Obituaries for 2024

[Timber Rattler]

Holy moly!  I didn't know he was ill!

But he looked very frail in this pic from August.  Cancer maybe?

[Bigun]

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/mlb-hit-king-pete-rose-dies-83-tmz-reports

MLB hit king Pete Rose dies at 83, TMZ reports

LOS ANGELES - Baseball's all-time hit king Pete Rose has reportedly died at 83.

According to a report from TMZ, Rose died on Monday at his home in Las Vegas.

Oh my! I'm sorry to learn of this! Mr. Hustle is the greatest of them all as far as I'm concerned.

[jmyrlefuller]

Holy moly!  I didn't know he was ill!

But he looked very frail in this pic from August.  Cancer maybe?

I didn't realize the guy was 83.

I thought he was still in his 70s.

Guy should've been put in the Hall of Fame the moment MLB started signing deals with gambling books.

[mountaineer]

Agreed. Now that the professional sports leagues are in bed with gambling enterprises, the justification for excluding Rose from the HOF is not so convincing.

[Polly Ticks]

Guy should've been put in the Hall of Fame the moment MLB started signing deals with gambling books.

That is exactly right. 

[Timber Rattler]

Guy should've been put in the Hall of Fame the moment MLB started signing deals with gambling books.

TRUTH!  And Shoeless Joe Jackson too!

[AllThatJazzZ]

Will he be installed posthumously? Who knows, but wouldn't that be just like the sniveling pukes in the MLB to wait until he can no longer appreciate the honor for himself.

[Lando Lincoln]

Rose’s legacy is complicated for sure - and I have never been a fan. I just never liked the guy which is subjective, of course. What isn’t subjective is he knowingly and willfully violated some of the most sacred tenets of the times in sport. It doesn’t matter how those rules may be being bent today. He betrayed the sport without question.

He doesn’t belong in the Hall. Just my view.

[MeganC]

Rose’s legacy is complicated for sure - and I have never been a fan. I just never liked the guy which is subjective, of course. What isn’t subjective is he knowingly and willfully violated some of the most sacred tenets of the times in sport. It doesn’t matter how those rules may be being bent today. He betrayed the sport without question.

He doesn’t belong in the Hall. Just my view.

A good compromise here would be to recognize him in the Hall of Fame without admitting him.

[Lando Lincoln]

A good compromise here would be to recognize him in the Hall of Fame without admitting him.

Well, they certainly recognize his records and achievements.

[Bigun]

Professional baseball, as I knew it in my playing days, is no more and that's a crying shame! Nothing more than a mass media entertainment enterprise now. Just like pro football and professional wrestling.

[Bigun]

Well, they certainly recognize his records and achievements.

And exactly what is the Hall of Fame supposed to be about if not those very things? Honest question.

[AllThatJazzZ]

What I hate about major league baseball is that they are happy to grade on a curve when it benefits them. They're really strict about things or they're willing overlook certain things. I'm not going to leave MLB because of it, but I'm certainly going to gripe about it from time to time. This is one of those times.

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Should this Pete Rose conversation be moved and continued on the Baseball board? Your call.

[Lando Lincoln]

And exactly what is the Hall of Fame supposed to be about if not those very things? Honest question.

Based on stats and on-field achievements, Rose is Hall worthy. No doubt. But, he violates other criteria. His violations went to the integrity of the game, of Baseball. He came up woefully short in that metric.

[mountaineer]

His being banned from baseball for gambling certainly could/should be considered separately from his outstanding skill and performance as a player. Placing bets didn't diminish his play, so it's still arguable that he should be in the HOF.

[Bigun]

His being banned from baseball for gambling certainly could/should be considered separately from his outstanding skill and performance as a player. Placing bets didn't diminish his play, so it's still arguable that he should be in the HOF.

I come down on your side @mountaineer with no disrespect for my good friend @Lando Lincoln .

The way I see it what a player does ON THE FIELD over the course of his career and what happened elsewhere are two completely different issues.

[mountaineer]

I've never been to the HOF, so I don't know what the displays or plaques look like, but they could recount his achievements - hits, etc. - and still could add a few words about his banning.

[Lando Lincoln]

I come down on your side @mountaineer with no disrespect for my good friend @Lando Lincoln .

The way I see it what a player does ON THE FIELD over the course of his career and what happened elsewhere are two completely different issues.

What Rose did was while he was an active participant in baseball. That is the basis of my hardline view.

I look at the steroid era similarly. Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, Clemens and others knowingly violated the rules and impacted the integrity of the game while they were active. They can buy tickets to visit the Hall in my world.

[mountaineer]

What the steroid boys did affected their actual baseball performance, whereas I don't know that there's evidence Rose played differently in games on which he'd placed a bet. I don't know. Not taking a hard line on it. As an old Pirates fan, Rose was always the enemy. ;)

[Cyber Liberty]

What the steroid boys did affected their actual baseball performance, whereas I don't know that there's evidence Rose played differently in games on which he'd placed a bet. I don't know. Not taking a hard line on it. As an old Pirates fan, Rose was always the enemy. ;)

I believe he was a Manager when he placed bets on his home team.

[jafo2010]

Pete Rose was a great ballplayer.  RIP!  But, he should NEVER be considered for entrance into the Hall of Fame.   He tarnished his reputation by betting on games he was managing.  He knew he was violating the rules, and so his being blocked for entrance into the HOF was something he knew he was jeopardizing.

I attended a convention with CINCOM in Cincinnati when Rose was manager of the ball team.  I was one of six folks that won the ability to go down on the field and meet the ballplayers before the game one night they arranged for a visit.  Rose was not friendly in the least.  He hated our being on the field, that was clearly evident, while players were super friendly, signing balls for the six of us.

I also was a Pirates fan, and went to many games between the Pirates and Reds.  I respected Rose as a player, for he was always a real threat to put runs up on the scoreboard.  But what he did was inexcusable.  He should be forgotten completely.  He has no place to be remembered as the great players of the game.  NONE!!!

[Gefn]

John Amos, ‘Good Times’ Dad, Dies at 84

John Amos, the TV writer turned Emmy-nominated actor who starred as the stoic father on Good Times before he was fired from the landmark sitcom for objecting to stereotypes and admittedly letting his temper get the best of him, has died. He was 84.

Amos died Aug. 21 in Los Angeles of natural causes, his son, K.C. Amos, announced.

“It is with heartfelt sadness that I share with you that my father has transitioned,” he said in a statement. “He was a man with the kindest heart and a heart of gold… and he was loved the world over. Many fans consider him their TV father. He lived a good life. His legacy will live on in his outstanding works in television and film as an actor.”

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/john-amos-dead-good-times-roots-1236019054/

[Gefn]

I just realized that two actors from "Coming to America" parts one and two died within a month of each other
 

[berdie]

John Amos, ‘Good Times’ Dad, Dies at 84





https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/john-amos-dead-good-times-roots-1236019054/

John Amos was a fine actor. One of the most heartbreaking scenes I have ever seen was in Roots when they sold his daughter and he held his wife. He didn't have to speak, his face said it all.

RIP John.

[mountaineer]

I read one of the obits of John Amos. Really a remarkable man of great intellect.