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Re: BREAKING....Thread 7...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #925 on: November 21, 2023, 07:00:38 pm »
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White House considering labeling Houthis a terrorist organization again

White House National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said Tuesday that the Biden administration is considering labeling Yemen’s Houthi rebels a terrorist group again after they recently hijacked an Israeli-linked cargo ship.

The U.S. State Department had been labeling the Houthis as a foreign terrorist organization until February 2021. 

“The seizure of the motor vessel Galaxy Leader is a flagrant violation of international law. Iran is complicit through its material support and its encouragement of the Houthi forces who conducted this seizure. Absolutely unacceptable,” Kirby said Tuesday.

“So in light of recent targeting of civilians by the Houthis and now the piracy of the ship in international waters, we have begun a review of potential terrorist designations and will be considering other options together with our allies and partners as well,” Kirby added.

In 2021, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken, in announcing that the Houthi's status as a foreign terrorist organization was being revoked, said "We have listened to warnings from the United Nations, humanitarian groups, and bipartisan members of Congress, among others, that the designations could have a devastating impact on Yemenis’ access to basic commodities like food and fuel.   

"The revocations are intended to ensure that relevant U.S. policies do not impede assistance to those already suffering what has been called the world’s worst humanitarian crisis," Blinken said at the time.
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« Reply #926 on: November 21, 2023, 07:06:55 pm »
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CNBC Updates
3 HOURS AGO

China’s Xi calls for ‘international peace conference’ to resolve Israel-Hamas war

Chinese President Xi Jinping called for an “international peace conference” aimed at resolving the Israel-Hamas war, state-run Xinhua news agency reported Tuesday.

Addressing a virtual summit of BRICS nations (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa), the Chinese leader also laid out a three-pronged strategy for dealing with the conflict, including urging the release of hostages and an immediate ceasefire in Gaza.

“First, the parties to the conflict must end hostilities and achieve a ceasefire immediately,” he said, according to a translated copy of the statement.

“Second, humanitarian corridors must be kept secure and unimpeded, and more humanitarian assistance should be provided to the population in Gaza,” he continued.

“Third, the international community must act with practical measures to prevent the conflict from spilling over and endangering stability in the Middle East as a whole.”

The comments come as sources told NBC News that a tentative deal had been reached on the release of some hostages held by Hamas in Gaza, with further details expected later Tuesday.

— Karen Gilchrist

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 7...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #927 on: November 21, 2023, 07:11:05 pm »
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White House considering labeling Houthis a terrorist organization again

White House National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said Tuesday that the Biden administration is considering labeling Yemen’s Houthi rebels a terrorist group again after they recently hijacked an Israeli-linked cargo ship.

The U.S. State Department had been labeling the Houthis as a foreign terrorist organization until February 2021. 

“The seizure of the motor vessel Galaxy Leader is a flagrant violation of international law. Iran is complicit through its material support and its encouragement of the Houthi forces who conducted this seizure. Absolutely unacceptable,” Kirby said Tuesday.

“So in light of recent targeting of civilians by the Houthis and now the piracy of the ship in international waters, we have begun a review of potential terrorist designations and will be considering other options together with our allies and partners as well,” Kirby added.

In 2021, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken, in announcing that the Houthi's status as a foreign terrorist organization was being revoked, said "We have listened to warnings from the United Nations, humanitarian groups, and bipartisan members of Congress, among others, that the designations could have a devastating impact on Yemenis’ access to basic commodities like food and fuel.   

"The revocations are intended to ensure that relevant U.S. policies do not impede assistance to those already suffering what has been called the world’s worst humanitarian crisis," Blinken said at the time.
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Joe Biden, master of foreign affairs  :silly: :silly: :silly:
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 7...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #928 on: November 21, 2023, 07:15:46 pm »
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Here's what would immediately happen to any freed Hamas hostages
By Post Staff

The White House revealed Tuesday what would immediately happen to any hostages released by Hamas as part of an expected imminent deal.

National Security Council spokesman John Kirby told reporters that the kidnap victims would be brought to Israel for “immediate medical attention,'' according to CNN.

“We have to assume that many of them need some sort of medical attention and that they’re being held in abhorrent conditions,’’ the Biden official said.

Kirby said the next step would be to get them back to their home countries if other than Israel and reunite them with their families.

In the case of any freed Americans, “The State Department would make sure that they’re looking after them from a consular perspective and providing whatever assistance they might need for follow-on movements,” he said.
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« Reply #929 on: November 21, 2023, 07:16:25 pm »
IDF spokesman says any Hamas cease-fire is a ‘dubious endeavor’

Israel Defense Forces spokesman Lt. Col. Jonathan Conricus told Fox News on Tuesday that any cease-fire with the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas, “based on our previous experience is always a dubious endeavor.”

“We have had soldiers taken hostage – or being abducted in 2014 after a U.N. cease-fire was brokered. So we have to be very careful when it comes to anything that relates to operations on the ground with Hamas,” Conricus said.

“I also know that there are other conditions Hamas is trying to stipulate. What we will and will not do while the hostages are being returned,” he added, noting that any cease-fire or hostage swap deal is “not done until it’s done.”

“Based on our experience with Hamas, I can only believe what I see and I can touch with my own hands,” Conricus declared.

Around 240 hostages are being held by Hamas inside of the Gaza Strip. 

‘We would rather not be in the situation that we are in... but we have to deal with the hand that we have been dealt or play the cards that we have and make the best of the situation,” according to Conricus.

“Nothing says that the war ends after hostages are returned,” Conricus also said. “Hamas needs to be destroyed.”
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« Reply #930 on: November 21, 2023, 07:33:04 pm »
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Exclusive: Susan Sarandon dumped by Hollywood agents over anti-Jewish rant
By Sara Nathan

Oscar winner Susan Sarandon has been dropped by top Hollywood agency UTA after saying that frightened Jews are “getting a taste of how it feels to be Muslim in America,” Page Six can reveal.

The 77-year-old actress has spent the past few weeks raging against Israel and is now under fire for her latest outburst in the wake of the October 7 attack by Hamas.

Sources say several staffers at UTA were extremely hurt by Sarandon’s comments.

A UTA spokesperson told Page Six Tuesday the agency is no longer representing Sarandon.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 7...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #931 on: November 21, 2023, 07:33:47 pm »
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Russia’s infamous mercenary Wagner Group plans to team up with Lebanon’s Hezbollah terrorists or Iran as part of an “unprecedented defense cooperation’’ during the Israel war, the White House said Tuesday.

“Our information… indicates that Wagner, at the direction of the Russian government, was preparing to provide an air defense capability to either Hezbollah or Iran,” National Security Council spokesman John Kirby told reporters, according to Agence France-Press.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 7...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #932 on: November 21, 2023, 07:34:22 pm »
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"The proposal for a humanitarian pause and the release of hostages was delivered to the Israeli side in the early hours of this morning following weeks of continuous negotiations. The State of Qatar is awaiting the result of the Israeli government's vote on the proposal."
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« Reply #936 on: November 21, 2023, 08:22:26 pm »
'I'm Not Going To Tell You': Biden Flashes Massive Smile After Refusing To Give Reporter Hostage Update


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Re: BREAKING....Thread 7...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #937 on: November 21, 2023, 08:29:03 pm »
'I'm Not Going To Tell You': Biden Flashes Massive Smile After Refusing To Give Reporter Hostage Update
He's so effin' weird.
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« Reply #938 on: November 21, 2023, 08:39:04 pm »

IDF spokesman says any Hamas cease-fire is a ‘dubious endeavor’

Israel Defense Forces spokesman Lt. Col. Jonathan Conricus told Fox News on Tuesday that any cease-fire with the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas, “based on our previous experience is always a dubious endeavor.”

“We have had soldiers taken hostage – or being abducted in 2014 after a U.N. cease-fire was brokered. So we have to be very careful when it comes to anything that relates to operations on the ground with Hamas,” Conricus said.

“I also know that there are other conditions Hamas is trying to stipulate. What we will and will not do while the hostages are being returned,” he added, noting that any cease-fire or hostage swap deal is “not done until it’s done.”

“Based on our experience with Hamas, I can only believe what I see and I can touch with my own hands,” Conricus declared.

Around 240 hostages are being held by Hamas inside of the Gaza Strip. 

‘We would rather not be in the situation that we are in... but we have to deal with the hand that we have been dealt or play the cards that we have and make the best of the situation,” according to Conricus.

“Nothing says that the war ends after hostages are returned,” Conricus also said. “Hamas needs to be destroyed.”
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Everything dealing with Arabs is 'dubious'. Arab Muslims think of Infidels as literally dogs. Not figurative dogs. Literal dogs. Arab Muslims think of Infidels as their slaves and servants. This includes the Infidels who cheer and support them. Therefore, any agreement with a dog or a slave is a joke to them. They do not feel obliged to observe their side of any negotiations with slaves and dogs. This is a concept Americans cannot comprehend.

I will be very surprised if Hamas fulfills ALL aspects of any agreement. Hamas will slow roll trickle releasing hostages for as long as possible to stall for as much time as possible to rearm and regroup. They will likely release a hostage or two a day (starting with the hostages they have already killed first, bodies) for a month or months to try to frustrate Israel and the world.

Right now, the hostages are all they have. The hostages are their only power. Hamas will hold on to them forever, or for as long as possible.
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You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists.

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« Reply #939 on: November 21, 2023, 08:53:32 pm »




I wonder where all that money they have been sending went? *hmmmm*

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« Reply #940 on: November 21, 2023, 08:56:45 pm »
He's so effin' weird.

Weird and evil. Perhaps the anti-Christ?
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« Reply #942 on: November 21, 2023, 08:58:58 pm »
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Exclusive: Susan Sarandon dumped by Hollywood agents over anti-Jewish rant
By Sara Nathan

Oscar winner Susan Sarandon has been dropped by top Hollywood agency UTA after saying that frightened Jews are “getting a taste of how it feels to be Muslim in America,” Page Six can reveal.

The 77-year-old actress has spent the past few weeks raging against Israel and is now under fire for her latest outburst in the wake of the October 7 attack by Hamas.

Sources say several staffers at UTA were extremely hurt by Sarandon’s comments.

A UTA spokesperson told Page Six Tuesday the agency is no longer representing Sarandon.
What she said here explicitly and unequivocally is that Jews "deserve" antisemitism. She said antisemitism is a "good lesson" for Jews. Because Muslims have faced animosity since they attacked America killing over 3000 innocent people simply going about their day.
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« Reply #943 on: November 21, 2023, 09:30:12 pm »
Weird and evil. Perhaps the anti-Christ?

His brain is jello.  I continue to be amazed that no major figures have stepped forth to challenge him in the primary. 

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Only half way done?  The IDF needs to pick up the pace.
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Netanyahu: Israel will continue war 'until we achieve all our goals'

Benjamin Netanyahu has been addressing his ministers during a meeting of the government to discuss the hostage deal.

Israel will continue its war against Hamas even if a temporary ceasefire is reached to release hostages, the Israeli prime minister said in a televised video statement, AP reported.

“We are at war, and we will continue the war,” he said.

"We will continue until we achieve all our goals."

The full Israeli cabinet is now meeting to discuss a potential hostage deal, following meetings of the war cabinet and the security cabinet.

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Here’s more from Benjamin Netanyahu, who has been addressing his cabinet ministers as they prepare to vote for a deal for the release of hostages.

Speaking after a meeting with his war cabinet and the wider security cabinet, the Israeli prime minister said accepting a deal was “a difficult decision but it’s a right decision”.

Netanyahu said the US president, Joe Biden, had helped “improve the framework being laid out before you ... to include more hostages at a lower price”, adding:

"The entire security establishment fully supports it."


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« Reply #946 on: November 21, 2023, 10:00:26 pm »
Hamas is not a single group. Hamas is not a single Army with a defined 'chain of command'. Hamas is a factious union of murderous terrorists groups each with their own Sheik or leader. Think of Hamas as a band of 'biker gangs' who happen to have a common goal which is the death of all Infidels, starting with Israel first.

Each of these factions is holding a certain number of hostages. The idea that a so-called 'Hamas Leader' can make an agreement to as they say, "release all hostages", is not possible. Since that would require that all the separate sects would all agree to 'obey' together the so-called 'Hamas Leader' (which does not really exist). The odds of this happening are minimal, since each Sheik/sect would have his own demands for a different distinct payoff.

There is no 'one person' or 'one entity' in the Islamic world with the authority to control all the various facets of Hamas. So, this agreement will only apply to those Hamas entities which decide to abide by it. Western negotiators and Western people think in Western First World terms, which do not apply to Hamas or to the entire Middle East by and large.

In summary, negotiating with people claiming to control Hamas is the only option available. Therefore it must be pursued. However, the idea being pushed in the media of "releasing all hostages" is only asymptotically possible. That is to say, it is an idea with a possibility of actually happening that is approaching but never quite reaching zero. It is very unlikely.
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« Reply #947 on: November 21, 2023, 10:06:50 pm »
Three things we have learned so far:

  • Hamas is getting their ass kicked.  Hence the need for a cease fire.

  • Hamas is running low on fuel.

  • Hamas doesn't like drones scouring the sky watching their moves.

Hamas needs a break so that they can shift their forces and bring in more fuel and weapons to continue their fight against the IDF.
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« Reply #948 on: November 21, 2023, 10:26:03 pm »
Israel-Hamas war: Netanyahu speaks ahead of Cabinet vote on hostage deal

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu addressed the possible approval of a hostage deal with Hamas terrorists ahead of a Cabinet meeting on Tuesday.

"I want to start with something that should be obvious – there is nonsense talk out there, as if after the pause for the release of our hostages, we will stop the war," Netanyahu began. "So I want to make it clear: we are at war, and we will continue this war until we achieve ALL our goals."

"To eliminate Hamas, to bring back all of our hostages and missing people, and to ensure that in Gaza there will be no factor that threatens Israel," he added.

The Israeli leader also thanked President Biden for helping with negotiations to free hostages.

"I’ve talked to our friend, the President of the USA, Joe Biden, I’ve asked him to intervene in order to better the deal that will be presented to you," Netanyahu explained. "And it was improved to include more hostages for lesser price. These talks have succeeded, Mr. Biden got involved, and I thank him for that."

Netanyahu called the decision to negotiate with Hamas "difficult" before the vote began.

"We have a hard decision tonight, but it is the right decision, all the security establishment supports it. Completely," he said. "They made it clear in their full professional assessment that the security of our forces will be guaranteed during the days of the pause, and that the intelligence effort will be maintained during those days."

Fox News Digital's Dana Karni contributed to this report.
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