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Joe Biden’s Backstabbing Dents Israeli Morale

Joel B. Pollak 13 Dec 2023

President Joe Biden might have thought he was only talking to a small group of wealthy donors. But his disparaging comments, published Tuesday, about Israel and the Israeli government have dented national morale — and cheered Israel’s enemies.

Biden claimed, without evidence, that Israel practices “indiscriminate bombing”; that Israel is losing support around the world; and that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will fail unless he boots democratically-elected right-wing parties out of his cabinet.

Two factors made Biden’s comments even worse.

One was that he was speaking to an ostensibly pro-Israel group of donors, led by Lee Rosenberg, a former chair of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC).

Rosenberg was tapped for the job during the Obama years, when it was hoped that he could use his shared Chicago ties with Barack Obama to moderate some of Obama’s left-wing policies. That hope was dashed as Obama grew hostile to Israel, and began cozying up to the Iranian regime.

The other factor is that Israel has been absorbing a series of bad-news stories lately, most of all about the deaths of hostages in Hamas custody, and about the deaths of elite soldiers who are fighting in Gaza to free them.

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https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/12/13/joe-bidens-backstabbing-dents-israeli-morale/

[catfish1957]

I know I came to the conclusion long ago, that it is impossible to F up a presidency this badly, but the bar by now should be near the earth's core.

[mystery-ak]

 Israeli army has begun pumping seawater into Hamas tunnels in Gaza: report
By Social Links for Yaron Steinbuch
Published Dec. 13, 2023, 7:22 a.m. ET

Israel has begun pumping seawater into Hamas’ tunnels in Gaza as part of the military’s plan to destroy the terror group’s vast underground network, where many of the hostages are still believed to be held, according to a report.

The water from the Mediterranean is one of several measures the Israel Defense Forces is using to clear and decimate the miles of intertwined tunnels, the Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday, citing unnamed US officials.

Earlier this month, the outlet reported that the tactic was under “consideration” after the IDF had built at least five pumps about a mile north of the Al-Shati refugee camp that could be used to draw the seawater to flush out the tunnels.

The flooding began around the time Israel added two more pumps to the five and the IDF conducted some initial tests, US officials told the Journal.

The pumping is in an early stage and its effectiveness is still being studied, the Journal reported, adding that other tactics include airstrikes, liquid explosives, and the dispatch of dogs, drones and robots into the tunnels.

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https://nypost.com/2023/12/13/news/israeli-army-begins-pumping-seawater-into-hamas-tunnels-report/

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 Ten Israeli soldiers aged 19 to 35, including a high-ranking battalion commander, are killed and three injured in worst loss of life for the IDF in a single incident since Gaza war broke out

    Servicemen were killed in a battle in the Shajaiya neighbourhood of Gaza City

By Kamal Sultan For Mailonline

Published: 00:50 EST, 13 December 2023 | Updated: 05:43 EST, 13 December 2023

Ten Israeli soldiers, including a high-ranking official, were killed while fighting Hamas forces in the Gaza strip yesterday.

Lieutenant Colonel Tomer Grinberg, 35, Major Roei Meldasi, 23, Major Moshe Avram Bar-On, 23, Sergeant Achia Daskal, 19, Captain Liel Hayo, 22, Major Ben Shelly, 26, Major Rom Hecht, 20, Sergeant Oriya Yaakov, 19, Eran Aloni, 19, and Itzhak Ben Basat, 24, died amid battles in Gaza City's Shajaiya neighbourhood.

Several of the servicemen were killed by an explosive device, while the remaining soldiers were gunned down by Hamas fighters after being cut off from the rest of their troop, according to Israeli media.

It marks the worst loss of life in a single day for the Israeli Defense Forces since they launched their operation in response to Hamas' ruthless October 7 attacks.

At least 115 Israeli soldiers have died since ground operations began in Gaza in late October.

But 18,412 Palestinians have been killed during the Israeli attacks since the war began, according to the Gaza Health Ministry.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12858091/israeli-soldiers-killed-gaza-idf-hamas.html

[Wingnut]

But 18,412 Palestinians have been killed during the Israeli attacks since the war began, according to the Gaza Health Ministry.

Hey Rocky watch me pull a number of deaths out of my hat>

[240B]

Hey Rocky watch me pull a number of deaths out of my hat>

Exactly. Also, all of them died because of Hamas, not Israel.
Israel does not want to be there. Israel is only there because Hamas forced Israel to defend itself. Israel would leave today if they thought they would be safe.

[mystery-ak]

WATCH: Kirby Tries to Clean Up Biden’s Claim of ‘Indiscriminate Bombing’

White House national security aide John Kirby tried to clean up President Joe Biden’s claim Tuesday that Israel has engaged in “indiscriminate bombing,” telling reporters Wednesday that Biden was expressing concern about civilian casualties in general.

Joel B. Pollak 13 Dec 2023

White House national security aide John Kirby tried to clean up President Joe Biden’s claim Tuesday that Israel has engaged in “indiscriminate bombing,” telling reporters Wednesday that Biden was expressing concern about civilian casualties in general.

Kirby faced a barrage of questions from journalists about Biden’s statement, made to wealthy donors behind closed doors in Washington, DC, just hours after he had expressed public solidarity with Israel at the annual White House Hanukkah party.

Biden’s claim was picked up immediately by anti-Israel groups and foreign media. Israel has pushed back hard against Biden’s claim, telling reporters in at least two press conferences that it takes every possible step to avoid Palestinian civilian casualties.

Journalists asked Kirby whether, if Biden believed that Israel engaged in “indiscriminate bombing,” the U.S. would apply new restrictions on the use of American military aid, or whether the administration believed Israel had engaged in war crimes.

Kirby tried to defuse the inquiries, claiming that Biden had simply been worried about the effect of civilian casualties on Israel’s image in the world. He added that the administration continued to urge Israel to be careful about Palestinian civilians.

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https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/12/13/watch-kirby-tries-to-clean-up-bidens-claim-of-indiscriminate-bombing/

[mystery-ak]

Blinken ‘Welcomes’ Iraq PM’s Vow to Do Something About U.S. Embassy Attack

Secretary of State Antony Blinken “welcomed” remarks by the Prime Minister of Iraq that he would investigate an attack on the U.S. embassy.

Sudani made the remarks during a phone call with Blinken on Tuesday.

Terrorists believed to be aligned with and funded by the government of Iran launched a rocket attack on Baghdad’s “Green Zone,” the fortified area where the American embassy and other critical government buildings are located, on Friday. It was the first such attack on the embassy in Baghdad since October 7, when the Sunni jihadist organization Hamas launched an unprecedented assault on Israel, killing an estimated 1,200 people, abducting around 240 others, and engaging in wanton acts of torture, gang rape, murder of children, and desecration of the dead.

Hamas is closely affiliated with Iran, the world’s preeminent state sponsor of terrorism. According to a State Department report, Hamas and another regional terrorist group, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, receive around $100 million a year from Tehran’s coffers. Other terrorist groups in Iran’s orbit – prominently Yemen’s Ansar Allah, or the Houthi movement, which has launched a campaign to interfere with international trade by attacking ships they believe are bound for Israel – Islamic Jihad, the Lebanese Hezbollah, and a collection of Iran-backed Iran groups identifying as the “Islamic Resistance in Iraq” have also engaged in activities meant to harm Israel or its top international ally, the United States.

The United States has faced at least 92 attacks in Iraq and Syria at the hand of jihadist groups sympathetic to Hamas since October 17, which injured at least 66 American service personnel, according to the Kurdish outlet Rudaw.

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https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/12/13/blinken-welcomes-iraq-pm-vow-do-something-about-u-s-embassy-attack/

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Netanyahu: ‘We Will Destroy Hamas’ Regardless of ‘International Pressures’

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told soldiers on Wednesday that Israel “will destroy Hamas” regardless of “international pressures.”

Netanyahu made his comments in conversation with Israel Defense Forces (IDF) soldiers, a day after the United Nations General Assembly passed a non-binding resolution demanding a ceasefire in Gaza, and after U.S. President Joe Biden criticized Israel for what he called, without evidence, “indiscriminate bombing.”

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https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/12/13/netanyahu-we-will-destroy-hamas-regardless-of-international-pressures/

[mystery-ak]

Hamas Thanks United Nations; Best Day for Terror Group Since October 7

Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh, who has become a billionaire while living in comfortable exile, thanked the United Nations (UN) on Wednesday for a General Assembly vote that demanded a ceasefire in Gaza, without condemning the terrorist organization.

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https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/12/13/hamas-thanks-united-nations-best-day-for-terror-group-since-october-7/

[libertybele]

Hamas Thanks United Nations; Best Day for Terror Group Since October 7

Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh, who has become a billionaire while living in comfortable exile, thanked the United Nations (UN) on Wednesday for a General Assembly vote that demanded a ceasefire in Gaza, without condemning the terrorist organization.

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https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/12/13/hamas-thanks-united-nations-best-day-for-terror-group-since-october-7/

Hamas thanking the U.N. speaks volumes as to the worth of the U.N.  The U.S. needs to get out of the U.N. now!  If Hamas is not a terrorist organization then who is???  I wonder what the U.N.'s definition of a terrorist organization is. What are the qualifications needed to be considered a terrorist organization -- one that only fits their playbook as needed to fulfill their agenda?

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https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1735016963347193920

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Hamas killers are carrying children and using them as literal human shields during gun battles, Israel claims, as IDF release footage of terrorists beating Gaza civilians and stealing aid

By ANDY JEHRING ON PALMACHIM AIRBASE, ISRAEL
PUBLISHED: 09:36 EST, 13 December 2023

• EXCLUSIVE - The Daily Mail has spoken to three IDF drone operators deployed in Gaza mission
• One of the pilots witnessed the horrors of October 7 from her drone monitor

Hamas terrorists have been caught breaking every rule of engagement in the book from clutching children as they shoot, dressing as women and firing from mosques, Israeli drone pilots have claimed.

As the civilian death toll mounts, UAV operators have given a unique insight into the atrocities they are witnessing on the ground.

Extremists have learnt to exploit their strict rules of engagement with barbaric cynicism leaving IDF forces with impossible decisions.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12859061/Hamas-killers-carrying-children-using-literal-human-shields-gun-battles-stealing-aid.html

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https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1735090027367944266

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https://twitter.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/1735063508625101237

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/1734965506094903800

[DCPatriot]

h ttps://twitter.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/1735063508625101237

Have to ask...throw this out there...

Do you think HAMAS streamed the deaths on video, in a negotiation attempt/ultimatum? 

[Hoodat]

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IDF casualties spike up after Israel-Hamas ceasefire, paying a higher price for its gains on the battleground

'You need to ask yourself whether the price is worth it, if every target is justifying the heavy price of human life we pay,' says @HabithonistimEn
Or Yissachar

Israel is paying a higher price BECAUSE OF the cease fire.  Hamas was on the brink of capitulation.  But the cease fire allowed them to bring in more supplies, improve their defensive positions, redeploy militants to block the advances they didn't expect, and set up ambushes.  The blood of these Israeli deaths is on the hands of every idiot who called for a time-out so Hamas could regroup.

[libertybele]

Israel is paying a higher price BECAUSE OF the cease fire.  Hamas was on the brink of capitulation.  But the cease fire allowed them to bring in more supplies, improve their defensive positions, redeploy militants to block the advances they didn't expect, and set up ambushes.  The blood of these Israeli deaths is on the hands of every idiot who called for a time-out so Hamas could regroup.

Agreed...not only Israel, but the western world including the U.S. is now more in the crosshairs as well ... we cannot forget that

[Elderberry]

U.S. delaying sale of M16 rifles to Israel over settler violence

AXIOS by Barak Ravid 12/13/2023

The Biden administration is again holding up the licenses for selling more than 20,000 U.S.-made rifles to Israel over concerns about attacks by extremist Israeli settlers against Palestinian civilians in the occupied West Bank, two U.S. officials told Axios.
Why it matters: The decision to send the rifle deal for another review by the State Department signals the Biden administration remains concerned the Israeli government isn't doing enough to curb violence by extremist settlers.

Catch up quick: Israel in the first week of the war requested the rifles for civilian initial response teams in Israeli villages close to the borders with Gaza, Lebanon and Syria. Those teams of local residents receive weapons and training from the Israeli police in order to be first responders in case of a terror attack.

•   The Israeli request was treated with caution by the Biden administration because of concerns Itamar Ben Gvir, the ultra-nationalist minister of national security who oversees the police, would distribute the rifles to extremist settlers in the West Bank, according to U.S. officials.

•   The Biden administration and Congress approved the export licenses for U.S. defense companies only after being assured the weapons wouldn't go to civilian teams in Jewish settlements.

More: https://www.axios.com/2023/12/13/us-israel-rifle-sale-delay-west-bank-violence

[mountaineer]

attacks by extremist Israeli settlers against Palestinian civilians in the occupied West Bank

Sometimes known as self-defense.

[mystery-ak]

Scoop: U.S. delaying sale of M16 rifles to Israel over settler violence
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    Barak Ravid

The Biden administration is again holding up the licenses for selling more than 20,000 U.S.-made rifles to Israel over concerns about attacks by extremist Israeli settlers against Palestinian civilians in the occupied West Bank, two U.S. officials told Axios.

Why it matters: The decision to send the rifle deal for another review by the State Department signals the Biden administration remains concerned the Israeli government isn't doing enough to curb violence by extremist settlers.

Catch up quick: Israel in the first week of the war requested the rifles for civilian initial response teams in Israeli villages close to the borders with Gaza, Lebanon and Syria. Those teams of local residents receive weapons and training from the Israeli police in order to be first responders in case of a terror attack.

    The Israeli request was treated with caution by the Biden administration because of concerns Itamar Ben Gvir, the ultra-nationalist minister of national security who oversees the police, would distribute the rifles to extremist settlers in the West Bank, according to U.S. officials.
    The Biden administration and Congress approved the export licenses for U.S. defense companies only after being assured the weapons wouldn't go to civilian teams in Jewish settlements.

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https://www.axios.com/2023/12/13/us-israel-rifle-sale-delay-west-bank-violence

[DCPatriot]

Scoop: U.S. delaying sale of M16 rifles to Israel over settler violence
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    Barak Ravid

The Biden administration is again holding up the licenses for selling more than 20,000 U.S.-made rifles to Israel over concerns about attacks by extremist Israeli settlers against Palestinian civilians in the occupied West Bank, two U.S. officials told Axios.

Why it matters: The decision to send the rifle deal for another review by the State Department signals the Biden administration remains concerned the Israeli government isn't doing enough to curb violence by extremist settlers.

Catch up quick: Israel in the first week of the war requested the rifles for civilian initial response teams in Israeli villages close to the borders with Gaza, Lebanon and Syria. Those teams of local residents receive weapons and training from the Israeli police in order to be first responders in case of a terror attack.

    The Israeli request was treated with caution by the Biden administration because of concerns Itamar Ben Gvir, the ultra-nationalist minister of national security who oversees the police, would distribute the rifles to extremist settlers in the West Bank, according to U.S. officials.
    The Biden administration and Congress approved the export licenses for U.S. defense companies only after being assured the weapons wouldn't go to civilian teams in Jewish settlements.

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https://www.axios.com/2023/12/13/us-israel-rifle-sale-delay-west-bank-violence

LOL!  As if the Israeli military doesn't already have the where with all to manufacture

[Wingnut]

LOL!  As if the Israeli military doesn't already have the where with all to manufacture

Or use the ones the found in those Hamas honeyholes.

[DCPatriot]

Or use the ones the found in those Hamas honeyholes.

LOL!  Forgot about Kabul.