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Re: BREAKING....Thread 7...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #1000 on: November 22, 2023, 07:13:29 pm »
Israel to soon receive list of names of hostages that will be released: report

The head of Israel's Mossad intelligence agency and an Israel Defense Forces general tasked with handling abductions are visiting Qatar Wednesday to finalize details of how Hamas will release some of the hostages it is holding in the Gaza Strip, a report says.

During the visit, the Israeli delegation will be presented with the full list of hostages who are to be released as part of the Israel-Hamas cease-fire deal, according to Israel's N12 News.

The deal is set to go into effect Thursday morning at 10 a.m. local time.

While hostages are being released from Gaza in exchange for Palestinian prisoners being held by Israel, there will be a 4-day pause in fighting.

That pause could go on longer if Hamas agrees to release more hostages, Israel says.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 7...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 7...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #1006 on: November 22, 2023, 09:34:30 pm »
Hamas victims oppose hostage deal that includes release of terrorists

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Bereaved families and survivors of Hamas's October 7 attack have issued a statement on Tuesday stating their opposition to a hostage deal that would include the release of terrorists in a prisoner exchange.

"We know and warn that any terrorist who is released now will return and cause harm in the future. In the Gilad Shalit deal, the perpetrators of the October 7 massacre were released, and there is no reason why the release of the terrorists should be any different this time."  .  .  .

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 7...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #1008 on: November 22, 2023, 09:42:41 pm »
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Personal items of Israeli hostages found below Shifa hospital; IDF also discovers Hamas command centers, says it will take time to fully explore large underground spaces. via @ynetalerts
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 7...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #1010 on: November 22, 2023, 09:48:30 pm »
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October 7 survivor just told me: “I used to believe in peace, but I don’t anymore. I used to trust Arabs, but I don’t anymore. A guy named Khaleel lived in our village for 30 years. We called him our brother. He slept in our homes. He ended up drawing a map of our homes in the village and gave it to Hamas to slaughter us. How can I trust after this?”
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 7...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #1011 on: November 22, 2023, 10:15:59 pm »
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October 7 survivor just told me: “I used to believe in peace, but I don’t anymore. I used to trust Arabs, but I don’t anymore. A guy named Khaleel lived in our village for 30 years. We called him our brother. He slept in our homes. He ended up drawing a map of our homes in the village and gave it to Hamas to slaughter us. How can I trust after this?”

And there it is in a nutshell...

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 7...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #1012 on: November 22, 2023, 10:21:38 pm »
Biden admin reacts to temporary cease-fire deal between Israel and Hamas, release of hostages

Landon Mion Fox  |  November 22, 2023 5:28am EST


President Biden and other administration officials said Tuesday that they welcomed the temporary cease-fire agreement between Israel and Hamas that includes the release of hostages.

Qatari negotiators helped broker the deal, which included Israel's military agreeing to temporarily stop its airstrikes and ground invasion of Gaza for humanitarian purposes. Additionally, Hamas has agreed to release dozens of hostages in tandem and Israel has agreed to release Palestinian prisoners on a 3-to-1 ratio. Hamas leaders will release one hostage for every three Palestinians that Israel releases from its prisons.

Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris and Secretary of State Antony Blinken all released statements supporting the agreement between Israeli officials and Hamas terrorists amid the ongoing war in the Middle East.  .  .

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-admin-reacts-temporary-cease-fire-deal-between-israel-hamas-release-hostages



Sounds to me like the Biden regime was a party to this 'negotiation' which explains why Israel is coming out on the bad end of it.  If Israel wants to win this, then they need to stop listening to Biden.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 7...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #1013 on: November 22, 2023, 10:38:44 pm »
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Israeli PMO says the war will continue tomorrow as the earliest possible hostage release by Hamas won't be before Friday, this comes amid reports of possible delay in finalization of the deal as Hamas has not yet signed on it.
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« Reply #1016 on: November 22, 2023, 10:46:38 pm »
I'm beginning to doubt this will happen...I just don't think there are a lot of hostages still alive...

especially babies...who is bottle feeding them, changing diapers etc? ..they don't have time to take care of them...

Hope I am wrong for the sake of the families.. :crying:
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 7...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #1017 on: November 22, 2023, 10:50:56 pm »
I'm beginning to doubt this will happen...I just don't think there are a lot of hostages still alive...

especially babies...who is bottle feeding them, changing diapers etc? ..they don't have time to take care of them...

Hope I am wrong for the sake of the families.. :crying:

I agree.  The IDF continues to find dead hostages in the tunnels under the hospital.  There is no guarantee of how many are still left alive.  No point in making a deal for 50 without knowing the fate of the remaining 190.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 7...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #1018 on: November 22, 2023, 11:00:34 pm »


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Exactly, precisely, specifically, what I said would happen days ago.
Hostages are the only power Hamas has against Israel.
Hamas will NEVER let them go.

And this is only the beginning. Hamas will string this "pause" out for as long as possible with delays, feigned confusion, lies, and duplicitous bullshit. This is the standard playbook of negotiating with Arabs. They are the exact opposite of honorable trustworthy people. They always break any promises or agreements they make with the Infidel pigdogs.
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« Reply #1019 on: November 22, 2023, 11:28:08 pm »
Looking at this situation in reverse (since the Left is obsessed with proportionality).
If Israel captured 200 Gazan 'hostages', Hamas would laugh!
Hamas would say, 'Kill Them All!' We will do it for you!

This is the difference.
If Israel took hostages the hostages would be thanking and praising Israel.
They would beg Israel NOT to turn them back over to Hamas.
WE WANT TO STAY!!
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 7...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #1020 on: November 22, 2023, 11:54:39 pm »
I'm torn; yes, I want to see the hostages safely released, but I agree; making a deal with the devil is likely not to turn out well.



I feel the same way. I want the hostages released. If it were my family member being held by these people (and I use that term very loosely) I would be screaming to do whatever was necessary.

But conversely, this "pause" is very likely to get a lot of soldiers killed. And lose advantage.

Israel/Netanyahu is in a no win situation. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. It has enraged me...so I can imagine how they must feel.

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« Reply #1021 on: November 23, 2023, 12:08:52 am »
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The Ceasefire and Hostage Deal between Israel and Hamas has reportedly been Delayed from tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. till at least Friday, but possibly longer.
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« Reply #1023 on: November 23, 2023, 12:30:20 am »
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We have an important question to ask the international community:

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‘It’s not a matter of revenge but of weighing the genuine dangers that could follow’

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