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Title: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: To-Whose-Benefit? on May 30, 2018, 07:21:22 pm
dailycaller
Saagar Enjeti
White House Correspondent
11:33 AM 05/30/2018

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http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/30/trump-breaks-his-silence-on-roseanne/ (http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/30/trump-breaks-his-silence-on-roseanne/)

President Donald Trump broke his conspicuous silence the cancellation of Roseanne Barr’s show on ABC.

    Bob Iger of ABC called Valerie Jarrett to let her know that “ABC does not tolerate comments like those” made by Roseanne Barr. Gee, he never called President Donald J. Trump to apologize for the HORRIBLE statements made and said about me on ABC. Maybe I just didn’t get the call?

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 30, 2018
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: To-Whose-Benefit? on May 30, 2018, 07:22:52 pm
 :laughingdog:
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: edpc on May 30, 2018, 07:32:14 pm
It must’ve been really bothersome to have the press talking about Roseanne so much, because he immediately made it about himself.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: musiclady on May 30, 2018, 07:34:22 pm
It must’ve been really bothersome to have the press talking about Roseanne so much, because he immediately made it about himself.

Nailed it.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: driftdiver on May 30, 2018, 07:36:06 pm
It must’ve been really bothersome to have the press talking about Roseanne so much, because he immediately made it about himself.

Yeah a politician would never ever use something like this as a lever to point out the hypocrisy of the left.  never

Nope it must be Trump hate

Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: edpc on May 30, 2018, 07:42:34 pm

Yeah a CiC would never use something like fallen soldiers to promote himself on Memorial Day.  Never.

Nope it must be malignant narcissism.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: To-Whose-Benefit? on May 30, 2018, 07:46:53 pm
Yeah a politician would never ever use something like this as a lever to point out the hypocrisy of the left.  never

Nope it must be Trump hate

ABC would have fired Trump ages ago if it was They who held His contract and not the American voters.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: corbe on May 30, 2018, 07:48:31 pm
   Another example of his ludicrous tweets and phone calls giving some of US the impression that he's often times stepping on his d*ck.

President Trump phones Roseanne Barr after successful 'Roseanne' premiere

Erin Jensen, USA TodayPublished 10:12 a.m. ET March 29, 2018 | Updated 3:37 p.m. ET March 29, 2018


President Trump may have recently bashed the Oscars and Oprah Winfrey on 60 Minutes, but here's one show he can get behind — one that centers around a fictional supporter of his, played by a real-life one: Roseanne. So much so, he reached out to the show's co-creator and star, Roseanne Barr, to congratulate her on the stellar premiere.

Tuesday's hour-long block of the sitcom's revival averaged 18.2 million viewers, according to Nielsen. That's a 10% increase over the 16.6 million viewers documented for the series finale, which aired in 1997. It also bested reliable ratings-getters NCIS and The Voice.

The White House confirmed to the Associated Press that Trump placed a Wednesday night phone call to the actress behind the brazen Roseanne Conner.

<..snip..>

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2018/03/29/trump-calls-roseanne-barr-ratings/469003002/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2018/03/29/trump-calls-roseanne-barr-ratings/469003002/)

Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: driftdiver on May 30, 2018, 07:55:40 pm
Yeah a CiC would never use something like fallen soldiers to promote himself on Memorial Day.  Never.

Nope it must be malignant narcissism.

@edpc
Ahh so you think the President shouldn't say anything on a major holiday

the hate is eating you up
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: driftdiver on May 30, 2018, 07:56:12 pm
   Another example of his ludicrous tweets and phone calls giving some of US the impression that he's often times stepping on his d*ck.

President Trump phones Roseanne Barr after successful 'Roseanne' premiere

Erin Jensen, USA TodayPublished 10:12 a.m. ET March 29, 2018 | Updated 3:37 p.m. ET March 29, 2018


President Trump may have recently bashed the Oscars and Oprah Winfrey on 60 Minutes, but here's one show he can get behind — one that centers around a fictional supporter of his, played by a real-life one: Roseanne. So much so, he reached out to the show's co-creator and star, Roseanne Barr, to congratulate her on the stellar premiere.

Tuesday's hour-long block of the sitcom's revival averaged 18.2 million viewers, according to Nielsen. That's a 10% increase over the 16.6 million viewers documented for the series finale, which aired in 1997. It also bested reliable ratings-getters NCIS and The Voice.

The White House confirmed to the Associated Press that Trump placed a Wednesday night phone call to the actress behind the brazen Roseanne Conner.

<..snip..>

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2018/03/29/trump-calls-roseanne-barr-ratings/469003002/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2018/03/29/trump-calls-roseanne-barr-ratings/469003002/)

proof that its Trumps fault
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: corbe on May 30, 2018, 08:00:06 pm
   @driftdiver

   The only thing that is Trump's fault is his running for President because we all know from subsequent tweets that Auhnold killed the 'Apprentice' franchise.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 30, 2018, 08:01:04 pm
It must’ve been really bothersome to have the press talking about Roseanne so much, because he immediately made it about himself.

 :facepalm2:  The President made the same point--effectively--about the double standard many Briefers have been making.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: corbe on May 30, 2018, 08:08:07 pm
   Why does he even feel the need to wade into all this crap @Right_in_Virginia?
    I look around and I see MANY, MANY more pressing problems deserving of his attention. 
    If you and others feel it's just my TDS'ism please spare me the lecture and lets all try to get on the same page, I'm not a Hater! 
    Is all this tweet BS even necessary for a successful Presidency in this 'shiny squirrel' society, have we become this stupid?
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: edpc on May 30, 2018, 08:08:46 pm
@edpc
Ahh so you think the President shouldn't say anything on a major holiday

the hate is eating you up


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If you are OK with this, you’re the one with the problem – not me.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: driftdiver on May 30, 2018, 08:10:26 pm
   Why does he even feel the need to wade into all this crap @Right_in_Virginia?
    I look around and I see MANY, MANY more pressing problems deserving of his attention. 
    If you and others feel it's just my TDS'ism please spare me the lecture and lets all try to get on the same page, I'm not a Hater! 
    Is all this tweet BS even necessary for a successful Presidency in this 'shiny squirrel' society, have we become this stupid?

@corbe
Because its a great opportunity to stick a finger in the eye of the liberal elites by reminding everyone of their duplicity.

This is an example of why the left wins.   They always keep their eye on the ball and attack the right target.   Conservatives will always turn to friendly fire.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: driftdiver on May 30, 2018, 08:11:14 pm

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If you are OK with this, you’re the one with the problem – not me.

@edpc
If it gets  you all riled up then you are the one needing therapy.

Normal people aren't looking at his tweets on a holiday.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: corbe on May 30, 2018, 08:13:20 pm
   Seems some here can't stand a 'little water on their backs' @edpc

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Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: driftdiver on May 30, 2018, 08:22:27 pm
   Seems some here can't stand a 'little water on their backs' @edpc

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@corbe
Do you regularly talk about people behind their backs?
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: edpc on May 30, 2018, 08:23:32 pm
Normal people aren't looking at his tweets on a holiday.


For some people, it’s actually their job. Since it was reported in a number of news outlets, that’s how I knew about it.  Your ignorance, however, is neither new nor surprising.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: driftdiver on May 30, 2018, 08:24:31 pm

For some people, it’s actually their job. Since it was reported in a number of news outlets, that’s how I knew about it.  Your ignorance, however, is neither new nor surprising.

@edpc
Don't mistake ignorance for having a life and real things going on other then starting fights here.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: edpc on May 30, 2018, 08:27:29 pm
@edpc
Don't mistake ignorance for having a life and real things going on other then starting fights here.


Do you want to go back to post 4 and re-think that?  Seriously, man. There are times when I am truly embarrassed for you.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: driftdiver on May 30, 2018, 08:29:52 pm

Do you want to go back to post 4 and re-think that?  Seriously, man. There are times when I am truly embarrassed for you.

@edpc
Thats deep coming from you.   like gutter deep

bye
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: corbe on May 30, 2018, 08:30:51 pm
@corbe
Do you regularly talk about people behind their backs?

  @driftdiver I wasn't referring to you in particular but Trumpers in general, but by all means if the Duck analogy fits kill the messenger.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: Emjay on May 30, 2018, 08:36:10 pm
@edpc
Ahh so you think the President shouldn't say anything on a major holiday

the hate is eating you up

Really.  People here hating the wrong people is just painful.

I hate that Roseanne was cancelled.  I was enjoying it.  It wasn't as overboard as the original show and addressed some real issues.

Roseanne made a twitter comment and was taken off the air and people who say worse things ON AIR are still on TV.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: edpc on May 30, 2018, 08:38:37 pm
The President made the same point--effectively--about the double standard many Briefers have been making.


Yeah, I bet they somehow made the point by showing a multitude of other examples that did not include themselves. Leave it to the Twitter king spelling bee champ to find a way of putting ‘M-E’ into ‘Rosanne.’
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: Emjay on May 30, 2018, 08:38:45 pm
@edpc
Don't mistake ignorance for having a life and real things going on other then starting fights here.

Yeah, @driftdiver ... you are so right.  Sometimes I think it is @edpc mission in life to irritate people here.  I would ban him if I could.  He hasn't had an original thought since I've known him.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: Emjay on May 30, 2018, 08:42:32 pm
   Why does he even feel the need to wade into all this crap @Right_in_Virginia?
    I look around and I see MANY, MANY more pressing problems deserving of his attention. 
    If you and others feel it's just my TDS'ism please spare me the lecture and lets all try to get on the same page, I'm not a Hater! 
    Is all this tweet BS even necessary for a successful Presidency in this 'shiny squirrel' society, have we become this stupid?

I wish nobody tweeted except maybe the occasional bird, @corbe but this issue is far more important than one show being cancelled.

This issue shows the utter ruthlessness of the leftist media.  They try constantly to put on shows with a leftist (or politically correct) stance.  That unfortunate tweet by Roseanne was just an excuse.  Her show was too popular with us hillbillies.

You're not a hater but you can be really dumb about some things.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: corbe on May 30, 2018, 08:44:09 pm
   @Emjay the writers had already announced they were moving away from the Trump narrative to increase ratings and with the characters on the show we all knew where they were going to go, LBGTQ. 
    She would have successfully infused 'HER' agenda into Trump's GOP with his tacit approval.

   *no, I've never watched her.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: edpc on May 30, 2018, 08:51:58 pm
He hasn't had an original thought since I've known him.


Says the sentient Mesquite stump.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: Emjay on May 30, 2018, 08:54:52 pm
   @Emjay the writers had already announced they were moving away from the Trump narrative to increase ratings and with the characters on the show we all knew where they were going to go, LBGTQ. 
    She would have successfully infused 'HER' agenda into Trump's GOP with his tacit approval.

   *no, I've never watched her.

Well, I've never watched Modern Family.  What difference does that make.

My daughter and I loved the original Roseanne show except for the last couple of seasons and I did watch the new show.  The first episode made me cringe and they were right to back away from the politics.  But the next shows were really fun ... a little more serious and dealing with real family issues.

You have no idea where they were going with this show and I don't care.  You are totally missing the point of the ruthless tyranny of the entertainment media.

They made a huge mistake cancelling a top rated show, Last Man Standing.  I had never seen or heard of this show until they did that.  Now, it's been re-booted and it's all over re-runs. I hate sitcoms but this one is pretty funny.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: MOD8 on May 30, 2018, 08:56:42 pm
(https://i.imgflip.com/rpirb.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: corbe on May 30, 2018, 08:58:56 pm
   I Resemble/Resent that MOD8.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: RoosGirl on May 30, 2018, 09:04:14 pm
Really stupid thing for POTUS to comment on and get involved in.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Emjay on May 30, 2018, 09:05:08 pm
   I Resemble/Resent that MOD8.

It's not you, baby, it may be me.  Or it could be the people who disagree with us.

MOD8 is going to have to be more specific.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: corbe on May 30, 2018, 09:07:12 pm
   I never watch that stuff but I don't begrudge those among US that do (usually) @Emjay.
   I just think all this is a distraction and people like Roseanne, unlike perhaps Tim Allen, never had an original thought and would gleefully drag Christian Conservatives further down the hole that she's in  ~ Bob Dylan.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: LauraTXNM on May 30, 2018, 09:07:30 pm
Who on ABC made racist comments about Trump? 

Added: Ahh, Sarah Huckabee Sanders actually addressed this:
1) Jenelle Hill
2) Joy Behar
3) Kathy Griffin
4) Keith Olbermann

Interesting.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: To-Whose-Benefit? on May 30, 2018, 09:12:26 pm

Says the sentient Mesquite stump.

@Emjay

Oh, I don't know Emjay.

I though @MOD8's mssg was crystal clear.

Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: corbe on May 30, 2018, 09:16:32 pm
        I did to @To-Whose-Benefit? I've already applied:

 (https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-JAEEzYO1NaA/WFDKDyo7-fI/AAAAAAAAxiM/abHlEmX8F7gNBtMC0-wnM7wjg0HoWOs7ACLcB/s640/Butt-hurt%2Bsalve.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: LauraTXNM on May 30, 2018, 09:17:54 pm
It's not you, baby, it may be me.  Or it could be the people who disagree with us.

MOD8 is going to have to be more specific.

@MOD8  I hope s/he is.  I'm not sure what happened.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: Applewood on May 30, 2018, 09:18:00 pm
@edpc
Ahh so you think the President shouldn't say anything on a major holiday

the hate is eating you up

I believe there was a tweet, possibly from the official White House account, honoring those who died in service to this country.  Trump did not need to use the occasion to campaign for 2020.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: LauraTXNM on May 30, 2018, 09:18:58 pm
I believe there was a tweet, possibly from the official White House account, honoring those who died in service to this country.  Trump did not need to use the occasion to campaign for 2020.

Agreed, @Applewood.  It was really tasteless.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: corbe on May 30, 2018, 09:19:31 pm
   My PM's indicate that corbe was trolling again, ungraciously, as usual.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: driftdiver on May 30, 2018, 09:22:49 pm
I wish nobody tweeted except maybe the occasional bird, @corbe but this issue is far more important than one show being cancelled.

This issue shows the utter ruthlessness of the leftist media.  They try constantly to put on shows with a leftist (or politically correct) stance.  That unfortunate tweet by Roseanne was just an excuse.  Her show was too popular with us hillbillies.

You're not a hater but you can be really dumb about some things.

@Emjay

How many real issues are more important then the media bias?  The media has a huge impact on popular opinion, on elections, on issues like gun control.  Their impact is massive.

We complain all the time about media bias.  Then when someone tweaks the media and might have some marginal impact to reduce media bias what do we do?  We complain because it was Trump who said something.

Unfreakin believeable
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: To-Whose-Benefit? on May 30, 2018, 09:26:25 pm
        I did to @To-Whose-Benefit? I've already applied:

 (https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-JAEEzYO1NaA/WFDKDyo7-fI/AAAAAAAAxiM/abHlEmX8F7gNBtMC0-wnM7wjg0HoWOs7ACLcB/s640/Butt-hurt%2Bsalve.jpg)

@corbe That's beautiful. I'm stealing it.

 888high58888
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: corbe on May 30, 2018, 09:34:20 pm
   I acknowledge your concerns @driftdiver I just refuse to accept the premise, as you seem to have, that we should get down in the mud with them.

(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/ca/99/fa/ca99fae342af317c34244c7932de3d0a.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: driftdiver on May 30, 2018, 09:35:34 pm
   I acknowledge your concerns @driftdiver I just refuse to accept the premise, as you seem to have, that we should get down in the mud with them.

(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/ca/99/fa/ca99fae342af317c34244c7932de3d0a.jpg)

Get down in the mud with whom?  Trolls?
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Emjay on May 30, 2018, 09:36:12 pm
   I never watch that stuff but I don't begrudge those among US that do (usually) @Emjay.
   I just think all this is a distraction and people like Roseanne, unlike perhaps Tim Allen, never had an original thought and would gleefully drag Christian Conservatives further down the hole that she's in  ~ Bob Dylan.

You could not be more wrong if you tried, @corbe.  Roseanne is an enormous talent.  She had a top rated show for ten years and, yeah, it was funny back then.  Who are you to judge her?  I'm not crazy about her but she's more talented than Bob whoosit.  And Tim Allen is a real talent.  The show ... not so much.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: Emjay on May 30, 2018, 09:37:40 pm
@Emjay

How many real issues are more important then the media bias?  The media has a huge impact on popular opinion, on elections, on issues like gun control.  Their impact is massive.

We complain all the time about media bias.  Then when someone tweaks the media and might have some marginal impact to reduce media bias what do we do?  We complain because it was Trump who said something.

Unfreakin believeable

Amen, my brother @driftdiver   Sometimes I think we deserve to become England unless we wise up quickly.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: corbe on May 30, 2018, 09:47:51 pm
   @Emjay I was trying in that post to not appear judgmental toward anyone here.
    Roseanne and Trump though I've never watched any of their productions, are fair game, not Briefers.
    I just shared my opinion about Roseanne and the general state of what passes for entertainment in America now days all the way up to our Reality TV star President.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Emjay on May 30, 2018, 09:56:21 pm
   @Emjay I was trying in that post to not appear judgmental toward anyone here.
    Roseanne and Trump though I've never watched any of their productions, are fair game, not Briefers.
    I just shared my opinion about Roseanne and the general state of what passes for entertainment in America now days all the way up to our Reality TV star President.

I'd hate to see you when you WERE trying to appear judgmental.  @corbe You do this all the time and then you get all innocent and claim no offense.

Well, it is offensive.  I love TV and that does not make me dumb.  But there's very little good on television these days. 

If you were not so set on being 'clever' you would realize that Trump has saved this country and deserves your respect, not your cheap shots.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: LauraTXNM on May 30, 2018, 09:56:24 pm
@Emjay I think you should really check out Bob Dylan!  He's definitely at least as talented as Roseanne!
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: RoosGirl on May 30, 2018, 09:57:47 pm
@Emjay I think you should really check out Bob Dylan!  He's definitely at least as talented as Roseanne!

She should probably check out the songs he's written that are performed by others and not by himself.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: edpc on May 30, 2018, 10:00:32 pm
She should probably check out the songs he's written that are performed by others and not by himself.


How dare you. Only those golden vocal cords could inspire these awesome moves.


! No longer available (http://youtube.com/watch?v=dO13_3_yCE8#)
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Emjay on May 30, 2018, 10:01:22 pm
@Emjay I think you should really check out Bob Dylan!  He's definitely at least as talented as Roseanne!

Oh, I know Bob Dylan.  He and I dated in high school.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: RoosGirl on May 30, 2018, 10:02:48 pm

How dare you. Only those golden vocal cords could inspire these awesome moves.


! No longer available (http://youtube.com/watch?v=dO13_3_yCE8#)

I think Bob was afraid to look at that guy.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Emjay on May 30, 2018, 10:05:26 pm
I know Woody Guthrie also.  Great folk influence but had Huntington's, a horrible disease that is completely hereditary.  If a parent has it, there is a 50% chance that the child will have it.  Arlo was afraid to take the test for years, but he missed it.

It is in my family as well, a beloved niece inherited it.  The thing about Huntington's is that the people are usually extremely talented and intelligent.  Maybe someone will figure that out someday/
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: To-Whose-Benefit? on May 30, 2018, 10:12:37 pm
@Emjay I think you should really check out Bob Dylan!  He's definitely at least as talented as Roseanne!


Only when I don't have to suffer through listening to Dylan himself to hear his songs.

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yclRjptWlW8#)
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: corbe on May 30, 2018, 10:15:06 pm
I'd hate to see you when you WERE trying to appear judgmental.  @corbe You do this all the time and then you get all innocent and claim no offense.

Well, it is offensive.  I love TV and that does not make me dumb.  But there's very little good on television these days. 

If you were not so set on being 'clever' you would realize that Trump has saved this country and deserves your respect, not your cheap shots.

   Where do I begin here @Emjay?

   I'll start with the words I used in my original post. 

 "I DO NOT BEGRUDGE"

be·grudge.
VERB
1.envy (someone) the possession or enjoyment of (something).

  I also won't BEGRUDGE you for the interpretations as 'Cheap Shots on Trump' that you make of my perceived insults on the current status of American Culture. 

  I always welcome your input here and this time is no exception. 


    *clever enuf?


Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: libertybele on May 30, 2018, 10:26:58 pm
@Emjay

How many real issues are more important then the media bias?  The media has a huge impact on popular opinion, on elections, on issues like gun control.  Their impact is massive.

We complain all the time about media bias.  Then when someone tweaks the media and might have some marginal impact to reduce media bias what do we do?  We complain because it was Trump who said something.

Unfreakin believeable

 888high58888  Media bias won Bammy the election and the MSM thought they were going to hand Hillary this past election.  No, I don't care for Trump's rants, raves and tweets ... but he has been able to put a jolt in their thunder.  Unfortunately, it hasn't been enough.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: Emjay on May 30, 2018, 10:45:53 pm
888high58888  Media bias won Bammy the election and the MSM thought they were going to hand Hillary this past election.  No, I don't care for Trump's rants, raves and tweets ... but he has been able to put a jolt in their thunder.  Unfortunately, it hasn't been enough.

@libertybele   Well, it ain't over yet.  Trump is fighting fire with fire and he is getting his message out.  I'm over worrying about it.  It may actually be a good thing ... he does not let them get by with anything without responding.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Emjay on May 30, 2018, 10:47:34 pm
   Where do I begin here @Emjay?

   I'll start with the words I used in my original post. 

 "I DO NOT BEGRUDGE"

be·grudge.
VERB
1.envy (someone) the possession or enjoyment of (something).

  I also won't BEGRUDGE you for the interpretations as 'Cheap Shots on Trump' that you make of my perceived insults on the current status of American Culture. 

  I always welcome your input here and this time is no exception. 


    *clever enuf?

@corbe  You are definitely a kinder, gentler version of some posters here but you still can't resist taking the cheap shot at Trump.  He is saving you from a fate worse than death.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: RoosGirl on May 30, 2018, 10:51:02 pm
He's saving us!  He's saaaaaving us!

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Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: driftdiver on May 30, 2018, 11:10:20 pm
He's saving us!  He's saaaaaving us!

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-i-G_hQxUfhQ/U_1U0o6QsII/AAAAAAAAajw/UfKrmGRDIXA/s1600/%24_57%2B(2).JPG)

@RoosGirl
Yes attack anyone trying to beat back the leftists however minor.  Be a good conservative.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: RoosGirl on May 30, 2018, 11:14:21 pm
@RoosGirl
Yes attack anyone trying to beat back the leftists however minor.  Be a good conservative.

Thinking that one man is going to be the country's savior seems pretty leftist to me.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: corbe on May 30, 2018, 11:17:58 pm
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Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: driftdiver on May 30, 2018, 11:18:00 pm
Thinking that one man is going to be the country's savior seems pretty leftist to me.

@RoosGirl

Yes of course let's denounce any leadership from the President of the United States.  By golly he shouldn't be seen or heard.

In fact I bet George Washington said the same thing when he was our first President.  He was frequently quoted that it was an example of good leftist agenda.

But seriously how stupid can conservatives be?
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: edpc on May 30, 2018, 11:20:45 pm
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That chick is ugly, but it looks like she could play a solid cover corner.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: RoosGirl on May 30, 2018, 11:21:35 pm
@RoosGirl

Yes of course let's denounce any leadership from the President of the United States.  By golly he shouldn't be seen or heard.

In fact I bet George Washington said the same thing when he was our first President.  He was frequently quoted that it was an example of good leftist agenda.

But seriously how stupid can conservatives be?



Well, they can believe that one man is going to be the savior of our nation.  That's pretty stupid.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: driftdiver on May 30, 2018, 11:24:37 pm
Well, they can believe that one man is going to be the savior of our nation.  That's pretty stupid.

Yeah just look at Lincoln.  Man he was a loser.  Or Eisenhower and then there's Reagan.  All losers
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: RoosGirl on May 30, 2018, 11:27:54 pm
Yeah just look at Lincoln.  Man he was a loser.  Or Eisenhower and then there's Reagan.  All losers

Well, Lincoln was a loser, but regardless of that, none of them affected the change they did on their own, did they?
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Sanguine on May 30, 2018, 11:29:32 pm

Only when I don't have to suffer through listening to Dylan himself to hear his songs.

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yclRjptWlW8#)

Good choice.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: driftdiver on May 30, 2018, 11:30:50 pm
Well, Lincoln was a loser, but regardless of that, none of them affected the change they did on their own, did they?

Yes indeed only thru big govt can we effect change.  Right?

Heck we could have Nancy Pelosi for president and it would be a ok right?

Yes individuals have no place in our country. 
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Sanguine on May 30, 2018, 11:31:55 pm
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Heavy, man....
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: corbe on May 30, 2018, 11:33:04 pm
She cleans up well, This is her in lingerie, @edpc.

(https://cdn.acidcow.com/pics/20141128/girls_dressed_12.jpg)

Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: RoosGirl on May 30, 2018, 11:33:45 pm
Yes indeed only thru big govt can we effect change.  Right?

Heck we could have Nancy Pelosi for president and it would be a ok right?

Yes individuals have no place in our country.

Your comments are becoming increasingly unhinged.  You should calm down a little and regroup.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: driftdiver on May 30, 2018, 11:35:40 pm
Your comments are becoming increasingly unhinged.  You should calm down a little and regroup.

I'm just agreeing with you.  So if someone is  unhinged  well it must be you.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: RoosGirl on May 30, 2018, 11:37:59 pm
I'm just agreeing with you.  So if someone is  unhinged  well it must be you.

You get weird when you're hungry.  Have another sammich.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: edpc on May 30, 2018, 11:43:01 pm
Well, Lincoln was a loser...


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I initially thought so too, but it turned out he just had stomatitis and needed somebody to give him a chance.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: darroll on May 30, 2018, 11:55:51 pm
We need Bernie... He will put a duck in every ones swamp. (And let us pay the bill)
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: driftdiver on May 30, 2018, 11:56:26 pm
You get weird when you're hungry.  Have another sammich.

No thanks your sammiches are crappy
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Hoodat on May 31, 2018, 12:16:47 am
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Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 31, 2018, 12:29:11 am
   Why does he even feel the need to wade into all this crap @Right_in_Virginia?
    I look around and I see MANY, MANY more pressing problems deserving of his attention. 
    If you and others feel it's just my TDS'ism please spare me the lecture and lets all try to get on the same page, I'm not a Hater! 
    Is all this tweet BS even necessary for a successful Presidency in this 'shiny squirrel' society, have we become this stupid?

One of the most pressing seemed to be a meeting with Kim Kardashian to talk about prison reform.  I had to ask myself what can the Kardashians do about prison reform?
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Sighlass on May 31, 2018, 12:31:16 am
If you were not so set on being 'clever' you would realize that Trump has saved this country and deserves your respect, not your cheap shots.

@Emjay You seem to be a nice person, but that was just creepy. I also have watched her shows (past and one debut new) and I see nothing redeeming about the show (same ole liberal crapola)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/qm1klregx/Cringe2.jpg)

Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: LMAO on May 31, 2018, 01:01:20 am
@Emjay

How many real issues are more important then the media bias?  The media has a huge impact on popular opinion, on elections, on issues like gun control.  Their impact is massive.

We complain all the time about media bias.  Then when someone tweaks the media and might have some marginal impact to reduce media bias what do we do?  We complain because it was Trump who said something.

Unfreakin believeable

Polls have shown that trust in the press is at record lows. The American public is aware of media bias
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: LMAO on May 31, 2018, 01:05:08 am
Really stupid thing for POTUS to comment on and get involved in.

@RoosGirl

Agree.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: LauraTXNM on May 31, 2018, 01:22:37 am
I know Woody Guthrie also.  Great folk influence but had Huntington's, a horrible disease that is completely hereditary.  If a parent has it, there is a 50% chance that the child will have it.  Arlo was afraid to take the test for years, but he missed it.

It is in my family as well, a beloved niece inherited it.  The thing about Huntington's is that the people are usually extremely talented and intelligent.  Maybe someone will figure that out someday/

@Emjay Wow, you know/knew Woody Guthrie and Bob Dylan?  You lucky duck ;).  I'm very sorry about your niece ;(.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: RoosGirl on May 31, 2018, 01:25:16 am
@Emjay Wow, you know/knew Woody Guthrie and Bob Dylan?  You lucky duck ;).  I'm very sorry about your niece ;(.

You should ask her about the time she met Ulysses Grant.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: driftdiver on May 31, 2018, 01:29:21 am
You should ask her about the time she met Ulysses Grant.

@RoosGirl

Not important.  An individual cannot have any influence.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: corbe on May 31, 2018, 01:31:27 am
   She also 'slapped around' Janis Joplin while in High School, that's why I love that spunky girl. 
@Emjay
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: RoosGirl on May 31, 2018, 01:31:28 am
@RoosGirl

Not important.  An individual cannot have any influence.

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything, but you should have a better opinion of yourself.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: driftdiver on May 31, 2018, 01:33:10 am
I'm not sure what that has to do with anything, but you should have a better opinion of yourself.

@RoosGirl

I learned that from you.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: RoosGirl on May 31, 2018, 01:36:29 am
@RoosGirl

I learned that from you.

And now you've completely lost me.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Emjay on May 31, 2018, 01:49:33 am
@Emjay You seem to be a nice person, but that was just creepy. I also have watched her shows (past and one debut new) and I see nothing redeeming about the show (same ole liberal crapola)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/qm1klregx/Cringe2.jpg)

Why was that creepy.  Why are some people so terrified about giving Trump credit?  The fact is that Trump's election did save us.

The fact is that Trump is something of a miracle.  Not saying a miracle sent from God, but a miracle for the country.

It is unbelievable that Trump thought he could run for President; that he could actually get the nomination; and especially that he could be elected.

But that happened.  Historians will be kept in quill pens for years trying to figure out how and why but the fact is that Trump, more than any other politician of his time, struck a deep chord with The People.  He said what they wanted to hear... what they had been hungry to hear for years.

I didn't want Trump ... I wanted Ted Cruz.  But in retrospect, I don't think Ted Cruz could have beaten Hillary.  Trump was a man for his time.  An odd man for his time, maybe, but he did save the country. 

Yeah, the country might have survived 8 years of Obama (that we are still suffering for) followed by 4 years of Hillary, but the country would have been very damaged by the time that crew got through.  You can see by the hissy fits both Hillary and the Obama's are having daily that this was their country and this Bumpkin had no right to it.

And, while the NTers continue to nitpick Trump and what they call his lack of progress and his failure to keep his promises, the fact remains that everything that Trump has proposed and fought for is what most conservatives want. 

So, yeah, I support Trump and I hope that he can manage to get the needed seats in the Senate to get some of his proposals passed.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Emjay on May 31, 2018, 01:51:26 am
@Emjay Wow, you know/knew Woody Guthrie and Bob Dylan?  You lucky duck ;).  I'm very sorry about your niece ;(.

Kidding, @LauraTXNM   I didn't know either of them.  But it's true about my niece and I'm sorry as well.  It is family tragedy and it's not over.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Emjay on May 31, 2018, 01:54:05 am
@Emjay You seem to be a nice person, but that was just creepy. I also have watched her shows (past and one debut new) and I see nothing redeeming about the show (same ole liberal crapola)


@Sighlass   This is not about Roseanne or her show.  It is about the tyranny of the liberal entertainment media.  They are trying to bend minds by both subtly and overtly putting liberal shows on.   
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: RoosGirl on May 31, 2018, 02:16:33 am
Why was that creepy.  Why are some people so terrified about giving Trump credit?  The fact is that Trump's election did save us.

The fact is that Trump is something of a miracle.  Not saying a miracle sent from God, but a miracle for the country.

It is unbelievable that Trump thought he could run for President; that he could actually get the nomination; and especially that he could be elected.

But that happened.  Historians will be kept in quill pens for years trying to figure out how and why but the fact is that Trump, more than any other politician of his time, struck a deep chord with The People.  He said what they wanted to hear... what they had been hungry to hear for years.

I didn't want Trump ... I wanted Ted Cruz.  But in retrospect, I don't think Ted Cruz could have beaten Hillary.  Trump was a man for his time.  An odd man for his time, maybe, but he did save the country. 

Yeah, the country might have survived 8 years of Obama (that we are still suffering for) followed by 4 years of Hillary, but the country would have been very damaged by the time that crew got through.  You can see by the hissy fits both Hillary and the Obama's are having daily that this was their country and this Bumpkin had no right to it.

And, while the NTers continue to nitpick Trump and what they call his lack of progress and his failure to keep his promises, the fact remains that everything that Trump has proposed and fought for is what most conservatives want. 

So, yeah, I support Trump and I hope that he can manage to get the needed seats in the Senate to get some of his proposals passed.

It ain't rocket surgery.  Seriously, the man couldn't win the popular vote and essentially won the election by the skin of his teeth.  If turnout in FL and PA had been like it was in 2012 Trump would have lost.

Anyway, I'm sure you or any of the other Trump supporters won't pardon me for hating that $1.whatevertrillion in new spending Trump just signed, but I don't really give a bleep if y'all do.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: edpc on May 31, 2018, 02:35:01 am
Anyway, I'm sure you or any of the other Trump supporters won't pardon me for hating that $1.whatevertrillion in new spending Trump just signed, but I don't really give a bleep if y'all do.


Oh stop it.  He said he would never sign a bill like that again.  He promised - just like his promises to Ivana, Marla, and Melanie.....I mean Melania.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Hoodat on May 31, 2018, 02:50:26 pm
Anyway, I'm sure you or any of the other Trump supporters won't pardon me for hating that $1.whatevertrillion in new spending Trump just signed, but I don't really give a bleep if y'all do.

Ditto, my dear.  Ditto.

If Trump balances the budget, then I will kiss his ring.  But if he signs a budget with a deficit higher than his Marxist predecessor left him with, then I am going to call him on it.

And to think that Bush had gotten the deficit down to $165 billion before Pelosi was handed the gavel.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on May 31, 2018, 03:06:27 pm
You get weird when you're hungry.  Have another sammich.
Don't do it @driftdiver .  They are just jealous of your sick burns. 888high58888
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: RoosGirl on May 31, 2018, 03:47:19 pm
Don't do it @driftdiver .  They are just jealous of your sick burns. 888high58888

Are his sick burns like these?


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Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on May 31, 2018, 04:21:38 pm
Are his sick burns like these?
Those are some meaty chops.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on May 31, 2018, 05:43:15 pm
http://babylonbee.com/news/nations-conservatives-blame-ambien-for-decision-to-adopt-roseanne-as-political-spokesperson/ (http://babylonbee.com/news/nations-conservatives-blame-ambien-for-decision-to-adopt-roseanne-as-political-spokesperson/)
Nation’s Conservatives Blame Ambien For Decision To Adopt Roseanne As Political Spokesperson

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U.S—After Roseanne Barr’s recent rise to political stardom and subsequent implosion caused by a racist tweet, the nation’s conservatives almost immediately blamed prescription sedative Ambien for their poor decision-making in adopting her as a political icon for their movement.

Conservatives claim to have been “Ambien-politicking” when they made the decision to hold Roseanne up as some sort of cultural mascot, and asked for the country to “forget this ever happened.”

“Guys, we did something unforgivable so don’t defend us,” a leading conservative spokesperson said in a somber press conference. “It was two in the morning and we were on heavy doses of Ambien, so we decided to go ahead and throw all of our chips on Roseanne as our very own Hollywood political pundit. It was egregious and indefensible. We made a mistake we wish we hadn’t.”

More at link
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Oceander on May 31, 2018, 05:44:18 pm
http://babylonbee.com/news/nations-conservatives-blame-ambien-for-decision-to-adopt-roseanne-as-political-spokesperson/ (http://babylonbee.com/news/nations-conservatives-blame-ambien-for-decision-to-adopt-roseanne-as-political-spokesperson/)
Nation’s Conservatives Blame Ambien For Decision To Adopt Roseanne As Political Spokesperson

More at link

Ambien-nominating would explain Trump. 
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: driftdiver on May 31, 2018, 05:46:22 pm
Ambien-nominating would explain Trump.

@Oceander
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Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on May 31, 2018, 06:01:59 pm
@Oceander
(http://www.booksatruestory.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/dumbledore-clapping.gif)

You got a special friend @Oceander@driftdiver is applauding in his own feeble way.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: driftdiver on May 31, 2018, 06:04:03 pm
You got a special friend @Oceander@driftdiver is applauding in his own feeble way.

@Once-Ler
(http://www.sharegif.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/horseapplausethumbs-uphorse-maskclapping.gif)
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Oceander on May 31, 2018, 06:04:46 pm
You got a special friend @Oceander@driftdiver is applauding in his own feeble way.

@driftdiver desperately wants me to live rent-free in his head, but the accommodations are simply too threadbare. 
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: jpsb on May 31, 2018, 06:07:33 pm
@edpc
the hate is eating you up

That is pretty much all the NTers got, hate. Trump points out the double standard the media has and the NTers have a hissy fit.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: Hoodat on May 31, 2018, 06:15:49 pm
That is pretty much all the NTers got, hate. Trump points out the double standard the media has and the NTers have a hissy fit.

Of course you also have the Conservatives who are neither NT nor AT, yet have been pointing out media bias for decades.  But then that's pretty much all the ATers got - hate.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: jpsb on May 31, 2018, 06:17:51 pm
If you were not so set on being 'clever' you would realize that Trump has saved this country and deserves your respect, not your cheap shots.

 :amen:
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on May 31, 2018, 06:23:13 pm
@Once-Ler
(http://www.sharegif.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/horseapplausethumbs-uphorse-maskclapping.gif)
Why the long face @driftdiver ?
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: jpsb on May 31, 2018, 06:24:46 pm
He's saving us!  He's saaaaaving us!

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-i-G_hQxUfhQ/U_1U0o6QsII/AAAAAAAAajw/UfKrmGRDIXA/s1600/%24_57%2B(2).JPG)

LOL, are you in that picture @RoosGirl ?

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOcYTOBA0CI#)
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: RoosGirl on May 31, 2018, 06:28:43 pm
LOL, are you in that picture @RoosGirl ?

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOcYTOBA0CI#)

Me?  In a screaming crowd of ATs?  Pishposh.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: driftdiver on May 31, 2018, 06:33:28 pm
Why the long face @driftdiver ?

@Once-Ler

It's the company I keep
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: jpsb on May 31, 2018, 06:35:10 pm
Me?  In a screaming crowd of ATs?  Pishposh.

Too bad, I was going to say you were cute, back in the day.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: jpsb on May 31, 2018, 06:38:44 pm
Of course you also have the Conservatives who are neither NT nor AT, yet have been pointing out media bias for decades.  But then that's pretty much all the ATers got - hate.

The only hate I'm seeing is coming from the NTers, the rest of us enjoy seeing the bias Marxist
media getting it's fanny kicked. And we really enjoy the fact that TRUMP FIGHTS BACK.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: Hoodat on May 31, 2018, 06:47:31 pm
The only hate I'm seeing is coming from the NTers,

When you say 'NT' is it correct to assume you actually mean anyone who is not AT?
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: driftdiver on May 31, 2018, 06:48:20 pm
@driftdiver desperately wants me to live rent-free in his head, but the accommodations are simply too threadbare.

@Oceander
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l2JHS7po8pGz94TgQ/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: jpsb on May 31, 2018, 07:00:17 pm
When you say 'NT' is it correct to assume you actually mean anyone who is not AT?

No that is not a correct assumption. NeverTrumpers are small irrelevant group that enjoys putting
their hate of all things Trump on public display. If you listen to NTes pretty much everything Trump
does sucks.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: RoosGirl on May 31, 2018, 07:00:57 pm
Too bad, I was going to say you were cute, back in the day.

LOL  I wasn't even a glimmer in my mama's eye back in that day.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: Hoodat on May 31, 2018, 07:07:54 pm
No that is not a correct assumption. NeverTrumpers are small irrelevant group that enjoys putting
their hate of all things Trump on public display. If you listen to NTes pretty much everything Trump
does sucks.

@jpsb

Can you give examples here on this forum?  Seriously.  There are a select few posters here who go on and on and on about NTers, so I would like to know specifically to whom they refer.

I know of two admitted ATers here, but I haven't paid attention to the NT side, although I have been falsely accused of being one myself on numerous occasions here.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: driftdiver on May 31, 2018, 07:09:24 pm
@jpsb

Can you give examples here on this forum?  Seriously.  There are a select few posters here who go on and on and on about NTers, so I would like to know specifically to whom they refer.

I know of two admitted ATers here, but I haven't paid attention to the NT side, although I have been falsely accused of being one myself on numerous occasions here.

@Hoodat
And accurately accused as well.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Oceander on May 31, 2018, 07:11:04 pm
@Oceander
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l2JHS7po8pGz94TgQ/giphy.gif)

As I said earlier upthread:  thanks for the offer to live rent free in your head, but I’ll decline for lack of decent accommodation. 
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: driftdiver on May 31, 2018, 07:16:04 pm
As I said earlier upthread:  thanks for the offer to live rent free in your head, but I’ll decline for lack of decent accommodation.

@Oceander
You wish, but you can stay out there in la la land
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: RoosGirl on May 31, 2018, 07:18:02 pm
@Oceander
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l2JHS7po8pGz94TgQ/giphy.gif)

Bean is my favorite kind of movie/tv show to watch; no insufferable talking to sit through.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: jpsb on May 31, 2018, 07:30:18 pm
@jpsb

Can you give examples here on this forum?  Seriously.  There are a select few posters here who go on and on and on about NTers, so I would like to know specifically to whom they refer.

I know of two admitted ATers here, but I haven't paid attention to the NT side, although I have been falsely accused of being one myself on numerous occasions here.

I am not going to name any names. I consider that to be in poor taste and management does not
like it either.  It is much better to bash the generic NeverTrumper then to get personal with some
NTer briefer.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: aligncare on May 31, 2018, 07:47:42 pm
I’m taken aback that some people would try to minimize the role the president plays in American society.

Who gets into office, and the actions that president takes in office have a measurable impact on the economy, jobs, border safety, electorate mood, stock market, social trends, military actions and troop safety, all sorts of effects. All in their haste to deny any credit to a man who fights back, who expresses his outrage; someone they they look down on because he doesn’t do the same old act-above-it-all, gentile (yet duplicitous), political Kabuki.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: Emjay on May 31, 2018, 08:22:02 pm
When you say 'NT' is it correct to assume you actually mean anyone who is not AT?

If you actually want the terms explained, I would say the people you describe as AT are those generally favorable to Trump and who view his proposals on their merits without snarkiness.

The people who are NT are intent on extolling their own virtue, as in they are too good to be for Trump and they think there is some magical person or party who could do what Trump does, but do it more elegantly.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: driftdiver on May 31, 2018, 08:27:32 pm
I’m taken aback that some people would try to minimize the role the president plays in American society.

Who gets into office, and the actions that president takes in office have a measurable impact on the economy, jobs, border safety, electorate mood, stock market, social trends, military actions and troop safety, all sorts of effects. All in their haste to deny any credit to a man who fights back, who expresses his outrage; someone they they look down on because he doesn’t do the same old act-above-it-all, gentile (yet duplicitous), political Kabuki.

@aligncare
Yep kinda hard to fathom
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Suppressed on May 31, 2018, 08:29:17 pm
I’m taken aback that some people would try to minimize the role the president plays in American society.

Yes, the Constitutional role has become terribly twisted.  The title means the one to "preside", not "dictate".
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: Hoodat on May 31, 2018, 08:45:05 pm
I am not going to name any names. I consider that to be in poor taste and management does not
like it either.  It is much better to bash the generic NeverTrumper then to get personal with some
NTer briefer.

I understand.   It is the same thing that Democrats do.  Instead of addressing specifics that may expose the flaws of their arguments, they simply plunge forward against some demon scapegoat group.   (e.g. NTers, NRA members, 'the rich", Jews, etc.)
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: RoosGirl on May 31, 2018, 08:45:12 pm
Yes, the Constitutional role has become terribly twisted.  The title means the one to "preside", not "dictate".

No one is even doing what @aligncare is saying, so he's just bitching just to be bitching.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: driftdiver on May 31, 2018, 08:47:27 pm
Yes, the Constitutional role has become terribly twisted.  The title means the one to "preside", not "dictate".

@Suppressed
Yeah I can see his dictatorial approach when he meets with Congress trying to get them to pass a bill
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: corbe on May 31, 2018, 08:49:50 pm
    I'll help you out here @jpsb
    That corbe is an NT azzhole!
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: DCPatriot on May 31, 2018, 08:50:26 pm
As I said earlier upthread:  thanks for the offer to live rent free in your head, but I’ll decline for lack of decent accommodation.

Awww....now see, you blew it there.

It would have worthy a rim shot, had you said it was unusually spacious and clutched your pearls in gratitude.

Then again, since we're talking about @driftdiver your 'compliment' is, indeed, much better.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Frank Cannon on May 31, 2018, 08:51:52 pm
Christ. By the time this thread wraps up about Roseanne, she will have started the 3rd incarnation of her program set in a nursing home.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Suppressed on May 31, 2018, 08:54:34 pm
@Suppressed
Yeah I can see his dictatorial approach when he meets with Congress trying to get them to pass a bill

Exactly.  He ignores working with them to get things passed like any competent president would have done.  He antagonized them, and then when it was obvious how badly he failed, he just goes and does things by unconstitutional executive fiat.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: DCPatriot on May 31, 2018, 08:55:32 pm
I’m taken aback that some people would try to minimize the role the president plays in American society.

Who gets into office, and the actions that president takes in office have a measurable impact on the economy, jobs, border safety, electorate mood, stock market, social trends, military actions and troop safety, all sorts of effects. All in their haste to deny any credit to a man who fights back, who expresses his outrage; someone they they look down on because he doesn’t do the same old act-above-it-all, gentile (yet duplicitous), political Kabuki.

This administration is a blockbuster 'movie'.

What this man has been able to achieve in the face of all the shit he gets 24/7.... puts Rocky more on par with Schindler's List
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: corbe on May 31, 2018, 08:57:14 pm
   And Trump, overlooking the fact, again, that she is a complete Idiot will Tweet what a wonderful series it is. 
   There's no doubt in my mind that if his nemesis Rosie Odunnel did something praising him, he would jump on it with a sweet tweet, also, see the pattern here?
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: DCPatriot on May 31, 2018, 09:15:09 pm
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Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: corbe on May 31, 2018, 09:16:26 pm
 :finger:
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Emjay on June 01, 2018, 02:14:26 am
Christ. By the time this thread wraps up about Roseanne, she will have started the 3rd incarnation of her program set in a nursing home.

Did you ever wonder what, exactly, makes people post to a thread about nothing that meaningful?

I think it is in-fighting and nobody willing to let anyone else get the last word.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Emjay on June 01, 2018, 02:16:18 am
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Now, that's funny.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Emjay on June 01, 2018, 02:20:57 am
Christ. By the time this thread wraps up about Roseanne, she will have started the 3rd incarnation of her program set in a nursing home.

Roseanne will never be seen again, while Samantha Bee stays on TV.  Go figure.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Oceander on June 01, 2018, 02:24:51 am
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Definitely.  And take video, too.   
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: jpsb on June 01, 2018, 12:08:33 pm
I understand.   It is the same thing that Democrats do.  Instead of addressing specifics that may expose the flaws of their arguments, they simply plunge forward against some demon scapegoat group.   (e.g. NTers, NRA members, 'the rich", Jews, etc.)


@Hoodat

Management has made it very clear that we are not to get personal with other briefers. So I am
NOT going to name names and start a fight. In short I'm not taking the bait. Nice try. If you don't
like it take it up with @mystery-ak, she makes the rules here.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: Hoodat on June 01, 2018, 03:47:53 pm
I am not going to name any names. I consider that to be in poor taste and management does not
like it either.  It is much better to bash the generic NeverTrumper then to get personal with some
NTer briefer.

Fair enough.  I understand your need to keep your stereotypical generalizations intact by avoiding any specific scrutiny.  The only reason I press the issue is because I constantly see the NT boogeyman brought up any time I or many of my like-minded fellow posters says anything critical of Donald Trump.  And after two years of it, it is really getting old.

A more useful strategy would be to acknowledge the wrongs during the campaign, admit that your desires do not align with what Trump actually campaigned on, and to join together now to hold Trump accountable in pushing forward a Conservative agenda.  Instead, we get "Ha-ha, we won, you lost" and a political philosophy that defines 'Conservatism' as 'anything Trump does'.

I got news for you.  There is nothing either Conservative or good about a $1 trillion budget deficit.  Nor does it make America great again.  It only hurts America.  It steals from every man, woman, and child in this country.  So you can either get on board with Making America Great Again, or you can get on board with Trump.  But the two are not the same.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: Sanguine on June 01, 2018, 04:10:05 pm
....

A more useful strategy would be to acknowledge the wrongs during the campaign, admit that your desires do not align with what Trump actually campaigned on, and to join together now to hold Trump accountable in pushing forward a Conservative agenda.  Instead, we get "Ha-ha, we won, you lost" and a political philosophy that defines 'Conservatism' as 'anything Trump does'.


....

@Hoodat, that is good!  Very well said!
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: Emjay on June 01, 2018, 06:22:56 pm
Fair enough.  I understand your need to keep your stereotypical generalizations intact by avoiding any specific scrutiny.  The only reason I press the issue is because I constantly see the NT boogeyman brought up any time I or many of my like-minded fellow posters says anything critical of Donald Trump.  And after two years of it, it is really getting old.

A more useful strategy would be to acknowledge the wrongs during the campaign, admit that your desires do not align with what Trump actually campaigned on, and to join together now to hold Trump accountable in pushing forward a Conservative agenda.  Instead, we get "Ha-ha, we won, you lost" and a political philosophy that defines 'Conservatism' as 'anything Trump does'.

I got news for you.  There is nothing either Conservative or good about a $1 trillion budget deficit.  Nor does it make America great again.  It only hurts America.  It steals from every man, woman, and child in this country.  So you can either get on board with Making America Great Again, or you can get on board with Trump.  But the two are not the same.

@Hoodat   The budget is the thing that NTers continue to bludgeon Trump with.  Yeah, because it is all they've got.  However, questionable that budget was ... and we don't really know, it was better than an extended fight leading to nowhere.

Right now, Trump and America are the same in the sense that he is fighting to protect American values in so many ways.  And tell me who else is doing that?

I hated the campaign of Trump.  So much it got me kicked off the old site.  But I live in reality-ville as Rush would say.  Trump did us a solid.  He maybe have been the only Republican capable of beating Hillary.  That alone earns him points with me, but not with you, apparently.

Trump has done so many good things and been foiled in his attempts to do so many more good things.  I think if we can keep him around long enough for the left and the press to fire all their best shots and still lose, that he will make America better again.

Your failed zinger because a poster chose not to call out specific people is pathetic.  It would have been wrong to do so.
 


Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: RoosGirl on June 01, 2018, 06:30:49 pm
@Hoodat   The budget is the thing that NTers continue to bludgeon Trump with.  Yeah, because it is all they've got.  However, questionable that budget was ... and we don't really know, it was better than an extended fight leading to nowhere.

Right now, Trump and America are the same in the sense that he is fighting to protect American values in so many ways.  And tell me who else is doing that?

I hated the campaign of Trump.  So much it got me kicked off the old site.  But I live in reality-ville as Rush would say.  Trump did us a solid.  He maybe have been the only Republican capable of beating Hillary.  That alone earns him points with me, but not with you, apparently.

Trump has done so many good things and been foiled in his attempts to do so many more good things.  I think if we can keep him around long enough for the left and the press to fire all their best shots and still lose, that he will make America better again.

Your failed zinger because a poster chose not to call out specific people is pathetic.  It would have been wrong to do so.

Points for maybe doing something.  So weird.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: corbe on June 01, 2018, 07:15:34 pm
    You NT'ers need to get past your BS and award Trump his:

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Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: Emjay on June 01, 2018, 10:11:42 pm
    You NT'ers need to get past your BS and award Trump his:

(http://therealrevo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/participant.jpg)

No, @corbe  That award is for you.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silence On Roseanne
Post by: corbe on June 01, 2018, 10:19:30 pm
   I'll take it @Emjay there are still a few of us here that are trying to keep this place from going 'full on' Trump Central, like TOS and Trumpbart.
   We are rarely applauded for our efforts and this trophy is positive 'affirmation' for me.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: Hoodat on June 02, 2018, 12:06:52 am
@Hoodat   The budget is the thing that NTers continue to bludgeon Trump with.

As someone who is neither AT nor NT, I can attest that there are a great number of people here - people like me - who champion Conservatism.  And the first rule of Conservatism is that you don't spend money you don't have.  So no, this isn't a NT thing.  It is a Conservative thing, which is why you don't recognize it.

And it isn't about bludgeoning Trump.  It is about decrying the fact that our deficit is higher now than it was when Obama left office.  And there is nothing at all Conservative about that.


@HoodatYeah, because it is all they've got.

You woefully underestimate the shortcomings of this Administration.  By the way, how is that wall coming along?


However, questionable that budget was ... and we don't really know,

But we do know.  It was $1 trillion more than we had.  That is $1 trillion that will not be available for investment capital for our economic future.


it was better than an extended fight leading to nowhere.

Extended fight?  We gave Democrats more than they even asked for.  Extended fight?  Hell, there was zero fight.  We even gave Planned Parenthood half a billion dollars just for good measure.


Right now, Trump and America are the same in the sense that he is fighting to protect American values in so many ways.

I don't have a problem with that.  But that fact doesn't compel me to lie about the bad stuff not really being bad at all.  Obviously, you are easily compelled in that regard.


Your failed zinger because a poster chose not to call out specific people is pathetic.  It would have been wrong to do so.

It is equally wrong to bring up the NT boogeyman again and again while directing comments to this forum, just as you have done.  Once again, the fallacy here is that if anyone opposes Trump on anything, then that person is NT.  It is a lie, and one that I have grown sick of over the past two years.  And it is also cowardly.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: Emjay on June 02, 2018, 02:10:16 am
As someone who is neither AT nor NT, I can attest that there are a great number of people here - people like me - who champion Conservatism.  And the first rule of Conservatism is that you don't spend money you don't have.  So no, this isn't a NT thing.  It is a Conservative thing, which is why you don't recognize it.

And it isn't about bludgeoning Trump.  It is about decrying the fact that our deficit is higher now than it was when Obama left office.  And there is nothing at all Conservative about that.


You woefully underestimate the shortcomings of this Administration.  By the way, how is that wall coming along?


But we do know.  It was $1 trillion more than we had.  That is $1 trillion that will not be available for investment capital for our economic future.


Extended fight?  We gave Democrats more than they even asked for.  Extended fight?  Hell, there was zero fight.  We even gave Planned Parenthood half a billion dollars just for good measure.


I don't have a problem with that.  But that fact doesn't compel me to lie about the bad stuff not really being bad at all.  Obviously, you are easily compelled in that regard.


It is equally wrong to bring up the NT boogeyman again and again while directing comments to this forum, just as you have done.  Once again, the fallacy here is that if anyone opposes Trump on anything, then that person is NT.  It is a lie, and one that I have grown sick of over the past two years.  And it is also cowardly.

You used a lot of words @Hoodat ... and thanks for throwing in that little zinger about me not being conservative.  Cute.  You were also personal in implying that I don't have a problem with lying.

I think bad stuff is bad.  I just don't see as much bad stuff as you do and I see a heck of a lot more good stuff.

If I've called you NT, it's because that is the general impression you give.  But I don't think I've called you NT because I try not to insult people personally.  You should consider doing that.
Title: Re: Trump Breaks His Silece On Roseanne
Post by: RoosGirl on June 02, 2018, 02:17:19 am
You used a lot of words @Hoodat ... and thanks for throwing in that little zinger about me not being conservative.  Cute.  You were also personal in implying that I don't have a problem with lying.

I think bad stuff is bad.  I just don't see as much bad stuff as you do and I see a heck of a lot more good stuff.

If I've called you NT, it's because that is the general impression you give.  But I don't think I've called you NT because I try not to insult people personally.  You should consider doing that.

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