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NY Times Targets Pro-Trump Memes, Equates Them with Deepfakes and Advocates for Regulation
Meme regulation.
 

By Didi Rankovic
Posted 1:40 pm
 

It’s that time of the US election cycle again: what were formerly known as “newspapers of record” attempting to, for political reasons, promote odd ideas like regulating jokes.

It’s the New York Times this time, looking like it’s terrified that Donald Trump might be successful in his new presidential bid, and so going guns blazing after what it calls his “troll army.”

And “troll” here means – meme creators. As for the memes themselves, the NYT either pretends not to or doesn’t get the joke – namely, that they are jokes, and basically treats them as sinister tools for peddling misinformation and deepfakes.

To add insult to the paper’s injury, the memes not only support the Trump campaign, but Trump also enjoys them, and takes time to communicate with the meme creators.

https://reclaimthenet.org/ny-times-targets-pro-trump-memes-equates-them-with-deepfakes-and-advocates-for-regulation
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Regulate Memes?   :silly:

Cue the Babylon Bee......

Dept of Meme Enforcement......   
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Regulate Memes?   :silly:

Cue the Babylon Bee......

Dept of Meme Enforcement......

I thought this was a Babylon Bee article when I first saw the tile

Somebody needs to send this to the New York Times. It’s the 1st amendment.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


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I thought this was a Babylon Bee article when I first saw the tile

Somebody needs to send this to the New York Times. It’s the 1st amendment.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


These asswipes don't realize that it is memes that got us through a Pandemic and 3 years of Pedo Joe.
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I don’t know who the New York Times writer who wrote that article is, but my hunch tells me it’s somebody younger

A lot of younger people today have been “educated” in environments were there was no debate. They grew up believing if an election doesn’t go your way, you get to have an outburst and have a room to yourself with Play-Doh and puppies, and cancel final exams. If someone comes to campus, who’s got a different viewpoint than you to speak, you work to silence them.

They grew up an environment of hate speech codes that were never really defined beyond “speech that I don’t like”

The end result is that Bella Thorne(who I have never heard of until Bill Maher), and writers like this New York Times writer
« Last Edit: December 18, 2023, 07:42:42 pm by LMAO »
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The idea that the government has any business regulating memes is wildly off, though I do think some protection against actual deep fakes is a bit different.

But I disagree with the "just a harmless joke that is supposed to be funny" tag being applied blanketly to everything that Trump army says.  Things like the insinuation that DeSantis has gay lovers is just trash.  And if Trump chooses to associate himself or as campaign with people who do that, then Trump himself is trash too.

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What a misrepresentation of the story.

The Times article was specifically about an abusive cabal of "meme creators" working directly for the Donald Trump campaign, the Dilley Meme Team, which includes our own @Right_in_Virginia , BTW. They have used deepfakes.
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The Times article was specifically about an abusive cabal of "meme creators"

Define "abuse" @jmyrlefuller

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What a misrepresentation of the story.

The Times article was specifically about an abusive cabal of "meme creators" working directly for the Donald Trump campaign, the Dilley Meme Team, which includes our own @Right_in_Virginia , BTW. They have used deepfakes.

Deepfakes of real people should be actionable civilly unless there is a clear disclaimer.  Otherwise, it's basically a license to commit libel.
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Define "abuse" @jmyrlefuller
Oh, IDK, the deepfakes slandering DeSantis's wife, his shoes, his height, etc... you know. All those highbrow, substantive criticisms so relevant to his record.
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What a misrepresentation of the story.

The Times article was specifically about an abusive cabal of "meme creators" working directly for the Donald Trump campaign, the Dilley Meme Team, which includes our own @Right_in_Virginia , BTW. They have used deepfakes.

I didn't realize that @Right_in_Virginia works directly for the Trump campaign; the Dilley Meme Team.  If true, that would explain a lot.
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I didn't realize that @Right_in_Virginia works directly for the Trump campaign; the Dilley Meme Team.  If true, that would explain a lot.

As you know, I have addressed this lie numerous times @libertybele   Stop trying to be an insulting shitkicker.  It's especially unbecoming from a self-proclaimed "Christan conservative" grandmother.

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As you know, I have addressed this lie numerous times @libertybele   Stop trying to be an insulting shitkicker.  It's especially unbecoming from a self-proclaimed "Christan conservative" grandmother.

Are you kidding me right now @Right_in_Virginia ?? I don't know who the hell you think you are to be so darn judgemental, but I was being serious.  I had to flippin' 'google' dilly meme the other day as it was the first I had heard of it. 

I wasn't trying to insult you and quite frankly I am absolutely sick of the drama that you create with your innuendos and taunts and yet you wonder why people react to you in here the way that they do. I've tried to be amicable, friendly, peaceful and even supportive when I thought you were right and you just keep slinging mud at me.

BTW,  I do consider myself a Christian and a conservative. Go ahead RIV, sling some more mud. Obviously it makes you feel better.   happy77
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Romans 12:16-21

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I wasn't trying to insult you and quite frankly I am absolutely sick of the drama that you create with your innuendos and taunts and yet you wonder why people react to you in here the way that they do.

This is a shitkicking insult @libertybele ----

I didn't realize that @Right_in_Virginia works directly for the Trump campaign; the Dilley Meme Team.  If true, that would explain a lot.

You know it's not true, but couldn't resist the need to belittle and lie about me. 

If you're really "sick of the drama", look in the mirror to find the source and fix it.  ☮️

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I didn't realize that @Right_in_Virginia works directly for the Trump campaign; the Dilley Meme Team.  If true, that would explain a lot.

WTH is wrong with you?   **nononono*
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This is a shitkicking insult @libertybele ----

You know it's not true, but couldn't resist the need to belittle and lie about me. 

If you're really "sick of the drama", look in the mirror to find the source and fix it.  ☮️

YOU are an insult @Right_in_Virginia  :seeya:
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Are you kidding me right now @Right_in_Virginia ?? I don't know who the hell you think you are to be so darn judgemental, but I was being serious.  I had to flippin' 'google' dilly meme the other day as it was the first I had heard of it. 

I wasn't trying to insult you and quite frankly I am absolutely sick of the drama that you create with your innuendos and taunts and yet you wonder why people react to you in here the way that they do. I've tried to be amicable, friendly, peaceful and even supportive when I thought you were right and you just keep slinging mud at me.

BTW,  I do consider myself a Christian and a conservative. Go ahead RIV, sling some more mud. Obviously it makes you feel better.   happy77

@libertybele

No...

There's no other way to interpret your post suggesting RIV works for the Trump campaign and/or Dilley Meme Team.

And we've come to blows over it already, so why would you even go there?
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WTH is wrong with you?   **nononono*

Absolutely nothing ..... I'm not the one that brought up the dilly meme article -- I questioned the comment.

Far be it from me to question anything anymore about @Right_in_Virginia
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@libertybele

No...

There's no other way to interpret your post suggesting RIV works for the Trump campaign and/or Dilley Meme Team.

And we've come to blows over it already, so why would you even go there?

We've come to blows over this???? Youv'e got the wrong person bubba. I haven't heard of the flippin' dilly meme until the other day.

Good Grief.
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As you know, I have addressed this lie numerous times @libertybele   Stop trying to be an insulting shitkicker.  It's especially unbecoming from a self-proclaimed "Christan conservative" grandmother.
then why do you take your orders directly from Dilley? Why do his team's smears appear regularly on this forum under your name?

The same team to whom Don Jr. is on record giving orders?

You may not be on the Trump payroll but your work for Dilley is undeniable.
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We've come to blows over this???? Youv'e got the wrong person bubba. I haven't heard of the flippin' dilly meme until the other day.

Good Grief.

That's NOT what we're talking about.

RIV has nothing to do with the Trump campaign or Dilley Meme Team.

She was accused of that by other posters on 'your' team...and "the house" set their stupid asses straight.

THAT'S what we're talking about.
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then why do you take your orders directly from Dilley? Why do his team's smears appear regularly on this forum under your name?

The same team to whom Don Jr. is on record giving orders?

You may not be on the Trump payroll but your work for Dilley is undeniable.

No wonder you can't get laid. 
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No wonder you can't get laid. 

   How Trumpian AND Uncouth.
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