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Sounds to me like the left is plotting their preemptive insurrection.
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Fears grow that Trump will use the military in ‘dictatorial ways’ if he returns to the White House
Among those being mentioned for Trump’s secretary of defense are Christopher Miller, who served temporarily during his administration, Michael Flynn and Mike Pompeo.
Jan. 14, 2024, 7:00 AM EST
By Peter Nicholas, Katherine Doyle, Megan Lebowitz and Courtney Kube

WASHINGTON — Donald Trump is sparking fears among those who understand the inner workings of the Pentagon that he would convert the nonpartisan U.S. military into the muscular arm of his political agenda as he makes comments about dictatorship and devalues the checks and balances that underpin the nation’s two-century-old democracy.

A circle of appointees independent of Trump’s political operation steered him away from ideas that would have pushed the limits of presidential power in his last term, according to books they’ve written and testimony given to Congress. Most were gone by the end. In a new term, many former officials worry that Trump would instead surround himself with loyalists unwilling to say no.

Trump has raised fresh questions about his intentions if he regains power by putting forward a legal theory that a president would be free to do nearly anything with impunity — including assassinate political rivals — so long as Congress can’t muster the votes to impeach him and throw him out of office. ...

Now, bracing for Trump’s potential return, a loose-knit network of public interest groups and lawmakers is quietly devising plans to try to foil any efforts to expand presidential power, which could include pressuring the military to cater to his political needs.

Those taking part in the effort told NBC News they are studying Trump’s past actions and 2024 policy positions so that they will be ready if he wins in November. That involves preparing to take legal action and send letters to Trump appointees spelling out consequences they’d face if they undermine constitutional norms.

“We’re already starting to put together a team to think through the most damaging types of things that he [Trump] might do so that we’re ready to bring lawsuits if we have to,” said Mary McCord, executive director of the Institution for Constitutional Advocacy and Protection at Georgetown Law.

Part of the aim is to identify like-minded organizations and create a coalition to challenge Trump from day one, those taking part in the discussions said.  ...
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MS(NBC) gaslights again.  And again...and again.

For someone who would invoke such heinous acts, Trump sure kept military action at bay during his adminstration.  Outside zapping a few terrorist leaders , things were pretty quiet.

Believe me, there are plenty of things not to like about Trump, but this isn't one of them   
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Sounds to me like the left is plotting their preemptive insurrection.

Yep.  Whatever heinous acts they predict others of doing, they are already making plans to do themselves.  How else would they get the idea unless they were already thinking about it? 
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Yep.  Whatever heinous acts they predict others of doing, they are already making plans to do themselves.  How else would they get the idea unless they were already thinking about it?

Exactly!
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Yep.  Whatever heinous acts they predict others of doing, they are already making plans to do themselves.  How else would they get the idea unless they were already thinking about it?
Consider he did not even declare an emergency and send troops to quell rioting in cities (often leftist cities) across America, he sure didn't do very well using the military in 'dictatorial ways' when the opportunity presented and public sentiment would have backed it. :shrug:

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MS(NBC) gaslights again.  And again...and again.

For someone who would invoke such heinous acts, Trump sure kept military action at bay during his adminstration.  Outside zapping a few terrorist leaders , things were pretty quiet.

Believe me, there are plenty of things not to like about Trump, but this isn't one of them

There were times where Trump should have done more, and didn't.
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Trump didn’t even do it when antifa was burning down the country.

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ROFLMAO!

The reason they "fear" this is because it is what THEY want to do,because it will insure there are no more elections.
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Yep.  Whatever heinous acts they predict others of doing, they are already making plans to do themselves.  How else would they get the idea unless they were already thinking about it?

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He's got no one to blame but himself..you shouldn't announce that you are going to be a *dictator* on day one.!!
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He's got no one to blame but himself..you shouldn't announce that you are going to be a *dictator* on day one.!!

That, and his stupid statements leading up to and on January 6.  He's handed them the rhetorical ammo that lets them get away with this.

"That's just the way he talks" is a crappy excuse.
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Trump didn’t even do it when antifa was burning down the country.

That is one reason why I cannot and will not vote for him.  He could have declared the Insurrection Act, but no, he was afraid of taking that action costing him the election.
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There’s not enough people in military to go along with his dictatorship

This is the same “President so and so will declare some type of martial law so they can remain president” type nonsense I heard when GWB and BHO  were president
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That, and his stupid statements leading up to and on January 6.  He's handed them the rhetorical ammo that lets them get away with this.

"That's just the way he talks" is a crappy excuse.

He’s his own worse enemy
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He’s his own worse enemy

It's funny - basically the only issue the Democrats really have is January 6.  And Trump handed it to them on a silver platter.

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It's funny - basically the only issue the Democrats really have is January 6.  And Trump Pelosi/FBI handed it to them on a silver platter.
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It does NOT matter what Trump will want when POTUS if he were to get elected.  You think his hands were tied in his first term, just wait for the gridlock of term 2.  I tell you, he will be the worst lame duck POTUS ever.  Three months in and he will be asking himself why he did this to himself.

And that is if he can get past the election fixing of ones and zeroes.  I doubt he will.  Even if 90% of the country voted for him, once someone plays with the ones and zeroes, not much one can do.  And the SCOTUS will remain as spineless as ever and not touch anything remotely associated with a tainted federal election.

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It does NOT matter what Trump will want when POTUS if he were to get elected.  You think his hands were tied in his first term, just wait for the gridlock of term 2.  I tell you, he will be the worst lame duck POTUS ever.  Three months in and he will be asking himself why he did this to himself.

And that is if he can get past the election fixing of ones and zeroes.  I doubt he will.  Even if 90% of the country voted for him, once someone plays with the ones and zeroes, not much one can do.  And the SCOTUS will remain as spineless as ever and not touch anything remotely associated with a tainted federal election.

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And DeSanctimonious or someone else would not have these problems?
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And DeSanctimonious or someone else would not have these problems?

Maybe they would. Or maybe not.

But we know for a fact and history, Trump will


You Trump sycophants forget that we have a four-year record already to base our judgment on. You act as if this is his first time running.

Many of the economic problems we’re experiencing got their start during the Trump administration. Biden is only accelerating them

I think I’ll pass on the continuation of the Obama/Trump/Biden era
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There’s not enough people in military to go along with his dictatorship

This is the same “President so and so will declare some type of martial law so they can remain president” type nonsense I heard when GWB and BHO  were president

Yes, the military would never go along with this.  Nor would the Supreme Court or Congress.  Despite that, you see people on both the left and right predicting it will happen if the election does not go their way.

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Yes, the military would never go along with this.  Nor would the Supreme Court or Congress.  Despite that, you see people on both the left and right predicting it will happen if the election does not go their way.

This election is shaping up to be more about which side can scare voters more  and owning the other side

It’s not about the problems facing this country or issues. We’re looking at two men who have been part of our problems running against each other

And whoever wins, the loser and their supporters will not accept the results
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And with the current top candidates the country will continue its rapid decline no matter who wins.

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And with the current top candidates the country will continue its rapid decline no matter who wins.


So you don’t believe that Trump is “obsessed with going down in the history books as the president that saved America”  wink777
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I don't see what they are afraid of, now that Slo Joe has hollowed out the Military with Wokeness.
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Report: Establishment Plots Military Coup Against Donald Trump if Reelected

Wendell Husebø 15 Jan 2024

The establishment is reportedly in the beginning stages of plotting what appears to be a military coup against former President Donald Trump if voters reelect him as commander-in-chief.

The plot highlights the extent to which the establishment fears Trump’s potential return to power. If Trump wins reelection, he vowed to deconstruct the administrative state — the apparatus of unelected bureaucrats who create binding rules with, without, or against the law.

“Bracing” for Trump’s victory amid positive polling, the coup would appear under the guise of Trump allegedly converting “the nonpartisan U.S. military into the muscular arm of his political agenda,” NBC News reported Sunday.

The establishment worries “there may be nothing stopping a president from mobilizing the military to intervene in elections, police American streets or quash domestic protests” and that “the military’s role is unique in that soldiers and sailors are trained to obey the commander-in-chief but are told not to follow illegal orders.”

The establishment’s reported coup includes “legal action” against Trump and “quietly devising plans to try to foil any efforts to expand presidential power, which could include pressuring the military to cater to his political needs.”

    “We’re already starting to put together a team to think through the most damaging types of things that he [Trump] might do so that we’re ready to bring lawsuits if we have to,” Mary McCord, executive director of the Institution for Constitutional Advocacy and Protection at Georgetown Law, told NBC News.

    “He’s going to be one creative motherf—– when it comes to trying to figure out how to abuse it [power]. Whatever your guess is, open up your imagination a little more,” Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA) told the outlet.

    “He’s a clear and present danger to our democracy,” added William Cohen, a former Republican senator from Maine and defense secretary in the Clinton administration. “His support is solid. And I don’t think people understand what living in a dictatorship would mean.”

Republicans are highly critical of the plot, suggesting it would be an unconstitutional coup against the president. “NBC reports the left is plotting ways to have [the] military not be under civilian control,” Fox News contributor Molly Hemingway posted on X. “This dangerous and unconstitutional usurpation of power is being framed by NBC as good because it will undermine Trump if he is freely and fairly elected by Americans.”

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