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Poll: Majority of Democrats Oppose Certification of 2024 Election If Donald Trump Wins

Wendell Husebø 11 Mar 2024

Fifty-seven percent of Democrat voters would oppose Congress certifying the 2024 election if former President Donald Trump wins, a Rasmussen Reports poll found Monday.

The poll asked likely voters: “Some Democrats in Congress have said that if Trump wins this year’s election, they will vote against certifying the election results because of Trump’s role in the January 6, 2021, Capitol riots. Do you support or oppose Democrats refusing to certify the election results if Trump wins?”

    57 percent of Democrats would oppose certification.
    Nearly two-thirds of “liberals” said they would oppose certification.

However, Democrats do not form the majority of voters’ opinions:

    Overall, only 35 percent of all voters would support opposing certifying Trump’s victory.
    55 percent would oppose lawmakers refusing to certify a Trump victory.

The poll sampled 912 likely voters from March 5-7 with a 3 point margin of error.

In August 2023 a grand jury indicted Trump on four counts related to January 6. The counts include:

    “Conspiracy to Defraud the United States”
    “Conspiracy to Obstruct an Official Proceeding”
    “Obstruction of and Attempt to Obstruct an Official Proceeding”
    “Conspiracy Against Rights”

The penalty for the alleged offenses is up to 55 years in prison. Trump “does not face the possibility of the death penalty because the indictment did not include the ‘special findings’ necessary to seek that sentence,” a Department of Justice spokesperson told Reuters.

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/03/11/poll-majority-democrats-oppose-certification-2024-election-if-donald-trump-wins/
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I guess insurrection on applies to Republicans when trying to disrupt certifying an electioon.
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Still don't have an answer to a definitive answer to what happens if Trump isn't certified.

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Still don't have an answer to a definitive answer to what happens if Trump isn't certified.

There won't be a definitive answer unless/until it actually happens, but my guess is that it ends up in the Supreme Court, and Trump would rightly win there.  The Constitution doesn't assign to Congress any authority other than counting certified Elector votes.

Congress's power to exclude a candidate under the 14th because of "insurrection" must be by "appropriate legislation", not just an ad hoc rejection of certified Electoral votes.
« Last Edit: March 11, 2024, 06:01:16 pm by Maj. Bill Martin »

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This is an almost guaranteed Trump win, even if GOP loses the House, due to the way the state delegations work. So another whiff for Democrats.

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