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The Electric-Vehicle Cheating Scandal
« on: January 18, 2024, 01:49:03 pm »
WSJ by Michael Buschbacher and James Conde 1/16/2024

A government rule makes them look nearly seven times as efficient as they are.

It’s hard to think of a worse environmental scandal in recent years than Volkswagen
’s 2015 diesel-emissions cheating. The German automaker was rightly pursued by regulators, enforcement agencies and class-action lawyers.

The scandal ended up costing Volkswagen an estimated $33 billion in fines and financial settlements—and revealed that diesel-emissions cheating was endemic. In 2020 Daimler
AG made a $1.5 billion settlement over emissions cheating in Mercedes-Benz diesel vehicles. (One of us helped secure that settlement.) Last year engine maker Cummins agreed to pay $1.7 billion to settle claims that it skirted diesel-emissions standards.

In all of these cases, regulators punished carmakers that had cut corners and misled the public. But when it comes to electric cars, the government has a cheating scandal of its own. That scandal, grabbing far fewer headlines, is buried deep in the Federal Register—on page 36,987 of volume 65.

When carmakers test gasoline-powered vehicles for compliance with the Transportation Department’s fuel-efficiency rules, they must use real values measured in a laboratory. By contrast, under an Energy Department rule, carmakers can arbitrarily multiply the efficiency of electric cars by 6.67. This means that although a 2022 Tesla
Model Y tests at the equivalent of about 65 miles per gallon in a laboratory (roughly the same as a hybrid), it is counted as having an absurdly high compliance value of 430 mpg. That number has no basis in reality or law.

More: https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-electric-car-cheating-scandal-subsidy-rule-efficiency-falsehood-2798b4ab

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Re: The Electric-Vehicle Cheating Scandal
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2024, 10:46:40 pm »
"although a 2022 Tesla Model Y tests at the equivalent of about 65 miles per gallon in a laboratory (roughly the same as a hybrid), it is counted as having an absurdly high compliance value of 430 mpg. That number has no basis in reality or law."

Once again:
The greatest hoax in human history.

And... it seems to be working...!

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Re: The Electric-Vehicle Cheating Scandal
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2024, 10:53:46 pm »
Man Made Climate Change will be the biggest fraud committed against people when all is said and done.

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Re: The Electric-Vehicle Cheating Scandal
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2024, 11:34:26 pm »
"although a 2022 Tesla Model Y tests at the equivalent of about 65 miles per gallon in a laboratory (roughly the same as a hybrid), it is counted as having an absurdly high compliance value of 430 mpg. That number has no basis in reality or law."

Once again:
The greatest hoax in human history.

And... it seems to be working...!
At this latitude, the hoax is working better (for now) than the cars...

Dominos Pizza invested in at least three of the Chevy Volt units for in-house delivery vehicles. The two in town here died. As in would not even charge, died, two years old. Another was supposed to be sent up to replace one of them, from a Montana franchise 40 miles away. It has not shown up yet....two days later.

If that is any measure of reliability, these things are not ready for prime time.

I heard Hertz is dumping 20,000 of their electrics, too.
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Re: The Electric-Vehicle Cheating Scandal
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2024, 01:39:48 pm »
Electric vehicles are fleecing us out of billions
January 22nd, 2024
When you buy a new internal combustion vehicle, you are also paying for someone else’s electric vehicle.

While the subsidies are egregious enough, it turns out EV manufacturers are fleecing us out of billions, and doing it with government help.

Attorneys Michael Buschbacher and James Conde explain at The Wall Street Journal:

When carmakers test gasoline-powered vehicles for compliance with the Transportation Department’s fuel-efficiency rules, they must use real values measured in a laboratory. By contrast, under an Energy Department rule, carmakers can arbitrarily multiply the efficiency of electric cars by 6.67. This means that although a 2022 Tesla Model Y tests at the equivalent of about 65 miles per gallon in a laboratory (roughly the same as a hybrid), it is counted as having an absurdly high compliance value of 430 mpg. That number has no basis in reality or law.

https://www.cfact.org/2024/01/22/electric-vehicles-are-fleecing-us-out-of-billions/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=electric-vehicles-are-fleecing-us-out-of-billions&utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=electric-vehicles-are-fleecing-us-out-of-billions
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Re: The Electric-Vehicle Cheating Scandal
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2024, 02:33:44 pm »
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And this is true whether you ever owned or intend to own one.
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