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« Reply #150 on: November 28, 2023, 12:38:48 pm »
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Terminating Gaza Terror Threat

Some Hamas terrorists & weapons will likely survive the Gaza war. Israel’s strategic mission is to terminate the terror threat posed by Gaza, in 4 steps, as follows:

1. Demolish Hamas strength: Eliminate numerous terrorists, destroy weapons & tunnels. Gaza's military power will be severely degraded.

2. Gaza buffer zone: Terrorists will no longer be able to freely access the border, collect intel, plant bombs

3. Stronger defenses: Israel will bolster forces & military hardware near Gaza. Intel doctrine will change. Invading Israel will be harder.

4. Ongoing action: lDF will bomb or raid emerging terror sites, preventing Hamas from rebuilding & regrouping.

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Gaza terrorists breach ceasefire: Several Israeli soldiers wounded after 3 explosive devices detonated in northern Gaza, shots fired at troops; IDF forces return fire. via @N12News
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Horrors of Hamas captivity: 12-year-old Israeli hostage was beat up by residents after abduction to Gaza, forced to watch videos of 7 October massacre; crying Israeli children were threatened with gun to stop. via @N12News
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1. Demolish Hamas strength: Eliminate numerous terrorists, destroy weapons & tunnels. Gaza's military power will be severely degraded. 2. Gaza buffer zone: Terrorists will no longer be able to freely access the border, collect intel, plant bombs

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3. Stronger defenses: Israel will bolster forces & military hardware near Gaza. Intel doctrine will change. Invading Israel will be harder. 4. Ongoing action: lDF will bomb or raid emerging terror sites, preventing Hamas from rebuilding & regrouping.
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« Reply #154 on: November 28, 2023, 02:07:20 pm »
 US warns Israel over next phase of military operation into southern Gaza
by Laura Kelly - 11/28/23 5:00 AM ET

The Biden administration is issuing urgent warnings to Israel over the next phase of its military operation in Gaza, saying a campaign in the south of the strip must not be carried out to the same level of destruction as took place in the north of the territory.

The administration is proposing that Israel agrees to “areas of deconfliction,” to include United Nations facilities and shelters that would not be subject to active military fighting, a senior administration official said in a call with reporters Monday night.

“You cannot have the sort of scale of displacement that took place in the north, replicated in the south,” the official said, as part of a call discussing efforts to scale up humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip.

The majority of the population of Gaza, more than 2 million people, are now concentrated in the center and south of the strip. The entire enclave is a mere 141 square miles.

They were displaced by Israel’s assault against Hamas in the north — by air and a ground incursion — carried out in response to the group’s unprecedented terrorist attack against Israel on Oct. 7.

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« Reply #155 on: November 28, 2023, 02:10:33 pm »
Elon Musk Meets With Benjamin Netanyahu In Israel: “It is one thing to kill civilians accidentally, it is another to revel in the killing of civilians. It’s just evil.”

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Netanyahu and Musk “agreed on the clear lesson — there is no chance for peace or security as long as Hamas exists.”

Elon Musk has been under fire of late for supposed antisemitic comments (that weren’t) that outraged the left . . . who are currently holding pro-Hamas rallies, singing songs about the decimation of Israel and the genocide of Jews the world over, cheering the rape and slaughter of defenseless Jewish women and children, and hunting down, even killing, Jews on American soil. So yeah, not buying their faux outrage over fake claims of Musk’s supposed antisemitism.

If there were any doubt, however, Musk’s trip to Israel and long meeting with Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu put it to rest.

The ever-fabulous Ed Morrissey reports:

    Elon Musk made a fact-finding trip to Israel this weekend after taking criticism for a tweet response that critics called anti-Semitic, and ended up discovering the obvious. After touring some of the areas attacked on October 7, the self-professed Chief Twit had a one-on-one with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to discuss the implications of the massacres in southern Israel.

    They agreed on the clear lesson — there is no chance for peace or security as long as Hamas exists.

    . . . . However, Netanyahu goes much farther than that in the clip above of the X/Spaces/Live Chat event; Netanyahu thinks the Gazans can be rehabilitated from their insane levels of Jew-hatred as well. He credits the governments involved in the Abraham Accords for deep cultural changes that allow for old hatreds to be suppressed and eventually ended. Netanyahu foresees their assistance in helping to transform Gaza, especially its mosques and schools, similar to what took place in Germany and Japan after World War II.

Musk appears to be genuinely moved by his visit to one of the sites of the October 7th massacre and by his viewing of Hamas tapes as they gleefully raped, murdered, and terrorized innocent citizens who had been just going about their lives.

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 8...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #156 on: November 28, 2023, 02:18:40 pm »
Elon Musk Meets With Benjamin Netanyahu In Israel: “It is one thing to kill civilians accidentally, it is another to revel in the killing of civilians. It’s just evil.”



A few points to add to that.

(1) Palestians have had plenty of warning to get out during and since.
(2) It is still a hard cold fact that recent polling showed that 75% of Palestenians support Hamas.  In my book they are much an enemy as the Hamas feral animal scum.
(3) Attrocities of this nature and close proximity could not be hidden from view.  They are complicit as far as I am concerned.

In the old days, they used call this collateral damage.  From my POV, if you want do avoid getting shot, you don't get at near the line of site of the gun.  i.e. my sympathy level for them, is pretty darned low.

I display the Confederate Battle Flag in honor of my great great great grandfathers who spilled blood at Wilson's Creek and Shiloh.  5 others served in the WBTS with honor too.

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Daughter of critically ill freed hostage tears into Red Cross: ‘She was medically neglected’

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The daughter of elderly Gaza hostage Elma Avraham, who is in critical condition after being released by terrorists yesterday as part of the ongoing hostage deal, holds an impassioned press conference tearing into the Red Cross for failing to take care of her mother.

Speaking from Beersheba’s Soroka Medical Center, where the 84-year-old is hospitalized in life-threatening condition, Tali Amano describes the appalling condition in which Hamas returned Avraham, after failing to provide her with her daily medications for over 50 days.

“My mother didn’t deserve to return like this,” she says. “My mother was medically neglected. The Red Cross refused to bring her her medications. She arrived with a heart rate of 40 bpm and a body temperature of 28 degrees Celsius, on the verge of losing consciousness and injured all over.

“She was abandoned twice — once on October 7, and a second time by all the organizations that should have saved her,” Amano charges.

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« Reply #158 on: November 28, 2023, 02:29:35 pm »
Hamas gives 10-month-old Israeli hostage to separate Palestinian terror group: ‘More psychological torture’

By Social Links for Kenneth Garger
Published Nov. 28, 2023, 2:28 a.m. ET

A 10-month-old Israeli boy — the youngest hostage captured by Hamas — and his family have been handed off to another Palestinian terror group in what one relative decried as “just more psychological torture.”

An Arabic spokesman for the Israel DF, Avichay Adraee, revealed Monday night that the Bibas family — including infant Kfir, his 4-year-old brother, Ariel, and their parents — were being held captive in the southern city of Khan Younis following the disturbing move.

“In Hamas prison, infants under one-year-old who have not seen the light of day for more than 50 days are detained,” Adraee wrote in a post to X.

“Hamas treats them as if they were spoils and sometimes hands them over to other terrorist organizations in the Gaza Strip.

“For example, the Bibas family, the two red-haired children ‘The Reds,’ who were kidnapped from their home in Nir Oz by a member of the Hamas terrorist organization and are being held in the Khan Yunis area by one of the Palestinian factions,” he wrote.



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« Reply #159 on: November 28, 2023, 02:41:32 pm »
Biden is the primary obstacle to Israeli victory

JNS by Caroline B. Glick 11/27/2023

The time has come to discuss the Biden administration’s relationship with Israel. With each passing day, two things become obvious. First, Israel cannot fight the war without U.S. resupply of the Israel Defense Forces. As a consequence, Israel is beholden to the administration’s directives. And second, if Israel follows the Biden administration’s directives, it will lose the war.

Israel’s dependence on the United States was stated bluntly by retired IDF Maj. General Yitzhak Brick in an interview earlier this week.

“All of our missiles, the ammunition, the precision-guided bombs, all the airplanes and bombs, it’s all from the U.S. The minute they turn off the tap, you can’t keep fighting. You have no capability. … Everyone understands that we can’t fight this war without the United States. Period.”

Brick went on to explain that President Joe Biden’s demand that Israel permit “humanitarian aid” to enter Gaza means that he is demanding that Israel keep Hamas fully supplied with food, water and fuel.

His demand that Israel minimize Palestinian civilian casualties endangers IDF soldiers and renders the expansion of the ground offensive into central and southern Gaza, where the bulk of Hamas’s force is now located, almost impossible to carry out. Brick suggested various forms of long-term tunnel warfare and other suggestions for how the IDF may be able to defeat Hamas over time while operating within the constraints that Biden and his top advisors are dictating.

It is hard to judge whether Brick’s suggestions are workable without access to situational intelligence about conditions on the ground in southern Gaza. At a minimum, it is clear that Biden’s preference for the lives of civilians in Gaza over the lives of IDF soldiers on the ground ensures that far more soldiers will be killed in the fighting than would otherwise. Three weeks ago, the administration began demanding that Israel limit (or cancel entirely) its pre-ground battle aerial bombings. Consequently, in the week that preceded this week’s “humanitarian pause,” the IDF’s battle losses were overwhelmingly the consequence of sniper fire from Hamas terrorists hiding in buildings that the air force did not destroy before the battles, due to U.S. pressure.

Then there is the issue of the hostages. Israel is duty-bound to the hostages, their families and Israeli society as a whole to rescue them. There are two ways to do this. Israel can bow to Hamas’s demands, as it is presently doing by suspending its offensive, and endangering Israel’s soldiers and civilians by permitting Hamas to rebuild and reorganize its forces, and by releasing terrorists from its prisons and retuning them to Jerusalem and Judea and Samaria. Or it can renew its military operation, locate the hostages and rescue them itself. Clearly, the second option is preferable.

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« Reply #160 on: November 28, 2023, 02:42:11 pm »
Father describes how his young daughter Emily Hand survived Hamas captivity

By Clarissa Ward, Brent Swails and Rachel Clarke, CNN

Updated: 9:21 AM EST, Tue November 28, 2023

Source: CNN

Emily Hand had to run from house to house, forced to move by Hamas as Israeli forces attacked Gaza, her father Thomas Hand told CNN.

“That’s terrifying. Being pulled, dragged, pushed … under gunfire probably,” he said on Tuesday.

It’s one of the details that his daughter is slowly sharing of what happened after she was kidnapped on October 7 and taken to Gaza, a place she now calls “the box.”

“She’s coming out slowly, little by little,” Hand said.

“We’ll only know what she really went through as she opens up,” he told CNN. “I want to know so much information … but you have to let them, when they are ready, come out with it.”

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« Reply #161 on: November 28, 2023, 03:04:54 pm »
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Over the last hour, 3 explosive devices were detonated adjacent to IDF troops in 2 different locations in northern Gaza, violating the framework of the operational pause.

In one of the locations, terrorists also opened fire at the troops, who responded with fire. A number of soldiers were lightly injured during the incidents.

IDF troops were located in positions as per the framework of the operational pause.
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« Reply #165 on: November 28, 2023, 04:22:25 pm »
First Medical Reports on Released Hamas Hostages Are in, and They Aren't Good
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The first reports about the medical conditions of the hostages released from Hamas captivity are out, and they aren't good.

The news comes on the heels of several dozen hostages being released as part of a rolling ceasefire agreement between Israel and Hamas. The halt in hostilities is expected to last as long as the terrorist government continues to release those they took captive on October 7th as planned. Israel has vowed to resume military action to destroy Hamas once the ceasefire ends.

As to the condition of the hostages that have been returned, initial reports show signs of starvation and malnutrition.

Hamas is known to possess a vast reserve of food, hoarded by stealing from international aid shipments. That some of the hostages went days without food would suggest that was an active choice made by Hamas, not a result of simply not having enough supply. The terrorist government has attempted to use psychological warfare throughout the war, specifically in relation to the hostages themselves. Some of those who were released hadn't even been told their family members were murdered by Hamas on October 7th.

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« Reply #166 on: November 28, 2023, 04:26:55 pm »
First Medical Reports on Released Hamas Hostages Are in, and They Aren't Good
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The first reports about the medical conditions of the hostages released from Hamas captivity are out, and they aren't good.

The news comes on the heels of several dozen hostages being released as part of a rolling ceasefire agreement between Israel and Hamas. The halt in hostilities is expected to last as long as the terrorist government continues to release those they took captive on October 7th as planned. Israel has vowed to resume military action to destroy Hamas once the ceasefire ends.

As to the condition of the hostages that have been returned, initial reports show signs of starvation and malnutrition.

Hamas is known to possess a vast reserve of food, hoarded by stealing from international aid shipments. That some of the hostages went days without food would suggest that was an active choice made by Hamas, not a result of simply not having enough supply. The terrorist government has attempted to use psychological warfare throughout the war, specifically in relation to the hostages themselves. Some of those who were released hadn't even been told their family members were murdered by Hamas on October 7th.

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What did they expect?

At the actual battlefield level, Hamas are just a bunch of resistance fighters, compared to an organized professional military like IDF

They don't have the facilities, nor the inclination to ensure the health of all the hostages while they are scurrying.
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« Reply #167 on: November 28, 2023, 04:29:06 pm »
Aunt Says Hamas Tortured Israeli Child Hostages, Threatened at Gunpoint

Joel B. Pollak 28 Nov 2023

The aunt of an Israeli child hostage recently freed by Hamas as part of a deal with Israel told French television that the terrorists had beaten the children, forced them to watch videos of atrocities at gunpoint, and threatened them with guns when they cried.

Deborah Cohen, the aunt of Eitan Yahalomi, 12, who is a dual French-Israeli citizen, told French TV outlet BFMTV on Tuesday (translated from French): “Eitan apparently saw horrors over there [in Gaza]. … Hamas forced Eitan to watch a horror film [of October 7], that no one could [bear to] watch … Every time that a child cried over there, they threatened [the child] with a gun to be quiet.” She added that child hostages had been beaten when they arrived in Gaza after being kidnapped by Hamas.

Eitan Yahalomi was abducted during the October 7 terror attack from Kibbutz Nir Oz, along with his father Ohad, who remains a hostage. Nir Oz was one of the hardest hit communities in the attack, with a quarter of the population murdered or kidnapped as hostages. All of the eleven Israeli hostages released in the fourth and final planned release Monday were women and children who were separated from their husbands and fathers, who are still being held as hostages in Gaza by the terrorist organization.

Yahalomi’s account adds to growing evidence that Israeli hostages were abused in captivity. Other accounts have mentioned being deprived of food, water, and medicine, and being unable to see light or use the bathroom.

In addition, reports are beginning to emerge about long-term psychological harm to the child hostages caused by Hamas.


https://twitter.com/AvivaKlompas/status/1729492514665533782

Thomas Hand, the father of nine-year-old Emily Hand, who was thought dead before being confirmed as a hostage and later released, spoke to CNN on Tuesday, saying that his daughter would not speak above a whisper and was crying herself to sleep:

    “It was only when she stepped back that I could see her face was chiseled, like mine, whereas before it was chubby, girly, a young kid face.”

    “The most shocking, disturbing part of meeting her was she was just whispering, you couldn’t hear her. I had to put my ear on her lips,” he says. “She’d been conditioned not to make any noise.”

    …

    “Last night she cried until her face was red and blotchy, she couldn’t stop. She didn’t want any comfort, I guess she’s forgotten how to be comforted,” Hand says. “She went under the covers of the bed, the quilt, covered herself up and quietly cried.”

The Red Cross has not visited the hostages and is being faulted by relatives of the hostages for failing to provide them with needed medicines or to advocate for their welfare.

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« Reply #168 on: November 28, 2023, 04:40:42 pm »
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Three IDF soldiers captured by Hamas terrorists have been confirmed dead, the Times of Israel reports.

Staff Sgt. Tomer Yaakov Ahimas, 20, Sgt. Kiril Brodski, 19, and Sgt. Shaked Dahan, 19, were confirmed to have been killed on October 7.

395 IDF troops have been killed since October 7, out of over 1,200 total Israelis murdered by Hamas terrorists.
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« Reply #169 on: November 28, 2023, 04:54:03 pm »
 Blinken returning to Israel amid hopes for cease-fire extension
by Miranda Nazzaro - 11/28/23 8:55 AM ET

Secretary of State Antony Blinken is expected to return to Israel this week amid hopes for an extended cease-fire.

The trip will mark his third visit to the region since the war between Israel and the militant group Hamas broke out last month.

During the visit, Blinken will “discuss Israel’s right to defend itself consistent with international humanitarian law, as well as continued efforts to secure the release of remaining hostages, protect civilian life during Israel’s operations in Gaza, and accelerate humanitarian assistance to civilians in Gaza,” the State Department said in a statement.

He is also expected to discuss the future of a Palestinian state in post-conflict Gaza and preventing a wider escalation of the conflict, the department added.

Blinken’s visit comes as the first extension of a temporary truce between the groups is set to expire. Israel and Hamas agreed to extend the pause in fighting in Gaza for an additional two days Monday to facilitate the release of additional hostages and prisoners.

Under the initial four-day cease-fire, which was set to expire Monday, Hamas released four rounds of hostages, mostly women and children taken during the group’s Oct. 7 surprise assault in southern Israel.
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« Reply #170 on: November 28, 2023, 04:57:31 pm »
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85-year-old Holocaust survivor kidnapped by Hamas terrorists released from hospital
By Ronny Reyes

Yafa Adar, the 85-year-old grandmother who was seen kidnapped by Hamas in a golf cart, has finally been released from the hospital following her seven weeks in captivity.

Adar, a Holocaust survivor who was among the first group released by Hamas on Friday, was discharged from Israel's Wolfson Medical Center on Tuesday.

She was seen in good health receiving flowers as she shook the hands of the medical staff applauded her quick recovery.

Her family had noted that Adar had lost a significant amount of weight after being kidnapped from Kibbutz Nir Oz on Oct. 7.

Adar, a founder of Kibbutz Nir Oz, is now returning to her family's side as they anxiously await news of her grandson, Tamir, 38, who remains in captivity in Gaza.
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IDF confirms: handover of 10 Israeli hostages to Red Cross in Gaza is underway. via @N12News
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Fifth round of hostages released to Red Cross
By Ronny Reyes

More hostages being held by Hamas have been released to the Red Cross as part of the latest round of an extended truce agreement between the terrorist group and Israel.

The Red Cross is processing the hostages, estimated at 10, on Tuesday morning, with the IDF set to transfer the group to Israel, according to the local N12 News outlet.

The release comes after Qatari officials, who are leading the negotiations between Israel and Hamas, said that 20 hostages would be released in the span of 48 hours.

With Tuesday's release, 79 hostages in Gaza have been freed so far, with Israeli officials estimating that about 160 others remain in captivity.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office added that it had sent a list of 50 Palestinian prisoners that could be freed in exchange for more hostages and an extension of the truce agreement.
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