Ted? THe guy you accused of being the son of the JFK assassination collaborator?
Trump is open to having his VP be the lyingest liar who ever lied a lying lie? LOL...he claims he doesn't drink.
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#f'cktrump.
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Title:
"Trump: I’m open to Cruz as VP"
I'm not.
Let the senator from Alberta mellow a few more years. Or nominate him for Scalia's seat on The Court, if you dare.
I'd rather see Scott Walker of Wisconsin as the VP candidate. He's a personable guy, committed conservative, acceptable to just about everyone, and has the best record of accomplishment of any Republican governor today.
Making him VP would not only smooth Trump's relationship with the Party and with the Congress, it will groom Walker for the job after Trump departs.
One last thought:
The "natural born citizenship" attacks on Cruz will not stop if he is Trump's choice.
The 'rats will attack as fervently as they ever do...
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#f'cktrump.
Do you think that adds to the forum?
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http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/278793-trump-im-open-to-cruz-as-vp
May 04, 2016, 08:49 pm
Trump: I’m open to Cruz as VP
By Mark Hensch
Getty Images
Donald Trump on Wednesday said that he would consider making Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) his running mate.
“I respect Ted,” he told host Bill O’Reilly on Fox News’ “The O’Reilly Factor." "He was a very strong competitor. He really competed hard and tough."
“He’s certainly a capable guy,” the presumptive GOP presidential nominee added. "It’s something we can think about.”
Trump defeated Cruz in Tuesday’s Indiana GOP presidential primary, making him the presumptive nominee.
Cruz suspended his Oval Office bid shortly afterward, saying that his results in the Hoosier State “foreclose” his path to the Republican presidential nomination.
Trump on Wednesday said that he does not resent Cruz for their often bitter contest against each another.
“It’s an easy thing,” he said of the nominating process. "He said some things and he made some things up and he took some things that were said out of context.”
Reports emerged earlier on Wednesday that retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson would serve on a selection committee for finding Trump’s running mate.
Carson, another former GOP presidential candidate, will help Trump make his pick before the Republican National Convention in Cleveland in July.
Trump on Wednesday said that Carson’s involvement stems from his reluctance in becoming the vice presidential nominee himself.
“I don’t think Ben’s looking at that,” he said. "He’s a friend of mine. He’s been so helpful. He’s a terrific guy.”
Trump additionally reiterated that he is also eyeing Gov. John Kasich (R-Ohio), who suspended his White House run earlier Wednesday.
“I would certainly consider him,” he said. "During the debates I’d always find myself talking to John. I’ve had a good relationship with him, so we’ll see how that turns out.
“I don’t want to talk too much about it as I am considering a couple of people. We do have a lot of candidates who would be very, very good."
And he said it with a straight face too...I was watching....lol. One scary man.........
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Title:
"Trump: I’m open to Cruz as VP"
I'm not.
Let the senator from Alberta mellow a few more years. Or nominate him for Scalia's seat on The Court, if you dare.
I'd rather see Scott Walker of Wisconsin as the VP candidate. He's a personable guy, committed conservative, acceptable to just about everyone, and has the best record of accomplishment of any Republican governor today.
Making him VP would not only smooth Trump's relationship with the Party and with the Congress, it will groom Walker for the job after Trump departs.
:thumbsup:
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I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
C'mon SMOD 2016.
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Would be worth losing Cruz to the dark side to see the heads of the Trumpbots explode.
That would be the only thing... that would bring me around... a unity ticket... I follow Ted.
Who knows... this is a very wack year.
..."Donald.... I feel the Good in You".
But really... it is #fk.trump.
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And he said it with a straight face too...I was watching....lol. One scary man.........
Trump contributed to the Cruz PAC
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Donald-Trump-Cruz-donation-PAC/2014/04/18/id/566428/
Real estate mogul and entertainment personality Donald Trump gave $5,000 to Sen. Ted Cruz’s leadership PAC in January, according to newly released campaign records.
The Hill reported that Trump’s donation to the tea party-backed Texas Republican — the maximum allowed per election cycle — is the latest indication that the men are becoming political allies.
The relationship between the pair got off to a bumpy start. Last August, Trump said he wasn’t sure whether Cruz could be president because he was born in Canada.
But at a February Republican Party dinner at his Mar-a-Lago Club in Florida, the tycoon called Cruz a "very special guy" and defended his 21-hour filibuster on the Senate floor over Obamacare.
"One of the reasons I like Ted Cruz so much, is that he’s not controversial," he said, to laughs from the audience.
"He shouldn’t be controversial because what he is doing is right. He took a stand recently, that if he had just a little backing — and Ted and I have spoken about this — from other Republicans … he would have negotiated one hell of a deal. It might not have ended Obamacare, but you would have really gotten a big chunk out of it."
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Do you think that adds to the forum?
It's a hell of a lot more entertaining than the spam pablum you post Jackson.
(http://nuke.dreamscard.it/Portals/0/annoiato.jpg)
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It's a hell of a lot more entertaining than the spam pablum you post Jackson.
(http://nuke.dreamscard.it/Portals/0/annoiato.jpg)
:tongue2:
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Cruz will do whatever is in his political best interest. That's who he is.
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Do you think that adds to the forum?
Certainly brings more to this forum than you.
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Cruz will do whatever is in his political best interest. That's who he is.
Cruz's political best interest is to tell Trump to eff himself.
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Certainly brings more to this forum than you.
I've seen no evidence supporting your claim.
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I've seen no evidence supporting your claim.
I haven't either. :beer:
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Cruz's political best interest is to tell Trump to eff himself.
If Cruz agrees with you, that's what he'll do. :shrug:
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Cruz will do whatever is in his political best interest. That's who he is.
One does not need the "safe space" of an "ignore function."
One can just post and ignore the bleep...bleep.
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Cruz's political best interest is to tell Trump to eff himself.
Yep... not Teds best interest... Americas best interest... Scam Wow is toxic.
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Title:
"Trump: I’m open to Cruz as VP"
I'm not.
He's more likely to choose Bernie Sanders anyway
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If Cruz were to accept being Trump's VP after Trump insulted his wife and father, and after being called the worst liar in history for months, then he should just chop off his manhood, put a bow on it, and hand it over to Trump. Because that's basically what he'd be doing anyway.
I agree...won't happen
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He's more likely to choose Bernie Sanders anyway
Yep.
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If Cruz were to accept being Trump's VP after Trump insulted his wife and father, and after being called the worst liar in history for months, then he should just chop off his manhood, put a bow on it, and hand it over to Trump. Because that's basically what he'd be doing anyway.
A couple of things to consider regarding the vice presidency. First, it is a separate constitutional office and the incumbent is not subservient to the president. Second, while the candidate for vice president is normally the person the president recommends, the nominee is selected by the delegates in almost the same manner as the presidential candidate. The one difference is that there are no delegates bound by state law to support anyone. A vice presidential candidate can be imposed by the convention and that very well could happen this time.
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If Cruz agrees with you, that's what he'll do. :shrug:
Those funky Virginia leftist just do not understand. .. :banghead:
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A couple of things to consider regarding the vice presidency. First, it is a separate constitutional office and the incumbent is not subservient to the president. Second, while the candidate for vice president is normally the person the president recommends, the nominee is selected by the delegates in almost the same manner as the presidential candidate. The one difference is that there are no delegates bound by state law to support anyone. A vice presidential candidate can be imposed by the convention and that very well could happen this time.
Interesting.
Likewise the delegates can select the nominee. They do not have to go with trump.
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That would be the only thing... that would bring me around... a unity ticket... I follow Ted.
Who knows... this is a very wack year.
..."Donald.... I feel the Good in You".
But really... it is #fk.trump.
My prediction last Fall was that he would offer Cruz the VP slot for unity, and then nominate him to the SCOTUS...thereby allowing the GOPe to appoint "their guy" as VP replacement.
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My prediction last Fall was that he would offer Cruz the VP slot for unity, and then nominate him to the SCOTUS...thereby allowing the GOPe to appoint "their guy" as VP replacement.
Somehow..I do not trust your hidden face ...as a marker of truth.
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Myst, what a gem you posted. Just like that....
“I respect Ted,” he told host Bill O’Reilly on Fox News’ “The O’Reilly Factor." "He was a very strong competitor. He really competed hard and tough."
“He’s certainly a capable guy,” the presumptive GOP presidential nominee added. "It’s something we can think about.”
“It’s an easy thing,” he said of the nominating process. "He said some things and he made some things up and he took some things that were said out of context.”
Cruz has stated that he was looking for 2020. We shall see.
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Cruz is not Trump's best choice for VP. He needs someone who can shore up the industrial midwest. Scott Walker would fit the bill.
Also, anyone who thinks that Trump will not have a firm hold on this convention, including who is named as the running mate, is nearly as delusional as he is.
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Those funky Virginia leftist just do not understand. .. :banghead:
I assume "funky Virginia leftist" refers to me (talk about not understanding .... but I digress). Take a moment and explain to me what it is I don't understand.
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The VP has no role of significance other than breaking ties in the Senate. He has zero constitutional authority or portfolio of his own, which is why the "bucket of warm spit" comparison was made. Other than that, he is completely dependent upon the President to assign him anything of substance. In other words, a President can easily sideline the Veep completely, and render him a complete irrelevancy.
Cruz would be a fool to make himself that vulnerable to the caprice of Trump
Indeed, there would be no Trump/Cruz ticket.. unless... a one term Trump.... hmnn.
Anyways.. I seriously doubt a New Yorkie would hand off the baton to a Tea Party Patriot of what our founders imagined.
So we fight the bastards on right? :smokin:
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I assume "funky Virginia leftist" refers to me (talk about not understanding .... but I digress). Take a moment and explain to me what it is I don't understand.
Actually it has nothing to do with you.. as I was doin' "Old School" ignore.
I very seldom even scan your posts as they are worth nada to me. Somehow you seem to think I care what you have to say.
My bad..I apologize for my misfortune.
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Cruz is not Trump's best choice for VP. He needs someone who can shore up the industrial midwest. Scott Walker would fit the bill.
Also, anyone who thinks that Trump will not have a firm hold on this convention, including who is named as the running mate, is nearly as delusional as he is.
I'm leaning toward Gov. Walker also. Just don't know if he would want the VP position.
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The VP has no role of significance other than breaking ties in the Senate. He has zero constitutional authority or portfolio of his own, which is why the "bucket of warm spit" comparison was made. Other than that, he is completely dependent upon the President to assign him anything of substance. In other words, a President can easily sideline the Veep completely, and render him a complete irrelevancy.
Cruz would be a fool to make himself that vulnerable to the caprice of Trump
I agree that on the surface, it would not appear to be a good career move for Senator Cruz. However, if he expected Mr. Trump to lose, it may be a good move. Also, Mr. Trump would have no choice but to accept him as a running mate or to resign the nomination at which point, rule 9 would apply and the RNC would appoint a replacement. While the initial discussion was about the possibility of Senator Cruz as the vice presidential nominee, the same consideration would apply to Gov. Bush, Gov. Romney or any other person the delegates wanted to select as the vice presidential candidate.
This is all just speculation as the likelihood of it happening is quite remote. Never the less, it is nice to have this period of consequence free time to speculate while heightened emotions are allowed to cool.
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My sense is Scott Walker wants to make a run for a 3rd term as Governor of Wisconsin. It would/will be another epic face-off between left and right.
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It's a hell of a lot more entertaining than the spam pablum you post Jackson.
(http://nuke.dreamscard.it/Portals/0/annoiato.jpg)
Heh.... 000hehehehe
AH boy.
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One does not need the "safe space" of an "ignore function."
One can just post and ignore ...
There are personal reasons completely unrelated to politics where our host disdains that terminology.
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One does not need the "safe space" of an "ignore function."
One can just post and ignore the bleep...bleep.
Can we knock off the bleep, short bus, and similar references please?
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Can we knock off the bleep, short bus, and similar references please?
Certainly.... thanx for the heads up. I certainly understand.
I would hope that "safe space" references are not verboten as that is very topical.
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There are personal reasons completely unrelated to politics where our host disdains that terminology.
I understand.. but my comment is not wrong.
Mayhap a PM would go a long way to understanding.
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Trump wants Oprah as his 2016 running mate
You get a tax break! And you get a tax break!
Real estate mogul-turned-celebrity TV star Donald Trump already had an “Aha!” moment about his 2016 running mate.
After declaring his run for the White House Tuesday, Trump appeared on ABC and said Oprah Winfrey would complete his presidential dream ticket.
“I think Oprah would be great. I’d love to have Oprah,” Trump said. “I think we’d win easily, actually.”
Trump had suggested Oprah as a potential sidekick once before — while considering a bid for the presidency in 1999.
Now that he’s officially running, he told
http://nypost.com/2015/06/16/trump-wants-oprah-as-his-2016-running-mate/
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Certainly.... thanx for the heads up. I certainly understand.
I would hope that "safe space" references are not verboten as that is very topical.
Don't panic. I got a list of better pejoratives relating to Trump supporters for you.
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Trump wants Oprah as his 2016 running mate
You get a tax break! And you get a tax break!
Real estate mogul-turned-celebrity TV star Donald Trump already had an “Aha!” moment about his 2016 running mate.
After declaring his run for the White House Tuesday, Trump appeared on ABC and said Oprah Winfrey would complete his presidential dream ticket.
“I think Oprah would be great. I’d love to have Oprah,” Trump said. “I think we’d win easily, actually.”
Trump had suggested Oprah as a potential sidekick once before — while considering a bid for the presidency in 1999.
Now that he’s officially running, he told
http://nypost.com/2015/06/16/trump-wants-oprah-as-his-2016-running-mate/
I wonder if anyone told him that she isn't relevant anymore.
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Don't panic. I got a list of better pejoratives relating to Trump supporters for you.
Heh... I am an old board warrior.... no panic, just seeing where the what is..;).
I see neither poster has admin/mod ability. Maybe I will complain about abuse...lol.
But I do like to be as civil as possible.... unlike trumpansies.
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http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/278793-trump-im-open-to-cruz-as-vp
May 04, 2016, 08:49 pm
Trump: I’m open to Cruz as VP
Some are saying if Cruz would accept to run as VP, they would lose all respect for him after Trump said bad things about his wife and father.
I was told when Cruz decided to suspend his campaign, he had tears and said, "But the country...the country." He wanted to save this country and it was hard to give that up. If he was asked to be VP, it would put him in a place to help the country stay afloat during a Trump administration. To all: Consider this before having a knee jerk reaction and dumping on him if he were to accept that position.
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Some are saying if Cruz would accept to run as VP, they would lose all respect for him after Trump said bad things about his wife and father.
I was told when Cruz decided to suspend his campaign, he had tears and said, "But the country...the country." He wanted to save this country and it was hard to give that up. If he was asked to be VP, it would put him in a place to help the country stay afloat during a Trump administration. To all: Consider this before having a knee jerk reaction and dumping on him if he were to accept that position.
Ted is not going to be in the trump nutter regime.
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I wonder if anyone told him that she isn't relevant anymore.
I don't know but that was this year.
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Judging by what I've seen in today's articles, it seems like Trump is open to just about anything—which should surprise no one.
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Judging by what I've seen in today's articles, it seems like Trump is open to just about anything—which should surprise no one.
Right...ah boy. What a pickle we are in.
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I don't know but that was this year.
I know it was. That's why I think it is odd he wants someone who left her popular show and is running a failing cable channel. He will probably come out tomorrow and say he wants Vanilla Ice as his Homeland head to boost his polling with the young chicks.
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Would be worth losing Cruz to the dark side to see the heads of the Trumpbots explode.
Cruz won't be dumb enough to get on this sinking ship. Trump is a very old man, 70 this year, who has lied about nearly everything and everyone in his way. He's demonized all the other good candidates and hidden his close ties to the Clintons, his true soul mates. Cruz needs to stay away from this man the same way that all principled conservatives need to stay away. Let the opportunists join him. He's going to lose and the Republican party will lose the House and Senate.
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Judging by what I've seen in today's articles, it seems like Trump is open to just about anything—which should surprise no one.
He's an obvious fraud. What's odd is that so many fell for him and his brazen lies.
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That article about Oprah was in June 2015 **nononono* **nononono*
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Cruz won't be dumb enough to get on this sinking ship. Trump is a very old man, 70 this year, who has lied about nearly everything and everyone in his way. He's demonized all the other good candidates and hidden his close ties to the Clintons, his true soul mates. Cruz needs to stay away from this man the same way that all principled conservatives need to stay away. Let the opportunists join him. He's going to lose and the Republican party will lose the House and Senate.
What's your source for your allegation of his, Trump's "close ties to the Clintons"?
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That article about Oprah was in June 2015 **nononono* **nononono*
Whoa!!! Almost a year old. Who gives a damn what Trump said 11 months ago!!!! That kind of consistency is ridiculous!
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What's your source for your allegation of his, Trump's "close ties to the Clintons"?
They are not friends, they are acquaintances!!! Big difference!
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Whoa!!! Almost a year old. Who gives a damn what Trump said 11 months ago!!!! That kind of consistency is ridiculous!
He schlonged the competition and he's going to win by a landslide in November carrying the weakling GOP to victory on his coattails.
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They are not friends, they are acquaintances!!! Big difference!
(https://winteryknight.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/1-trump-clinton.jpg)
Good Lord! Are we now going to give photographic evidence and Trumps actual words from months ago credence? What is this a court of law?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=93dw0-JpLNY
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(http://twitter.com/TODAYshow/status/629470471268999168/photo/1)
Good Lord! Are we now going to give photographic evidence and Trumps actual words from months ago credence? What is this a court of law?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=93dw0-JpLNY
People do not use the word acquaintance because it sounds distant. But they are not hang out go to dinner with the wives kind of friends. friends and talk personal business to capisce?
Melania said it when she talked to Greta
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People do not use the word acquaintance because it sounds distant. But they are not hang out go to dinner with the wives kind of friends. friends and talk personal business to capisce?
Melania said it when she talked to Greta
I invited to my wedding friends and family. Trump invited "acquaintances."
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I invited to my wedding friends and family. Trump invited "acquaintances."
Your wedding wasn't the who's who of society, now was it?
NY society are the snobs of all snobs and Trump had to play the game.
You guys really don't believe Trump is happier, hanging out with working people, do you? But he is!!!
I have studied this man since he first married Ivana!
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Your wedding wasn't the who's who of society, now was it?
NY society are the snobs of all snobs and Trump had to play the game.
You guys really don't believe Trump is happier, hanging out with working people, do you? But he is!!!
I have studied this man since he first married Ivana!
I wasn't friends with many of the people at my wedding. Some I had never even met. Most of those invited were friends of my future in-laws and my parents.
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I wasn't friends with many of the people at my wedding. Some I had never even met. Most of those invited were friends of my future in-laws and my parents.
Right! But if you are making a splash, and just gave money to what you thought was a charity (Clinton), you would be inclined to invite them.
Again, people here do not understand NY society pages.
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I've seen no evidence supporting your claim.
You also support Trump, that tells us all we need to know about your vision.
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You also support Trump, that tells us all we need to know about your vision.
Yes, I see a junior high clique from FR. :silly:
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Again, people here do not understand NY society pages.
Sure we do. New York "society" is all crooked, decadent, and corrupt.
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NY society are the snobs of all snobs and Trump had to play the game.
So that's how you excuse his blatant corruption?
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Sure we do. New York "society" is all crooked, decadent, and corrupt.
How is Washington D.C. different?
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How is Washington D.C. different?
It's not. What's your point?
BTW...
http://time.com/4169503/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-wedding-photo/
Trump may not be on friendly terms with the Clinton right now, but he still likes them enough to keep a framed photo on display near other family and friends.
Yeah, I keep framed photographs of mere acquaintances on display at my house too... :pondering:
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It's not. What's your point?
BTW...
http://time.com/4169503/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-wedding-photo/
Yeah, I keep framed photographs of mere acquaintances on display at my house too... :pondering:
The point is ....politicians "society" is all crooked, decadent, and corrupt.!
If I had a photo of a POTUS, current or former I'd have it displayed also I suppose. I've got photos of wild animals on the walls of my house.
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If I had a photo of a POTUS, current or former I'd have it displayed also I suppose. I've got photos of wild animals on the walls of my house.
:silly:
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The point is ....politicians "society" is all crooked, decadent, and corrupt.!
If I had a photo of a POTUS, current or former I'd have it displayed also I suppose. I've got photos of wild animals on the walls of my house.
Forget it.
I thought people on this site were intelligent, and understood primary politics!
But I guess not :shrug:
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Right...ah boy. What a pickle we are in.
That's one way of putting it. From the beginning I've been stunned by the process as it played out.
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#1 Trump realizes that without Cruz supporters (mostly #NeverTrump) he will lose and he will lose big. However, he also for some reason is of the notion that he can lie about him and his family, degrade him and his wife and kids, and spew all kinds of vulgarity about him in order to win and that is acceptable. B.S. Trump is sewer scum. He needs to crawl back under the rock from which he came from.
I admire Cruz and feel he gave 110% to the presidential race if not more. He ran against a lying, backstabbing, fraudulent con artist and came darn close to eliminating him. I believe Cruz is an exemplary Constitutional Conservative with enormous integrity. IF Cruz is offered the VP spot (I think Trump is fishing at this point) and he accepts, I would not hold it against him as I am confident he would have given it extreme thought and prayer.
I honestly feel perhaps at this point though, Cruz now would better serve the country as a Supreme Court justice; however, there would be no guarantee that Trump would appoint him or that the stupid idiots in Congress would approve him. Most importantly, I don't think Trump without Cruz would win; so that's another consideration.
Regardless of Cruz's decision and where he goes from here. I stand with Cruz!!
Cruz. Reigniting the Promise of America!! :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:
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I honestly feel perhaps at this point though, Cruz now would better serve the country as a Supreme Court justice; however, there would be no guarantee that Trump would appoint him or that the stupid idiots in Congress would approve him.
I agree that the Senate would be unlikely to confirm Cruz to SCOTUS now. However, I could see them easily confirming him to serve as U.S. Attorney General just to get him out of the Senate. After a few years at AG, Cruz could then fill a SCOTUS vacancy.
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I agree that the Senate would be unlikely to confirm Cruz to SCOTUS now. However, I could see them easily confirming him to serve as U.S. Attorney General just to get him out of the Senate. After a few years at AG, Cruz could then fill a SCOTUS vacancy.
If they were to confirm him as a SCOTUS justice they would still get him out of the Senate. The stupid idiots in Congress are too liberal to actually do something for the good of the country.
Whatever Cruz's path ... he will serve us well.
Cruz. Reigniting the Promise of America!
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Forget it.
I thought people on this site were intelligent, and understood primary politics!
But I guess not :shrug:
We do understand them. we also understand that the petulant one will not be around forever and has done an outstanding job of poisoning the well for true Conservatism with all the personal attacks on the other candidates. He has done damage that will last for years to come.
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#1 Trump realizes that without Cruz supporters (mostly #NeverTrump) he will lose and he will lose big. However, he also for some reason is of the notion that he can lie about him and his family, degrade him and his wife and kids, and spew all kinds of vulgarity about him in order to win and that is acceptable. B.S. Trump is sewer scum. He needs to crawl back under the rock from which he came from.
I admire Cruz and feel he gave 110% to the presidential race if not more. He ran against a lying, backstabbing, fraudulent con artist and came darn close to eliminating him. I believe Cruz is an exemplary Constitutional Conservative with enormous integrity. IF Cruz is offered the VP spot (I think Trump is fishing at this point) and he accepts, I would not hold it against him as I am confident he would have given it extreme thought and prayer.
I honestly feel perhaps at this point though, Cruz now would better serve the country as a Supreme Court justice; however, there would be no guarantee that Trump would appoint him or that the stupid idiots in Congress would approve him. Most importantly, I don't think Trump without Cruz would win; so that's another consideration.
Regardless of Cruz's decision and where he goes from here. I stand with Cruz!!
Cruz. Reigniting the Promise of America!! :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:
:amen:
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Would be worth losing Cruz to the dark side to see the heads of the Trumpbots explode.
boy isn't that the truth. Cruz or even Rubio would have heads popping!
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#1 B.S. Trump is sewer scum. He needs to crawl back under the rock from which he came from.
I admire Cruz and feel he gave 110% to the presidential race if not more. IF Cruz is offered the VP spot (I think Trump is fishing at this point) and he accepts, I would not hold it against him as I am confident he would have given it extreme thought and prayer. Most importantly, I don't think Trump without Cruz would win; so that's another consideration. Regardless of Cruz's decision and where he goes from here. I stand with Cruz!!
Thanks for your accurate description of Trump. Thanks also for your accurate description of Cruz. I have posted on here when Cruz made the decision to suspend his campaign, he had tears in his eyes and said, "But the country...the country." If he is offered the VP slot and accepts it, he will do so to "save the country...the country."
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If Cruz accepted the veep pick from Trump - I'd vote for Hillary on General Principle.
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Does Trump really believe that Cruz whom he maligned, smeared, and insulted for months and who is a Constitutional Conservative, in contrast to the authoritarian narcissist unprincipled Trump would consider being Trump's VP? Cruz has already stated he is not interested and I hope he does not change his mind.
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I'll never forget or forgive Trump attack Scott Walker in Wisconsin.
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If Cruz accepted the veep pick from Trump - I'd vote for Hillary on General Principle.
All I can say to you is while I certainly understand where you're coming from, I think it is equally important to remember that Cruz realizes we've pretty much lost our country. His objective was to restore our country, honor our Constitution and the very principles upon which this country was founded. IF he indeed has an opportunity to do just that, I don't see that it would be so easy for him to just walk away from the opportunity.
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Does Trump really believe that Cruz whom he maligned, smeared, and insulted for months and who is a Constitutional Conservative, in contrast to the authoritarian narcissist unprincipled Trump would consider being Trump's VP? Cruz has already stated he is not interested and I hope he does not change his mind.
Trump used the WWE model of his friend Vince McMahon for his presidential campaign. In his mindset, it is perfectly rational to trash someone in a personal way one day and embrace them the next. To him, it is about the circus and keeping the crowd on the hook is the important thing. His problem is with those who don't respond well to the professional wrestling model.
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Trump used the WWE model of his friend Vince McMahon for his presidential campaign. In his mindset, it is perfectly rational to trash someone in a personal way one day and embrace them the next. To him, it is about the circus and keeping the crowd on the hook is the important thing. His problem is with those who don't respond well to the professional wrestling model.
Yes, with Trump it is all about show biz.
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Trump wants Oprah as his 2016 running mate
You get a tax break! And you get a tax break!
Real estate mogul-turned-celebrity TV star Donald Trump already had an “Aha!” moment about his 2016 running mate.
After declaring his run for the White House Tuesday, Trump appeared on ABC and said Oprah Winfrey would complete his presidential dream ticket.
“I think Oprah would be great. I’d love to have Oprah,” Trump said. “I think we’d win easily, actually.”
Trump had suggested Oprah as a potential sidekick once before — while considering a bid for the presidency in 1999.
Now that he’s officially running, he told
http://nypost.com/2015/06/16/trump-wants-oprah-as-his-2016-running-mate/
I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.....
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Can you name any primary in the last 50 years in the GOP in which anything like this kind of conduct occurred?
I don't mind sharp-elbows, or tough criticisms on issues of policy. Rubio and Cruz went at it pretty strong on the whole Gang of 8 bill. Bush called Reagan's economic plan "voodoo economics". But this name-calling, and the "nobody should listen to what you say because you're behind in the polls" stuff that Trump said during debates is ridiculous. I can't recall anyone even remotely approaching that. And the worst part was that there weren't rude retorts on policy. They were rude retorts to avoid talking about policy. That's just despicable, and not where anyone should really want their party to go.
The 11th Commandment had a purpose. It was so that other Republicans would not be damaged for runs against Democrats. Trump deliberately tried to make other Republicans into laughingstocks, and again, not even on policy issues. It was just grade-school level insults.
So don't try playing the condescending "you just don't understand primary politics" card. I've been watching primary politics since 1976, and never recall anything remotely like this.
You are exactly correct. Trump is INCAPABLE of talking intelligently about any policy position. His stock reply is "It will be so great that you won't believe it", or "We'll win so much that you'll get tired of winning". That's the truly scary part about the man is that he has NO convictions. No one really has any idea where he stands on ANY issue. I guess he wakes up everyday and sticks his finger in the air to see which way the wind is blowing.
And about Cruz being his VP choice. No way in the world this is going to happen.
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Trump used the WWE model of his friend Vince McMahon for his presidential campaign. In his mindset, it is perfectly rational to trash someone in a personal way one day and embrace them the next. To him, it is about the circus and keeping the crowd on the hook is the important thing. His problem is with those who don't respond well to the professional wrestling model.
Nice avatar. Wondering if I could convince you to change yours as the one you're using is a personal picture of mine that I'm using for this site.
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Nice avatar. Wondering if I could convince you to change yours as the one you're using is a personal picture of mine that I'm using for this site.
No problem at all. Consider it done.
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The msm, and that includes FNC Rush, and assorted others are addicted to tRump much as he is addicted to the never ending vulgarity that is his signature behavior.
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What's your source for your allegation of his, Trump's "close ties to the Clintons"?
“They’re both terrific people, and I hope they both get the nomination,” Donald Trump on Hillary and Giuliani in 2007.
“Hillary Clinton I think is a terrific woman. I am biased because I have known her for years. I live in New York. She lives in New York. I really like her and her husband both a lot. I think she really works hard. And I think, again, she’s given an agenda, it is not all of her, but I think she really works hard and I think she does a good job. I like her.” His Royal Donaldness of Orange speaking about Hillary on Fox News in 2012.
“I’m a businessman. I contribute to everybody,” Trump said. “When I needed Hillary, she was there. If I say ‘go to my wedding,’ they go to my wedding.” -From the same 2012 interview.
Source: http://time.com/3962799/donald-trump-hillary-clinton/#3962799/donald-trump-hillary-clinton/
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Trump used the WWE model of his friend Vince McMahon for his presidential campaign. In his mindset, it is perfectly rational to trash someone in a personal way one day and embrace them the next. To him, it is about the circus and keeping the crowd on the hook is the important thing. His problem is with those who don't respond well to the professional wrestling model.
There's a yuge liability here for the Donald. Take what he's said about Hillary: "Hillary Clinton I think is a terrific woman..." Add in things he's said about Cruz like, "He is, without a doubt, one of the most dishonest people in DC." Simmer in the mainstream sound bite driven media for a couple months and you have yourself the recipe for big problems in the PR department.
The media was silent or complicit as Donny Come Lately took out Cruz; they won't be as he goes after Hillary. Cruz could decline for Donald's own good.
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They are not friends, they are acquaintances!!! Big difference!
Hillary Clinton I think is a terrific woman. I am biased because I have known her for years. " I describe all my aquaintances that way. :pondering:
http://time.com/3962799/donald-trump-hillary-clinton/#3962799/donald-trump-hillary-clinton/
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I think you're exactly correct on that. And when you point to some of the stuff he says, many of his supporters will say "aw, he doesn't really mean that. He's just saying that for effect."
The obvious follow up is "well then how do we know we should believe anything that he says", and there's generally no response to that. It's like there's a secret code book somewhere that tells us what he "really" means when he says things.
First, you have to get your secret decoder ring in a package Trump Steaks. Next, drain a bottle of Trump Wine and read the message through the bottom of the wine bottle and the decoder ring to find out if this is truth hyperbole or a part genius plot to and will be back peddled in a half hour.
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I think you're exactly correct on that. And when you point to some of the stuff he says, many of his supporters will say "aw, he doesn't really mean that. He's just saying that for effect."
The obvious follow up is "well then how do we know we should believe anything that he says", and there's generally no response to that. It's like there's a secret code book somewhere that tells us what he "really" means when he says things.
You know, it almost sounds like you're describing a (*gasp*!) politician.
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Lying Ted? THe guy you accused of being the son of the JFK assassination collaborator?
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Trump cannot be trusted on anything he says.
He will not want a Veep ten times smarter than he is and would only do it if he realized he was losing badly and Ted would help.
On the other hand, would Ted accept? That would be a dilemma for him. Could he join forces with evil. Maybe if he thought he could have some influence for good.
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Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Trump cannot be trusted on anything he says.
He will not want a Veep ten times smarter than he is and would only do it if he realized he was losing badly and Ted would help.
On the other hand, would Ted accept? That would be a dilemma for him. Could he join forces with evil. Maybe if he thought he could have some influence for good.
I listened to Rush today for about an hour. Sounds like he's starting to carry the water for Trump. He spent some time trying to explain that Trump's new position on the minimum wage is really not a new position because Trump is always pondering all angles of an issue. At least that's the way I took it.
Nice try, Rush.
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I listened to Rush today for about an hour. Sounds like he's starting to carry the water for Trump. He spent some time trying to explain that Trump's new position on the minimum wage is really not a new position because Trump is always pondering all angles of an issue. At least that's the way I took it.
Nice try, Rush.
Rush is a jackass. I was attacked twice on here, but #nevertrumps, for criticizing Rush. One was @Bigun. Forget who the other was.
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“They’re both terrific people, and I hope they both get the nomination,” Donald Trump on Hillary and Giuliani in 2007.
“Hillary Clinton I think is a terrific woman. I am biased because I have known her for years. I live in New York. She lives in New York. I really like her and her husband both a lot. I think she really works hard. And I think, again, she’s given an agenda, it is not all of her, but I think she really works hard and I think she does a good job. I like her.” His Royal Donaldness of Orange speaking about Hillary on Fox News in 2012.
“I’m a businessman. I contribute to everybody,” Trump said. “When I needed Hillary, she was there. If I say ‘go to my wedding,’ they go to my wedding.” -From the same 2012 interview.
Source: http://time.com/3962799/donald-trump-hillary-clinton/#3962799/donald-trump-hillary-clinton/
So by your logic, a person contributing money to a candidate and being complimentary to that person makes them good friends? I wonder if my US Senators know we are good friends.
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I listened to Rush today for about an hour. Sounds like he's starting to carry the water for Trump. He spent some time trying to explain that Trump's new position on the minimum wage is really not a new position because Trump is always pondering all angles of an issue. At least that's the way I took it.
Nice try, Rush.
What new position, that he thinks Minimum wage laws make us uncompetitive and the way to increase wages is with good jobs? That position? If you are a conservative you should have known the ONLY one who said raise the minimum wage was the Liberal reporter. Not Trump.
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http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/278793-trump-im-open-to-cruz-as-vp (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/278793-trump-im-open-to-cruz-as-vp)
Donald Trump on Wednesday said that he would consider making Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) his running mate.
Cruz would be nuts to agree to it. That would be like signing on to be a lieutenant commander on the Hindenberg.
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So by your logic, a person contributing money to a candidate and being complimentary to that person makes them good friends? I wonder if my US Senators know we are good friends.
I guess you think he meant something else when he said "I know her well" and "When I needed Hillary, she was there for me?"
If you can say that of your Senators and invite them to your wedding then yes they are probably your good friends.
Friends, acquaintances, or just plain @$$ kissing, it makes little difference. We know what Trump is; we are just debating the price.
However, they sure sound like friends to me:
“For his part, Obama said he’s just focused on winning the nomination, although at least one member of his team said Clinton would make a good vice-president. (I know Hillary and I think she’d make a great president or vice-president.).” -DT 2008. At which time DT was still a democrat.
“Hillary was roughed up by the media, and it was a tough campaign for her, but she’s a great trouper... her history is far from being over.” -DT 2008. - http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/264386-trump-once-wrote-hillary-clinton-would-be-great-president
He knew her well enough to list her great attributes in the same piece:
"Hillary is smart, tough and a very nice person, so is her husband. Bill Clinton was a great president. They are fine people. -http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-in-2008-hillary-clinton-would-make-a-great-president/
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I guess you think he meant something else when he said "I know her well" and "When I needed Hillary, she was there for me?"
If you can say that of your Senators and invite them to your wedding then yes they are probably your good friends.
Friends, acquaintances, or just plain @$$ kissing, it makes little difference. We know what Trump is; we are just debating the price.
However, they sure sound like friends to me:
“For his part, Obama said he’s just focused on winning the nomination, although at least one member of his team said Clinton would make a good vice-president. (I know Hillary and I think she’d make a great president or vice-president.).” -DT 2008. At which time DT was still a democrat.
“Hillary was roughed up by the media, and it was a tough campaign for her, but she’s a great trouper... her history is far from being over.” -DT 2008. - http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/264386-trump-once-wrote-hillary-clinton-would-be-great-president
He knew her well enough to list her great attributes in the same piece:
"Hillary is smart, tough and a very nice person, so is her husband. Bill Clinton was a great president. They are fine people. -http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-in-2008-hillary-clinton-would-make-a-great-president/
I see all kinds of people who say they know Trump well and they've never met him. Do you know people like that? Think of your best friends and how long it took to get to know them. How much time you spent together. How would Trump be able to spend that much time with the Clintons or most politicians for that matter. Trump doesn't live in Albany or Washington DC
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I see all kinds of people who say they know Trump well and they've never met him. Do you know people like that? Think of your best friends and how long it took to get to know them. How much time you spent together. How would Trump be able to spend that much time with the Clintons or most politicians for that matter. Trump doesn't live in Albany or Washington DC
Most folks I know reserve saying they know people for people they actually know. Maybe Trump doesn't know them as well as he says he does, and this is more "truthful hyperbole". Hokay, works for me. :dighole:
Trump said he spent lots of time and money on politicians
"two months ago I was a businessman. I give to everybody. When they call, I give. And you know what, when I need something from them two years later, three years later, I call them. They are there for me." http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trumps-surprisingly-honest-lessons-big-money-politics/story?id=32993736
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Trump is open to having his VP be the lyingest liar who ever lied a lying lie? LOL...he claims he doesn't drink.
Nah,he knows Cruz will never be a threat to HIS title as one of the biggest liars to have ever been born.
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:hands:
Cruz's political best interest is to tell Trump to eff himself.
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What new position, that he thinks Minimum wage laws make us uncompetitive and the way to increase wages is with good jobs? That position? If you are a conservative you should have known the ONLY one who said raise the minimum wage was the Liberal reporter. Not Trump.
You can stop with the personal attack right there.
Trump said that the minimum wage was something that he would have to look into and that he wasn't like other Republicans. He minced his words so as not to take a position either way. The mechanics of a seasoned politician.
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And he said it with a straight face too...I was watching....lol. One scary man.........
He can say it with a straight face because he is a sociopath,and sociopaths mean everything they say the instant they say it,even if they don't believe it a micro-instant later. If he had a conscience he wouldn't be a sociopath.
His current wife should be VERY nervous. He is bound to be thinking of trading her in on a newer model that is younger,hotter,and more appropriate for a man of his current position.
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If Cruz were to accept being Trump's VP after Trump insulted his wife and father, and after being called the worst liar in history for months, then he should just chop off his manhood, put a bow on it, and hand it over to Trump. Because that's basically what he'd be doing anyway.
I think he is smart enough to realize that Trump is just trying to make him his bitch. It's a ego-thing,typical of men with small hands.
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He is bound to be thinking of trading her in on a newer model that is younger,hotter,and more appropriate for a man of his current position.
He's already been doing that every certain number of years. Melania might have a couple of them left.
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He's already been doing that every certain number of years. Melania might have a couple of them left.
Not now that he is a presidential primary winner. Remember,this is the guy that spent big bucks to try to get people to put him next to Princess Di so he could have a shot at nailing her. He's a snob.
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Most folks I know reserve saying they know people for people they actually know. Maybe Trump doesn't know them as well as he says he does, and this is more "truthful hyperbole". Hokay, works for me. :dighole:
Trump said he spent lots of time and money on politicians
"two months ago I was a businessman. I give to everybody. When they call, I give. And you know what, when I need something from them two years later, three years later, I call them. They are there for me." http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trumps-surprisingly-honest-lessons-big-money-politics/story?id=32993736
I call! Don't even have to have face to face meetings. Politicians! :silly:
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Ted Cruz has a political future. Trump doesn't.
Cruz would be out of his mind to take any position in a Trump campaign or (God forbid) administration.
Ted is only 45 and will be back to pick up the pieces of the disastrous Trump presidency. Conservatives who trusted Trump will be ready for conservative values and someone whose wife does not pose nude.
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Cruz would be nuts to agree to it. That would be like signing on to be a lieutenant commander on the Hindenberg.
This is all useless speculation as Trump would NEVER want a veep ten times smarter than himself.
I think Cruz would be better served by keeping a safe distance from Trump and running again in 4 years. I don't want Cruz to accept a Supreme Court nomination, although he would be great. I want him to be president.
I still have a faint hope that Cruz can somehow prevail at the Convention. The delegate loyalty is a little ambiguous and not all delegates are bound, even on the first vote.
It's an odd situation in which everyone despises Trump except his worshippers. If you want to see them on display, head over to Free Republic.
Everything the trumpers over there railed against when Ted Cruz did it, they immediately embrace when Trump does it.
Example: fund raising. I tried to tell them that Trump had spent almost nothing of his own money. He got by on free media advertising and renting halls for his big live events which fed his enormous ego. The minute Trump announces he's going to fund raise for the general, they are swarming to donate to him.
Trump's insane followers are almost as scary as Trump himself.
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This is all useless speculation as Trump would NEVER want a veep ten times smarter than himself.
I think Cruz would be better served by keeping a safe distance from Trump and running again in 4 years. I don't want Cruz to accept a Supreme Court nomination, although he would be great. I want him to be president.
I still have a faint hope that Cruz can somehow prevail at the Convention. The delegate loyalty is a little ambiguous and not all delegates are bound, even on the first vote.
It's an odd situation in which everyone despises Trump except his worshippers. If you want to see them on display, head over to Free Republic.
Everything the trumpers over there railed against when Ted Cruz did it, they immediately embrace when Trump does it.
Example: fund raising. I tried to tell them that Trump had spent almost nothing of his own money. He got by on free media advertising and renting halls for his big live events which fed his enormous ego. The minute Trump announces he's going to fund raise for the general, they are swarming to donate to him.
Trump's insane followers are almost as scary as Trump himself.
There is nothing saying that Cruz can't accept a Supreme Court nomination and then run as President. However stepping down so soon after being appointed would certainly raise a few eyebrows. I don't think Trump is going to appoint him anyways ... he's too arrogant and too liberal.
Trump is already the nominee ... voting will still take place until the Convention and he will be picking up delegates. Possibly Kasich and Cruz will pick up a few delegates here and there still as well, but, bound delegates are obligated to vote for the candidate that the electorate picked on the first ballot. If Trump gets that majority on the first ballot he wins.
There has never been an election that I can remember where the GOP establishment didn't get behind the nominee. It is quite troubling that numerous establishment members are refusing to get behind him ... and so far, Scott, Martinez, Haley, have all stated that they will not accept his VP offer.
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Cruz was touted early on as a way to coax Cruz supporters away from Cruz, thinking they would get both. Now it is the Lucy football approach to tricking Cruz into an endorsement. He won't be the pick. Nether would he accept. I predict he won't endorse Trump at all.
It was phony then and it is phony now. Trump is using this carrot to scam a lot of people into endorsing him. it's what he does.
I'd be seriously disappointed in Cruz if he even talks to Trump between now and election day. Endorsement? NO COMMENT!!!!!!!
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I'd be seriously disappointed in Cruz if he even talks to Trump between now and election day. Endorsement? NO COMMENT!!!!!!!
Cruz is much much more intelligent than Trump. Cruz isn't going to endorse him unless he has good reason and it benefits the country. That's been Cruz's objective; to restore the Country under the Constitution. The way I see it ... the Donald needs Cruz right now more than Cruz needs him. On the surface, Cruz has everything to lose by endorsing Trump and nothing to gain.
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Cruz was touted early on as a way to coax Cruz supporters away from Cruz, thinking they would get both. Now it is the Lucy football approach to tricking Cruz into an endorsement. He won't be the pick. Nether would he accept. I predict he won't endorse Trump at all.
It was phony then and it is phony now. Trump is using this carrot to scam a lot of people into endorsing him. it's what he does.
The tsunami is gaining strength and speed. Get on the surfboard and ride the wave or flounder.
Texas GOP Starts To Rally Behind Trump As Nominee
By Patrick Svitek Texas Tribune • 22 hours ago
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Cruz is much much more intelligent than Trump.
Could be, but I doubt you could ever prove it. Sometimes being smart is better than being intelligent.
Texas GOP Starts To Rally Behind Trump As Nominee
By Patrick Svitek Texas Tribune • 22 hours ago
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Could be, but I doubt you could ever prove it. Sometimes being smart is better than being intelligent.
Texas GOP Starts To Rally Behind Trump As Nominee
By Patrick Svitek Texas Tribune • 22 hours ago
...and when you're a billionaire you neither have to be smart or intelligent. Trump is pure proof of that.
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There has never been an election that I can remember where the GOP establishment didn't get behind the nominee.
Barry Goldwater,then Reagan during his first term. The Country Club Republicans refused to back Goldwater,so LBJ got elected.
Later on they told Reagan at the convention that if he didn't take Poppy as his running mate they would withdraw all party aide to him during his run for the presidency.
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Cruz is much much more intelligent than Trump. Cruz isn't going to endorse him unless he has good reason and it benefits the country. That's been Cruz's objective; to restore the Country under the Constitution. The way I see it ... the Donald needs Cruz right now more than Cruz needs him. On the surface, Cruz has everything to lose by endorsing Trump and nothing to gain.
And what if Trump were to announce that his SCJ nominee to replace Scalia will be Ted Cruz...and that the nation needs a man like Ted, with his admittedly extraordinary legal mind...on the court. Part of this transaction would include an endorsement of the GOP nominee, of course.
What then would Ted do?
My guess, he would accept, knowing that his presence on the court rather than an extreme liberal filling Scalia's shows...would be of far greater importance than any issues of hurt feelings and/pride.
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And what if Trump were to announce that his SCJ nominee to replace Scalia will be Ted Cruz...and that the nation needs a man like Ted, with his admittedly extraordinary legal mind...on the court. Part of this transaction would include an endorsement of the GOP nominee, of course.
What then would Ted do?
My guess, he would accept, knowing that his presence on the court rather than an extreme liberal filling Scalia's shows...would be of far greater importance than any issues of hurt feelings and/pride.
Given Cruz's poor relations with his colleagues, Senate approval of a SCJ nomination is far from assured.
Why would Cruz endorse a man who has labeled him a liar as late as this morning?
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...and when you're a billionaire you neither have to be smart or intelligent. Trump is pure proof of that.
Really? 88finger point
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Given Cruz's poor relations with his colleagues, Senate approval of a SCJ nomination is far from assured.
Why would Cruz endorse a man who has labeled him a liar as late as this morning?
GOP Senators will vote 100% for Cruz as a party nominee...zero doubt.
As for your question: Because he cares about the future of the country, and will place that above his wounded pride. As an SCJ he could influence American Law for another 40 years...in the big picture that is a more lasting effect than any presidency. To attain that, he will do the right thing and endorse.
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Given Cruz's poor relations with his colleagues, Senate approval of a SCJ nomination is far from assured.
Why would Cruz endorse a man who has labeled him a liar as late as this morning?
What person on this orb has never told a lie? Politics is home to the biggest and best liars on earth.
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What person on this orb has never told a lie? Politics is home to the biggest and best liars on earth.
We need to hold USSC justices to a higher standard than us or certainly politicians.
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We need to hold USSC justices to a higher standard than us or certainly politicians.
You'll get no disagreement from me. If the general public had higher standards we would have better candidates.
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...and when you're a billionaire you neither have to be smart or intelligent. Trump is pure proof of that.
Really? 88finger point
Really. If we are wrong,why not tell us how smart you have to be to inherit 220 million dollars AND 15,000 rental properties in NYC while in your 20's?
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And what if Trump were to announce that his SCJ nominee to replace Scalia will be Ted Cruz...and that the nation needs a man like Ted, with his admittedly extraordinary legal mind...on the court. Part of this transaction would include an endorsement of the GOP nominee, of course.
What then would Ted do?
My guess, he would accept, knowing that his presence on the court rather than an extreme liberal filling Scalia's shows...would be of far greater importance than any issues of hurt feelings and/pride.
Trump has to win the presidency first before he can even start thinking about nominating a justice. He hasn't even announced his VP yet. If Trump's appointment of Carson to vet VP choices is any indication of how poorly Trump surrounds himself with the best ... he'll continue to sink his own ship. His attacks on others is what kept media focus on him and now the only media focus seems to be how much the party won't get behind him. He has no one to attack other than Hillary and so far he hasn't and my hunch is he won't. One debate between Hillary and Trump and he's toast.
#NeverTrump
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...and when you're a billionaire you neither have to be smart or intelligent. Trump is pure proof of that.
Really. If we are wrong,why not tell us how smart you have to be to inherit 220 million dollars AND 15,000 rental properties in NYC while in your 20's?
I can provide plenty of examples of athletes, entertainers and trust funders who have signed contracts or inherited 10s of millions of dollars who pissed it all away. Trump turned millions into billions.
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I can provide plenty of examples of athletes, entertainers and trust funders who have signed contracts or inherited 10s of millions of dollars who pissed it all away. Trump turned millions into billions.
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It's okay, A-Lert!
For some, a different perspective may work.
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I can provide plenty of examples of athletes, entertainers and trust funders who have signed contracts or inherited 10s of millions of dollars who pissed it all away. Trump turned millions into billions.
People in show biz and sports are your intelligence gold standard???????
ROFLMAO! No wonder you believe Trump.
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People in show biz and sports are your intelligence gold standard???????
No, just proving what you state is so much :LAME: :bs:
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People in show biz and sports are your intelligence gold standard???????
ROFLMAO! No wonder you believe Trump.
The mere fact that you used ROFLMAO...makes it pretty clear you should stay out of conversations about intelligence. And maturity.
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GOP Senators will vote 100% for Cruz as a party nominee...zero doubt.
As for your question: Because he cares about the future of the country, and will place that above his wounded pride. As an SCJ he could influence American Law for another 40 years...in the big picture that is a more lasting effect than any presidency. To attain that, he will do the right thing and endorse.
Wounded pride? Your mother-of-a-candidate implied his dad was complicit in the murder of JFK and trashed his wife. If I were Cruz, I wouldn't piss on Trump if he was on fire.
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If the general public had higher standards we would have better candidates.
The irony of that statement coming from a Trump supporter is as delicious as strawberry rhubarb pie.
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The irony of that statement coming from a Trump supporter is as delicious as strawberry rhubarb pie.
There is no irony. I've never claimed Trump is a great candidate. There haven't been any for decades. That's why we ended up with an Obama. Then look at the two losers the democrats put up.
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You can stop with the personal attack right there.
Trump said that the minimum wage was something that he would have to look into and that he wasn't like other Republicans. He minced his words so as not to take a position either way. The mechanics of a seasoned politician.
Dam right hes going to look into it. In the same paragraph he tells you its making us non-competitive. Only a person with an agenda can take away hes looking at it to raise it. People saying such assume others are stupid or something. That's insulting. And yes Normally Conservatives know better then to take a liberals spin on something yet here we are with one of the most absurd talking points so far.
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The mere fact that you used ROFLMAO...makes it pretty clear you should stay out of conversations about intelligence. And maturity.
Yeah,we all know that people who support the narcissistic sociopath with no plans whatsoever beyond hiring "good managers" for president are renowned judges of intelligence and maturity.
ROFLMAO!
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The irony of that statement coming from a Trump supporter is as delicious as strawberry rhubarb pie.
:amen: :amen: :amen:
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Dam right hes going to look into it. In the same paragraph he tells you its making us non-competitive. Only a person with an agenda can take away hes looking at it to raise it.
Are you suggesting he's looking into ways to lower it?
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This whole discussion is an exercise in futility. There is absolutely no way Trump would select Cruz as his VP or appoint him to any position in his administration or the judiciary, and there is absolutely no way Cruz would accept even if he did.
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This whole discussion is an exercise in futility. There is absolutely no way Trump would select Cruz as his VP or appoint him to any position in his administration or the judiciary, and there is absolutely no way Cruz would accept even if he did.
Agreed. Trump is only running his mouth; that's what he does best. Ironically, Trump made mention very early on the he would name Cruz as his VP. The two of them even held a rally together to focus on their objection to the deal with Iran. Trump knows he needs a VP that will do his job for him as he himself even recently admitted, he knows the business end of the position, but nothing else. It wasn't until Cruz was winning in IA that Trump began the attacks and when those attacks didn't work, he kept attacking. IMHO Trump destroyed the relationship with the one person that right now could assure him the presidency. Trump may already realize that destroying that relationship was a huge mistake and is merely testing the waters.
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A Trump may already realize that destroying that relationship was a huge mistake and is merely testing the waters.
The number one thing you and everyone else needs to realize about a narcissistic sociopath is that they NEVER make mistakes. If it seems they did,it is because someone has betrayed them and changed their program in some way. NOTHING is EVER THEIR FAULT.
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This whole discussion is an exercise in futility. There is absolutely no way Trump would select Cruz as his VP or appoint him to any position in his administration or the judiciary, and there is absolutely no way Cruz would accept even if he did.
Cruz has an ego as big or bigger than Trump.
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:amen:
Agreed. Trump is only running his mouth; that's what he does best. Ironically, Trump made mention very early on the he would name Cruz as his VP. The two of them even held a rally together to focus on their objection to the deal with Iran. Trump knows he needs a VP that will do his job for him as he himself even recently admitted, he knows the business end of the position, but nothing else. It wasn't until Cruz was winning in IA that Trump began the attacks and when those attacks didn't work, he kept attacking. IMHO Trump destroyed the relationship with the one person that right now could assure him the presidency. Trump may already realize that destroying that relationship was a huge mistake and is merely testing the waters.
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And they both have earned their egos.
Cruz has an ego as big or bigger than Trump.
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And they both have earned their egos.
The problem with Cruz is that he comes off as cold, hard, calculating and unlikable. The more people saw of him the more it became apparent. That's why he flamed out.
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The problem with Cruz is that he comes off as cold, hard, calculating and unlikable. The more people saw of him the more it became apparent. That's why he flamed out.
And Trump is likable? HA HA HA HA!!!!
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And Trump is likable? HA HA HA HA!!!!
Cruz is intelligent, which is why Trump fans don't like him. He makes them feel stupid.
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And Trump is likable? HA HA HA HA!!!!
Well if rally turnout and votes received are indicators, apparently he is.
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Cruz is intelligent, which is why Trump fans don't like him. He makes them feel stupid.
Denigration and insults are so juvenile. Try to take it up a few notches. We don't need this forum to be another FR.
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:thumbsup:
Why choose a Republican as Trump's running mate? Why not choose Bernie Sanders? Trump is moving to the Left of Hillary. Let him pick a running mate that's as vain, mercurial, and unscrupulous as himself.
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Are you suggesting he's looking into ways to lower it?
or eliminate it. He has been consistent at increasing wages by bringing back good jobs. This entire faked up $neverTrump Agitprop was created by taking a discussion of how he was going to implement his tax cuts and spun it into a sound bite he was going to raise taxes. He has also been consistent on how we are not competitive.
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Title:
"Trump: I’m open to Cruz as VP"
Making him VP would not only smooth Trump's relationship with the Party and with the Congress, it will groom Walker for the job after Trump departs.
What will groom Trump for higher office? He's never held any public office. His claim to fame is that he's never been a public official. He inherited a bundle of his daddy's money; he made himself famous like the Kardashians; he was involved in professional wrestling and Reality TV. Yet nothing in his life groomed him for the Presidency of the United States. His impolitic and undiplomatic language is supposedly a strength. His lack of policy knowledge about foreign or domestic matters beyond what he learns on "the shows" is supposedly another great thing. So it's odd that any of his supporters think a Governor needs to be groomed whereas a reality TV star is ready on day one.
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Denigration and insults are so juvenile. Try to take it up a few notches. We don't need this forum to be another FR.
My point was basically that nobody likes a nerd and Cruz is a nerd. Trump is a jock.
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or eliminate it. He has been consistent at increasing wages by bringing back good jobs. This entire faked up $neverTrump Agitprop was created by taking a discussion of how he was going to implement his tax cuts and spun it into a sound bite he was going to raise taxes. He has also been consistent on how we are not competitive.
And what is his definition of a "good job"? If $7.25 an hour is too much then what will the salaries of those jobs be?
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@catfish1957
"And Trump is likable? HA HA HA HA!!!!"
Well if rally turnout and votes received are indicators, apparently he is.
Big deal. Ever seen newsreels of the rally's for Mussolini,Hitler,and Stalin?
It's the mindsets of their followers that gives the dictators the validation they need to become the monsters they become.
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What will groom Trump for higher office? He's never held any public office. His claim to fame is that he's never been a public official. He inherited a bundle of his daddy's money; he made himself famous like the Kardashians; he was involved in professional wrestling and Reality TV. Yet nothing in his life groomed him for the Presidency of the United States. His impolitic and undiplomatic language is supposedly a strength. His lack of policy knowledge about foreign or domestic matters beyond what he learns on "the shows" is supposedly another great thing. So it's odd that any of his supporters think a Governor needs to be groomed whereas a reality TV star is ready on day one.
No,that's typical of his base. They don't need no stinkin reality,they have teebee images,and they know their teebees would never lie to them!
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And what is his definition of a "good job"? If $7.25 an hour is too much then what will the salaries of those jobs be?
IMO,a more important,and revealing,question would be "If you are such a yuge fan of bring back high-paying American jobs,why are you,EVEN NOW,trying to import foreign workers to work in your hotels because they work cheaper?"
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Cruz is intelligent, which is why Trump fans don't like him. He makes them feel stupid.
The Country at large dislikes Cruz by almost a 2 to 1 margin, just slightly less than Trump. In the end, given his intransigence over practically every major issue, Cruz might have had a tougher row to hoe than Trump will.
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Why choose a Republican as Trump's running mate? Why not choose Bernie Sanders? Trump is moving to the Left of Hillary. Let him pick a running mate that's as vain, mercurial, and unscrupulous as himself.
Tell me about Hillary's support of the 2nd Amendment, border security, respect for the military, Benghazi, her lying, stealing and enabling her sexual predator husband. Leftof Hillary? :thud:
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Cruz is intelligent, which is why Trump fans don't like him. He makes them feel stupid.
The one luxury, and a major advantage, for Trump is that he's never had to vote for/against any legislation. It allows him to be as flexible as he needs to be. Have to admit it, he's used it to great effect.
That will change when the media and Hillary start launching coordinated artillery strikes on each and every utterance of his.
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The Country at large dislikes Cruz by almost a 2 to 1 margin, just slightly less than Trump. In the end, given his intransigence over practically every major issue, Cruz might have had a tougher row to hoe than Trump will.
I have always regarded that as a given. I've said since last year that Trump would win in a landslide if he is the nominee, but Cruz would still win.
I think Hillary is the sort of candidate who can not possibly win, no matter who runs against her. Especially after 7 1/2 years of Obama.
Trump will win handily, but Cruz would have won as well.
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Hillary Clinton I think is a terrific woman. I am biased because I have known her for years. " I describe all my aquaintances that way. :pondering:
http://time.com/3962799/donald-trump-hillary-clinton/#3962799/donald-trump-hillary-clinton/
He basically said the same things to all the crowds in every state he has held rallies in thus far.
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The Country at large dislikes Cruz by almost a 2 to 1 margin, just slightly less than Trump. In the end, given his intransigence over practically every major issue, Cruz might have had a tougher row to hoe than Trump will.
Cruz comes across as cold, hard detached and impersonal. He can't help it. Many people who have spent the majority of their lives with their heads in books aren't particularly sociable. Trump has the outgoing, sociable personality. He's comfortable and used to dealing with crowds and all types of people.
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I have always regarded that as a given. I've said since last year that Trump would win in a landslide if he is the nominee, but Cruz would still win.
I think Hillary is the sort of candidate who can not possibly win, no matter who runs against her. Especially after 7 1/2 years of Obama.
Trump will win handily, but Cruz would have won as well.
The great unknown is still the potential legal issues Hillary might face. Past that if nothing changes, Hillary has Democrat Party that will come together. Trump definitely won't have that; Cruz probably would. Trump may over time have an easier time bringing in independents and possibly some Democrats. Cruz likely would not. But it's a long time until November.
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Cruz comes across as cold, hard detached and impersonal. He can't help it. Many people who have spent the majority of their lives with their heads in books aren't particularly sociable. Trump has the outgoing, sociable personality. He's comfortable and used to dealing with crowds and all types of people.
Pretty much what I just posted a few seconds ago. But Cruz can learn, and if he's still interested next time around, he should shave off the rough edges, demonstrate some ability to be flexible with his colleagues, and broaden his view of the issues and their resolution. Because at that time he may well find a more mature, better polished Rubio also in the game.
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The great unknown is still the potential legal issues Hillary might face. Past that if nothing changes, Hillary has Democrat Party that will come together. Trump definitely won't have that; Cruz probably would. Trump may over time have an easier time bringing in independents and possibly some Democrats. Cruz likely would not. But it's a long time until November.
I take it as a given that Trump would take a huge swath out of the Democrat base. I've seen polls over the last six months indicating he would take between 16 and 25% of the Black vote. That alone will wipe out Hillary.
I personally think he will get a huge chunk of the Democrat blue-collar vote.
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Pretty much what I just posted a few seconds ago. But Cruz can learn, and if he's still interested next time around, he should shave off the rough edges, demonstrate some ability to be flexible with his colleagues, and broaden his view of the issues and their resolution. Because at that time he may well find a more mature, better polished Rubio also in the game.
I just don't believe Cruz is capable of changing. That's why I believe he would make a great jurist.
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Cruz comes across as cold, hard detached and impersonal. He can't help it. Many people who have spent the majority of their lives with their heads in books aren't particularly sociable. Trump has the outgoing, sociable personality. He's comfortable and used to dealing with crowds and all types of people.
Here's another jewel form your candidate yesterday.....
"The U.S. never has to default on debt "because you print the money,"
Wow..... $20T in debt?.... $30T?........ $100T?
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Cruz comes across as cold, hard detached and impersonal.
I disagree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_mcie4Nasw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_mcie4Nasw)
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The great unknown is still the potential legal issues Hillary might face. Past that if nothing changes, Hillary has Democrat Party that will come together. Trump definitely won't have that; Cruz probably would. Trump may over time have an easier time bringing in independents and possibly some Democrats. Cruz likely would not. But it's a long time until November.
I'm not so sure she is going to get the young airhead "kneejerk dim vote". From what I have seen,those people hate her as much as we do. Which is why they are backing the ACTUAL socialist,Bernie. I doubt many of them will be voting for her.
She has the Whymen? and the black and brown votes locked up,as well as the geezer Dim white votes,though.
I guess it would all depend on how many of the young Dims will vote for the alleged Republican candidate as a protest vote,and how many traditional Republican voters refuse to vote for the lunatic with the orange hair and skin.
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Trump is a jock.
Well, no... But you're in the right area.
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Well, no... But you're in the right area.
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I just don't believe Cruz is capable of changing. That's why I believe he would make a great jurist.
It might be what he wants, but if he decides to run again, he will definitely have to make some changes, which would turn off the SoCon voters.
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Cruz comes across as cold, hard detached and impersonal. He can't help it. Many people who have spent the majority of their lives with their heads in books aren't particularly sociable.
100% wrong.
I helped Cruz with his senatorial campaign in 2012, and when he spoke to a group of us, he came across as a kind genuine, principled conservative. What he did do, is say that he may make enemies in DC by challenging the status quo, and establishment capitulating mindset that has turned its back on the tea party movement that put them in majority. His bold actions pissed off our feckless leaders (Boner and Turtleman), to the point he called McConnell the liar that he is.
Fast forward to the orange charlatan who is the master deceptive perceptive meme generator, and now you have a chunk of the population who have a false take of what Sen. Cruz is really all about. You can keep flip flop, as many of us principled conservatives view a tRump POTUS as Hitlerly Lite. I will never vote for the SOB.
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I disagree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_mcie4Nasw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_mcie4Nasw)
You are entitled and unlike the neverTrumps I won't insult you for your differing opinion. My opinion is based on personal observation and opinions stated by his peers.
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100% wrong.
I helped Cruz with his senatorial campaign in 2012, and when he spoke to a group of us, he came across as a kind genuine, principled conservative. What he did do, is say that he may make enemies in DC by challenging the status quo, and establishment capitulating mindset that has turned its back on the tea party movement that put them in majority. His bold actions pissed off our feckless leaders (Boner and Turtleman), to the point he called McConnell the liar that he is.
Fast forward to the orange charlatan who is the master deceptive perceptive meme generator, and now you have a chunk of the population who have a false take of what Sen. Cruz is really all about. You can keep flip flop, as many of us principled conservatives view a tRump POTUS as Hitlerly Lite. I will never vote for the SOB.
:beer: You are fortunate to have met Cruz in person. I greatly admire the man and will continue to support him in the direction he decides on next. His education and background are quite amazing and I couldn't put his book, "A Time for Truth" down (I read it in two sittings). I listened to him briefly this morning on Beck and he actually apologized for letting his supporters down because he didn't accomplish what he had set out to do. I see that he gave it his all. He went up against all odds, a multi-billionaire and the Washington cartel. Ted has no reason to apologize. I see that a whole lot of people owe Ted and apology, first and foremost Trump for stomping on a true conservative and secondly Kasich for staying in to make a win more difficult. Both men are despicable.
#NeverTrump.
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100% wrong.
I helped Cruz with his senatorial campaign in 2012, and when he spoke to a group of us, he came across as a kind genuine, principled conservative. What he did do, is say that he may make enemies in DC by challenging the status quo, and establishment capitulating mindset that has turned its back on the tea party movement that put them in majority. His bold actions pissed off our feckless leaders (Boner and Turtleman), to the point he called McConnell the liar that he is.
Fast forward to the orange charlatan who is the master deceptive perceptive meme generator, and now you have a chunk of the population who have a false take of what Sen. Cruz is really all about. You can keep flip flop, as many of us principled conservatives view a tRump POTUS as Hitlerly Lite. I will never vote for the SOB.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/GQnsaAWZ8ty00/giphy-facebook_s.jpg)
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100% wrong.
I helped Cruz with his senatorial campaign in 2012, and when he spoke to a group of us, he came across as a kind genuine, principled conservative. What he did do, is say that he may make enemies in DC by challenging the status quo, and establishment capitulating mindset that has turned its back on the tea party movement that put them in majority. His bold actions pissed off our feckless leaders (Boner and Turtleman), to the point he called McConnell the liar that he is.
Fast forward to the orange charlatan who is the master deceptive perceptive meme generator, and now you have a chunk of the population who have a false take of what Sen. Cruz is really all about. You can keep flip flop, as many of us principled conservatives view a tRump POTUS as Hitlerly Lite. I will never vote for the SOB.
If indeed I were 100% wrong Cruz would now be the GOP nominee. Evidently there are many more people that agree with my observations than they do with yours. You can insult me and the Trump supporters, but it only makes you out to be a butthurt sore loser.
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" but it only makes you out to be a butthurt sore loser."
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No, it just shows how damn gullible you are.
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A-Lert and Catfish...knock it off now.
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Here's another jewel form your candidate yesterday.....
"The U.S. never has to default on debt "because you print the money,"
Wow..... $20T in debt?.... $30T?........ $100T?
Inflation aside, that is technically true.
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Inflation aside, that is technically true.
And fire aside, the house is technically not burning to the ground.
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Sometimes the terms of loans specified specied currency because nations are aware you intend to print your way out of debt. This is why nations have defaulted on debt from time to time, despite printing currency.
If this every happens to the US you will know we are deep, deep trouble.
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Sometimes the terms of loans specified specied currency because nations are aware you intend to print your way out of debt. This is why nations have defaulted on debt from time to time, despite printing currency.
If this every happens to the US you will know we are deep, deep trouble.
It has already happened. At the current issue rate, the Treasury is unable to find a sufficient number of investors, so the Fed has been purchasing them instead. This means that if interest rates go up to their natural level, the entire banking system and therefore the US government is on the hook for all that money.
http://useconomy.about.com/od/monetarypolicy/f/Who-Owns-US-National-Debt.htm (http://useconomy.about.com/od/monetarypolicy/f/Who-Owns-US-National-Debt.htm)
Right now the Fed is playing a big game of chicken with the rest of the world. The Fed regulators well know that no one would be harmed more by an increase in interest rates than they would because they would have to discount the value of $2.5 trillion and counting.
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And fire aside, the house is technically not burning to the ground.