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 Biden to host Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at White House Tuesday
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By Kevin Liptak, CNN

Updated 4:11 PM EST, Sun December 10, 2023

 

President Joe Biden will host Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at the White House Tuesday as discussions on a Ukraine aid deal remain stalled in Congress.

The visit, which the White House announced Sunday, is Zelensky’s second visit to Washington since the war in Ukraine began. He last visited in September.

Zelensky’s visit comes at a critical moment in congressional negotiations for emergency aid to Ukraine. Congress appears no closer to a deal tying immigration and border policy changes to the emergency aid package that will provide funding for Ukraine and Israel before lawmakers leave town for the holidays.

The Ukrainian president was also invited to speak at an all-senators meeting Tuesday morning by Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Republican Leader Mitch McConnell, a Senate leadership aide said. House Speaker Mike Johnson will meet with Zelensky too, his office said in a statement.

The White House meeting is meant to “underscore the United States’ unshakeable commitment to supporting the people of Ukraine as they defend themselves against Russia’s brutal invasion,” press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said in a statement.

“As Russia ramps up its missile and drone strikes against Ukraine, the leaders will discuss Ukraine’s urgent needs and the vital importance of the United States’ continued support at this critical moment,” she said.

The pair will discuss “further defense cooperation” in a series of meetings Tuesday, the office of the Ukrainian presidency said in a statement Sunday.

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In the midst of a historic border crisis, Zelensky will come to Washington and demand that the Congress care more about his border than our own.
4:28 PM · Dec 10, 2023


Yep, pretty much.
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In the midst of a historic border crisis, Zelensky will come to Washington and demand that the Congress care more about his border than our own.
4:28 PM · Dec 10, 2023


Yep, pretty much.

This isn't the first time that Z has come to the U.S. and made demands.

With the money that has been thrown to Ukraine, we could have built a wall, secured our borders and helped out Z.  Something just isn't right.  :whistle:
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This isn't the first time that Z has come to the U.S. and made demands.

What demands is he making?
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Hoodat wonders:
"What demands is he making?"

Is the check made out yet...?

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Again, what demands is he making?
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Again, what demands is he making?
He won't be at the White House until Tuesday. What demands do you believe he'll make?
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He won't be at the White House until Tuesday. What demands do you believe he'll make?

I don't.
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Joe Biden and Speaker Johnson to Meet Volodymyr Zelensky at White House Tuesday Amid Push for Increased Congressional Aid for Ukraine
by Jim Hᴏft Dec. 10, 2023 3:20 pm

Joe Biden is set to host Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy at the White House this coming Tuesday.

The meeting, announced by the White House on Sunday, marks Zelenskyy’s second trip to the U.S. capital since the Russia-Ukraine war.

“President Biden has invited President Volodymyr Zelenskyy of Ukraine to the White House for a meeting on Tuesday, December 12 to underscore the United States’ unshakeable commitment to supporting the people of Ukraine as they defend themselves against Russia’s brutal invasion,” Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said in a statement.

“As Russia ramps up its missile and drone strikes against Ukraine, the leaders will discuss Ukraine’s urgent needs and the vital importance of the United States’ continued support at this critical moment,” she added.

Raj Shah, the Deputy Chief of Communications for Speaker Johnson, has announced that Speaker Johnson is scheduled to meet with Volodymyr Zelensky at the U.S. Capitol on Tuesday.

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Z has gone before Congress stating and insisting (perhaps would be a better word) that if he didn't get more funding he wouldn't be able to win against Russia. This isn't his first plea for more $$$.

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Re: Biden to host Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at White House Tuesday
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2023, 12:06:31 am »
Z has gone before Congress stating and insisting (perhaps would be a better word) that if he didn't get more funding he wouldn't be able to win against Russia. This isn't his first plea for more $$$.

Uh, no.  Zelenskiy went before Congress stating that if he didn't get more weapons, he wouldn't be able to win against Russia.  Big difference.
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Re: Biden to host Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at White House Tuesday
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2023, 12:56:27 am »
Secure America's southern border before you ask us to pay to secure Ukraine's eastern border.
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Re: Biden to host Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at White House Tuesday
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2023, 02:50:17 pm »
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With Zelensky coming to DC this week to ask for more money, I will continue to vote AGAINST sending your tax $$ to corrupt oligarchs in Ukraine for a proxy war that could have ended in '22.

A peace deal was on the table that 🇺🇦 and 🇷🇺 were both ready to sign, but Biden said NO.
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Re: Biden to host Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at White House Tuesday
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2023, 03:05:21 pm »
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Was it a "peace deal" or a "piece of Ukraine" deal?
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Re: Biden to host Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at White House Tuesday
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2023, 06:22:41 pm »
The White House meeting is meant to “underscore the United States’ unshakeable commitment to supporting the people of Ukraine as they defend themselves against Russia’s brutal invasion,” press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said in a statement.


Why haven't we given the Ukrainians the ability to control the skies and provided F-16's as well as Warthogs. Instead we've sent cash over there some of which has been used for weaponry, but who knows where the rest of it has gone. Now everyone is so disgusted with the lack of transparency they won't get another dime.

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Re: Biden to host Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at White House Tuesday
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2023, 06:34:01 pm »
Ukraine cannot win a major offensive without establishing parity or superiority in the air.

The decision to not allow Poland and other former Warsaw Pact nations to send their Soviet-era / Russian jets to Ukraine made this a protracted war of attrition that Ukraine will not win.

In the meantime, Russia's friends will stir up trouble in other parts of the world - Korean Peninsula (North Korea), South China Sea (PRC of China), Middle East (Iran), Latin America (Venezuela), etc. to bleed the West from providing more support for Ukraine.

Joe Biden's National Security and State Department teams are duds.  Jake Sullivan is wrong about everything.
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Re: Biden to host Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at White House Tuesday
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2023, 06:59:41 pm »
Ukraine cannot win a major offensive without establishing parity or superiority in the air.

The decision to not allow Poland and other former Warsaw Pact nations to send their Soviet-era / Russian jets to Ukraine made this a protracted war of attrition that Ukraine will not win.

In the meantime, Russia's friends will stir up trouble in other parts of the world - Korean Peninsula (North Korea), South China Sea (PRC of China), Middle East (Iran), Latin America (Venezuela), etc. to bleed the West from providing more support for Ukraine.

Joe Biden's National Security and State Department teams are duds.  Jake Sullivan is wrong about everything.

I agree, so why give Ukraine just enough to keep fighting but not enough to push the invaders back to the agreed 1991 borders?

I think it's a combination of things and none of them are good; money laundering, repayment to Zelensky for keeping his mouth shut, keeping our defense contractors happy, and destroying Russia demographically and economically and finally just plain old incompetence.



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Re: Biden to host Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at White House Tuesday
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2023, 07:03:12 pm »

A peace deal was on the table that 🇺🇦 and 🇷🇺 were both ready to sign, but Biden said NO.


That's a Russian propagated lie.  Miller is an idiot for believing it.
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Re: Biden to host Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at White House Tuesday
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2023, 07:04:03 pm »
They should ask him about this:

And Carlson's a liar too...on Putin's payroll.
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Re: Biden to host Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at White House Tuesday
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2023, 07:05:27 pm »
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In the midst of a historic border crisis, Zelensky will come to Washington and demand that the Congress care more about his border than our own.
4:28 PM · Dec 10, 2023

I've had enough of Vance too.  He's a moron.
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Re: Biden to host Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at White House Tuesday
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2023, 07:55:27 pm »
I've had enough of Vance too.  He's a moron.
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Senator Vance: Ukraine Should Cede ‘Some Territory’ to ‘Stop the Killing.’

Republican Senator J.D. Vance argued Sunday that Ukraine should cede “some territory” to Russia in order to end the war. He explained that attempting to drive Russia back to Ukraine’s 1991 borders was unrealistic. He said Joe Biden must define tangible objectives if he wants Congress to approve $61 billion in aid.

“What’s in America’s best interest is to accept Ukraine is going to have to cede some territory to the Russians, and we need to bring this war to a close,” Vance said. “But when I think about the great human tragedy here, hundreds of thousands of Eastern Europeans innocent have been killed in this conflict… The thing that’s in our interest and in theirs is to stop the killing.” ...
https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/12/11/senator-vance-ukraine-should-cede-some-territory-to-stop-the-killing/
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Re: Biden to host Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at White House Tuesday
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2023, 08:21:44 pm »

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Ohio,

Please give back Connecticut's ceded territory.  Connecticut changed its mind.

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Re: Biden to host Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at White House Tuesday
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2023, 08:49:13 pm »
Pretty sure you won't like this, then...

Yeah, we all know that appeasement and land for peace always works...



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Re: Biden to host Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at White House Tuesday
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2023, 11:09:00 pm »
Ohio,

Please give back Connecticut's ceded territory.  Connecticut changed its mind.

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