Johnson: Greene not ‘proving to be’ a serious lawmaker

[kevindavis007]

So what's been accomplished in its place @kevindavis007

Aid to the country that you hate Ukraine since the country that you like Russia (which I never liked that hores**t country) invaded the country that you hate.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Aid to the country that you hate Ukraine since the country that you like Russia (which I never liked that hores**t country) invaded the country that you hate.

Giving away the taxpayer dollars --- to any foreign country --- that we need to spend on securing our own sovereignty is not an accomplishment @kevindavis007     It's insanity.

Learn the difference.

[kevindavis007]

Giving away the taxpayer dollars --- to any foreign country --- that we need to spend on securing our own sovereignty is not an accomplishment @kevindavis007     It's insanity.

Learn the difference.

No, it's not. I called helping our ALLIES! Sorry, we tried isolationism in the 1930s and it failed.  You American first people crack me up.  There was a bipartisan bill in Congress, but no we have to wait until the election so I guess the border isn't a mess..

[Right_in_Virginia]

No, it's not. I called helping our ALLIES!

Yes, giving away money borrowed on the backs of OUR grandchildren we desperately need to protect OUR sovereignty is insanity.

[kevindavis007]

Yes, giving away money borrowed on the backs of OUR grandchildren we desperately need to protect OUR sovereignty is insanity.

Sorry but you support a guy who is not known to show fiscal restraint

[LMAO]

Sorry but you support a guy who is not known to show fiscal restraint

Understatement of the year

I can understand the fiscal argument. But to have a Trumper worrying about saddling  our grandkids with debt rings hollow

[kevindavis007]

Understatement of the year

I can understand the fiscal argument. But to have a Trumper worrying about saddling  our grandkids with debt rings hollow

I see it this way, if Russia wins our grandkids are going to fight Russia and China.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

I see it this way, if Russia wins our grandkids are going to fight Russia and China.

Exactly.

The Europeans may lean left but they are not expansionistic.  The MAGA idea that we should lean towards Russia because they are nationalists rather than globalists ignores that distinction.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Sorry but you support a guy who is not known to show fiscal restraint

Great.point!

MAGA tells us how unimportant fiscal discipline is, and that it is old-fashioned of us to care about it anymore.

Except when it comes to aiding Ukraine, though.  Then suddenly, MAGA becomes all about out of control spending , fiscal cliffs, etc, .  And I'm not taking about consistent budget hawks like some folks here, Rand Paul, etc.  I'm referring specifically to the MAGA crowd that dismisses, and even mocks, our concerns about Trump's spending.

Maybe MAGA's opposition to helping Ukraine is really about something other than fiscal discipline.  Oh hell, I don't think there's much of a maybe about.  It's what I've thought pretty much since that war began.  Even where it is isn't pro-Russia sentiment, it's definitely anti-Ukraine.

[LMAO]

Great.point!

MAGA tells us how unimportant fiscal discipline is, and that it is old-fashioned of us to care about it anymore.

Except when it comes to aiding Ukraine, though.  Then suddenly, MAGA becomes all about out of control spending , fiscal cliffs, etc, .  And I'm not taking about consistent budget hawks like some folks here, Rand Paul, etc.  I'm referring specifically to the MAGA crowd that dismisses, and even mocks, our concerns about Trump's spending.

Maybe MAGA's opposition to helping Ukraine is really about something other than fiscal discipline.  Oh hell, I don't think there's much of a maybe about.  It's what I've thought pretty much since that war began.  Even where it is isn't pro-Russia sentiment, it's definitely anti-Ukraine.

@Maj. Bill Martin


And this is probably applicable to MTG


If she was opposing aid to Ukraine based on true fiscal concerns, she could be taken more seriously


I suspect this is more of an opposition to Biden on her part with some Putin admiration . I’ll wager that, should Trump win, she’ll sign on to every bizarre and costly spending proposal from him and promote and back his inflationary and economic threatening policies and threaten any House Republicans that are in disagreement

[kevindavis007]

Great.point!

MAGA tells us how unimportant fiscal discipline is, and that it is old-fashioned of us to care about it anymore.

Except when it comes to aiding Ukraine, though.  Then suddenly, MAGA becomes all about out of control spending , fiscal cliffs, etc, .  And I'm not taking about consistent budget hawks like some folks here, Rand Paul, etc.  I'm referring specifically to the MAGA crowd that dismisses, and even mocks, our concerns about Trump's spending.

Maybe MAGA's opposition to helping Ukraine is really about something other than fiscal discipline.  Oh hell, I don't think there's much of a maybe about.  It's what I've thought pretty much since that war began.  Even where it is isn't pro-Russia sentiment, it's definitely anti-Ukraine.

It has to do with that Trump hates Ukraine. If Trump supported Ukraine, MAGA would be in full support.

[kevindavis007]

@Maj. Bill Martin


And this is probably applicable to MTG


If she was opposing aid to Ukraine based on true fiscal concerns, she could be taken more seriously


I suspect this is more of an opposition to Biden on her part with some Putin admiration . I’ll wager that, should Trump win, she’ll sign on to every bizarre and costly spending proposal from him and promote and back his inflationary and economic threatening policies and threaten any House Republicans that are in disagreement

I think that is what it boils down to, the fact that Joe Biden supports Ukraine.  Sorry, but I happen to agree with Biden on this issue. Correction, I'm not sorry.


You are right, MTG will support Trump's runaway spending and it was Trump's runaway spending that got us into this mess in the first place.

[DB]

Trump hates Ukraine because Zelenskyy didn't give him evidence against Biden like he asked for.

The primary problem was, Biden was already President and Zelenskyy very badly needed arms from the US.

So, it was either provide Trump with the evidence of Biden's activities there or get supplied arms from the Biden administration.

There was only one choice for Zelenskyy, get arms from the US to push back the Russian invader.

[kevindavis007]

Trump hates Ukraine because Zelenskyy didn't give him evidence against Biden like he asked for.

The primary problem was, Biden was already President and Zelenskyy very badly needed arms from the US.

So, it was either provide Trump with the evidence of Biden's activities there or get supplied arms from the Biden administration.

There was only one choice for Zelenskyy, get arms from the US to push back the Russian invader.

So basically if a country doesn't comply with Trump they don't get any support from this country?


Not a sound foreign policy