Will Trump win NY?

[corbe]

   Trump, a lifelong resident of NY. 
   Can he honestly expect to pull Queens and Brooklyn out of the hat in conjunction with the rest of the Red State of NY and carry the 28 EV's?

[libertybele]

The GOP truly sucks, but so does most of Congress.

IF the Bronx rally is any indication, I think Trump could win NY -- that is provided that NY's election is w/o fraud which is unlikely.

[Kamaji]

Trump won't win NY.  That rally may have seemed impressive, but it was only 30k people or so, and NYC has millions of eligible voters, most of them democrat (or further left).

[libertybele]

Trump won't win NY.  That rally may have seemed impressive, but it was only 30k people or so, and NYC has millions of eligible voters, most of them democrat (or further left).

That may be but 30,000 for an outdoor rally is still impressive in an impoverished neighborhood. The demographics of the Bronx is appx. 56% Hispanic and 28% African-American.

Regardless, that rally was reported on by major networks which they've failed to focus on in the past so Trump made people stand up and take notice. 

The message couldn't have been more clear at his really (it is worth watching) -- Trump is for the Hispanic and the Black people.  Biden can't make that claim; in fact he demonstrates otherwise and has made racist comments about them.

[corbe]

   He may conceivably take the Bronx, Queens and Brooklyn BUT he'll never take Manhattan (the place that borne him his Fame), which draws the common conclusion that he'll never take NY 28.

[Cyber Liberty]

I don't know if Trump can pull off a win in NY, but Biden may have to spend more money than he expected to.

[corbe]

   Next ya know, he'll be headin to California.

[LMAO]

Trump is for the Hispanic and the Black people. 

In what way?

[LMAO]

   He may conceivably take the Bronx, Queens and Brooklyn BUT he'll never take Manhattan (the place that borne him his Fame), which draws the common conclusion that he'll never take NY 28.

I wouldn't even bet the Bronx. That's in AOC's district along with parts of Queens, I believe

[libertybele]

   Next ya know, he'll be headin to California.

Hills, that is. Swimmin pools, movie stars.

[libertybele]

In what way?

Under Trump we had the lowest unemployment for both Blacks and Hispanics in history.  There's something to be said for that.  In particular for the Blacks, he made an attempt and IIRC hired someone to go through some of the prison records of Blacks incarcerated for petty crappola and he pardoned some of them.

Under President Trump's leadership, new jobs and investment are pouring into nearly 9,000 newly-designated Opportunity Zones, home to more than 9 million Hispanic Americans. In 2018, a net 362,000 Hispanics achieved the dream of homeownership—the largest such gain since 2005.

Whether I agree or not with the 'Opportunity Zones', both Hispanics and Blacks prospered under Trump.

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trumps-america-first-policies-uplifting-empowering-hispanic-americans/

[DCPatriot]

Under Trump we had the lowest unemployment for both Blacks and Hispanics in history.  There's something to be said for that.  In particular for the Blacks, he made an attempt and IIRC hired someone to go through some of the prison records of Blacks incarcerated for petty crappola and he pardoned some of them.

Under President Trump's leadership, new jobs and investment are pouring into nearly 9,000 newly-designated Opportunity Zones, home to more than 9 million Hispanic Americans. In 2018, a net 362,000 Hispanics achieved the dream of homeownership—the largest such gain since 2005.

Whether I agree or not with the 'Opportunity Zones', both Hispanics and Blacks prospered under Trump.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/how-trump-grew-his-support-among-latinos/617033/

President Trump's intent was to prove that a rising tide floats ALL boats.  White one, Black ones, Brown and Yellow ones!

In the end he proved to the minorities that they indeed had "...nothing to lose by voting for him".

[libertybele]

President Trump's intent was to prove that a rising tide floats ALL boats.  White one, Black ones, Brown and Yellow ones!

In the end he proved to the minorities that they indeed had "...nothing to lose by voting for him".

On that we agree @DCPatriot 

[LMAO]

Under Trump we had the lowest unemployment for both Blacks and Hispanics in history. 

Nope

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000006

[Wingnut]

Trump is being held against his will in NY.  So why not go to the Bronx  I actually watched a lot of his rally.  Dude was on fire for 90 minutes.  The only thing that Biden can do for 90 min is to try to work up a solid bm.  The bacon line was point on. 

[Smokin Joe]

Do you mean before the fraud is applied or when the Democrats quit counting ballots in January?

[Kamaji]

That may be but 30,000 for an outdoor rally is still impressive in an impoverished neighborhood. The demographics of the Bronx is appx. 56% Hispanic and 28% African-American.

Regardless, that rally was reported on by major networks which they've failed to focus on in the past so Trump made people stand up and take notice. 

The message couldn't have been more clear at his really (it is worth watching) -- Trump is for the Hispanic and the Black people.  Biden can't make that claim; in fact he demonstrates otherwise and has made racist comments about them.

Shrug.  Trump won’t win NY.  There’s much more support for Trump upstate, always has been, but the fascists who vote in NYC outweigh all the others.  Trump won’t win NY. 

[Cyber Liberty]

Shrug.  Trump won’t win NY.  There’s much more support for Trump upstate, always has been, but the fascists who vote in NYC outweigh all the others.  Trump won’t win NY.

That's what I think.  But...the Biden crew may decide they better start spending on Ad buys in a very expensive media market.

[Kamaji]

That's what I think.  But...the Biden crew may decide they better start spending on Ad buys in a very expensive media market.

If we can get them to spend money there, that’d be great; but let’s be honest with ourselves: the goal is to make them waste scarce resources that could do damage if spent in other states. 

[Cyber Liberty]

If we can get them to spend money there, that’d be great; but let’s be honest with ourselves: the goal is to make them waste scarce resources that could do damage if spent in other states.

That's correct.

[Drago]

He will win a majority of (upstate) counties, but like Calif. the majority of the pop. lives in the minority of counties (NYC). Even most of Long Island is semi-red/pink.

[cato potatoe]

Trump lost his home state by 24 points.  My guess is Biden will carry it by 15% or more.  It isn’t necessarily a bad idea to campaign there, because of the house races.  But understand a candidate Trump was toxic in the northeast, and that has not changed to any large degree.  Biden is sitting on high 30s approval in New Hampshire, but he likely will carry the state anyway. 

[DCPatriot]

With all due respect, you are all so out of touch, it's like you've been in a coma these past few years.

"IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID!!!" ...James Carville

[LMAO]

With all due respect /s ...you are all so out of touch, it's like you've been in a coma these past few years.

"IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID!!!" ...James Carville

It’s the debt and the size of government that’s the problem. That’s the biggest threat to the economy.

Trump helped massively pile that on, even before the pandemic, and wants to do even more if re elected.  From an economic and fiscal standpoint, he’s more similar to Biden and Obama. The facts and history back it. For example, more jobs were created  in Obama’s  last three years than Trump’s first three years. And despite his promise, not one year during the Trump presidency did we hit GDP of 3% or greater. And all of that, despite trillions of more debt added. And his first trade war caused harm to the economy and he wants another and more damaging one should he win


https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2021/05/20/trumps-tariffs-were-much-more-damaging-than-thought/?sh=fe52e1765bdb



There’s the Trump record and reality and then there’s the Trump that his supporters create in their minds. You want to bring the Trump/Biden  inflation rate down to a tolerable rate? Stop the trillion dollar deficits and the printing required to finance them. Trump wants a weaker dollar and he wants lower interest rates. Both would punish consumers and savers, especially in an inflationary economy


This is Bernie Sanders type trade, fiscal, and monetary policies. I wouldn’t vote for Sanders because of that. And as long as Trump adopts and runs on Sander lite policies, my same rule applies

[DCPatriot]

It’s the debt and the size of government that’s the problem. That’s the biggest threat to the economy.

Trump helped massively pile that on, even before the pandemic, and wants to do even more if re elected.  From an economic and fiscal standpoint, he’s more similar to Biden and Obama. The facts and history back it. For example, more jobs were created  in Obama’s  last three years than Trump’s first three years. And despite his promise, not one year during the Trump presidency did we hit GDP of 3% or greater. And all of that, despite trillions of more debt added. And his first trade war caused harm to the economy and he wants another and more damaging one should he win


https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2021/05/20/trumps-tariffs-were-much-more-damaging-than-thought/?sh=fe52e1765bdb



There’s the Trump record and reality and then there’s the Trump that his supporters create in their minds. You want to bring the Trump/Biden  inflation rate down to a tolerable rate? Stop the trillion dollar deficits and the printing required to finance them. Trump wants a weaker dollar and he wants lower interest rates. Both would punish consumers and savers, especially in an inflationary economy


This is Bernie Sanders type trade, fiscal, and monetary policies. I wouldn’t vote for Sanders because of that. And as long as Trump adopts and runs on Sander lite policies, my same rule applies

Thank you for the information/opinion @LMAO

The entire point of the thread isn't about the cause of the deficits.

It's about who the common vote will NOT accept more of the same rising costs of soup to nuts bullshit we've been living with since 2021.