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Re: Why Trump’s dictator remarks are working for him
« Reply #125 on: December 19, 2023, 07:53:36 pm »
Actually, the MAGA response is: Reignite the economy.  As Trump has said, "we're sitting on liquid gold".  Resume drilling,  reassert our energy independence and position as the top exporter of energy in the world.  Kaching!  Restart fair trade and resume rebuilding American based manufacturing.  Kaching!  Become the master of our own supply chain.  Kaching!  Resume the reduction of government regulations and taxes.  Kaching! 

There are ways for the economy to grow, the debt to be reduced AND for grandma to eat.  It will take skill, experience and power -- all missing from the anti-Trump wheelhouse.

Great!!

Now for the real record outside of this fantasy. Rhetoric versus reality.

Nearly 8 trillion added onto our debt in the shortest amount of time than any other president before him. Kaching!!

Trillions of dollars printed with his approval and sent out into the economy laying in the groundwork for inflation. Kaching!!

Over $100 trillion in unfunded liabilities for the so-called entitlement programs which Donald Trump has shown no interest in addressing. Kaching!

Tariffs that ended up costing the economy, especially farmers that needed to be bailed out under his watch. Kaching!!

Promising more spending without any realistic way to pay for it should he be re elected. Kaching!!

Handed over control of the economy to healthcare bureaucrats. Kaching!

Tried to pressure the federal reserve to bring interest rates to zero or negative which would punish saving. Kaching!!

Said  a few years ago that we’ll never default because we can print our currency to prevent default, which has never worked. Kaching!!

Inherited economy that was growing and left it in shambles when he left office. Kaching!!
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Re: Why Trump’s dictator remarks are working for him
« Reply #126 on: December 19, 2023, 07:58:45 pm »
Great!!

Now for the real record outside of this fantasy .....

A predictable word salad from one lacking skill, experience and power. Bless your heart.  🧡


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Re: Why Trump’s dictator remarks are working for him
« Reply #127 on: December 19, 2023, 08:03:00 pm »
A predictable word salad from one lacking skill, experience and power. Bless your heart.  🧡

Why did I suspect this would be your response… Lol. When confronted, your go to response seems to be accuse the other person of word salad. I’m sure other posters understand very clearly what I typed.

Everything I’ve listed is what really happened under his watch. If a Democrat had a record like that, you’d be calling for his or her execution. Yet somehow, Donald Trump gets a pass in your world.



You debate like a college student. Make a snarky remark to a point  that you can’t dispute and storm off.
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Re: Why Trump’s dictator remarks are working for him
« Reply #128 on: December 19, 2023, 08:09:55 pm »
No government in the 12,000 years of modern mankind history has led its people into anything but the history books with a simple lesson, don't let this happen to you.

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Re: Why Trump’s dictator remarks are working for him
« Reply #129 on: December 19, 2023, 08:24:19 pm »
The total global economic output, from the last I read, was around 100 trillion

Depending on the source, I’ve seen the amount for unfunded liabilities for the entitlement programs anywhere from $100-$120 trillion in unfunded liabilities. Many times, that’s not even accounting for state and city pensions

Where the hell are you going to get the money from drilling oil to cover not only all of that, but the debt, other spending, and all the new spendings that Trump is proposing?

No wonder why Trump University failed

Donald Trump shined on energy policy. Yet we still ran massive deficits and added massively onto the debt.
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Re: Why Trump’s dictator remarks are working for him
« Reply #130 on: December 19, 2023, 08:34:14 pm »
If Trump gets back in, he will blow up the deficit and the debt to the cheers  of his supporters

What we need is that Argentina president
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Re: Why Trump’s dictator remarks are working for him
« Reply #131 on: December 19, 2023, 08:53:16 pm »
Actually, the MAGA response is: Reignite the economy.  As Trump has said, "we're sitting on liquid gold".  Resume drilling,  reassert our energy independence and position as the top exporter of energy in the world.  Kaching!  Restart fair trade and resume rebuilding American based manufacturing.  Kaching!  Become the master of our own supply chain.  Kaching!  Resume the reduction of government regulations and taxes.  Kaching! 

There are ways for the economy to grow, the debt to be reduced AND for grandma to eat.  It will take skill, experience and power -- all missing from the anti-Trump wheelhouse.
None of that addresses the fundamental structural deficit Socialist Security has run since 2010. Too many retirees who haven't had enough next of kin to cover their benefits.
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Re: Why Trump’s dictator remarks are working for him
« Reply #132 on: December 19, 2023, 08:54:36 pm »
Mein Kampf is a tough read.  A struggle, you might say.  Hitler did not have a ghost writer, and most of the rambling would only have appealed to people immersed in german politics of the 1920s. 

If Trump ever decided to read a book, I doubt he would start with that one.  The "blood and soil" rhetoric leads me to conclude that he surrounds himself with some interesting characters.

Your commentary on Mein Kampf is dead on right -- I didn't have the luxury of understanding the original language, and mere pages in, I felt like I must have gotten a poor English translation... But no... It's just that disjointed. An horrible read, and a trudge.

As to your further commentary - Likely right. He gets the verbiage from somewhere.

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Re: Why Trump’s dictator remarks are working for him
« Reply #133 on: December 19, 2023, 08:56:26 pm »
Actually, the MAGA response is: Reignite the economy.  As Trump has said, "we're sitting on liquid gold".  Resume drilling,  reassert our energy independence and position as the top exporter of energy in the world.  Kaching!  Restart fair trade and resume rebuilding American based manufacturing.  Kaching!  Become the master of our own supply chain.  Kaching!  Resume the reduction of government regulations and taxes.  Kaching! 

There are ways for the economy to grow, the debt to be reduced AND for grandma to eat.  It will take skill, experience and power -- all missing from the anti-Trump wheelhouse.

... and keep those printers spinnin... Woo!  *****rollingeyes*****

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Re: Why Trump’s dictator remarks are working for him
« Reply #134 on: December 19, 2023, 08:59:02 pm »
Why did I suspect this would be your response… Lol. When confronted, your go to response seems to be accuse the other person of word salad. I’m sure other posters understand very clearly what I typed.

Everything I’ve listed is what really happened under his watch. If a Democrat had a record like that, you’d be calling for his or her execution. Yet somehow, Donald Trump gets a pass in your world.



You debate like a college student. Make a snarky remark to a point  that you can’t dispute and storm off.

I understood every word of it... jussayin...  :whistle:

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Re: Why Trump’s dictator remarks are working for him
« Reply #135 on: December 19, 2023, 09:17:55 pm »
To get back to the original topic... Scott Adams illustrates why: Trumpland simply doesn't believe it because they don't want to believe. Consider this heavy dose of copium, as the youngins might call it.


https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1737104760401187065

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Re: Why Trump’s dictator remarks are working for him
« Reply #136 on: December 19, 2023, 11:30:47 pm »
... and keep those printers spinnin... Woo!  *****rollingeyes*****

Every citizen owes the federal government over $100,000. And that's just the federal debt. The idea we'll drill our way out of a debt crisis is beyond laughable
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Re: Why Trump’s dictator remarks are working for him
« Reply #137 on: December 19, 2023, 11:31:14 pm »


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The blinders are the wrong color. They need to be orange
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Re: Why Trump’s dictator remarks are working for him
« Reply #138 on: December 19, 2023, 11:39:58 pm »
Every citizen owes the federal government over $100,000. And that's just the federal debt. The idea we'll drill our way out of a debt crisis is beyond laughable

Absolutely. Mostly because they will not pay it back.

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Re: Why Trump’s dictator remarks are working for him
« Reply #139 on: December 19, 2023, 11:40:30 pm »
Mein Kampf is a tough read.  A struggle, you might say.  Hitler did not have a ghost writer, and most of the rambling would only have appealed to people immersed in german politics of the 1920s. 

If Trump ever decided to read a book, I doubt he would start with that one.  The "blood and soil" rhetoric leads me to conclude that he surrounds himself with some interesting characters.

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Re: Why Trump’s dictator remarks are working for him
« Reply #140 on: December 20, 2023, 01:25:04 am »
None of that addresses the fundamental structural deficit Socialist Security has run since 2010. Too many retirees who haven't had enough next of kin to cover their benefits.

This.  Even if everything she listed actually happened, entitlements still would be massively underfunded.

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« Reply #141 on: December 20, 2023, 03:07:39 am »
This.  Even if everything she listed actually happened, entitlements still would be massively underfunded.

And that doesn't include  public employee pensions

And it's not just what did as president but he's promising more

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Re: Why Trump’s dictator remarks are working for him
« Reply #142 on: December 20, 2023, 03:27:10 am »
Actually, the MAGA response is: Reignite the economy.

The best way to reignite the economy is to get government the hell out of the way.  That isn't at all what Trump supporters are proposing.
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