Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out

[Lando Lincoln]

Does anyone find it at least a bit curious that 4 members replied to this poll by saying they will vote Biden?  Would they reveal themselves it could be an interesting conversation.

[AllThatJazzZ]

Who here is “whacking” you?

We’re in the midst of a presidential campaign were the stakes have never been higher. And not just the fiscal and economic end but also the cultural. I never thought I would ever see the day in this country we are  actually debating that a man can menstruate and become pregnant and that kids as young as elementary school age should be sexualized. Chris Hansen owes a lot of predators an apology.

It is entirely fair and proper to look at both candidates records and proposals, and evaluate them not on the intentions,  but on the results and potential consequences. Naturally, it is expected that it’s going to get heated as there are differences even amongst conservatives on what path to take.

You are correct that some of the points do tend to  get repeated. But I guess that’s the nature of a political forum.

@LMAO

I guess that's right if you allow it to be the nature. There's another board where I post. It's not even 1/4 as contentious. We do take time out to have some fun with palate cleansing threads that mean nothing in the political/cultural world. Just a way to blow off steam and not allow resentments to build up. Also, many of us have been together for several years, so there's a sense of camaraderie on the board that helps us keep things in perspective. And one more thing on the plus side -- most of the participants are people of strong faith.

Having been part of boards that were fraught with incessant flame wars, I'm just too old to fall into that again. I don't have the energy for it. And even if I did, I can't do it because it just goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and... 




 

[AllThatJazzZ]

Does anyone find it at least a bit curious that 4 members replied to this poll by saying they will vote Biden?  Would they reveal themselves it could be an interesting conversation.

@Lando Lincoln

I think someone said that the voting was open to guests, so it could be leftist lurkers who voted for him.

[LMAO]

@AllThatJazzZ

By the way, have I told you I like your screen name? How did you come up with it? Jazz fan?

[libertybele]

All this talk of NT's, MAGA's, populists, etc. ... and this forum being boring ... please....

At the end of the day, we as anti-liberals, anti-Biden voters, we ALL as Briefers have the same agenda in mind -- kicking as many liberals out of the WH as possible.

The problem remains how to do that.  We have choices; vote Trump, vote Biden, vote 3rd party or vote down ballot.

Whatever the decision, everyone needs to vote their conscience. 

We as a country may not survive this election -- I just wish we could have all come together when Brandon first took office and figured out how to proceed forward. Then was the time to come together.  Debating is one thing, but point fingers, calling names, and getting down on one another accomplishes nothing but continues to divide us!

Things have gone from really bad when Cruz was Trump's conservative sacrificial lamb, to DeSantis being Trump's conservative sacrificial lamb to Trump himself being the sacrificial lamb of those who don't walk-step with Biden.  He's been chewed up and spit out and he's still hanging on.  They want him gone and they want him gone BIGLY.  Why?  Because they know given the knowledge that he obtained during his presidency and the support that he continues to have, and the DEMS crushing this country, IF he miraculously is seated, he's going to chew up a few liberals and spit them out.

I am confident that given another 4 years under DEM rule we will NOT have a Republic left .... then as I stated before, I'm not so sure we're going to make it till November.

Am I endorsing Trump?  Am I going to vote for him?  Right now, a lot of things can happen.  One thing I do know for certain is that I will vote my conscience period.

[Hoodat]

I've been in this position before. Only then I was getting whacked to death by Trumpers. Then I got the ZOT. How ironic that I'm getting whacked to death by NTs! I'm amused at life's little ironies!

Who is whacking you, @AllThatJazzZ ?

[Right_in_Virginia]

Conservatives DO fight. Conservatives DO change hearts and minds.

Conservatives lecture --- in the most off-putting ways possible.

Pro-tip:  People ignore the books you insist they read to fully understand the complexities of conservative philosophy they intrinsically know and call common sense ----- and turn away from conservatives as they do any blowhard.  You win no heart, no mind, no vote.

Unfortunately, so do idiot populists chasing after shiny shit. This has always been the case. Pinocchio is a good example from before this era.

MAGA supporters are fighting for freedom, limited government influence, the rule of law as enshrined in the US Constitution, the American legacy and inheritance, the inalienable right to live a life surrounded by God, country and family without intrusion by overlords ----- and you call this "shiny shit".

The Founding Fathers and original Minutemen are a good examples from before this era ----- MAGA is from their political bloodline.  These are the people you call "idiots".

[Smokin Joe]

That is a very bright spot - and light once uncovered, springs to every corner in the room. I too take great solace from this action, which seems to have sprung from the very bosom of liberty, and that without a sponsor. THAT is liberty fighting back. Natively.

The advantage lies in its organic nature, not some construct that someone can claim to be 'the leader' of, start collecting donations and put up a website. Not only that, but it doesn't cost anything to join the movement. It is a rallying point where all can quietly make their protest known without standing in line or the rain and without worrying about being jostled into a felony or an overzealous cop. Everyone can do it, and there is no one for the counterprotestors to attack.

[Smokin Joe]

@libertybele

Problem I see is that it's like planting your corn crop in October...complete failure and waste.

There's no time left for growing things.  Only way to succeed is thru the point of a gun and like I stated earlier upthread...technology forbids its success. 

Groups like the ones meeting at John Adams' Tavern would have to leave their cell phones at home with the batteries displaced.  Even doing that is no guarantee today.

Get a .30 caliber ammo can and put it in that. It just goes dark on the network.

[roamer_1]

Conservatives lecture --- in the most off-putting ways possible.

Pro-tip:  People ignore the books you insist they read to fully understand the complexities of conservative philosophy they intrinsically know and call common sense ----- and turn away from conservatives as they do any blowhard.  You win no heart, no mind, no vote.

Then remain ignorant - especially of history, our greatest guide - and be on your way.

MAGA supporters are fighting for freedom, limited government influence, the rule of law as enshrined in the US Constitution, the American legacy and inheritance, the inalienable right to live a life surrounded by God, country and family without intrusion by overlords ----- and you call this "shiny shit".

The Founding Fathers and original Minutemen are a good examples from before this era ----- MAGA is from their political bloodline.  These are the people you call "idiots".

Yeah... No, you're not. Y'all chase after bumper stickers and stolen slogans.
Had you read the books I recommend, and had you a single thought  toward those who have gone before, you'd know that. But you spout platitudes in slogans and play smash with concepts that cannot go together - Like all mentioned above and big government.

Foremost in your error is that. You will fail, and usher in liberalism on the right in your ignorance.

Watch and see.
or go read some books.

[roamer_1]

The advantage lies in its organic nature, not some construct that someone can claim to be 'the leader' of, start collecting donations and put up a website. Not only that, but it doesn't cost anything to join the movement. It is a rallying point where all can quietly make their protest known without standing in line or the rain and without worrying about being jostled into a felony or an overzealous cop. Everyone can do it, and there is no one for the counterprotestors to attack.

Yes, that's right. And that is why I found it so invigorating. Over beer, no less. Which is priceless.
But it was magic. All at once all these men, all over the country just stood up and hollered nuff. At the same time. Some single vibe went out and rung all their bells.

Now, I know that right-facing organizations glommed on later and tried to claim it, But that ain't true. That ain't how it started. Something just rung true and they all heard it.

That is worthy of study. I haven't seen the like since the TEA Party, which was kinda the same thing.

[corbe]

@sneakypete

So happy to see you have joined the current conversation again.

Noticed that you were an island for the past two months....virtually the only one taking on the crazy NTs.

As @AllThatJazzZ recently suggested to @libertybele ... don't take the bait and return to the circular firing squad.

It's tired and it's boring as hell.

Nobody is going to persuade @roamer_1 that he's living in a fantasy today.  "Pragmatism" is a foreign language and concept to him.

The vast majority of Briefers who agree with you and me have been cowed into silence in their quest to avoid confrontations.

It nauseates me.  Ownership won't even acknowledge it in the name of "Free expression". 

The NT's are their pets now, because without THEM...this place is a funeral parlor.

Even PM'd me when they suspended @Right_in_Virginia begging me to contact her to return because the place became an anti-Trump echo chamber.  I did it gladly because...you don't treat a cornerstone of the forum like that just because of her political alignments.

How many times do they expect good people to "Turn the other cheek"?  Being called "liars"..."Paid consultants to sabotage the DeSantis campaign".

Even still we have a couple of the NT goobers blaming Pres. Trump for the current inflationary spending...derailing the thread so that it becomes "Orange Man Bad" again.

Don't fall for it, Sneaky.  Please?

THEY are the core here now.  They're Anarchists.

 That is pure and unadulterated BS @DCPatriot

   Yes, @sneakypete held his own as the Supreme Trumper here on TBR only because you got banned for 'Not being able to play well with others', calling other Briefers azzholes for instance  AND your sidekick RiV took weeks off a futile attempt to be noble.

   The Integrity of TBR went UP in yall's absence as far as I am concerned.

[corbe]

   I observed @Right_in_Virginia It didn't take a Rocket Surgeon to figure this $hit out.

[DCPatriot]

That is pure and unadulterated BS @DCPatriot

   Yes, @sneakypete held his own as the Supreme Trumper here on TBR only because you got banned for 'Not being able to play well with others', calling other Briefers azzholes for instance  AND your sidekick RiV took weeks off a futile attempt to be noble.

   The Integrity of TBR went UP in yall's absence as far as I am concerned.

@corbe

Nobody here in the thread is talking about my week timeout on January 18th.  And that @Right_in_Virginia was absent during said time. 

We're talking about months ago, you asswipe.  Back away from your bong, why don't you?

You and I are done from this moment on.  Don't ever ping me again.

[DCPatriot]

Where did you hear this @corbe

He's making it up out of whole cloth.

Let's just ignore the stoner, okay?

[Right_in_Virginia]

He's making it up out of whole cloth.

Let's just ignore the stoner, okay?

Works for me   

[AllThatJazzZ]

@AllThatJazzZ

By the way, have I told you I like your screen name? How did you come up with it? Jazz fan?

@LMAO

Thanks. I like it too. It's got nothing to do with music, actually. It has to do with my dogs I had when I joined TBR. Jazz and Zoey. I do like some jazz. The smooth, relaxing kind. 

[AllThatJazzZ]

Who is whacking you, @AllThatJazzZ ?

No, @Hoodat. Not opening that can of worms. And no, I didn't get my tomato plants out. Not growing anything but chives, rosemary and basil these days. Maybe some mint.

[Hoodat]

Then remain ignorant - especially of history, our greatest guide - and be on your way.

As Ayn Rand once said:  'One can evade reality, but one cannot evade the consequences of evading reality'.

[Hoodat]

That is pure and unadulterated BS @DCPatriot 

.  .  .

   The Integrity of TBR went UP in yall's absence as far as I am concerned.

You sure got that right, @corbe .

[sneakypete]

@DCPatriot

Well, THAT was a telling post! First, I had no idea @Right_in_Virginia was suspended. I don't know what the circumstances were, but it's troubling to learn that.

@AllThatJazzZ

"Troubling" isn't a strong enough word.

Let's try "outrageous" and "unacceptable",and I ,for one,would like to know the reason for it.


I agree that it's tired and boring. The INCESSANT carrying on, saying the same thing over and over and just putting the words in different order, jumping in with an incendiary remark when the temperature has cooled and the dialog has become less contentious -- I can't help but notice some serious addiction to controversy. And the need for the last word? Dude! Don't get me started.

I've been in this position before. Only then I was getting whacked to death by Trumpers. Then I got the ZOT. How ironic that I'm getting whacked to death by NTs! I'm amused at life's little ironies!

If that is true,how are you posting now?

But, yes, the unending griping, whining, accusing, name-calling, etc., tends to suck all the oxygen and the joy out of the room. I'm too old and life's too short to endure it. I enjoy a civil exchange of ideas. But I won't go back for more if it becomes abusive.

I agree with  you on that. I don't mind the name-calling as much as I mind the absolutely  mind-numbing brain-lock of some of those people who CLAIM to be adults. They need to WTFU and realize they are living in a real world,with real people who have real problems.

Frankly,I am getting so tired of arguing with minds locked away in fantasy worlds,but I am tempted to just give up because NONE of these people are going to EVER "look reality in the face" and realize that "quiting ain't winning,and they are quitters"

Sooo,bleep  them  one and all. I am pretty much done trying to reason with the unreasonable. Oh,I might read a world-class stoopid post by  one of them and respond with ridicule occasionally,but I am done trying to reason with them.

[Smokin Joe]

No, @Hoodat. Not opening that can of worms. And no, I didn't get my tomato plants out. Not growing anything but chives, rosemary and basil these days. Maybe some mint.

Well, there is still plenty of time. My tomatoes won't go in until late May (last frost is usually out to the second week of June, here).

[Hoodat]

Nobody is going to persuade @roamer_1 that he's living in a fantasy today.  "Pragmatism" is a foreign language and concept to him.

Pragmatism?  Seriously?  You wouldn't know 'pragmatism' if it bit you on the ass.  @roamer_1 is probably the most pragmatic poster here.  No beating around the bush with him.  He is the polar opposite of you.  When it comes to problems, he provides a direct solution.  Contrast that against your approach to completely ignore (or excuse) anything that gets in the way of your hero worship.

Take the deficit for example.  Let's hear some of your wonderful 'pragmatism' on that.  What is your matter-of-fact solution to that?

Oh wait, you're already on record here defending Trump's $3 trillion deficits, lest making pragmatic budget decisions would hurt him in the polls.

Pragmatism?  From you?  Please.

[DCPatriot]

Pragmatism?  Seriously?  You wouldn't know 'pragmatism' if it bit you on the ass.  @roamer_1 is probably the most pragmatic poster here.  No beating around the bush with him.  He is the polar opposite of you.  When it comes to problems, he provides a direct solution.  Contrast that against your approach to completely ignore (or excuse) anything that gets in the way of your hero worship.

Take the deficit for example.  Let's hear some of your wonderful 'pragmatism' on that.  What is your matter-of-fact solution to that?

Oh wait, you're already on record here defending Trump's $3 trillion deficits, lest making pragmatic budget decisions would hurt him in the polls.

Pragmatism?  From you?  Please.

ROFL!

I'm pragmatic enough to know you ain't going to change anything without winning elections.

I'm pragmatic to understand that this coming Election is a binary choice between MAGA philosophy and outright American Communism.

If you're too stupid to accept that, then STFU and let the adults converse.

This thread took a dramatic turn once I entered it and pointed out your crew's insanity.  It's been growing pages by the hour since then...go back and look.

We engaged in polite, intelligent conversation...finally putting your deficit spending and Orange Man Bad bullshit gagged in the trunk where it belongs.

YOU'RE the one baiting us right now.  YOU, who can't even bring himself to vote for Donald Trump because "DC and RIV" sometimes get into "I'll rip your face off and show it to your" mode.

And then you have the nerve to brag to post your vindictive, cowardly reason for it.  TWICE!  (The internet is forever)

You should go back and play in the Ukraine War thread sandbox and leave us alone to enjoy one another's company for change.

[AllThatJazzZ]

@sneakypete

If that is true,how are you posting now?

It wasn't TBR that ZOTTED me. It was TOS.


And while I've got your attention -- and maybe I'm the only one -- when you put your responses inside the quote you're responding to, it gets very confusing for me. At times I have a hard time differentiating between the original quote and your response. Any chance you'd entertain the thought of putting your response below the quoted text?