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So Trump is Really Hitler?
« on: December 28, 2023, 03:22:34 pm »
December 28, 2023
So Trump is Really Hitler?
By Michael Lynch

Donald Trump is often compared to Hitler by otherwise normal people. If they go beyond a simple assertion of similarity the fearful ones do not compare the actions and experiences of the two, but rather they take their worst imaginings of what Trump might do in the future -- which, surprisingly, are very like what Hitler did. These wild fears are too removed from reality to deserve serious consideration. But we have detailed information about both Trump and Hitler, so real comparisons can be made, and there are significant differences that ought to be remembered.

The first has to do with political activity. From the end of World War I when Hitler was nearly 30 years old he devoted his life exclusively to seeking power.  Donald Trump, on the other hand, graduated from U. Penn at the age of 22, and for the next 40 years or more devoted himself to making money. It is useful to remember the wisdom of Dr. Samuel Johnson, who observed: “there are few ways in which a man can be more innocently employed than in making money.” He didn’t have the opportunity to compare seeking money to seeking power.  In our nation’s capital, it is clear that getting political power is an excellent way of getting money, but Dr. Johnson might not have found that method so innocent. The net worth of our senators and representatives typically increases geometrically while they work full-time for a modest salary more than double the median family income in the nation. Perhaps that increase in wealth is just good fortune. And yet many of these people have done nothing in their lives except to seek power and would be manifestly incapable of making significant money in any form of legitimate, productive employment.  From this angle of comparison it is clear that virtually every member of Congress is more similar to Hitler than is Donald Trump.

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Re: So Trump is Really Hitler?
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2023, 12:17:53 am »
Well,if you read the criticisms here about how  evil Trump is,he is worse than Hitler.

After all,Hitler was just rude and evil,and according to the Nervous Nellies here,Tump is not only rude and evil,he is also stupid,crooked,orange,AND  rude.
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Re: So Trump is Really Hitler?
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2023, 12:43:06 am »
Well,if you read the criticisms here about how  evil Trump is,he is worse than Hitler.

After all,Hitler was just rude and evil,and according to the Nervous Nellies here,Tump is not only rude and evil,he is also stupid,crooked,orange,AND  rude.

Yeah... no. no one here compared Tumpy to Hitler.

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Re: So Trump is Really Hitler?
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2023, 01:05:09 am »
Yeah... no. no one here compared Tumpy to Hitler.
Well....actually....it would certainly appear the poster you responded to did :whistle:

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Re: So Trump is Really Hitler?
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2023, 01:25:10 am »
Well,if you read the criticisms here about how  evil Trump is,he is worse than Hitler.

After all,Hitler was just rude and evil,and according to the Nervous Nellies here,Tump is not only rude and evil,he is also stupid,crooked,orange,AND  rude.

You're slipping @sneakypete  - you forgot 'rich'.... :tongue2:
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Re: So Trump is Really Hitler?
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2023, 01:46:42 am »
Yeah... no. no one here compared Tumpy to Hitler.

Trump is not Hitler.

But he does believe in government solutions to our problems. And and he does give his enemies ammo by using terminology that Hitler used in his “Mein Kampf”

Actually, in many ways he’s closer to Mussolini
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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2023, 01:50:37 am »
You're slipping @sneakypete  - you forgot 'rich'.... :tongue2:
...and that's where things break down. Hitler was not, and he preyed on the passions of the Wiemar Depression to energize his flock of National Socialists, picked a boogeyman, and set his people at war with the people he chose to blame the nation's troubles on.

His brand of Socialism competed for the same hearts and minds the Communists did, and won.

He had control of the Media, the police (secret and otherwise), the Army (created in his image), and ultimately over life and death for millions.
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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2023, 02:10:38 am »
I have heard over my lifetime of people  claiming that they would never follow or support a Hitler

People would follow anyone if were desperate enough. And if you look at the history of Germany post World War I, you can understand how they would be persuaded to follow Hitler
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« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2023, 02:21:34 am »
I have heard over my lifetime of people  claiming that they would never follow or support a Hitler

People would follow anyone if were desperate enough. And if you look at the history of Germany post World War I, you can understand how they would be persuaded to follow Hitler
Yes, you can. He promised a return to economic prosperity and national pride for a defeated nation that was just beginning to emerge from a terrible Depression. The national anger was directed against a few who were blamed for that malaise, then against any 'not worthy' to be Aryan demigods.

The journey to insanity takes many steps, some larger than others.

Just 80 years later there were people here fully willing to lock people in their homes or even shoot them over not having an ineffective shot or not wearing a mask that did nothing to stop the spread of a disease. They went full Nazi fast.
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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2023, 02:32:28 am »
Yes, you can. He promised a return to economic prosperity and national pride for a defeated nation that was just beginning to emerge from a terrible Depression. The national anger was directed against a few who were blamed for that malaise, then against any 'not worthy' to be Aryan demigods.

The journey to insanity takes many steps, some larger than others.

Just 80 years later there were people here fully willing to lock people in their homes or even shoot them over not having an ineffective shot or not wearing a mask that did nothing to stop the spread of a disease. They went full Nazi fast.

And people followed those rules, regardless of how absurd some of them were. It did not give me hope for this country of how eagerly people handed over their rights to the government.

I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them.

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Re: So Trump is Really Hitler?
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2023, 06:56:24 am »
You're slipping @sneakypete  - you forgot 'rich'.... :tongue2:

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« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2023, 07:00:11 am »
Trump is not Hitler.

But he does believe in government solutions to our problems.

@LMAO

So does every elected official in the country if you listen  to their campaign slogans. Finding and implementing new solutions to our problems is what everybody that runs for public office promises.
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« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2023, 09:14:10 am »
@LMAO

So does every elected official in the country if you listen  to their campaign slogans. Finding and implementing new solutions to our problems is what everybody that runs for public office promises.

No...

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« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2023, 11:37:30 am »
No...

And those that believe in government solutions to all of our problems are the problem themselves
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« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2023, 05:16:21 pm »
And those that believe in government solutions to all of our problems are the problem themselves

Yes...

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« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2023, 05:24:49 pm »
Actually Biden is more analogous to Hitler in his intentional destruction of a great nation.
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« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2024, 11:08:37 am »
And people followed those rules, regardless of how absurd some of them were. It did not give me hope for this country of how eagerly people handed over their rights to the government.
FEAR, with a capital FEAR, is key. The experts howled "DOOM!" and the parrots in the Mass Media echoed it at every breath, while Social Media silenced the voices of reason.

We got to see the 'benefits' of an education that gives in to panic without ever doing any research or even finding out the numbers and risk factors.

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« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2024, 06:19:26 pm »
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Actually Biden is more analogous to Hitler in his intentional destruction of a great nation.


EXACTLY!!!  In my 70 years on this planet, I believe Wrecking Ball Joe and his clown act co-conspirators of treason have manifested more acts of fascism than any POTUS in my life.  And frankly, I have felt that it would take the slightest shove by these Democommies to implement a totalitarian form of governance, and few would challenge them.

And anyone that did challenge them would end in prison like the January 6th folks.

Calling Trump Hitler or Mussolini is laughable.  He is no where remotely like either man.  Hitler upon taking over Germany moved quickly to eliminate any threat to his future.  He consolidated his power in the first year of leading Germany.  Within three years, he was recognized as a brilliant leader for Germany throughout the world, including the USA.

Trump, on the other hand, was constantly threatened with one tactical effort after another to dilute any power he had, with a constant effort to have him removed from office by the Democommies.  Had Trump been anything like Hitler, the Democommie leaders would have ended up dead or in prison.  That never happened.

The idiots that call him Hitler know almost nothing about Hitler.

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« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2024, 06:38:34 pm »
Actually Biden is more analogous to Hitler in his intentional destruction of a great nation.

Yes.  Yes and Yes! 
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« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2024, 06:41:27 pm »
Trump is more Mussolini, but, he'll drop Nazi tropes to re-assure white nationalists that he's still got their backs.
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« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2024, 07:05:54 pm »
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« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2024, 08:35:17 pm »
Well....actually....it would certainly appear the poster you responded to did :whistle:

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« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2024, 10:56:02 pm »

EXACTLY!!!  In my 70 years on this planet, I believe Wrecking Ball Joe and his clown act co-conspirators of treason have manifested more acts of fascism than any POTUS in my life.  And frankly, I have felt that it would take the slightest shove by these Democommies to implement a totalitarian form of governance, and few would challenge them.

And anyone that did challenge them would end in prison like the January 6th folks.

Calling Trump Hitler or Mussolini is laughable.  He is no where remotely like either man.  Hitler upon taking over Germany moved quickly to eliminate any threat to his future.  He consolidated his power in the first year of leading Germany.  Within three years, he was recognized as a brilliant leader for Germany throughout the world, including the USA.

Trump, on the other hand, was constantly threatened with one tactical effort after another to dilute any power he had, with a constant effort to have him removed from office by the Democommies.  Had Trump been anything like Hitler, the Democommie leaders would have ended up dead or in prison.  That never happened.

The idiots that call him Hitler know almost nothing about Hitler.

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They don't need to know  anything about him,other than the effort to associate Trump with  Hitlers gets knees jerking amongst the clueless.

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« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2024, 10:59:27 pm »
Yes.  Yes and Yes!

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I disagree. Other  than  "where's  my  ice cream?" and "where is my kickback money?",he is totally clueless as to what is going on.

I doubt he ever did care as long as he got his "cut" of every deal made,even when he was semi-lucid.

"Hit's all about me,me,me,where is MY money,dammit!"

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« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2024, 11:01:44 pm »
You're slipping @sneakypete  - you forgot 'rich'.... :tongue2:

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