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Offline Elderberry

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Is Israel Responsible for Gaza?
« on: May 18, 2024, 11:37:07 am »
Powerline 5/17/2024

The Biden Administration insists that Israel must have a plan for the “day after” it completes its victory over Hamas. A reasonable question is: why? Gaza started this war on October 7, and Israel responded as it had to, as any nation would, by fighting and, now, winning the war. Why should it be Israel’s burden to try to make something constructive out of the sickest culture in the world?

Daniel Greenfield argues that it isn’t Israel’s responsibility, and reviews the troubled history of nation-building. Please do read the whole thing; here are some excerpts:

    Rafah isn’t just the last stand for Hamas, but for an entire foreign policy establishment.
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    By the time that Hamas had captured Gaza after winning democratic elections, it had long been clear to everyone outside of D.C. that rather than ending terrorism, statehood had incarnated it.

    Any ‘Palestinian’ state was doomed to be a terrorist state. The only question is who would run it. And the answer was that the biggest and deadliest terrorists would command popular support.

    When Iraq and Afghanistan went bad, America could just leave, Israelis did not have that luxury. Sharon forcibly expelled the Jews living in Gaza to the other side of a border wall, but despite all the sob stories that the terrorists were living in an “open air concentration camp” with five-star hotels and mansions, walls weren’t that hard to get through even before Oct 7.

    Israel has been stuck living next door to a failed thirty year nation-building experiment gone bad. And everyone in the international community is worried that the Oct 7 war will see it taken apart.

More: https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/05/is-israel-responsible-for-gaza.php

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Re: Is Israel Responsible for Gaza?
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2024, 09:09:21 pm »
Maybe LIEden's nation-building experts should give advice. wink777  yogi555
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Re: Is Israel Responsible for Gaza?
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Re: Is Israel Responsible for Gaza?
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2024, 03:07:57 am »
To build a structure, you need wood or brick or stone or concrete.
To build a nation, you need people.
A nation cannot be built with savages.

In the years following 1945, Germany and Japan were rebuilt because,
in both cases, the people had been civilized for centuries.
Gaza cannot be "re"built because Palestinians have NEVER been civilized!

In the book of Joshua, God told Israel to exterminate the vermin
and populate the land themselves.
There was no attempt to civilize the savages,
because that task would have been completely impossible.

Today's Palestinians have been calling for the land to be "cleansed of the savages".
They should be careful what they wish for.  They just might get it.
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Re: Is Israel Responsible for Gaza?
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2024, 02:54:44 pm »
Modern Palis are Arabs. Not the Philistines Israel fought during the periods of the judges and the kings. Not the Canaanites Israel was instructed to wipe out.
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Re: Is Israel Responsible for Gaza?
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2024, 08:27:35 pm »
Modern Palis are Arabs. Not the Philistines Israel fought during the periods of the judges and the kings. Not the Canaanites Israel was instructed to wipe out.

I did some research.  What I found was that
the Philistines were conquered and deported by Assyria
at the same time the Northern Kingdom of Israel was also conquered.
(That was when Hezekiah was king of Judah.)

The Philistine population was dispersed among other nations,
which was part of Assyria's plan to dissolve the national identity
of every nation they conquered.
(The leftists are also using that same strategy against America
by encouraging massive illegal immigration.)

Today, the Philistines' descendants are mixed among the Arabs,
who today continue practicing atrocities similar to the Philistines.
Like female genital mutilation, and forcing nine year old girls to marry,
which are widespread throughout the Islamic world.
If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion,
mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.
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Here are the 10 RINOs who voted to impeach Trump on Jan. 13, 2021 - NEVER forget!
WY  Liz Cheney      SC 7  Tom Rice             WA 4  Dan Newhouse    IL 16  Adam Kinzinger    OH 16  Anthony Gonzalez
MI 6  Fred Upton    WA 3  Jaime Herrera Beutler    MI 3  Peter Meijer       NY 24  John Katko       CA 21  David Valadao