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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #75 on: January 26, 2024, 02:05:46 pm »
You will do what I say!! As I say ... dammit ... gehorche mir, du Schwein!!



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You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists.

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« Reply #76 on: January 26, 2024, 02:07:23 pm »
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #77 on: January 26, 2024, 02:34:26 pm »
Trump to States: Use National Guard to Remove Migrants Across Border

Former President Donald Trump called on governors to use their National Guard soldiers to remove migrants back across the border. His post on Truth Social follows statements from 25 Republican governors supporting the State of Texas’s standoff against the Biden administration in Shelby Park.

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2024/01/26/trump-to-states-use-national-guard-to-remove-migrants-across-border/
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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #78 on: January 26, 2024, 02:39:26 pm »
RFK Jr. praises Texas in battle with Biden over border

Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on Thursday backed Texas in its ongoing battle with the federal government over border authority, criticizing the Biden administration for its handling of the U.S. southern border.

“Texas is right. Biden’s failure to secure the border leaves states no choice but to take matters into their own hands,” Kennedy wrote in a post on X, formerly known as Twitter. “As President, I will end this humanitarian crisis once and for all. I will secure the border and destroy the business model of the drug cartels. A country without borders is not a country at all.”

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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #79 on: January 26, 2024, 02:42:09 pm »
It Is Not Texas That’s Defying the Law — It’s Biden

National Review By Andrew C. McCarthy 1/25/2024

There is a great deal of moronic commentary accusing the State of Texas of defying the Supreme Court. In point of fact, the Supreme Court did not order Texas to do anything. It vacated an order by the Fifth Circuit that, during the pendency of an ongoing lawsuit between the feds and the state, barred federal authorities from cutting concertina wire that Texas has installed in parts of its 1,254-mile border with Mexico. That is, the Supreme Court (with no opinion, and over the objection of four justices, who also did not write) held that, for now, the lower courts may not prevent the federal authorities from dismantling barriers.

That Supreme Court action did not to direct Texas to do anything. The Court did not presume to tell Texas that it could not take action to protect its territory and exclude intruders — to have done so would have been constitutionally dubious for the reasons Justice Antonin Scalia explained nearly a dozen years ago in his Arizona v. United States opinion — which Governor Gregg Abbott has explicitly relied on, and which should be read, reread, and memorized. (Note: Abbott described the 2012 Scalia opinion as a “dissent”; it actually concurred in part and dissented in part with the Court’s multilayered decision.)

There is no doubt that the federal and state governments both have immigration- and border-enforcement authority. How they work out disputes, particularly under circumstances in which no attempt has been made by Congress in statutory law to prevent the lawful defensive measures Texas has taken, is a political question. This is vertical rather than horizontal separation of powers — collision between federal and state authority rather than presidential and congressional authority — but the dynamic is similar: The law’s preference is for the political officials who answer to the people whose lives are deeply affected to work it out.

Although I disagree with the high Court’s vacating of the Fifth Circuit injunction against DHS (our editorial leans that way, too), I think I understand why it was done (i.e., why Justice Amy Coney Barrett sided with the majority rather than with the other four conservative justices).

Border enforcement is a political duty, not a judicial one. It involves matters of security and diplomacy that are not within the judicial ken. The state government has border-enforcement authority, and the federal government has border-enforcement authority. The actor whose border-enforcement authority is questionable is the Court. I assume the Court was uncomfortable with federal judges’ telling the Biden administration how to carry out border enforcement; I assume the justices would be equally reluctant to endorse a court’s telling Texas how to do it.

More: https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/it-is-not-texas-thats-defying-the-law-its-biden/

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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #80 on: January 26, 2024, 02:49:39 pm »
BORDER SHOWDOWN: Texas’ Constitutional Right to Defend Against Invasion Supersedes Federal Law, Says Governor
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Abbott Asserts Texas' Right to Repel Invasion (Randy Clark, Bob Price/Breitbart Texas)Randy Clark, Bob Price/Breitbart Texas
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Texas Governor Gregg Abbott asserts Texas’ constitutional right to defend and protect itself as it relates to the ongoing border crisis gripping the state. His analysis comes in a statement issued on Wednesday while state and federal authorities square off over granting federal agents access to Shelby Park in Eagle Pass, Texas. Governor Abbott ordered state authorities to seize the park in early January. The statement faults President Biden for refusing to enforce immigration laws in the state.

Abbott’s statement asserts in part:

President Biden has violated his oath to faithfully execute immigration laws enacted by Congress. Instead of prosecuting immigrants for the federal crime of illegal entry, President Biden has sent his lawyers into federal courts to sue Texas for taking action to secure the border.

President Biden has instructed his agencies to ignore federal statutes that mandate the detention of illegal immigrants. The effect is to illegally allow their en masse parole into the United States.

By wasting taxpayer dollars to tear open Texas’s border security infrastructure, President Biden has enticed illegal immigrants away from the 28 legal entry points along this State’s southern border— bridges where nobody drowns—and into the dangerous waters of the Rio Grande.

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2024/01/24/border-showdown-texas-constitutional-right-to-defend-against-invasion-supersedes-federal-law-says-governor/
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« Reply #81 on: January 26, 2024, 03:47:53 pm »
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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #82 on: January 26, 2024, 05:10:43 pm »

Fascists in the NeverTrump movement? Appears someone is confused very very badly **nononono*

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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #83 on: January 26, 2024, 05:17:52 pm »
There ain't enough popcorn for this coming Biden shitshow!.

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« Reply #84 on: January 26, 2024, 05:20:21 pm »

Fascists in the NeverTrump movement? Appears someone is confused very very badly **nononono*
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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #85 on: January 26, 2024, 05:22:14 pm »
You don’t become cooler with age but you do care progressively less about being cool, which is the only true way to actually be cool.

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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #86 on: January 26, 2024, 06:59:30 pm »
Oklahoma is getting ready to send their National Guard to help Texas in their fight against illegal immigration and the Biden administration.

https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1750933165496279176

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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #88 on: January 26, 2024, 07:56:01 pm »
Texas' dispute with Biden over border crisis escalates

The Center Square By Bethany Blankley 1/25/2024

Congressional Democrat calls on Biden to federalize Texas Guard; Consitutional law expert says Congress should determine if that would be impeachable offense

(The Center Square) – As the conflict between the federal government and Texas escalates over the state's right to defend its border with Mexico, Gov. Greg Abbott is not backing down as a congressional Democrat called on President Joe Biden to federalize the Texas National Guard.

If the Texas National Guard were federalized solely to usurp Abbott’s constitutional authority to secure the Texas border, Congress should consider whether doing so constitutes a high crime and misdemeanor – an impeachable offense – under the U.S. Constitution, a constitutional law expert told The Center Square.

After Abbott invoked his constitutional authority to defend Texas’ border on Wednesday, saying, “The federal government has broken the compact between the United States and the States,” reports surfaced that Biden could federalize the Texas National Guard. This would result in pulling them from the Texas border and breaking the chain of command under Abbott.

Abbott called up several thousand guard members and positioned them at the Texas-Mexico border through his border security mission, Operation Lone Star. After the U.S. Supreme Court this week ruled Border Patrol agents could destroy Texas' concertina wire barriers, Abbott instructed guardsmen to build more.

U.S. Rep. Joaquin Castro, a Democrat from San Antonio, said that if Abbott “defies” the Supreme Court’s ruling, Biden “needs to establish sole federal control of the Texas National Guard now.”

More: https://www.thecentersquare.com/texas/article_a84bd824-bbae-11ee-b4ce-e3596e947d1b.html


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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #89 on: January 26, 2024, 08:12:25 pm »
End Wokeness
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10 states with the most guns per capita:

1. Montana (66.4% of adults)
2. Wyoming (66% of adults)
3. Alaska (64.5% of adults)
4. Idaho (60.1% of adults)
5. WV (58.5% of adults)
6. AR (57.2% of adults)
7. MS (56.3% of adults)
8. AL (55.2% of adults)
9. SD (55.1% of adults)
10. ND (55% of adults)

All 10 of these states support the Texas Border Resistance against the federal government.
7:36 AM · Jan 26, 2024

Incidentally - see I tolja so ... Montana... more guns per square inch than anywhere. Very interesting the top states are mountain states in the PacNW, counting WY (which really ain't, but is our brother here in MT)

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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #90 on: January 26, 2024, 08:40:00 pm »
Oklahoma is getting ready to send their National Guard to help Texas in their fight against illegal immigration and the Biden administration.

https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1750933165496279176

This is starting to look like civil war isn't it?

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« Reply #91 on: January 26, 2024, 08:47:00 pm »
This is starting to look like civil war isn't it?

Hopefully not.  It's going to be a showdown. That's what I've been thinking -- blue states against red -- the FEDS will come in and try to take power away from the state guards.  Which means .... those individuals that are capable and able ... TX needs you! 

I wish I was about 10 years younger and in good health -- I'd be down there helping wherever I could.

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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #92 on: January 26, 2024, 08:52:36 pm »
JUST IN: Senior Border Patrol official says they stand tall with Texas and have "no plans" to take down razor wire from the southern border.
 
America stands with Texas.
 
According to Fox News, a Border Patrol official told them that their relationship with Texas "remains strong."

https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1750970248671731999

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« Reply #93 on: January 26, 2024, 08:59:36 pm »
JUST IN: Senior Border Patrol official says they stand tall with Texas and have "no plans" to take down razor wire from the southern border.
 
America stands with Texas.
 
According to Fox News, a Border Patrol official told them that their relationship with Texas "remains strong."

https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1750970248671731999

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« Reply #94 on: January 26, 2024, 09:13:19 pm »

This is starting to look like civil war isn't it?
Yes ... sort of. Not the Civil War of the 1800s, but yes. It does look like a State vs. Federal kind of fight. I doubt anyone will be shooting anyone but the premise is the same.

In this case, Texas is clearly in the right to be able to defend itself. The latte sucking scum in Washington D.C. need to realize that they are dealing with real people and real problems who do not give a single shit about what they think.

Tell Biden to eat another ice cream cone. Hell man, eat a hundred ice cream cones and kiss my ass.
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« Reply #95 on: January 26, 2024, 09:16:26 pm »
Texas would be #1 but we don't admit to having any.  happy77
Exactly!
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« Reply #96 on: January 26, 2024, 09:16:44 pm »
Texas would be #1 but we don't admit to having any.  happy77

Oh, neither do we...

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« Reply #97 on: January 26, 2024, 09:21:02 pm »
Of those ten States, how many rank in the top ten in gun violence?
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« Reply #98 on: January 26, 2024, 09:30:00 pm »
Of those ten States, how many rank in the top ten in gun violence?

Six

Edit to add: Five of those in the top ten for gun violence are in the top ten for gun suicides. @Hoodat
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« Reply #99 on: January 26, 2024, 11:02:12 pm »
Wingnut postulates in reply 92 above:
"There ain't enough popcorn for this coming Biden sh*tshow!"

How many F-16's does Texas have?

(no nukes, at least... not yet)

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