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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: TomSea on November 12, 2016, 04:49:09 pm
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Michele Bachmann on Trump victory: ‘God did this’
BY BROOKE SEIPEL - 11/09/16
Former Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) said Donald Trump's victory is " proof positive of what the Lord did."
In an appearance on “Right Wing Watch News,” Bachmann talked about a prayer circle she participated in on Tuesday evening.
“This was the moment when the whole race broke, when prayer began, when the church came out and then we see a 30-point swing here, a 30-point swing here and now we see the swing to a 95 percent chance of winning Trump,” on the New York Times election tracker.
“Already we know that the glory goes to the God Almighty, the God of the Universe, the Sovereign Lord. He is the one who did this for us.”
Bachmann said earlier in the campaign that she believes God chose Trump to run.
"I actually supported Ted Cruz. I thought he was fabulous, but I also see that at the end of the day, God raised up, I believe, Donald Trump who was going to be the nominee in this election," Bachmann told CNN in an interview in August.
Read More At: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/305227-michele-bachmann-on-trump-victory-god-did-this
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Do you all remember the days when we used to laugh at Obama supporters for talking like this?
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Michele Bachmann on Election Night Prayer: 'The Lord Did This'
"We have a prayer room here," Bachmann said in a video of the program, "we had people all across the United States joining with our prayer room here in Dallas in prayer, and look what happened. This was the moment when the whole race broke, when prayer began, when the church came out and then we see a 30-point swing here, a 30-point swing here and now we see the swing to a 95 percent chance of winning Trump, a five percent chance of winning Clinton. It's phenomenal!"
"Already we know that the glory goes to the God Almighty," she said, "the God of the Universe, the Sovereign Lord. He is the one who did this for us. He did, because His people got on their knees and cried out to Holy God and said, 'We can't go down this road any more, Father, we ask you for your mercy.' And this is the proof positive of what the Lord did. The Lord did this!"
http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2016/november/michele-bachmann-on-election-night-prayer-the-lord-did-this
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I prayed that God would spare the USA from the corrupt lying Hitlery.
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Do you all remember the days when we used to laugh at Obama supporters for talking like this?
Such thinking is dangerous.
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Such thinking is dangerous.
If people believe that politicians were sent by God , they start believing that politician can do no wrong and should never be questioned
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If people believe that politicians were sent by God , they start believing that politician can do no wrong and should never be questioned
Yup.
We believe on this earth in Adolf Hitler alone! We believe in National Socialism as the creed which is the sole source of grace! We believe that Almighty God has sent us Adolf Hitler so that he may rid Germany of the hypocrites and Pharisees. - Robert Ley German Labor Front
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Do you all remember the days when we used to laugh at Obama supporters for talking like this?
Shut up, Michele. You're an idiot, and also an embarrassment to Republicans and conservatives.
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Perhaps.
It sure as hell wasn't Sinkspur or AbaraXas. :whistle:
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Palin and Bachmann have been called the worse, by people like Bill Maher, but now there is a new Sheriff in town.
Glenn Beck urged all of this praying and fasting for Cruz; never in my mind would I call Beck an idiot for saying that, he might have even said equally flattering things about Cruz.
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http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2016/november/michele-bachmann-on-election-night-prayer-the-lord-did-this
Saying the "Lord did this" as CBN says, sounds a bit more palatable than "God did this" even if it basically means the same.
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And the devil sent Obama. Maybe Bachmann is right.
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Do you all remember the days when we used to laugh at Obama supporters for talking like this?
I laugh at anyone that speaks of politicians like this, their side, our side, any side. I sure hope no one starts writing songs about Trump. The only people that "did this" are the American people, I hope they chose more wisely than they did Obama. I have great disdain for those that are so insecure they must hero worship politicians, athletes and celebrities. When someone performs acts worthy of Sainthood, or a miracle occurs, when I revel in the beauty of our world is when I say "God did this".
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I laugh at anyone that speaks of politicians like this, their side, our side, any side. I sure hope no one starts writing songs about Trump. The only people that "did this" are the American people, I hope they chose more wisely than they did Obama. I have great disdain for those that are so insecure they must hero worship politicians, athletes and celebrities. When someone performs acts worthy of Sainthood, or a miracle occurs, when I revel in the beauty of our world is when I say "God did this".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7pv7sO5Gng
Not only this, Christians did lift Trump to the nomination, giving him support. There was an article posted showing this.
No one is calling Trump a Messiah, people are haling a stunning victory and stunning victory over the evil of the Democratic Party.
Sounds like sour grapes.
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We need to be praying for America and her people that the corruption in our collective hearts will be cleansed, that we will be forgiven, and that we never, ever again have to choose between two completely ungodly, corrupt, and immoral people such as Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump.
The lesson to be learned in this election spiritually, is that we need a revival in this nation so that no one ever mistakes the desire for political power for God's will.
I believe that the "evangelical" community will have a lot to answer for before a Holy God, for what they overlooked and even commended in pushing Donald Trump on us.
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Not only this, Christians did lift Trump to the nomination, giving him support. There was an article posted showing this.
83% of the Christian vote.
LOL! Not all Christians are 'principled', I guess.
Just ones here on the forum and the remainder who make up that 17% that didn't.
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83% of the Christian vote.
LOL! Not all Christians are 'principled', I guess.
Just ones here on the forum and the remainder who make up that 17% that didn't.
In your sarcasm, you are speaking the truth, DC.
The Scripture talks of a remnant that is true to God's word. It's not the majority who remain faithful.
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In your sarcasm, you are speaking the truth, DC.
The Scripture talks of a remnant that is true to God's word. It's not the majority who remain faithful.
The funny thing is that these same posters are the ones who will declare that candidates need to shut up about religion unless they're praising Lil Man Donnie.
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The funny thing is that these same posters are the ones who will declare that candidates need to shut up about religion unless they're praising Lil Man Donnie.
Absolutely.
I can quote many Godly people, solid Christians who truthfully talked about how immoral and ungodly Donald Trump is.
I'm sure they wouldn't get the praise that the "evangelicals" who sacrificed Biblical truth for political power always get from anti-religious Trump supporters.
And I'm not going to shut up about what Scripture really says, no matter who tries to shame me into doing it.
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Bachmann mentions in her anecdote that they were praying and when the reports of Florida along with NC were first coming in, it did look like another 2012; and it is "stunning" if not saying "miraculous" how all of that did change and about 45 minutes later, all of a sudden, Trump-Pence were leading in Florida never to look back. That did happen.
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Was she always one toke over the line or is this a new level of insanity for Blackman?
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Perhaps the Lord permitted it to happen. Not the same as causing. :shrug:
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Was she always one toke over the line or is this a new level of insanity for Blackman?
Always. Wears God on her sleeve with pride. It cost her her election and she learned nothing from it.
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Perhaps the Lord permitted it to happen. Not the same as causing. :shrug:
Agree. Believing in God's Sovereignty and permissive will allows us to believe that God knew it was going to happen and LET it happen is far from believing that this is what God wants for us.
History is replete with examples that illustrate that point.
And the discussion of why God allows bad things to happen and the problem of evil has a strong history.
I read some good stuff from the Colson Center yesterday about how it is the weakness of Christianity in America that allowed this awful choice between two awful people in this election.
If we valued integrity in America, neither Clinton NOR Trump would have been the nominees of our two major parties.
But God did allow that, just as He allowed Bill Clinton and Barack Obama to be elected.
I doubt Michele was singing the praises of Obama as God's chosen back in 2008.........
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Vice President Mike Pence embodies Christian values and yes, that was basically Mr. Trump's first big decision as nominee for the party, say what one wants. His first presidential decision.
Indeed, a theological discussion can proceed from this.
I have no problems with one saying one could see the hand of God in all of this.
Christians overwhelmingly supported Trump.
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Shut up, Michele. You're an idiot, and also an embarrassment to Republicans and conservatives.
Petulant 8888crybaby
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I am glad a man like Pence will be part of this administration.
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I am glad a man like Pence will be part of this administration.
Ditto
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In a couple of years, if we still have the internet - we should remind Bachman that what came under Trump, must also be from God.
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God also let Nebuchadnezzar run roughshod over his people, so there's that.
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I am glad a man like Pence will be part of this administration.
It's the only thing that keeps me from abject panic at this point in time.
It looks like Trump may go counter-type and give Pence some authority..
We'll see how long it lasts, though. His ego is so overwhelming that he may decide he needs all the glory and mess things up.
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The lesson to be learned in this election spiritually, is that we need a revival in this nation so that no one ever mistakes the desire for political power for God's will.
Hold on now... In the technical aspect, it is well within Christian thought to declare this election within the Father's will - It obviously is. He says he raises up kings and tears down nations. To say, "God did this," is perfectly legit, whether directly by his hand, or allowed... That it has come to pass means it is within His will.
It is the assignation of salvatory motive that should rightly be called out - Singing 'Onward Christian Soldiers' with this lecherous gasbag dressed as Moses at the front is so ridiculous as to be nearly comical, if it wasn't so insipid and uninspired...
As to revival... pray hard.
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Michelle, we hardly know ye.
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That Pence stood with the man whose audio release showed him to be the most base, perverted man, second only to Larry Flynt, tells me all I need to know about Pence.
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Oh, STOP IT!!!
Of course God had a hand in it.
But, only because Ronald Reagan persuaded Him to give us one more chance.
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:amen:
I prayed that God would spare the USA from the corrupt lying Hitlery.
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If people believe that politicians were sent by God , they start believing that politician can do no wrong and should never be questioned
Foolishness
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Do you all remember the days when we used to laugh at Obama supporters for talking like this?
the Donny DEVOTEES are truly exact the Mirror Image of The Obama Zombies!! :thud:
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But, only because Ronald Reagan persuaded Him to give us one more chance.
Trump speaking at Gettyburg may have gotten Abe Lincoln's attention as well.
Looking forward to President Trump and the revival of Americanism.
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We need to be praying for America and her people that the corruption in our collective hearts will be cleansed, that we will be forgiven, and that we never, ever again have to choose between two completely ungodly, corrupt, and immoral people such as Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump.
The lesson to be learned in this election spiritually, is that we need a revival in this nation so that no one ever mistakes the desire for political power for God's will.
I believe that the "evangelical" community will have a lot to answer for before a Holy God, for what they overlooked and even commended in pushing Donald Trump on us.
Sin is sin in the eyes of GOD . Trump has his and you have yours . No difference .
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Sin is sin in the eyes of GOD . Trump has his and you have yours . No difference .
No difference, I agree.
But I have been forgiven because I have confessed, and he has claimed he doesn't have anything to ask forgiveness for, and has repeatedly bragged about his sin.
Therein lies the difference.
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Pharisees, Sadducees .musiclady
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Pharisees, Sadducees .musiclady
What I find interesting, and a tool of the Adversary, is that anytime someone points out sin, they are almost automatically accused of being a Pharisee and Sadducee, without any understanding of what they were and why Jesus excoriated them to begin with.
We see this with self-identifying Christians who embrace homosexual marriage and accuse those who still call those behaviors sin, to be Pharisees and Sadducees.
Because in this perverted culture - the only sins that exist are those who call evil what it is, and those who refuse to bow down to the government and culture.
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Pharisees, Sadducees .musiclady
I acknowledge that I am a sinner. I know that my sins can only be forgiven through the Blood of Jesus Christ, the Sinless Lamb of God. I have confessed my sins to him, and know that without Him, I am no more than filthy rags. And I know that through Him, I can have eternal life, and not through any goodness in my heart............ because without Him, there is none there.
If your ludicrous name calling makes you feel better, so be it. It's on your head.
But your accusations cannot be any farther from the truth.
And if you have a shred of honesty in you, I think you understand that.
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What I find interesting, and a tool of the Adversary, is that anytime someone points out sin, they are almost automatically accused of being a Pharisee and Sadducee, without any understanding of what they were and why Jesus excoriated them to begin with.
We see this with self-identifying Christians who embrace homosexual marriage and accuse those who still call those behaviors sin, to be Pharisees and Sadducees.
Because in this perverted culture - the only sins that exist are those who call evil what it is, and those who refuse to bow down to the government and culture.
Agree. It is those who seek to cover up, and not acknowledge the presence of sin, who are the first to cast stones at those who actually believe the words of Scripture. Those who are caught up in the sins of the culture, who accuse Christians of believing in a morality beyond ourselves of being "self-righteous," when that is the opposite of what we believe.
It happens all the time.
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What I find interesting, and a tool of the Adversary, is that anytime someone points out sin, they are almost automatically accused of being a Pharisee and Sadducee, without any understanding of what they were and why Jesus excoriated them to begin with.
We see this with self-identifying Christians who embrace homosexual marriage and accuse those who still call those behaviors sin, to be Pharisees and Sadducees.
Because in this perverted culture - the only sins that exist are those who call evil what it is, and those who refuse to bow down to the government and culture.
God made man in his image. Man then returned the favor. Thats where polytheistic faiths have an advantage. They simply go with the god that best reflects their worldview. Wanna chase people down with dogs? There's a god for that. Sodomy don't Bother you? There's one for that too!
With Christianity, everyone has to project their diametrically opposed visions on the same guy. This is the biggest reason I left organized religion and choose instead to carry on a more one on one worship of the Almighty. Everyone seems to know for a fact their bastardization of what he actually said in his all time best seller is the 'one true way'.
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Because in this perverted culture - the only sins that exist are those who call evil what it is, and those who refuse to bow down to the government and culture.
Precisely right = the pharisees and sadducees were wicked = Twisting the truth of Torah to suit their purposes. To those with eyes to see and ears to hear, in every_single_case, where Yeshua challenged the Pharisees, it was because they were accusing as sin, that which Torah does not say is sin.
In *NO* case did Yeshua allow sin to be disregarded. Not once.
Shabbat Shalom, brother!
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It may be premature to declare anything the work of God until you see if the fruits are Godly or not.
Right now, even ignoring Trump's troubled past (just to give him the benefit of the doubt), you just have his promises, not his deeds.
We will know within the first week then within the first 3 months, if he is a truth teller or just another BS artist.
He made very clear 'day one' and 'first 100 days' promises. If he keeps them, good for him, and I'll gladly say I was wrong. If not, we know what we suspected about his word.
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Precisely right = the pharisees and sadducees were wicked = Twisting the truth of Torah to suit their purposes. To those with eyes to see and ears to hear, in every_single_case, where Yeshua challenged the Pharisees, it was because they were accusing as sin, that which Torah does not say is sin.
In *NO* case did Yeshua allow sin to be disregarded. Not once.
Shabbat Shalom, brother!
And yet, that is precisely what we are being told we must do, or we are called "Pharisees."
There is no doubt in my mind as to the source of that Lie.
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we should laugh in their faces for such idiocy
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And yet, that is precisely what we are being told we must do, or we are called "Pharisees."
There is no doubt in my mind as to the source of that Lie.
You'll probably notice that those who do only pull the God card out when it is suitful of their purpose. I would note someone we all know whose avatars and post graphics were rather 'holy' at only certain times. And no they arent.
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Perhaps the Lord permitted it to happen. Not the same as causing. :shrug:
Really, so I guess she said that it was God's doing when Obama was elected also. I don't believe that God is quite so fickle, while I absolutely believe that man is.
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Always. Wears God on her sleeve with pride. It cost her her election and she learned nothing from it.
I just figured she was another nutjob from MN. Cut from the Jesse Ven Franklin mold of fruitloops.
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I just figured she was another nutjob from MN. Cut from the Jesse Ven Franklin mold of fruitloops.
I think it's interesting that some people look at a candidate who bailed rather than lose as a prophet of God solely because she backed their candidate. If any of us ran around saying we knew the mind of God, we'd be called fruitcakes by those same people because we did not back their choice. I guess ones 'holiness' and one's honesty is in direct proportion with popular opinion.
'Murica. F' yea!
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You'll probably notice that those who do only pull the God card out when it is suitful of their purpose. I would note someone we all know whose avatars and post graphics were rather 'holy' at only certain times. And no they arent.
Must be someone I have on Ignore. :dx1:
I do notice that the guy who threw out the inane and tired old "You're a Pharisee" attack, cut and ran rather than defend his 'theological' position that those of us who call sin what it is must be evil.
Guess the New England snowstorm knows he didn't have even an iceberg to stand on with that silly post.
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What I find interesting, and a tool of the Adversary, is that anytime someone points out sin, they are almost automatically accused of being a Pharisee and Sadducee, without any understanding of what they were and why Jesus excoriated them to begin with.
We see this with self-identifying Christians who embrace homosexual marriage and accuse those who still call those behaviors sin, to be Pharisees and Sadducees.
Because in this perverted culture - the only sins that exist are those who call evil what it is, and those who refuse to bow down to the government and culture.
Very good post thank you.
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Our local congressman was damned with the phrase...........tea party values. He supported paying for spending, traditional marriage and no transgenders using the girls bathroom.
The local rag, The Record endorsed a former Clinton speech writer. The dem won. NJ is blue, solid blue, thanks to CC.
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Very good post thank you.
Ummmm.............. but YOU are the one who made the ludicrous accusation just because I didn't excuse Donald Trump's unconfessed, and bragged about sin that resulted in that wise post by @INVAR .
Confused much?? :shrug:
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Christians speak like this, Fundamentalists speak this way, and someone like Bachmann is among his biggest supporters and advisers.
Though I find mainly left-wing sources pointing this out, how about
Kenneth Copeland saying Ted Cruz: ‘Called and Anointed to Be the Next President’
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches/2016/02/09/copeland-cruz-called-and-anointed-to-be-the-next-president/
I'm sure some would see Romney this way.
Heck, I've heard people in every day life saying "So and so was sent from Heaven".... for some reason.
It's not a big deal; and again, I'm not wired for sound, I can listen to the video but, as in other stories like the CBN story, if Bachmann said "The Lord did this", it's no big thing. "God did this" sounds a bit more assertive but largely means the same.
Beck and Cruz's father used very flattering terms as well.
(http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/rep-michele-bachmann-and-glenn-beck-wave-to-supporters-at-a-tea-party-picture-id170865484)
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This is no different that any ambulance-chasing 'journo', running down Tim Tebow....for a chance for her to say something religious.
....SO THEY CAN BE MOCKED!!!
A ten year old could have pulled this off.
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She is a looker
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She's a true believer; so, no matter what she says, she stands by it.
She has gotten so much negative press, maybe she doesn't even read what is said about her.
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I prayed that God would spare the USA from the corrupt lying Hitlery.
Me too. And I will pray for Donald Trump.
Franklin Graham said the same things as Bachman. I think there is a real danger in saying God did this. What are they going to say if he turns out to be a total secular atheistic president? Already we know that Trump wasn't a moral man. Cruz was right. The Trumps have New York values. I hope that he does accept the Lord as Savior and that he leads this nation drawing on the Wisdom of the Lord.
When you say God did this you are placing very high expectations on Trump. I hope he will live up to that.
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Me too. And I will pray for Donald Trump.
Franklin Graham said the same things as Bachman. I think there is a real danger in saying God did this. What are they going to say if he turns out to be a total secular atheistic president? Already we know that Trump wasn't a moral man. Cruz was right. The Trumps have New York values. I hope that he does accept the Lord as Savior and that he leads this nation drawing on the Wisdom of the Lord.
When you say God did this you are placing very high expectations on Trump. I hope he will live up to that.
I was very disappointed in Franklin Graham toward the end. He was doing fine in stressing voting your conscience, but then when he went full out Trump at the end, disregarding Trump's amorality, he went too far.
Presuming that this election was God's design and not his allowing sinful humanity to get their sinful way, is dangerous, IMO.
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There was a recent article that DT donated a few hundred thousand dollars to Graham's charity.
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There was a recent article that DT donated a few hundred thousand dollars to Graham's charity.
The organization named for his father, the Billy Graham Evangelical Association, got a $100,000 check a year later in 2012, while Samaritan's Purse, a Christian relief group, got $25,000 the same year, and $10,000 the next year.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-s-foundation-wrote-many-checks-path-nomination-n659811 (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-s-foundation-wrote-many-checks-path-nomination-n659811)
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There was a recent article that DT donated a few hundred thousand dollars to Graham's charity.
Money buys loyalty and often eliminates principles.
Christians have a long history of falling for that temptation.
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I was very disappointed in Franklin Graham toward the end. He was doing fine in stressing voting your conscience, but then when he went full out Trump at the end, disregarding Trump's amorality, he went too far.
Presuming that this election was God's design and not his allowing sinful humanity to get their sinful way, is dangerous, IMO.
I don't understand it but I am glad Hillary isn't President. I worry that Trump will not be able to live up to the expectations of Christians.
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Anyone ever think that what Bachmann was indicating isn't a good thing?
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Anyone ever think that what Bachmann was indicating isn't a good thing?
Plenty of bad things happen because God doesn't interfere.
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Michele Bachmann on Trump victory: ‘God did this’
This is just one more thing He is going to have to answer for when we meet face to face.
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Plenty of bad things happen because God doesn't interfere.
Exactly.
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Sin is sin in the eyes of GOD . Trump has his and you have yours . No difference .
It occurred to me after you wrote this post, @Blizzardnh that you were shamelessly trolling in order to entrap me (I should have seen it yesterday when you did it).
I posted my thoughts, legitimate and well considered..... all about Donald Trump, and the spiritual condition of America......nothing personal.
You brought me into it personally in order to bait me, because you knew the answer to your own baiting. That Trump had verbally claimed not to ask forgiveness for sin.
So when I stated a response to your baiting (silly me. I know you're a troll), you brought the axe down over my neck with your absolutely false and insane comparison of me.... a self-admitted, forgiven sinner, cleansed by the blood of the RESURRECTED Christ with not only a sinful Pharisee, but also a Sadducee, who does not even have the basic belief in Resurrection, let alone the Resurrection of my Savior, Jesus Christ.
What you did was shameful, and shameless, and shame on ME for falling into your trap of deceit.
The question is........ why are you still trolling and setting traps for non-Trump voters on this forum after you supposedly WON the election??
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Hold on now... In the technical aspect, it is well within Christian thought to declare this election within the Father's will - It obviously is. He says he raises up kings and tears down nations. To say, "God did this," is perfectly legit, whether directly by his hand, or allowed... That it has come to pass means it is within His will.
It is the assignation of salvatory motive that should rightly be called out - Singing 'Onward Christian Soldiers' with this lecherous gasbag dressed as Moses at the front is so ridiculous as to be nearly comical, if it wasn't so insipid and uninspired...
As to revival... pray hard.
I have already stated that it is clearly within God's permissive will that Trump was elected. I believe in God's Sovereignty.
What I object to in Bachmann and others, is the correlation of their political wishes with something spiritual........ especially if it brings them financial gain, or position.
She is in a dangerous position to say that "God did this" as though God actually condones an immoral reprobate cheater's behavior. I fully believe that God allowed this, but that the entire election, with two vile candidates is an example of God's allowing us to continue in our moral degradation.
Thus, the need for revival. If we don't look to God for guidance, and beg for mercy for our sinful behavior as a nation, we will never recover.
I somehow doubt we will learn the lesson we're supposed to learn from this debacle of an election.
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I just figured she was another nutjob from MN. Cut from the Jesse Ven Franklin mold of fruitloops.
She is a nutjob. Remember when she accused Rick Perry of causing the mental retardation of a young girl because of his Gardasil requirement?
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/michele-bachmanns-hpv-vaccine-safety-retardation-comments-misleading/story?id=14516625
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She is in a dangerous position to say that "God did this" as though God actually condones an immoral reprobate cheater's behavior. I fully believe that God allowed this, but that the entire election, with two vile candidates is an example of God's allowing us to continue in our moral degradation.
MUCH more likely. Especially since there were candidates available all the way along who would be considered to be more in line with what the Father considers to be right living...
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MUCH more likely. Especially since there were candidates available all the way along who would be considered to be more in line with what the Father considers to be right living...
Exactly. But the "Republican" choice was one of greed, retribution and power, with total disregard for the integrity of the candidate.
I know we are expected to give Trump a chance, but he has to turn around his life before that can happen.
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She is a nutjob. Remember when she accused Rick Perry of causing the mental retardation of a young girl because of his Gardasil requirement?
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/michele-bachmanns-hpv-vaccine-safety-retardation-comments-misleading/story?id=14516625
Yeah I did. I was Living in TX then. Perry did step over the line with that one. But MB went cocopuffs on it. I think that's when I was convinced she was a nut.
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Plenty of bad things happen because God doesn't interfere.
I like my God like my women.....with a restraining order.
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Yup.
We believe on this earth in Adolf Hitler alone! We believe in National Socialism as the creed which is the sole source of grace! We believe that Almighty God has sent us Adolf Hitler so that he may rid Germany of the hypocrites and Pharisees. - Robert Ley German Labor Front
"God With Us" belt buckle.
(http://www.nobeliefs.com/mementoes/buckle.jpeg)
One of the many examples of some who believed without question...mutterkreuz is another, and there are numerous such examples.
This image is provided as an example, the Got Mit Uns buckle was used in WWI also, without the latter heraldry. In no way is this to be construed as support for the ideologies of those who wore this regalia or belonged to the Party apparatus which it represented. This is only a warning against attributing the actions of a man to The Almighty, and thus considering them without flaw.
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What I find interesting, and a tool of the Adversary, is that anytime someone points out sin, they are almost automatically accused of being a Pharisee and Sadducee, without any understanding of what they were and why Jesus excoriated them to begin with.
We see this with self-identifying Christians who embrace homosexual marriage and accuse those who still call those behaviors sin, to be Pharisees and Sadducees.
Because in this perverted culture - the only sins that exist are those who call evil what it is, and those who refuse to bow down to the government and culture.
:amen:
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Perhaps the Lord permitted it to happen. Not the same as causing. :shrug:
The Lord's wrath will not be spared on the wicked, lest they repent.
Many will have to answer, eventually. Perhaps He spared us from a Clinton SCOTUS appointment, but that short-term gain may be followed by long-term retribution.
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The Lord's wrath will not be spared on the wicked, lest they repent.
Many will have to answer, eventually. Perhaps He spared us from a Clinton SCOTUS appointment, but that short-term gain may be followed by long-term retribution.
Not too many people think long range, myrle.
We clearly dodged a bullet in not being oppressed by Hillary, but we sacrificed every value we had to get there.
That's not a good idea in the end.
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We clearly dodged a bullet in not being oppressed by Hillary, but we sacrificed every value we had to get there.
What the hell do you mean, "WE", kemo sabi? :whistle:
You didn't sacrifice a thing. And you reminded all of us about that for over a year.
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Did Al Franken write that for her?
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What the hell do you mean, "WE", kemo sabi? :whistle:
You didn't sacrifice a thing. And you reminded all of us about that for over a year.
ML was too nice to say so, but she meant YOU sacrificed every principle to get there.
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ML was too nice to say so, but she meant YOU sacrificed every principle to get there.
I don't need you to tell me what she meant.
She makes a career here telling us EXACTLY what she 'means'. :laugh:
@musiclady
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I don't need you to tell me what she meant.
She makes a career here telling us EXACTLY what she 'means'. :laugh:
@musiclady
Well, other than my actual career which is being a college professor, yes..... I value honesty and being straightforward when I post here.
And I agree with sinkspur. It was the liberal/Democrat wing of the Republican party that sacrificed the honor of the party and the integrity of the process by nominating a man without values.
He may be President-elect, but he has no more honor today than he did when I fought against him during the Primary because he was/is a degenerate.
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ML was too nice to say so, but she meant YOU sacrificed every principle to get there.
It started way back when candidates were hanging around Iowa and Trump came out in favor of ethanol subsidies and an increased renewable fuels mandate (Cronyism). They started making excuses then and haven't stopped.
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It started way back when candidates were hanging around Iowa and Trump came out in favor of ethanol subsidies and an increased renewable fuels mandate (Cronyism). They started making excuses then and haven't stopped.
Yep. Between that and his glowing intent to use the EPA to enforce them, he went from a 'possible' to a 'nevermind' on my list. The more I saw, the more I knew I had made a correct assessment. However, the angry mob has spoken, and it is what it is. Funny, they are still angry, even after they won.
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It occurred to me after you wrote this post, @Blizzardnh that you were shamelessly trolling in order to entrap me (I should have seen it yesterday when you did it).
I posted my thoughts, legitimate and well considered..... all about Donald Trump, and the spiritual condition of America......nothing personal.
You brought me into it personally in order to bait me, because you knew the answer to your own baiting. That Trump had verbally claimed not to ask forgiveness for sin.
So when I stated a response to your baiting (silly me. I know you're a troll), you brought the axe down over my neck with your absolutely false and insane comparison of me.... a self-admitted, forgiven sinner, cleansed by the blood of the RESURRECTED Christ with not only a sinful Pharisee, but also a Sadducee, who does not even have the basic belief in Resurrection, let alone the Resurrection of my Savior, Jesus Christ.
What you did was shameful, and shameless, and shame on ME for falling into your trap of deceit.
The question is........ why are you still trolling and setting traps for non-Trump voters on this forum after you supposedly WON the election??
Oh no I've been caught. Spare me the dramatics .
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That's enough. Stop the back-and-forth sniping at one another.
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Oh no I've been caught.
Thanks for admitting the obvious! :seeya:
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He may be President-elect, but he has no more honor today than he did when I fought against him during the Primary because he was/is a degenerate.
In other words...Not My President. :pondering:
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Despite speaking out AGAINST the subsidies, all subsidies, Cruz won Iowa.
Guess the choice put the state in DT's favor.
He pandered all the way across the country. From the ridiculous Taco Bowl on downward it was painful to watch.
We had our chance in the primaries and we failed America.
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Despite speaking out AGAINST the subsidies, all subsidies, Cruz won Iowa.
Guess the choice put the state in DT's favor.
He pandered all the way across the country. From the ridiculous Taco Bowl on downward it was painful to watch.
We had our chance in the primaries and we failed America.
Ted Cruz is the one who failed. His strategy, like most of the other candidates, was to be the last one standing next to Trump. That allowed Trump to get away with saying whatever the heck he felt like saying...the more outrageous, the better.
Ted should have heeded the words of Ricky Bobby: if you ain't first, you're last.
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After reading this whole thead, I think people are getting it wrong. I think MB said that "a god" did this.
She was obviously referring to Loki.