Why Trump’s dictator remarks are working for him

[libertybele]

It is hard to fathom Trump acting as a dictator when he wasn't even willing to use the veto power he did have to block Democrat spending bills.

Trump is definitely not a fiscal conservative and his NY values seeped through during his presidency.

[LMAO]

The biggest reason I don't believe Trump was trying to quote Hitler is because he's ignorant.  I don't believe he reads enough to know that Hitler ever said that.

And no, I don't think Trump is a Hitler, or a wannabe Hitler.  But I do think his colossal ignorance and lack of discipline makes him a ridiculously easy target, and it's that colossal ignorance and lack of discipline itself that is the real problem I have with the guy.  So the verbal mistakes are more of a symptom than the real problem themselves, although they obviously are a political problem for him too.

I don’t either

I think he’s saying what his supporters want to hear.

It’s his supporters that are the issue. As we’ve seen here, they appear to be ok if Trump abused his office

[Timber Rattler]

The biggest reason I don't believe Trump was trying to quote Hitler is because he's ignorant.  I don't believe he reads enough to know that Hitler ever said that.

And no, I don't think Trump is a Hitler, or a wannabe Hitler.  But I do think his colossal ignorance and lack of discipline makes him a ridiculously easy target, and it's that colossal ignorance and lack of discipline itself that is the real problem I have with the guy.  So the verbal mistakes are more of a symptom than the real problem themselves, although they obviously are a political problem for him too.

He watches the documentaries about Nazis and World War II though.  Enough people have commented on that favorite pastime of his to indicate it's probably true.  And shark week.

[catfish1957]

He watches the documentaries about Nazis and World War II though.  Enough people have commented on that favorite pastime of his to indicate it's probably true.  And shark week.

Shit, I sure hope that is speculative. Any sources?

[the OlLine Rebel]

He watches the documentaries about Nazis and World War II though.  Enough people have commented on that favorite pastime of his to indicate it's probably true.  And shark week.

None of this means anything.  It may mean he’s keenly interested in the details about Hitler, or that he’s curious what made him so popular, or what kinds of things he pulled.

Of course that may indicate he wants to copy them, but he may just be interested and possibly want to avoid such things.

Know your enemy, you know.

My sister read Mein Kampf.  It is available in print.  She read it during high school and the admin brought her in on exactly this kind of hyper concern over her proclivities.  She simply wished to read history and understand background of various things.  What makes these people tick.

We also have many copies of Communist Manifesto in our houses and Das Kapital.  We are not communists.

That said, yes, Trump certainly might have proclivities.  But this is not the sole evidence to prove anything.

[LMAO]

None of this means anything.  It may mean he’s keenly interested in the details about Hitler, or that he’s curious what made him so popular, or what kinds of things he pulled.

Of course that may indicate he wants to copy them, but he may just be interested and possibly want to avoid such things.

Know your enemy, you know.

My sister read Mein Kampf.  It is available in print.  She read it during high school and the admin brought her in on exactly this kind of hyper concern over her proclivities.  She simply wished to read history and understand background of various things.  What makes these people tick.

We also have many copies of Communist Manifesto in our houses and Das Kapital.  We are not communists.

That said, yes, Trump certainly might have proclivities.  But this is not the sole evidence to prove anything.

Agree

[the OlLine Rebel]

He watches the documentaries about Nazis and World War II though.  Enough people have commented on that favorite pastime of his to indicate it's probably true.  And shark week.

BTW, just to make the point, we call “AHC” the American Hitler Channel.  Seems that most of the shows are Hitler himself and lots of NAZI shows along with general WWII.

We joke about it, but I doubt AHC is really much of a NAZI organization!

[roamer_1]

Know your enemy, you know.

My sister read Mein Kampf.  It is available in print.  She read it during high school and the admin brought her in on exactly this kind of hyper concern over her proclivities.  She simply wished to read history and understand background of various things.  What makes these people tick.

We also have many copies of Communist Manifesto in our houses and Das Kapital.  We are not communists.

That said, yes, Trump certainly might have proclivities.  But this is not the sole evidence to prove anything.

I too have read Mein Kampf. And Marx. Much of the Socialist/Communist stuff, all the way back to where it sprung forth in the French Revolution. I have read a lot of that too - The French conditions causing and post-revolution.

And because I know, I can absolutely tell you I will never be a Nazi. or a Communist. My informed position long ago settled in Conservatism, particularly of the American rural kind, as being the only thing that could possibly govern man. My position on things is not made in ignorance.

[Hoodat]

I too have read Mein Kampf.

I admit that I did not read it all, but skipped straight to the end.

*** Spoiler Alert ***

The Joos did it.

[roamer_1]

I admit that I did not read it all, but skipped straight to the end.

*** Spoiler Alert ***

The Joos did it.

I took the same approach to religion. I went down every rabbit hole to settle where I have. Informed decision is always best.
But you probably don't want to sit on my porch and talk religion. I can go on for days, and I know what I am talking about.

My positions come from knowing. Knowledge from book or life have crafted them. That is why I am immune to Brylcreme and a Dentyne shwing.

[Hoodat]

But you probably don't want to sit on my porch and talk religion. I can go on for days, and I know what I am talking about.

I would actually enjoy that.

[roamer_1]

By the way... Hitler was a drugged up occultist, crazy as a march hare. I read him as a caution. Don't think I found it riveting.
Same with all  it. There is a reason I rejected all of it.

[roamer_1]

I would actually enjoy that.

There's always sweet tea ready. Porch-sitting is how I roll. 
Not so much anymore.
Partly because no one else feels that way.
Partly because I ran out of fun-tickets building this place... And I ain't got a porch. Just a stoop. 

I'll fix that when I can. 

[LMAO]

So……

we never did get a clear answer from his supporters whether or not they would support Trump using the government as a tool for retribution or punishing hostile media

Most people would respond with a resounding no. They’re inability or refusal to answer answers the question.

[LMAO]

REMEMBER: What y'all are putting together in this presidency will be available for the next one.

Understand that... And be careful what you wish for.

MAGAs mindset is in the short term. They don’t think long term. Anyone could have predicted that shutting down the economy for months on end and printing trillions of dollars and throwing it into the economy would lead to inflation at some point. But we were told here even  that not going along with that was not an option because it would make Democrats mad and it might not help with Donald Trump’s reelection.

Social Security is in desperate need of some kind of reforming because we are running out of money to pay for it. The MAGA response is not to do anything about it and attack those who are willing to take on the issue. We also have an unsustainable debt that will, not might, have an impact on the dollar and people’s standard of living. The MAGA response is that there are more important things to worry about for now

The MAGA slogan should be “I want my money and I want it now!!!”

That’s why Donald Trump is promising them checks like baby bonuses.

[240B]

I HAVE NEVER READ 'MEIN KAMPF' (i actually have read it)
But still, the whole exterminate the Jews thing ... half of Trump's family are Jewish
Hitler himself was a short dark haired, dark eyes gypsy.
So ... the whole Trump = antisemitism = anti-Asian = anti-Black =
These are the people who support Trump the most.

[roamer_1]

MAGAs mindset is in the short term. They don’t think long term. Anyone could have predicted that shutting down the economy for months on end and printing trillions of dollars and throwing it into the economy would lead to inflation at some point. But we were told here even  that not going along with that was not an option because it would make Democrats mad and it might not help with Donald Trump’s reelection.

Social Security is in desperate need of some kind of reforming because we are running out of money to pay for it. The MAGA response is not to do anything about it and attack those who are willing to take on the issue. We also have an unsustainable debt that will, not might, have an impact on the dollar and people’s standard of living. The MAGA response is that there are more important things to worry about for now

The MAGA slogan should be “I want my money and I want it now!!!”

That’s why Donald Trump is promising them checks like baby bonuses.

Worse than that. With no principles to guide them, it's hard telling which ways it will blow out.

As an example, The Cristian Right, bless their heart, has a strong penchant for 'following the Man', and lean hard into using government for 'Christian Charity'

A say, Huckabee presidential ascendance, you can bet those maladies attend.,. But Tumpy and the gang... It's hard telling... He can be for something today, and against it tomorrow.

Spin the Wheel, ladies and gents. Place your bets... Round and round she goes.,.

[LMAO]

Worse than that. With no principles to guide them, it's hard telling which ways it will blow out.

As an example, The Cristian Right, bless their heart, has a strong penchant for 'following the Man', and lean hard into using government for 'Christian Charity'

A say, Huckabee presidential ascendance, you can bet those maladies attend.,. But Tumpy and the gang... It's hard telling... He can be for something today, and against it tomorrow.

Spin the Wheel, ladies and gents. Place your bets... Round and round she goes.,.

They are for or against whatever Trump is for or against

No more complicated than that.

[240B]

They are for or against whatever Trump is for or against

No more complicated than that.

There is no greater fool than the fool who does not know.
Stupid people live a blessed life. Because stupid people do not know that they are stupid.

[LMAO]

There is no greater fool than the fool who does not know.
Stupid people live a blessed life. Because stupid people do not know that they are stupid.

lol…

You haven’t read through this thread have you?

We can’t even get a straight yes or no answer from his most devoted supporters if they would be OK with Donald Trump using the power of the federal government to investigate hostile to him media outlets.  A threat  that I know for a fact they would vehemently oppose if it was a Democrat issuing the same threat to conservative media outlets

But they’re either supportive of it, or indifferent to his threat because it’s Donald Trump making it

We see the same reaction from many of them when it comes to his outrageous and unaffordable spending proposals. Or when you bring up the fact that more was added on to our national debt than any other president before him, in the shortest amount of time. If it comes from Donald Trump, it’s all good. They carve out exceptions for Donald Trump that they would not carve out for other Republicans and especially Democrats.

So I standby my assessment of his most devoted supporters. It is not a blanket statement I apply to everybody who votes for Donald Trump for whatever reason and it may not apply to you.


But there is a significant number of his supporters that my assessment does  apply to.

[DCPatriot]

The biggest reason I don't believe Trump was trying to quote Hitler is because he's ignorant.  I don't believe he reads enough to know that Hitler ever said that.

And no, I don't think Trump is a Hitler, or a wannabe Hitler.  But I do think his colossal ignorance and lack of discipline makes him a ridiculously easy target, and it's that colossal ignorance and lack of discipline itself that is the real problem I have with the guy.  So the verbal mistakes are more of a symptom than the real problem themselves, although they obviously are a political problem for him too.

Is that you, Kamala??  What have you done with the Major?

[240B]

lol…

You haven’t read through this thread have you?

We can’t even get a straight yes or no answer from his most devoted supporters if they would be OK with Donald Trump using the power of the federal government to investigate hostile to him media outlets.  A threat  that I know for a fact they would vehemently oppose if it was a Democrat issuing the same threat to conservative media outlets

But they’re either supportive of it, or indifferent to his threat because it’s Donald Trump making it

We see the same reaction from many of them when it comes to his outrageous and unaffordable spending proposals. Or when you bring up the fact that more was added on to our national debt than any other president before him, and the short amount of time. If it comes from Donald Trump, it’s all good

So I standby my assessment of his most devoted supporters. It is not a blanket statement I apply to everybody who votes for Donald Trump for whatever reason. But there is a significant number of his supporters that my assessment does  apply to.

verstehen
Du und ich sind einzigartig

[cato potatoe]

By the way... Hitler was a drugged up occultist, crazy as a march hare. I read him as a caution. Don't think I found it riveting.
Same with all  it. There is a reason I rejected all of it.

Mein Kampf is a tough read.  A struggle, you might say.  Hitler did not have a ghost writer, and most of the rambling would only have appealed to people immersed in german politics of the 1920s. 

If Trump ever decided to read a book, I doubt he would start with that one.  The "blood and soil" rhetoric leads me to conclude that he surrounds himself with some interesting characters.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Social Security is in desperate need of some kind of reforming because we are running out of money to pay for it. The MAGA response is not to do anything about it and attack those who are willing to take on the issue. We also have an unsustainable debt that will, not might, have an impact on the dollar and people’s standard of living. The MAGA response is that there are more important things to worry about for now

Actually, the MAGA response is: Reignite the economy.  As Trump has said, "we're sitting on liquid gold".  Resume drilling,  reassert our energy independence and position as the top exporter of energy in the world.  Kaching!  Restart fair trade and resume rebuilding American based manufacturing.  Kaching!  Become the master of our own supply chain.  Kaching!  Resume the reduction of government regulations and taxes.  Kaching! 

There are ways for the economy to grow, the debt to be reduced AND for grandma to eat.  It will take skill, experience and power -- all missing from the anti-Trump wheelhouse. 

[Right_in_Virginia]

Is that you, Kamala??  What have you done with the Major?