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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2025, 05:20:09 pm »
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« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2025, 05:21:16 pm »
Buh buh, we gotta vote for hur, she's a Democrat!

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« Reply #52 on: January 08, 2025, 05:23:20 pm »


The Great Lakes have a healthy population of smelt. Why on earth would California prioritize them over the safety and well-being of people and property?
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #53 on: January 08, 2025, 05:24:09 pm »
California Gov. Gavin Newsom's LA wildfire 'photo op' sparks fury - as critics point out damning detail: Live updates
By GERMANIA RODRIGUEZ POLEO, CHIEF U.S. REPORTER and MELISSA KOENIG and BRITTANY CHAIN FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

Published: 17:11 EST, 7 January 2025 | Updated: 12:14 EST, 8 January 2025
 
California governor Gavin Newsom was slammed after sharing a clip that showed him with his hands in his pockets as he reviewed the Los Angeles wildfires.

Officials said on Wednesday morning that the files have left at least two dead, as well as many 'significant injuries.'

The wildfires are rapidly spreading across Los Angeles today with firefighters conceding they remain powerless to contain the flames while because of strong winds.

 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14260647/pacific-palisades-fire-live-updates-los-angeles-california-evacuations.html
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #54 on: January 08, 2025, 05:25:40 pm »
 Harris’s California neighborhood ordered to evacuate as wildfires blaze through area
by Sarah Fortinsky - 01/08/25 11:20 AM ET

Vice President Harris’s neighborhood in Los Angeles was ordered to evacuate Tuesday night as wildfires blazed through the area, her spokesperson said Wednesday.

“Last night, the Vice President’s neighborhood in Los Angeles was put under an evacuation order. No one was in her home at the time,” spokesperson Ernie Apreza said on social platform X.

“She and the Second Gentleman are praying for the safety of their fellow Californians, the heroic first responders, and Secret Service personnel,” Apreza added.

Harris, a lifelong Californian who served as the state’s U.S. senator and attorney general, said in a statement Tuesday that she was briefed about the state of the wildfires and would continue to be updated regularly “about these damaging wildfires and the coordinated efforts to contain them.”

“I am also urging residents in the affected areas to listen to local officials, remain vigilant, and evacuate immediately if told to do so,” Harris continued in her statement Tuesday evening.

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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #55 on: January 08, 2025, 05:26:19 pm »
Why aren't Bass and Newsom demanding illegal immigrants donate their time and energies to help out? :whistle:
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« Reply #56 on: January 08, 2025, 05:27:29 pm »
The Great Lakes have a healthy population of smelt. Why on earth would California prioritize them over the safety and well-being of people and property?
It allows them to drive farmers and property owners out of the Central Valley by restricting water, and then buying the land cheap to resell to the CA "high speed" rail authority at an increased premium.  :shrug:
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« Reply #57 on: January 08, 2025, 05:32:13 pm »
Californians Drag LA’s Democrat Mayor For Attending African Inauguration While Her City Goes Up In Flames
By: Shawn Fleetwood
January 08, 2025
 
Los Angeles Democrat Mayor Karen Bass is taking heat for attending a presidential inauguration in Africa while her city’s residents endured massive fires.

While thousands of L.A. locals were fleeing their homes due to the destructive wildfires engulfing the region, Bass was busy attending the Tuesday inauguration of Ghana President John Dramani Mahama. The White House announced on Friday that the California Democrat would attend the event as part of its presidential delegation.


Bass served on the House Committee on Foreign Affairs as chair of the Subcommittee on Africa, Global Health, Global Human Rights and International Organizations prior to becoming mayor of Los Angeles.

While reportedly expected to return to the U.S. on Wednesday, Bass’s absence amid the disaster plaguing her constituents quickly generated outrage from local Californians.

https://thefederalist.com/2025/01/08/californians-drag-las-democrat-mayor-for-attending-african-inauguration-while-her-city-goes-up-in-flames/
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #58 on: January 08, 2025, 05:33:53 pm »
This is what the people who voted for her wanted or they wouldn't have voted for her.  They have no right to bitch now. **nononono*
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #59 on: January 08, 2025, 05:34:07 pm »
California Rules Caused Insurance Companies to Cancel Policies Before Wildfires

Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) and the Democrat-run government of California caused insurance companies to cancel many of their fire insurance policies — with many residents of Pacific Palisades losing their policies just before the wildfires.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/01/08/california-rules-caused-insurance-companies-to-cancel-policies-before-wildfires/
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #60 on: January 08, 2025, 05:48:12 pm »
The Great Lakes have a healthy population of smelt. Why on earth would California prioritize them over the safety and well-being of people and property?
Because the Protected Species Act enacted by Congress and signed into law by Nixon has been twisted to mean ALL species or subspecies of a genre MUST be protected at all costs.

Undoubtedly, the smelt inhabiting California has been designated as a subspecies to that of the Great Lakes so it has its own status of protection as interpreted under the Act.

The ACT leaves prioritization of humans secondary, and has limited economic justification of efforts toward practicality of effort, so common sense is thrown out the window by the Deep State in pursuing an expansion of the Act's purposes.
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« Reply #61 on: January 08, 2025, 05:56:49 pm »
Bass knew weeks ago when this trip was set up this fire would happen? I would have voted against her if I lived in the Land of LA, and voted for Snoopy D. Beagle if her opponent were equally Prog, but this "dragging" for what she could not foreknow is not rational.
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« Reply #62 on: January 08, 2025, 06:00:15 pm »
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
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« Reply #65 on: January 08, 2025, 06:37:55 pm »
Only a complete idiot would have that as a goal instead of the goal of fire mitigation and control as #1

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well even without DEI the democrats have been priming California for fires like this with their dangerous polices and the mayor of LA didn’t have the reservoirs that feed the hydrants refilled and cut the FD budget by $20 million. I can’t wait for the screaming from the liberal ‘celebrities’ over losing their homes and possessions because of the insane polices they endorsed.

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« Reply #66 on: January 08, 2025, 06:45:00 pm »
well even without DEI the democrats have been priming California for fires like this with their dangerous polices and the mayor of LA didn’t have the reservoirs that feed the hydrants refilled and cut the FD budget by $20 million. I can’t wait for the screaming from the liberal ‘celebrities’ over losing their homes and possessions because of the insane polices they endorsed.
The celebs are learning that stupid should hurt and they're going to be whining when people mock them much like they mocked others who lost everything simply because they lived in a "red" state. Karma? Schadenfreude? But this won't change anything in a meaningful way. Some may regret their decisions, but by and large, the majority will continue as they always have. Bass will get re-elected or another useless dem mouth-breather will take her place, the rat machine will make sure of it.
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #67 on: January 08, 2025, 06:57:32 pm »
Breitbart editor (who lives in the Pacific Palisades area) writes:

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A brief, factual thread about the POLICY issues around the Palisades fire. I will stick to what I know personally. I am covering for @BreitbartNews and available to help @FoxNews, @MSNBC, or anyone needing information and ideas, including the incoming Trump administration. (1/9)
1:34 PM · Jan 8, 2025

FOREST MANAGEMENT: This is an issue in California generally, but I will say in this IMMEDIATE area I have personally witnessed brush clearance on the trails in the mountains where the fire began. Any hurricane-force wind pushing a fire will be destructive, despite clearance (2/9)

RESERVOIRS: The Santa Ynez Reservoir near the fire outbreak was empty as of Sunday (I was up there). There are 10,000-gal water tanks in the Temescal Canyon for hydrants; don't know if they were full. After outbreak, I doubt whether water could have stopped the blaze anyway (3/9)

WATER: California generally does a terrible job of water management. L.A. (reclamation) and esp. San Diego (desalination) do better with new methods. I don't know if it's practical to divert surface water for firefighting, as some have suggested. But more supply is needed. (4/9)

PLANNING: Shockingly bad. The Highlands, near the fire, is an area with only one road in and out -- that's the road where people abandoned their cars and ran. There are erosion-prone hillsides with big developments that, to me, don't make sense. Rebuilding must change this. (5/9)

EMERGENCY RESPONSE: With greatest respect to those protecting us at great risk there were not enough police to direct traffic and fire authorities could have called evacuation sooner. Blame elected leaders who cut police budget in 2020 (BLM), and fire budget more recently. (6/9)

PUBLIC BEHAVIOR: Residents rose to the challenge; not one death in Palisades (yet). But outsiders have been shooting fireworks in our neighborhood for years, smoking pot in the dry mountains, etc. California has little public education about fire (as I've noted for years). (7/9)

FIRE INSURANCE: Democrats used socialist price controls to cap rates; the result is a shortage of insurance as companies leave or cancel policies. This was discussed on local Nextdoor in Dec. New "forced coverage" regs will make the problem worse. Need creative solutions. (8/9)

POLITICS: Mayor Karen Bass was in Ghana for no good reason. Governor Gavin Newsom thanked her for literally phoning it in. Our (effectively) one-party system fails to provide public accountability. Developer Rick Caruso (who lost to Bass) saved his mall. Only thing standing (9/9)
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A couple of years ago, insurance companies put in the necessary requests to the state of California to raise their rates. They were denied. So most of them pulled out of CA. It has been extremely difficult, if not impossible, to get house ins here since then.
Many of these now destroyed houses may be uninsured because CA wouldn’t let the companies raise rates to compensate for past fires, etc.
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« Reply #68 on: January 08, 2025, 07:14:19 pm »
The celebs are learning that stupid should hurt and they're going to be whining when people mock them much like they mocked others who lost everything simply because they lived in a "red" state. Karma? Schadenfreude? But this won't change anything in a meaningful way. Some may regret their decisions, but by and large, the majority will continue as they always have. Bass will get re-elected or another useless dem mouth-breather will take her place, the rat machine will make sure of it.

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« Reply #69 on: January 08, 2025, 07:14:19 pm »
Yes, certain leftists already are blaming Trump for this, apparently unaware he hasn't held office in nearly four years. But here are some facts:

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While CA's water management is a big issue, it is also true that these fires typically start on federal land.
Guess whose administration canceled crucial controlled burns this fall so they wouldn't look bad if something went wrong?
That would be Joseph Robinette Biden.
11:21 AM · Jan 8, 2025

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During Donald Trump's first term, he tried to increase water diversions on federal land to help California's water supply.
The State of California and various environmental groups sued him and won.
Once again, owning the orange man took priority over protecting people.
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #70 on: January 08, 2025, 07:15:21 pm »
California Rules Caused Insurance Companies to Cancel Policies Before Wildfires

Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) and the Democrat-run government of California caused insurance companies to cancel many of their fire insurance policies — with many residents of Pacific Palisades losing their policies just before the wildfires.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/01/08/california-rules-caused-insurance-companies-to-cancel-policies-before-wildfires/

This is a statewide thing, causing problems for, probably, hundreds of thousands of home owners. Several insurance companies have ceased offering homeowners policies and have declined to renew or cancelled existing policies. In Ayn-Rand-ian terms, they have shrugged.

Now the predictable consequences - a large disaster was going to happen, only the timing and location was uncertain - have hit. Look for Dems and their MSM-shill mouthpieces to rail against greedy insurance companies to avoid admitting their stupid regs brought on the crisis.
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« Reply #71 on: January 08, 2025, 07:22:17 pm »
Because the Protected Species Act enacted by Congress and signed into law by Nixon has been twisted to mean ALL species or subspecies of a genre MUST be protected at all costs.

Undoubtedly, the smelt inhabiting California has been designated as a subspecies to that of the Great Lakes so it has its own status of protection as interpreted under the Act.

The ACT leaves prioritization of humans secondary, and has limited economic justification of efforts toward practicality of effort, so common sense is thrown out the window by the Deep State in pursuing an expansion of the Act's purposes.

The Enviros and envirocrats have proliferated sub-sub-sub-sub-...-sub-species in order to burden property and business owners via the ESA. The effects range from property owners being unable to create firebreaks around homes, to housing developments having to set aside swaths of undeveloped land for a protected butterfly (Santa Rosa area, 1990s), to courts forcing the release of water from reservoirs on the Sacramento River system during drought years (for the Delta smelt).
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I am not and never have been a leftist.

If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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« Reply #73 on: January 08, 2025, 07:50:50 pm »
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WATER: California generally does a terrible job of water management. ...

In the real world, all but one of California's major reservoirs is at or above historical average. The one that is not is just a little below historical average. Despite lacking a major river, such as the Mississippi, Missouri, Colorado, Ohio, or Rio Grande, flowing through CA, Lake Shasta is among the US' largest reservoirs (CA's largest, Lake Shasta, is on the Sacramento River; the river is entirely within northern CA, i.e. not a particularly large river). On a micro level, the water district in which I live, which is just part of Santa Clara County, has about a dozen reservoirs plus chains of percolation ponds along a couple of creeks to refresh and manage two aquifers, which store more water than all the reservoirs combined.

Pollak may know what's happening in his corner of the Land of LA, but I doubt he could find, e.g., the rather small Lake Natomas and the Nimbus Dam without searching on GoogMaps. I also wonder if he learned of the existence of Lake Oroville (CA's second largest reservoir) in 2017 when heavy rains and poor maintenance led to the possibility of the dam collapsing.

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I wonder if the cause of the Pacific Palisades Fire is the campfire of the Sacred Homeless or an arsonist.
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I am not and never have been a leftist.

If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

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« Reply #74 on: January 08, 2025, 07:57:11 pm »

https://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/1877073955170791758

I was watching this on Fox..I really don't think Pops knew where he was....
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