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Time to Rethink Your Never Trumpism.. Kurt Schlichter
« on: April 11, 2024, 03:07:57 pm »
Time to Rethink Your Never Trumpism
Kurt Schlichter


Okay, my Trump-shy friends, it’s time to put aside your fussy principles about how icky Donald Trump is. This is serious, and we need all hands on deck to throw Biden overboard before he gets a whole lot more Americans killed. I get that you don’t like Trump. Let’s agree that he’s icky for the purposes of this discussion. Let’s agree that his tweets are mean, that he’s not a conservative ideologue, that he says dumb things and gets into useless fights, and that he does many other unseemly and annoying things. Let’s agree that this is all true. Let’s concede that in normal times, one might want to forgo supporting a guy like that. But these aren’t normal times.

This is getting real. This is life and death. Not just for cops and soldiers, but maybe even for you and your family.

Now, this column isn’t directed towards the professional Never Trumper dorks, the treacherous weirdos who make a living off of going on MSNBC and selling out their former allies. This is for the Republicans who have thought about it and have a real problem with Donald Trump. I get it, even if I don’t agree. I would not particularly like voting for somebody who I don’t like. However, I like Donald Trump and will eagerly support him following his victory over my primary candidate, Ron DeSantis. But sometimes you need to do things you would rather not do. You have to let go of the anger. Even the governor got on board and endorsed the president once the primary results became clear.

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Re: Time to Rethink Your Never Trumpism.. Kurt Schlichter
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2024, 03:17:03 pm »
This writer is clueless
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Re: Time to Rethink Your Never Trumpism.. Kurt Schlichter
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2024, 03:22:55 pm »
   Regardless if the poison or the stabbing kill you, you're still DEAD.
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Re: Time to Rethink Your Never Trumpism.. Kurt Schlichter
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2024, 03:35:59 pm »
No.

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Re: Time to Rethink Your Never Trumpism.. Kurt Schlichter
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2024, 03:44:27 pm »
Nope.

A Biden second-term Presidency with a Republican or split Congress is more manageable and tolerable.

A second-term Tangerine Musolini Presidency, with Stephen Miller's Project 2025, is the end of the American experiment.

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Re: Time to Rethink Your Never Trumpism.. Kurt Schlichter
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2024, 09:08:11 pm »
This writer is clueless

'fussy principles'... That's as far as I needed to go...  :whistle:

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Re: Time to Rethink Your Never Trumpism.. Kurt Schlichter
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2024, 09:15:07 pm »
The fix is already in anyways.
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Re: Time to Rethink Your Never Trumpism.. Kurt Schlichter
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2024, 09:26:11 pm »
I've heard the "if you don't vote for Trump, you're voting for Biden" spiel enough times to vomit.  9999hair out0000
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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2024, 09:28:15 pm »
This writer is clueless

Nope!  @LMAO   It's time to look in your bathroom mirror if you want to see "clueless".  Take your principles and shove it!  We've got a Republic to save.
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Re: Time to Rethink Your Never Trumpism.. Kurt Schlichter
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2024, 09:28:33 pm »
I've heard the "if you don't vote for Trump, you're voting for Biden" spiel enough times to vomit.  9999hair out0000
People should vote for the candidate they think is the best possible choice regardless of party.
Don't listen to people like Schlichter. Vote your conscience.

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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2024, 09:31:59 pm »
Nope!  @LMAO   It's time to look in your bathroom mirror if you want to see "clueless".  Take your principles and shove it!  We've got a Republic to save.

The writer is clueless. And it isn’t just about principles but policy. And why should people give up their principles just because you demand it?

The writer believes that Republicans who are choosing not to vote for Trump are doing it as part of an emotional exercise

But, and as your post proves, many people voting FOR Trump are the ones doing it as part of an emotional exercise



Believing you’re “saving the Republic” by voting for Trump may be thrilling and give you purpose. But all you’re really doing is simply voting for a candidate you personally support. That’s it
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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2024, 09:35:33 pm »
The writer is clueless. And it isn’t just about principles but policy.

The writer believes that Republicans who are choosing not to vote for Trump are doing it as part of an emotional exercise

But, and as your post proves, many people voting FOR Trump are the ones doing it as part of an emotional exercise

Let's see... go back to 2016 or continue down this path to anarchy and Communism?   :pondering:

You're damned right it's an emotional exercise, Sir! 
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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2024, 10:37:09 pm »
Let's see... go back to 2016 or continue down this path to anarchy and Communism?   :pondering:

You're damned right it's an emotional exercise, Sir!

Then, as someone said upthread, vote your conscience

But you don’t get to dictate how others vote or tell others to sacrifice their values just to appease you
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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2024, 10:45:17 pm »
Then, as someone said upthread, vote your conscience

But you don’t get to dictate how others vote or tell others to sacrifice their values just to appease you

I'm not.  Vote as you wish.

Ignore reality.  But face the consequences of ignoring reality.   :shrug:
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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2024, 11:32:25 pm »
I'm not.  Vote as you wish.

Ignore reality.  But face the consequences of ignoring reality.   :shrug:
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I believe you are correct in this matter.

I don't understand the visceral Trump-hatred that emanates from otherwise sensible people; especially those who ought to know just how dangerous and dire is our current state.

Another Biden term, as managed and directed by the Marxist-Leninist radicals who are using him as their puppet -will be the end of our Republic.

With Trump, flaws and all - we might have a chance. For me, that's a chance worth taking.
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« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2024, 11:36:52 pm »
@DCPatriot

I believe you are correct in this matter.

I don't understand the visceral Trump-hatred that emanates from otherwise sensible people; especially those who ought to know just how dangerous and dire is our current state.

Another Biden term, as managed and directed by the Marxist-Leninist radicals who are using him as their puppet -will be the end of our Republic.

With Trump, flaws and all - we might have a chance. For me, that's a chance worth taking.

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« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2024, 11:44:37 pm »
   Conservatives disdain Trump the same way Christians disdain Swaggert and Baker.  A false prophet for our cause.
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« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2024, 11:51:21 pm »
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From the perspective of someone who won't vote for Trump, on thing that concerns me about him is that there is nobody to stand in his way when he starts advancing big government ideas.  At least with Biden, you'll get Republicans in Congress who will try to minimize the damage he does simply because they are the opposition.  But with Trump, it'll be just like it was during the pandemic.  The fact that he's at least nominally a Republican -- and one with a fair amount of die-hard support in Congress -- means that there won't be conservative opposition to him.  I'm guessing a Democrat President who would have tried some of what Trump did during Covid would have been blisteringly attacked by a lot of Republicans.  But because it was Trump, most Republicans didn't oppose him strongly, if at all.

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« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2024, 12:02:54 am »
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I believe you are correct in this matter.

I do not.

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I don't understand the visceral Trump-hatred that emanates from otherwise sensible people; especially those who ought to know just how dangerous and dire is our current state.

Another Biden term, as managed and directed by the Marxist-Leninist radicals who are using him as their puppet -will be the end of our Republic.

With Trump, flaws and all - we might have a chance. For me, that's a chance worth taking.

I do not think that's true. I believe the greater threat to be letting liberalism into the Right - Which there is no denying is part and parcel with the likes of Romney and Tumpy.

THAT is the dire circumstance. As once the Right discards the principles which it has sworn to defend there will be no one to defend them at all, and all is lost - We will certainly sink into the mire of socialism and tyranny not far behind.

A simple look at history will confirm it - That is how communists win. And y'all are letting them.

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« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2024, 12:04:30 am »
   Conservatives disdain Trump the same way Christians disdain Swaggert and Baker.  A false prophet for our cause.

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« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2024, 12:10:57 am »
@DCPatriot

I believe you are correct in this matter.

I don't understand the visceral Trump-hatred that emanates from otherwise sensible people; especially those who ought to know just how dangerous and dire is our current state.

Another Biden term, as managed and directed by the Marxist-Leninist radicals who are using him as their puppet -will be the end of our Republic.

With Trump, flaws and all - we might have a chance. For me, that's a chance worth taking.

Tell that to all the school kids are far behind their grade level because the schools were shut down. Tell that to all the people who's businesses were destroyed because of the shut down. Tell that to all the people with health problems due to "operation warp speed". Tell that to all the people that were denied time tested low cost drugs that were affective because they were banned. All to pave the way operation warp speed. That was all policy driven from the executive branch of government. It was his job to know better and at a minimum be guided by the limits of the constitution.

More damage was done to liberty and the displacement of our constitution under Trump than anyone in the last 30+ years. Biden is awful. Trump is no better.
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« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2024, 12:12:35 am »
@andy58-in-nh @DCPatriot

From the perspective of someone who won't vote for Trump, on thing that concerns me about him is that there is nobody to stand in his way when he starts advancing big government ideas.  At least with Biden, you'll get Republicans in Congress who will try to minimize the damage he does simply because they are the opposition.  But with Trump, it'll be just like it was during the pandemic.  The fact that he's at least nominally a Republican -- and one with a fair amount of die-hard support in Congress -- means that there won't be conservative opposition to him.  I'm guessing a Democrat President who would have tried some of what Trump did during Covid would have been blisteringly attacked by a lot of Republicans.  But because it was Trump, most Republicans didn't oppose him strongly, if at all.

The history of electoral politics in the US strongly suggest that if Joe Biden wins a second term, he will have a Democrat House at the very least, and perhaps a small Republican Senate majority - neither of which will be inclined or able to derail the Progressive agenda. In recent times, even when in the majority, Republicans have been unable to advance a Constitutionalist agenda or to halt the schemes of their adversaries, and even less so when a Democrat serves as President and the entire Executive Branch is likewise dominated by those who seek to radically transform America into a tool of the Progressive, globalist elites.
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« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2024, 12:15:15 am »
Never mind an incompetent fool was elected president because people were so done with Trump. Let's just do that all over again as if it is some sort of twisted justice... Never mind the Republic.

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« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2024, 12:20:41 am »
@andy58-in-nh @DCPatriot

From the perspective of someone who won't vote for Trump, on thing that concerns me about him is that there is nobody to stand in his way when he starts advancing big government ideas.  At least with Biden, you'll get Republicans in Congress who will try to minimize the damage he does simply because they are the opposition.


Wait!!  What??  You're confusing me @Maj. Bill Martin

What Republicans have stood in Biden's way these past 3-1/2 years? 

On the other side of your point...what Republicans supported President Trump's call to build the wall on the Southern Border?  He was stabbed in the back by Republicans in the West Wing.  The renegade Intelligence agencies ran amok with no interference by the GOP.

Finally, @AllThatJazzZ suggested on the Members Only thread that the Right needs unity, which your ally @roamer_1 blew another gasket and completely derailed the thread...which was supposed to be about a 13 year old seasoned post by JR.

You guys appear desperate throwing contrarian arguments against the wall.  You seem absolutely terrified of a Trump presidency but not the least bit concerned with a Biden 2nd term.

Just what the hell is going on here?  (rhetorical question)   :shrug:


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But with Trump, it'll be just like it was during the pandemic.  The fact that he's at least nominally a Republican -- and one with a fair amount of die-hard support in Congress -- means that there won't be conservative opposition to him.  I'm guessing a Democrat President who would have tried some of what Trump did during Covid would have been blisteringly attacked by a lot of Republicans.  But because it was Trump, most Republicans didn't oppose him strongly, if at all.


??  They impeached him...TWICE...once over a freaking phone call to Ukraine, where he had the goods on Biden dead to rights!

Why should the Republicans oppose President Trump, when the media...Hollywood...and the Democrats do it 24/7/365.

Finally, he's going to be a Lame Duck right from Day 1.
I hope he goes bat shit crazy on his enemies in Washington. And especially the mainstream media who are nothing but a propaganda wing of the Left.
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« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2024, 12:22:23 am »
In recent times, even when in the majority, Republicans have been unable to advance a Constitutionalist agenda or to halt the schemes of their adversaries

No. 'unwilling' is not 'unable'. There is a difference.