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7th Circuit: AR-15s Not Protected by Second Amendment
« on: November 05, 2023, 01:07:26 am »
AWR Hawkins 4 Nov 2023

On Friday, a three-judge panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit overturned an injunction against Illinois’ “assault weapons” ban, deciding that AR-15s are not protected by the Second Amendment.

The preliminary injunction was issued in Barnett v. Raoul by U.S. District Judge Stephen P. McGlynn, a Donald Trump appointee.

McGlynn’s decision was appealed to the Seventh Circuit, where a three-judge panel decided 2 to 1 against the injunction.

The three judges were Ronald Reagan appointee Frank Easterbook, Bill Clinton appointee Diane P. Wood, and Donald Trump appointee Michael P. Brennan.

Easterbrook and Wood constituted the panel majority in overturning the injunction. They noted that Heller (2008) held, “[l]ike most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited.”

They went on to note that in Heller, the Supreme Court of the United States found that machine guns were not protected under the Second Amendment because they were not “bearable” arms, and that is “because they can be dedicated exclusively to military use.”

Easterbrook and Wood then focused on similarities they found between AR-15s and M16s, the latter of which can be fired in full-auto or three-round burst modes. They wrote:

    The similarity between the AR-15 and the M16 only increases when we take into account how easy it is to modify the AR-15 by adding a “bump stock” (as the shooter in the 2017 Las Vegas event had done) or auto-sear to it, thereby making it, in essence, a fully automatic weapon. In a decision addressing a ban on bump stocks enacted by the Maryland legislature, another federal court found that bump-stock devices enable “rates of fire between 400 to 800 rounds per minute.”

They also noted that both guns use the same ammunition and “deliver the same kinetic energy.”

https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2023/11/04/7th-circuit-ar-15s-not-protected-second-amendment/
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Re: 7th Circuit: AR-15s Not Protected by Second Amendment
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2023, 01:37:13 am »
Lovely attempt to look knowledgeable. FAIL!

While many AR-15 lowers are mated with an upper receiver which is chambered in .223 (which is not the exact same thing as 5.56, there are differences) many are not.

No AR-15 is a "machine gun".

If the rifle is not chambered in 5.56 or .223 is it still an AR-15? Does it count?

So is overturning the stay predicated on resembling the M-16 (chambered in 5.56), even though the function of the action in the two rifles is different?

Are the judges aware that "bump stocks" are already illegal?

It is a pity that the exercise of our Rights is at the whim of the uninformed, especially when the US has already been invaded by a 7 million strong Army (and growing) of people here illegally (joining God only knows how many already here), not all of whom are looking just for a better paying job, by any metric.

I wonder what the judges' bodyguards carry...
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Re: 7th Circuit: AR-15s Not Protected by Second Amendment
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2023, 02:00:14 am »
Lovely attempt to look knowledgeable. FAIL!

While many AR-15 lowers are mated with an upper receiver which is chambered in .223 (which is not the exact same thing as 5.56, there are differences) many are not.

No AR-15 is a "machine gun".

If the rifle is not chambered in 5.56 or .223 is it still an AR-15? Does it count?

So is overturning the stay predicated on resembling the M-16 (chambered in 5.56), even though the function of the action in the two rifles is different?

Are the judges aware that "bump stocks" are already illegal?

It is a pity that the exercise of our Rights is at the whim of the uninformed, especially when the US has already been invaded by a 7 million strong Army (and growing) of people here illegally (joining God only knows how many already here), not all of whom are looking just for a better paying job, by any metric.

I wonder what the judges' bodyguards carry...
Looks like the 7th, just like the 9th circus court is inhabited by anti gun activists that know that they will be overturned by the USSC....eventually but while waiting for that to happen they are happily infringing on the rights of Americans and the fact that they are working to disarm Americans especially now with the high terrorist threat is particularly heinous.

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Re: 7th Circuit: AR-15s Not Protected by Second Amendment
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2023, 03:06:23 am »
The preliminary injunction was issued in Barnett v. Raoul by U.S. District Judge Stephen P. McGlynn, a Donald Trump appointee.

I have pointed out several times, Trump didn't just appoint conservatives .... He put in a few vocal anti-gun judges too. Why, who knows.
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Re: 7th Circuit: AR-15s Not Protected by Second Amendment
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2023, 03:08:19 am »
Looks like the 7th, just like the 9th circus court is inhabited by anti gun activists that know that they will be overturned by the USSC....eventually but while waiting for that to happen they are happily infringing on the rights of Americans and the fact that they are working to disarm Americans especially now with the high terrorist threat is particularly heinous.

With Roberts and a few of the newer appointees (mixbag history)... don't count on today's SCOTUS to vote with Thomas.
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Re: 7th Circuit: AR-15s Not Protected by Second Amendment
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2023, 03:19:08 am »
So many believe that today's SCOTUS is conservative, but nothing could be further from the truth.  There are ONLY TWO CONSERVATIVE JUDGES in this court.  TWO!  The others float around somewhere in the middle, appearing as if they are taking turns being on the liberal side of particularly IMPORTANT ISSUES!!!

I trust the Bush POS appointed Roberts as far as I can throw him.  And the three Trump appointees DEFINITELY take turns being conservative, and appearing on the liberal side.

Frankly, I am not impressed by any one of the three appointees made by Trump.  And for certain, the liberal communist hacks Obama voted for will ALWAYS vote liberal bullsh*t.

And the most single IMPORTANT ACT, the questions regarding the FIXING OF THE 2024 ELECTION, the whole damn crew were OUT TO LUNCH.  No, this is not a conservative court by any means.  A monkey could see the 2020 election was fixed.  These coward POSs are SUPREME about nothing.  They are major contributors to the further destruction of the republic.  PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: 7th Circuit: AR-15s Not Protected by Second Amendment
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2023, 05:57:48 am »
So many believe that today's SCOTUS is conservative, but nothing could be further from the truth.  There are ONLY TWO CONSERVATIVE JUDGES in this court.  TWO!  The others float around somewhere in the middle, appearing as if they are taking turns being on the liberal side of particularly IMPORTANT ISSUES!!!

I trust the Bush POS appointed Roberts as far as I can throw him.  And the three Trump appointees DEFINITELY take turns being conservative, and appearing on the liberal side.

Frankly, I am not impressed by any one of the three appointees made by Trump.  And for certain, the liberal communist hacks Obama voted for will ALWAYS vote liberal bullsh*t.

And the most single IMPORTANT ACT, the questions regarding the FIXING OF THE 2024 ELECTION, the whole damn crew were OUT TO LUNCH.  No, this is not a conservative court by any means.  A monkey could see the 2020 election was fixed.  These coward POSs are SUPREME about nothing.  They are major contributors to the further destruction of the republic.  PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 :bingo: @jafo2010  :yowsa:
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