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Title: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: Fishrrman on August 10, 2015, 07:13:10 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/10/teflon-don-trump-at-32-percent-in-new-post-debate-poll/

TEFLON DON: TRUMP AT 32 PERCENT IN NEW POST-DEBATE POLL
by Matthew Boyle
August 10, 2015

Republican frontrunner billionaire Donald Trump has jumped seven points—a remarkable hike in the polls—after the GOP debate in Cleveland, Ohio, last week and a subsequent spat with Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly.

The Morning Consult poll of 746 self-identified Republicans and GOP-leaning independents has Trump with a  commanding lead over the entire rest of the field at 32 percent. That means he leads the next three candidates—former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, Dr. Ben Carson and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker or Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)80%
—combined. Bush, who came in second, got only 11 percent. Carson came in third with 9 percent. Walker and Rubio tied with 6 percent each.

Trump’s 32 percent means he leads Bush, Carson and Walker—or Bush, Carson and Rubio, depending on which candidate tied for fourth place one considers actually in fourth—combined. His 32 percent is tied with Bush, Carson, Rubio and Walker combined.

Trump’s 32 percent is also up seven points over last week’s Morning Consult poll, which had him at 25 percent. The poll was conducted Aug. 7 through Aug. 9—Friday through Sunday—which means most of the polling was done not just after Trump’s debate performance in which he battled Fox News anchors seemingly determined to take him out but also after Friday evening comments about Kelly.

“You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever,” Trump said of Kelly during a Friday interview with CNN’s Don Lemon. Many of Trump’s competitors in the 2016 field—and Red State’s Erick Erickson, a Fox News Contributor who disinvited Trump from his weekend conference with various candidates and activists over it—took that to mean Trump was insinuating that Kelly was menstruating, but Trump later noted that he was talking about her nose.

“Trump’s support shows no evidence of slipping after he told a CNN anchor on Friday night that Kelly, one of three moderators overseeing the Fox News debate, had ‘blood coming out of her eyes. Blood coming out of her wherever,’” Morning Consult’s Reid Wilson wrote about the poll.

What’s more, Trump’s favorability ratings in this new poll skyrocketed.

“The share of Republican primary voters who say they view Trump favorably increased since the last tracking poll, to 62 percent from 57 percent,” Wilson wrote. “But the number of registered voters who say they see Trump unfavorably remains high — 52 percent of all voters say they see him in a negative light. That makes Trump both the most popular candidate within the Republican field and the least popular candidate Republicans could nominate for next year’s general election.”
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: truth_seeker on August 10, 2015, 07:28:20 pm
This is from Breitbart, which has allegedly agreed to be pro-Trump.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: bkepley on August 10, 2015, 07:40:55 pm
This is from Breitbart, which has allegedly agreed to be pro-Trump.

It seems to be true though.  A great many Republicans seem to like the Donald.  Maybe they want to win bad enough to nominate a celebrity?  He'd get clobbered by Hillary is my guess unless she really F's up.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: MBB1984 on August 10, 2015, 07:53:06 pm
It is amazing to me, how many hits Trump takes and then he becomes even stronger.  I believe the hatred for the media, including Fox, hatred for the established political class, and the yearning for a strong, almost arrogant leader is driving this force.  I have never seen anything like it in politics before.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: musiclady on August 10, 2015, 08:01:32 pm
Who knew that 32% of Republican primary voters were idiots?

We have such a deep bench with many stellar potential nominees, and 32% of our voters prefer the jerk?

There is NO hope for America if this poll is accurate......   **nononono*
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: Dexter on August 10, 2015, 08:04:11 pm
Who knew that 32% of Republican primary voters were idiots?

We have such a deep bench with many stellar potential nominees, and 32% of our voters prefer the jerk?

There is NO hope for America if this poll is accurate......   **nononono*

There is always hope.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: bkepley on August 10, 2015, 08:06:28 pm
Who knew that 32% of Republican primary voters were idiots?

We have such a deep bench with many stellar potential nominees, and 32% of our voters prefer the jerk?

There is NO hope for America if this poll is accurate......   **nononono*

They actually elected Arnold and Franken.  Most Americans really aren't very knowledgable about things.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: libertybele on August 10, 2015, 08:09:02 pm
Hannity just announced the NBC poll showing Trump at 23% and Cruz now in 2nd place at 13%, Carson at 11% and Fiorina and Rubio are now tied for 4th place.

I am astounded as I felt for sure that Trump's remarks about Kelly would sink him.  Obviously I was wrong and the majority has found more approval of Trump than those that disapproved of his remarks.  They obviously see more good in Trump than bad. With Cruz, Carson, and Fiorina placing above Bush it clearly reflects the utter disdain, and disgust for the GOPe.

I am not endorsing Trump and his comment on women by any means; and unfortunately, I still think there is a possibility that he will split the vote.

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/new-nbc-news-survey-monkey-poll-donald-trump-still-lead-n406766
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: DCPatriot on August 10, 2015, 08:43:33 pm
It seems to be true though.  A great many Republicans seem to like the Donald.  Maybe they want to win bad enough to nominate a celebrity?  He'd get clobbered by Hillary is my guess unless she really F's up.

Unless this truly is a setup...Hillary has very good reason to be terrified of Donald Trump in a one-on-one.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: Dexter on August 10, 2015, 08:48:10 pm
People like Donald Trump because he doesn't follow the rules. People are tired of copy/paste politicians that don't do anything to advance the causes they care about. It doesn't matter how stupid he is; they like him because he's not everybody else.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: Lando Lincoln on August 10, 2015, 08:50:24 pm
There is always hope.

He's in the White House.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: Longiron on August 10, 2015, 08:54:03 pm
It is amazing to me, how many hits Trump takes and then he becomes even stronger.  I believe the hatred for the media, including Fox, hatred for the established political class, and the yearning for a strong, almost arrogant leader is driving this force.  I have never seen anything like it in politics before.

Nailed it. Non Politician, straight talk, He did build that, Secure the border first and build the fence, Strong Military and the willingness to FIGHT to Win. All we need now is God and Apple Pie :patriot:
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: truth_seeker on August 10, 2015, 08:56:45 pm
People like Donald Trump because he doesn't follow the rules. People are tired of copy/paste politicians that don't do anything to advance the causes they care about. It doesn't matter how stupid he is; they like him because he's not everybody else.

Politics is morphing into entertainment. Gotta be fun, outlandish.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: Fishrrman on August 10, 2015, 09:07:29 pm
truth_seeker wrote above:
[[ Politics is morphing into entertainment ]]

Politics has ALWAYS been "entertainment".

Where ya been all these years....?
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: bkepley on August 10, 2015, 09:17:40 pm
Unless this truly is a setup...Hillary has very good reason to be terrified of Donald Trump in a one-on-one.

Her folks are locked up tight. They will never vote for him.  His, not so much.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: musiclady on August 10, 2015, 09:31:48 pm
There is always hope.

Not if the only choices for leader of the free world are a corrupt, mean socialist (Hillary) and an arrogant narcissist blowhard like Trump.

We have so many good choices.  32% of the Republican base has completely lost its collective mind if they think Trump is the best.


Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: musiclady on August 10, 2015, 09:33:14 pm
Nailed it. Non Politician, straight talk, He did build that, Secure the border first and build the fence, Strong Military and the willingness to FIGHT to Win. All we need now is God and Apple Pie :patriot:

Delusional..........  **nononono*
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: bkepley on August 10, 2015, 09:40:00 pm
Nailed it. Non Politician, straight talk, He did build that, Secure the border first and build the fence, Strong Military and the willingness to FIGHT to Win. All we need now is God and Apple Pie :patriot:

But don't pay to see the egress.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: NavyCanDo on August 10, 2015, 09:59:46 pm
Trump supporters will be the reason Hilary wins this election. The Clintons are measuring the curtains in the White House again, knowing that Donald Trump is Hilary Clinton’s insurance policy. And it’s working.

(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/Baseballdad2/Other/Trump%20clinton.png)
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: Longiron on August 10, 2015, 10:12:51 pm
Delusional..........  **nononono*

32 % ????      Talk about Delusinal????????????
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: bkepley on August 10, 2015, 10:15:08 pm
See next thread down in topics???? talk about Delusinal????????????

Those are questions?????????
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: Dexter on August 10, 2015, 10:15:43 pm
See next thread down in topics???? talk about Delusinal????????????

That's a lot of question marks. I think one or two would have sufficed.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: aligncare on August 10, 2015, 10:25:19 pm
Nearly every discussion on this board is about Trump. Even though most of our members despise him waiting for the shoe to drop. And he just keeps getting stronger. Very curious, indeed.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: bkepley on August 10, 2015, 10:30:25 pm
Nearly every discussion on this board is about Trump. Even though most of our members despise him waiting for the shoe to drop. And he just keeps getting stronger. Very curious, indeed.

Honestly to me he's a joke and I doubt I could pull the lever for him.  I hope if he wins GOP there is a decent third party such as a libertarian to vote for here in NC.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: NavyCanDo on August 10, 2015, 10:47:38 pm
Nearly every discussion on this board is about Trump. Even though most of our members despise him waiting for the shoe to drop. And he just keeps getting stronger. Very curious, indeed.

And just where is he getting stronger here?    Not that many days ago I was thinking they are going to have to rename this forum the TrumpetRoom. I seemed to be in a tiny minority of what one person labeled as "Trump Haters", and even calling us RINOs. The tide has very noticeably shifted - and it will even more as the debates continue. 
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: aligncare on August 10, 2015, 10:50:53 pm
And just where is he getting stronger here?    Not that many days ago I was thinking they are going to have to rename this forum the TrumpetRoom. I seemed to be in a tiny minority of what one person labeled as "Trump Haters", and even calling us RINOs. The tide has very noticeably shifted - and it will even more as the debates continue.

He's getting stronger in his poll numbers among Republicans.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: DCPatriot on August 10, 2015, 11:06:26 pm
Nearly every discussion on this board is about Trump. Even though most of our members despise him waiting for the shoe to drop. And he just keeps getting stronger. Very curious, indeed.

AC....

I'm having a problem.  It's uncanny...the voice I'm hearing.

It's like James Earl Jones in Star Wars....telling me to come over to the Dark Side.    :laugh:

Starting to get to me...."use the force, DC!"
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: Bigun on August 10, 2015, 11:14:48 pm
And just where is he getting stronger here?    Not that many days ago I was thinking they are going to have to rename this forum the TrumpetRoom. I seemed to be in a tiny minority of what one person labeled as "Trump Haters", and even calling us RINOs. The tide has very noticeably shifted - and it will even more as the debates continue.

And one little side not here that doesn't have anything to do with any particular candidate but is true never-the less.

For enough money you can get a poll that says anything you want it to say!
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: Lando Lincoln on August 10, 2015, 11:32:17 pm
In my days on this planet, Lord knows I have been wrong countless times. I doubt I will be here:

Trump's bubble will pop. His poll numbers will drop. Soon.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: bkepley on August 10, 2015, 11:35:12 pm
In my days on this planet, Lord knows I have been wrong countless times. I doubt I will be here:

Trump's bubble will pop. His poll numbers will drop. Soon.

Not so sure about the "soon".  Never overestimate the intelligence of the US voter.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: Lando Lincoln on August 10, 2015, 11:42:41 pm
Not so sure about the "soon".  Never overestimate the intelligence of the US voter.

I certainly won't underestimate their stupidity, either.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: truth_seeker on August 10, 2015, 11:44:10 pm
"Trump supporters will be the reason Hilary wins this election. The Clintons are measuring the curtains "

In spite of his current standing, I don't expect him to wind up being the nominee. He draws from the SAME folks that declare they will only vote for somebody MORE conservative than recent nominees.

So if they are good to their words, Trump fails to win the nomination, they sit out another. And your premise will turn out to be true, for an alternative reason.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: musiclady on August 11, 2015, 12:04:30 am
Nearly every discussion on this board is about Trump. Even though most of our members despise him waiting for the shoe to drop. And he just keeps getting stronger. Very curious, indeed.

I compare it with not being able to keep your eyes from staring at roadkill...................  :smokin:
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: musiclady on August 11, 2015, 12:05:26 am
In my days on this planet, Lord knows I have been wrong countless times. I doubt I will be here:

Trump's bubble will pop. His poll numbers will drop. Soon.

I think the appropriate phrase is:

"From your lips to God's ears."
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: musiclady on August 11, 2015, 12:08:56 am
32 % ????      Talk about Delusinal????????????

It was the part about "God and apple pie" that was delusional.

If you think egotism, arrogance, crudity, lewdness, meanness, and an uncontrolled temper have even the slightest connection with God, you are delusional.

The 32% reveals gross stupidity on the part of a segment of the Republican primary voters............. or perhaps a symptom of some raging fever.

If the Good LORD wills, the fever will break long before the votes are cast, and we won't be saddled with a loud-mouthed jerk in the WH.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: Dexter on August 11, 2015, 12:11:37 am
The 32% reveals gross stupidity on the part of a segment of the Republican primary voters

It's ignorance, not stupidity. I think the distinction is important.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: musiclady on August 11, 2015, 12:28:42 am
It's ignorance, not stupidity. I think the distinction is important.

Point well taken, but I think at least it is a mixture of both.

The Trump phenomenon is based on voter anger, so many are not completely ignorant of what's going on........ though some are...........but choosing to ride the wave of a non-conservative loud-mouth is a good part stupidity as well.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: DCPatriot on August 11, 2015, 12:41:00 am
Not once has Donald Trump given an uplifting statement about the potential of the American individual....like Reagan did ALL THE TIME!

It's always in generalities.

THAT bothers me.  It's time to hear specifics.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: musiclady on August 11, 2015, 12:49:17 am
Not once has Donald Trump given an uplifting statement about the potential of the American individual....like Reagan did ALL THE TIME!

It's always in generalities.

THAT bothers me.  It's time to hear specifics.

The problem is that he gets into deep trouble when he gets specific.

Like when he said he thought the Canadian single-payer health care system was working well...... oy!

He's only going to be able to ride the wave by being emotional and not intelligent.

Specifics require intelligent, well-thought-out plans, and as soon as he reveals what he REALLY believes in, he's going to lose most of the support he now has.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: raml on August 11, 2015, 12:51:21 am
My favorite is Cruz but I will wait till the republicans have a candidate before I even think about supporting anyone or any third party. I kinda like what is happening with Trump I think it is letting the gop leadership know how many of are disgusted with their do nothing Obama kissing party. I truly believe they are whats wrong with the United States. They are weak kneed, lobbyist sucking money grubbing ass holes that allow the democrats and socialists to succeed.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: bkepley on August 11, 2015, 01:02:22 am
My favorite is Cruz but I will wait till the republicans have a candidate before I even think about supporting anyone or any third party. I kinda like what is happening with Trump I think it is letting the gop leadership know how many of are disgusted with their do nothing Obama kissing party. I truly believe they are whats wrong with the United States. They are weak kneed, lobbyist sucking money grubbing ass holes that allow the democrats and socialists to succeed.

My problem with Cruz is very superficial...he just does not  impress me as a strong candidate and wait...wait..I'm sorry to say he has weird eyebrows and greasy hair.  It's no use trying to clobber me because as soon as I  push the return button I will refuse to defend what I've said.
So there.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: libertybele on August 11, 2015, 03:48:38 am
My problem with Cruz is very superficial...he just does not  impress me as a strong candidate and wait...wait..I'm sorry to say he has weird eyebrows and greasy hair.  It's no use trying to clobber me because as soon as I  push the return button I will refuse to defend what I've said.
So there.

Good grief.  Believe it or not there have been studies as to how "hair" affects the votes.  So with Trump it could go either way ... either people won't vote for him because of his hair or people will vote for him because of his ridiculous comb over.  With his money, I wonder why he's never gotten implants or a toupee?
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: Lando Lincoln on August 11, 2015, 11:02:35 am
My problem with Cruz is very superficial...he just does not  impress me as a strong candidate and wait...wait..I'm sorry to say he has weird eyebrows and greasy hair.  It's no use trying to clobber me because as soon as I  push the return button I will refuse to defend what I've said.
So there.

You know, in some ways I'm superficial and petty with the guy also.  His brain power is off the charts and he's a strong Constitutionalist.  But... he has that nasally voice and he appears to be a cartoonist's dream.

So now bk, let's get a beer and not defend ourselves together.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: libertybele on August 11, 2015, 11:07:34 am
With Cruz now in the #2 spot, it will be interesting to see how he and Trump now interact and will the moderators now give Cruz more time or will they continue to try to ignore him as was done in the last debate?
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on August 11, 2015, 11:39:29 am
You know, in some ways I'm superficial and petty with the guy also.  His brain power is off the charts and he's a strong Constitutionalist.  But... he has that nasally voice and he appears to be a cartoonist's dream.

So now bk, let's get a beer and not defend ourselves together.

I would have joined you in a superficial criticism of Cruz last week.  For months I have commented to my wife on the cheap suits Cruz has worn for the last 2 years.  Every time I saw him he had a jacket that was 2 sizes too big, but the night of the debate Cruz was wearing a suit that fit his body pretty well.  I'm not sure it was tailored, but it wasn't goofy looking.

The thing is the guy is a lawyer.  He's got the money to get a nice suit, but up until the debate he evidently never needed a good looking suit.  I just think that is kind of weird.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: libertybele on August 11, 2015, 11:49:07 am
I would have joined you in a superficial criticism of Cruz last week.  For months I have commented to my wife on the cheap suits Cruz has worn for the last 2 years.  Every time I saw him he had a jacket that was 2 sizes too big, but the night of the debate Cruz was wearing a suit that fit his body pretty well.  I'm not sure it was tailored, but it wasn't goofy looking.

The thing is the guy is a lawyer.  He's got the money to get a nice suit, but up until the debate he evidently never needed a good looking suit.  I just think that is kind of weird.

His "looks" further separates him from the RINO's and Washington Cartel.  So far it's working for him.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on August 11, 2015, 12:07:25 pm
His "looks" further separates him from the RINO's and Washington Cartel.  So far it's working for him.
Looks like Cruz is buying into the Cartel look now libertybele.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: musiclady on August 11, 2015, 01:34:11 pm
You know, in some ways I'm superficial and petty with the guy also.  His brain power is off the charts and he's a strong Constitutionalist.  But... he has that nasally voice and he appears to be a cartoonist's dream.

So now bk, let's get a beer and not defend ourselves together.

Pat Gray said it on Glenn Beck............... he sounds like Dana Carvey imitating George H.W. Bush on SNL.

"Wouldn't be prudent."

I LOVE The guy, but I laugh every time I hear his voice.  I will however, get over it because he's brilliant and a strong candidate, and if he gets the nomination, I'll put Dana out of my mind.  ^-^
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: Longiron on August 11, 2015, 07:13:29 pm
It was the part about "God and apple pie" that was delusional.

If you think egotism, arrogance, crudity, lewdness, meanness, and an uncontrolled temper have even the slightest connection with God, you are delusional.

The 32% reveals gross stupidity on the part of a segment of the Republican primary voters............. or perhaps a symptom of some raging fever.

If the Good LORD wills, the fever will break long before the votes are cast, and we won't be saddled with a loud-mouthed jerk in the WH.

Just what we need more McCains, Boehner and that king of crossing the aisle Mitch McConnell. I luv your standards??? None of the boys are loud mouthed jerks they just smile and Screw the people they despise and they are called Americans. Selling baby parts is ok but don't kill a Lion or they get upset. Drown and kill people in the Middle East but worry about someone tone of voice. BUT they are not loud mouth jerks. PRIORTIES! :bsflag:
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: bkepley on August 11, 2015, 07:18:26 pm
Just what we need more McCains, Boehner and that king of crossing the aisle Mitch McConnell. I luv your standards??? None of the boys are loud mouthed jerks they just smile and Screw the people they despise and they are called Americans. Selling baby parts is ok but don't kill a Lion or they get upset. Drown and kill people in the Middle East but worry about someone tone of voice. BUT they are not loud mouth jerks. PRIORTIES! :bsflag:

It seems to me that Trump is the more liberal of Trump, McConnell, McCain, and Boehner or at least that has been what he has always shown to be his political leanings.  Why are you such a sucker for him?  What's the point of electing another liberal Republican?
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: DCPatriot on August 11, 2015, 07:27:24 pm
IMO, these polls are BS.

One poll cited was comprised of 742 respondents of 'pre-college' age.

This is purely the democrat version of Rush's "Operation Chaos", where we voted in Democrat primaries.

Trump is being push up in the polls by mischief.   
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: musiclady on August 11, 2015, 07:28:27 pm
Just what we need more McCains, Boehner and that king of crossing the aisle Mitch McConnell. I luv your standards??? None of the boys are loud mouthed jerks they just smile and Screw the people they despise and they are called Americans. Selling baby parts is ok but don't kill a Lion or they get upset. Drown and kill people in the Middle East but worry about someone tone of voice. BUT they are not loud mouth jerks. PRIORTIES! :bsflag:

What in heaven's name are you even talking about??

You just make things up in your fevered imagination because of your love affair with a loud-mouthed jerk who is NOT A CONSERVATIVE!!

Sheesh!  This board is supposed to be rational.   Go back to TOS......
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: musiclady on August 11, 2015, 07:29:05 pm
IMO, these polls are BS.

One poll cited was comprised of 742 respondents of 'pre-college' age.

This is purely the democrat version of Rush's "Operation Chaos", where we voted in Democrat primaries.

Trump is being push up in the polls by mischief.

And is probably being freeped by Longiron.......  **nononono*
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: musiclady on August 11, 2015, 07:30:55 pm
It seems to me that Trump is the more liberal of Trump, McConnell, McCain, and Boehner or at least that has been what he has always shown to be his political leanings.  Why are you such a sucker for him?  What's the point of electing another liberal Republican?

Of COURSE, trump is a LIBERAL.

Of all the candidates running, he is probably the farthest LEFT of any of them.

I think it's time for me to ignore the troll.......
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: libertybele on August 11, 2015, 09:49:45 pm
I am watching CBS news on our local channel here in Florida and it is still showing Bush in 2nd place and absolutely NO mention of Cruz!
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: DCPatriot on August 12, 2015, 02:36:05 am
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Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: Godzilla on August 15, 2015, 11:27:58 pm
Breitbart is stumping for Trump.  There is another article in this section detailing that.

Additionally, other polling shows Trump at 23%.

Put the two pieces together. 

Breitbart stumps for Trump claiming a 32% rating.  If called on it, they can then claim it was a typo... and they meant to write 23%.

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Just my two cents on the matter.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: bkepley on August 15, 2015, 11:34:03 pm
Breitbart is stumping for Trump.  There is another article in this section detailing that.

Additionally, other polling shows Trump at 23%.

Put the two pieces together. 

Breitbart stumps for Trump claiming a 32% rating.  If called on it, they can then claim it was a typo... and they meant to write 23%.

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Just my two cents on the matter.

What a fall Breitbart has taken.  It's a desecration.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: libertybele on August 15, 2015, 11:50:55 pm
Who knew that 32% of Republican primary voters were idiots?

We have such a deep bench with many stellar potential nominees, and 32% of our voters prefer the jerk?

There is NO hope for America if this poll is accurate......   **nononono*

I would like to think of it as 32% of those polled and not 32% of the GOP voters. 
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: kevindavis007 on August 16, 2015, 02:05:07 am
Nailed it. Non Politician, straight talk, He did build that, Secure the border first and build the fence, Strong Military and the willingness to FIGHT to Win. All we need now is God and Apple Pie :patriot:


How is going to get Mexico pay for the wall???
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: olde north church on August 16, 2015, 02:07:40 am

How is going to get Mexico pay for the wall???

That's simple.  An exhorbitant fee on money transfers to Mexico and other Central American countries.  The Western Union things.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: olde north church on August 16, 2015, 02:11:47 am
That's simple.  An exhorbitant fee on money transfers to Mexico and other Central American countries.  The Western Union things.

Don't think it can't be done?  Try renting a car or motel/hotel room in NJ.  It's a "9/11" surtax and it's listed right on the bill.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: kevindavis007 on August 16, 2015, 10:57:30 am
That's simple.  An exhorbitant fee on money transfers to Mexico and other Central American countries.  The Western Union things.


How is it going to get through Congress???
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: DCPatriot on August 16, 2015, 11:14:40 am

How is it going to get through Congress???

With a pen and a phone!! 
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: EdinVA on August 16, 2015, 11:16:30 am

How is it going to get through Congress???

When has congress ever turned down a revenue enhancement?
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: kevindavis007 on August 16, 2015, 11:18:30 am
When has congress ever turned down a revenue enhancement?


If a Democrats is in Control yes they haven't turned it down...
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: kevindavis007 on August 16, 2015, 11:19:42 am
With a pen and a phone!!


So you want Trump to do things by Executive Action correct ??? Yet I bet you hate that Obama is doing things by Executive Action correct??
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: DCPatriot on August 16, 2015, 11:24:02 am

So you want Trump to do things by Executive Action correct ??? Yet I bet you hate that Obama is doing things by Executive Action correct??

That's right.   It's high time a Republican flips the bird to the Democratic members of the House and Senate.

See how they feel when a Republican sits behind that desk for the next eight years.

After how Obama has conducted himself, it's time for the RATS to pay the piper.  Pun intended.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: EdinVA on August 16, 2015, 11:38:45 am

If a Democrats is in Control yes they haven't turned it down...

Well the republicans have not turned down many either especially if they can "bring home the bacon".
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: EdinVA on August 16, 2015, 11:41:19 am
That's right.   It's high time a Republican flips the bird to the Democratic members of the House and Senate.

See how they feel when a Republican sits behind that desk for the next eight years.

After how Obama has conducted himself, it's time for the RATS to pay the piper.  Pun intended.

Agree. I do want congress given a shot but if something gets bogged down in BS, then by all means, executive order away.
It may be the only way to get us closer to where we need to be, to many liberal republicans in congress to ensure a "conservative" push.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: olde north church on August 16, 2015, 12:23:52 pm
Agree. I do want congress given a shot but if something gets bogged down in BS, then by all means, executive order away.
It may be the only way to get us closer to where we need to be, to many liberal republicans in congress to ensure a "conservative" push.

Sometimes an hour of swift kicks to the ass is worth a thousand hours of candy.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: EdinVA on August 16, 2015, 12:27:42 pm
Sometimes an hour of swift kicks to the ass is worth a thousand hours of candy.

And just where would you find anyone willing to administer said Swift Kicks...  :whistle:
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: olde north church on August 16, 2015, 12:44:14 pm
And just where would you find anyone willing to administer said Swift Kicks...  :whistle:

From my read of the situation there's about one who is willing to do it but perhaps we should spend another 100 years "educating" people about conservatism.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: kevindavis007 on August 16, 2015, 01:39:31 pm
Agree. I do want congress given a shot but if something gets bogged down in BS, then by all means, executive order away.
It may be the only way to get us closer to where we need to be, to many liberal republicans in congress to ensure a "conservative" push.


Sorry I happen to be quite fond of the Constitution.. But hey if you are find with a President raising taxes via Executive Action then don't complain about Obama using Executive Action for anything..
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: EdinVA on August 16, 2015, 01:49:19 pm

Sorry I happen to be quite fond of the Constitution.. But hey if you are find with a President raising taxes via Executive Action then don't complain about Obama using Executive Action for anything..

Well, if you have ANY expectation that a McConnell/Boehner led congress is going to support a "conservative" push, then you live in a different world than I do.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: DCPatriot on August 16, 2015, 01:56:24 pm

Sorry I happen to be quite fond of the Constitution.. But hey if you are find with a President raising taxes via Executive Action then don't complain about Obama using Executive Action for anything..

First, nobody's going to raise taxes by EO.

Secondly, why do you have a problem with 'payback' on Democrats' style of governing?  Give them a taste of what we've been eating.

Thirdly, look at the bright side.   Look at all the Congressman and Senators that get plausible deniability by a 'Prez Trump' EO?  And the ones that show any backbone by fighting Trump will put themselves in focus as part of the problem.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: bkepley on August 16, 2015, 01:59:23 pm
Well, if you have ANY expectation that a McConnell/Boehner led congress is going to support a "conservative" push, then you live in a different world than I do.

Yes they will support a conservative push as they have within the confines of a split government.  If the exec supports it and they have all three branches I'm certain there would be howls from the MSM over the changes that are passed.  It's a big if though.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: olde north church on August 16, 2015, 02:02:15 pm
Well, if you have ANY expectation that a McConnell/Boehner led congress is going to support a "conservative" push, then you live in a different world than I do.

They have cornered the market on blazing the trail through the path of least resistance.  Compare and contrast Speaker Pelosi, Majority Leader Reid and President Obama.  What?  What?  They don't have that control?  They did not too long ago and pissed it away like beer through a Private.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: Longiron on August 16, 2015, 05:23:21 pm
It seems to be true though.  A great many Republicans seem to like the Donald.  Maybe they want to win bad enough to nominate a celebrity?  He'd get clobbered by Hillary is my guess unless she really F's up.

Can Hillary F up any more than she is now???? They call TRUMP TeflonDon? What is HILLARY called ?. Read Bill needs to have another BIMBO attack so people will fill sorry again for HILLARY?? Megan might be just that person??. PUBBIES do not care if they win or not? What they care about is that NO Conservative gets in there and NO competitive party. Republicans will be very happy with Hillary or Uncle Joe in the WH. Pretend to be disappointed but live to fight another day. Their WORLD does not change very little with Hillary or Joe B. IF TRUMP, CRUZ get the POTUS it is all over for them and they know it. This includes the media, Fox , pundits "etc". The only one that wins in their view is the American People and cannot have that.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: bkepley on August 16, 2015, 05:29:31 pm
Can Hillary F up any more than she is now???? They call TRUMP Telfon Don? What is HILLARY called ?. Read Bill needs to have another BIMBO attack so people will fill sorry again for HILLARY?? Megan might be just that person??. PUBBIES do not care if they win or not? What they care about is that NO Conservative gets in there and NO competitive party. Republicans will be very happy with Hillary or Uncle Joe in the WH. Pretend to be disappointed but live to fight another day. Their WORLD does not change very little with Hillary or Joe B. IF TRUMP, CRUZ get the POTUS it is all over for them and they know it. This includes the media, Fox , pundits "etc". The only one that wins in their view is the American People and cannot have that.

You dug that up froma week ago and since that time it appearz she has indeed F'd up enough to have to withdrawl but now the question is why do we need the unknown quantity Trump?  I'm pretty sure Cruz can handle Bernie, Biden or Gore.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: Godzilla on August 16, 2015, 06:01:08 pm
That's right.   It's high time a Republican flips the bird to the Democratic members of the House and Senate.

See how they feel when a Republican sits behind that desk for the next eight years.

After how Obama has conducted himself, it's time for the RATS to pay the piper.  Pun intended.

So... You never despised Obama for his actions, just the fact it was a Democrat doing it and not a Republican.

I've been saying for the last 12 years that the bulk of the Republican party is not made of conservatives, but what I call 'anti-liberals'.

Anti-liberals being the same as a liberal, just with their political polarity reversed.  They have no problem with the size or scope of government... nor the behavior of politicians.  They just want *THEIR* poiticians to be the one doing it.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: truth_seeker on August 16, 2015, 06:12:40 pm
So... You never despised Obama for his actions, just the fact it was a Democrat doing it and not a Republican.

I've been saying for the last 12 years that the bulk of the Republican party is not made of conservatives, but what I call 'anti-liberals'.

Anti-liberals being the same as a liberal, just with their political polarity reversed.  They have no problem with the size or scope of government... nor the behavior of politicians.  They just want *THEIR* poiticians to be the one doing it.
There sure seems to be a strong tendency in that direction. If it is "our guy" on top, whatever he says goes.

If the Donald says it loudly, and he says everything loudly which is why we like him, then let it be so. Whatever it is.

I just wonder what they will say at fresno.com when the Donald says "he loves homosexuals," etc.

At that point will some of the eager followers push back from the table where they swill up every morsel, and say "now just wait a darn minute."
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: bkepley on August 16, 2015, 06:17:44 pm
There sure seems to be a strong tendency in that direction. If it is "our guy" on top, whatever he says goes.

If the Donald says it loudly, and he says everything loudly which is why we like him, then let it be so. Whatever it is.

I just wonder what they will say at fresno.com when the Donald says "he loves homosexuals," etc.

At that point will some of the eager followers push back from the table where they swill up every morsel, and say "now just wait a darn minute."

No they won't push back.  They are too deeply invested. Besides they are still drooling at the prospect of massive deportation of Mexican illegals.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: DCPatriot on August 16, 2015, 06:18:57 pm

So... You never despised Obama for his actions, just the fact it was a Democrat doing it and not a Republican.


No sir!  Never said that!   I deplore a president that doesn't acknowledge the individual rights and duties of the THREE branches of government.

But, I've been forced to sit in the corner...bend over and take this crap, going on 8 years...with nary a peep from the MSM and/or the damned Republican party leadership.

As the saying goes, "Payback is a b*tch!"


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I've been saying for the last 12 years that the bulk of the Republican party is not made of conservatives, but what I call 'anti-liberals'.

Anti-liberals being the same as a liberal, just with their political polarity reversed.  They have no problem with the size or scope of government... nor the behavior of politicians.  They just want *THEIR* poiticians to be the one doing it.

Godzilla, your definition of 'anti-liberals' in context with Conservatives needs work.   A LOT of work.

I just want to hear Pelosi and Reid piss and moan.  On a daily basis.

I want to hear Chuck Todd and Chris Matthers and Mika cry and wail.   
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: Longiron on August 16, 2015, 06:50:48 pm
You dug that up froma week ago and since that time it appearz she has indeed F'd up enough to have to withdrawl but now the question is why do we need the unknown quantity Trump?  I'm pretty sure Cruz can handle Bernie, Biden or Gore.

Agree with CRUZ. Actually think he would make a great POTUS. However, if TRUMP was not in the race the RINOGOP, FOX, Pundits, Media would have taken CRUZ out by now, bet on it. He still needs their resourses as time goes on. Ther RINOGOP hates CRUZ more than TRUMP but TRUMP is making it easier for the REAL conservatives like CRUZ, Caron to get there message out. The Party of Stupid is focusing on TRUMP and leaving the others basically alone and they get stronger each DAY. The RINOGOP is not use to FIGHTING on anything like the LIBS fight  and TRUMP fight back and they cannot control him.  TRUMP does not need them and both CRUZ and CARSON do if either would get to the general. If TRUMP is the candidate you will see CRUZ or CARSON in his cabinet along with John Bolton, Allen West and Sara Palin. Also, Scott Walker will be their some place if he wants to be in Fed Govt other than POTUS. Don't be surprised if you do not se a TRUMP/Cruz ticket???  :patriot:
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: kevindavis007 on August 16, 2015, 07:42:37 pm
http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/09/2012-flashback-donald-trump-said-gop-was-too-mean-spirited-towards-illegal-immigrants/
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: libertybele on August 16, 2015, 08:52:11 pm
Agree with CRUZ. Actually think he would make a great POTUS. However, if TRUMP was not in the race the RINOGOP, FOX, Pundits, Media would have taken CRUZ out by now, bet on it. He still needs their resourses as time goes on. Ther RINOGOP hates CRUZ more than TRUMP but TRUMP is making it easier for the REAL conservatives like CRUZ, Caron to get there message out. The Party of Stupid is focusing on TRUMP and leaving the others basically alone and they get stronger each DAY. The RINOGOP is not use to FIGHTING on anything like the LIBS fight  and TRUMP fight back and they cannot control him.  TRUMP does not need them and both CRUZ and CARSON do if either would get to the general. If TRUMP is the candidate you will see CRUZ or CARSON in his cabinet along with John Bolton, Allen West and Sara Palin. Also, Scott Walker will be their some place if he wants to be in Fed Govt other than POTUS. Don't be surprised if you do not se a TRUMP/Cruz ticket???  :patriot:

Exactly.  I have said it several times; Trump is taking the heat off and keeping the heat off Cruz.  Trump is doing a great service right now to all of the GOP candidates.  Yes indeed; Cruz is a huge thorn in the RINOGOP's side and they hate him. Without Trump you would have seen Bush rapidly rising in the polls.  Notice how Trump jumped in immediately after Bush?  It is becoming apparent to me, Trump's timing was perfect.

There is nothing substantial other than logic and opinion indicating that Trump would pick Cruz as VP.  I would love to see Cruz go all the way and get the GOP nomination.  We have a lot of time between now and the primaries; a lot could happen.

I think there are several other scenarios; Trump continues to rise and picks someone other than Cruz to be his VP.  Trump could jump out of the race just before the primaries after forcing out the RINOGOP candidates leaving voters Cruz, Fiorina, Walker or Carson or he completely slaps everyone in the face and runs 3rd party.
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: olde north church on August 16, 2015, 09:41:01 pm
Exactly.  I have said it several times; Trump is taking the heat off and keeping the heat off Cruz.  Trump is doing a great service right now to all of the GOP candidates.  Yes indeed; Cruz is a huge thorn in the RINOGOP's side and they hate him. Without Trump you would have seen Bush rapidly rising in the polls.  Notice how Trump jumped in immediately after Bush?  It is becoming apparent to me, Trump's timing was perfect.

There is nothing substantial other than logic and opinion indicating that Trump would pick Cruz as VP.  I would love to see Cruz go all the way and get the GOP nomination.  We have a lot of time between now and the primaries; a lot could happen.

I think there are several other scenarios; Trump continues to rise and picks someone other than Cruz to be his VP.  Trump could jump out of the race just before the primaries after forcing out the RINOGOP candidates leaving voters Cruz, Fiorina, Walker or Carson or he completely slaps everyone in the face and runs 3rd party.

Can't you hear the sound of thousands of white shoed marching feet, boys?  That's the Establishment.  That's their money Trump is ending. 
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: bkepley on August 16, 2015, 09:47:09 pm
Can't you hear the sound of thousands of white shoed marching feet, boys?  That's the Establishment.  That's their money Trump is ending.

Here he comes to save the day!!!!
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: Longiron on August 16, 2015, 11:16:21 pm
Exactly.  I have said it several times; Trump is taking the heat off and keeping the heat off Cruz.  Trump is doing a great service right now to all of the GOP candidates.  Yes indeed; Cruz is a huge thorn in the RINOGOP's side and they hate him. Without Trump you would have seen Bush rapidly rising in the polls.  Notice how Trump jumped in immediately after Bush?  It is becoming apparent to me, Trump's timing was perfect.

There is nothing substantial other than logic and opinion indicating that Trump would pick Cruz as VP.  I would love to see Cruz go all the way and get the GOP nomination.  We have a lot of time between now and the primaries; a lot could happen.

I think there are several other scenarios; Trump continues to rise and picks someone other than Cruz to be his VP.  Trump could jump out of the race just before the primaries after forcing out the RINOGOP candidates leaving voters Cruz, Fiorina, Walker or Carson or he completely slaps everyone in the face and runs 3rd party.


Good points and would luv to see a Trump/ Cruz ticket . Cruz could and would learn a lot from Trump and really be positioned to take over. Also like a Cruz/ Walker, Carson ticket. Anything but Bushie, Carly, Christie, Kasich or any other RINO in the batters box.


Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: bkepley on August 16, 2015, 11:29:24 pm

Good points and would luv to see a Trump/ Cruz ticket . Cruz could and would learn a lot from Trump and really be positioned to take over. Also like a Cruz/ Walker, Carson ticket. Anything but Bushie, Carly, Christie, Kasich or any other RINO in the batters box.

YEAH...CRUZ CAN LEARN MUCH FROM TRUMP AND WITH TRUMPS HELP WE WILL BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF EVRYONE ELSE, PUT AN END TO THE RINOGOP AND THEIR FOLLWERS AND AFTER THAT BY GOD WHO KNOWS WHAT IS NEXT BUT IT IS SURELY BY GOD BETTER SOMEHOW THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW SO NUFF SAID AND BY THE WAY ??????????
Title: Re: Trump At 32% In New Post-Debate Poll
Post by: EC on August 16, 2015, 11:33:37 pm
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