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Canada went tilt long ago.  Having Trudeau, what can one expect but total insanity and incompetence.

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Canadian PM Justin Trudeau and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy get absolutely blasted by angry Canadians while leaving the Royal York Hotel in Toronto.

“F*** you… you little b****,” protesters could be heard shouting.

“Kiss my unvaccinated a**.”

“Get out of our country, Zelenskyy! Pay for your own f***ing war!”

https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1705620783891104050
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A 98 year old Ukrainian veteran was honoured during Zelensky's visit to the Canadian Parliament and given a standing ovation. The only problem is he fought for the Nazis as part of the Waffen SS.   ...


https://twitter.com/rupasubramanya/status/1705964134762741803
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Here's another interesting thread about Trudeau and Zelenskyy honoring a Nazi:

https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1705810843827364199
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STANDING OVATION to Yaroslav Hunka, a 98-year-old Ukrainian NAZI COLLABORATOR

https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1706062792183156769
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Dang...it was WWII. What has that to do with today? Honoring this dude? I'd have to know more.

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https://twitter.com/CanadianFSWC/status/1705998697463423241
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Zelenskyy joins Canadian Parliament’s ovation to 98-year-old veteran who fought with Nazis
The man was part of SS Galichina, a unit whose history has been whitewashed by veterans groups in the West
By Lev Golinkin
 September 24, 2023

The Canadian Parliament gave a standing ovation on Friday to a 98-year-old immigrant from Ukraine who fought in a Third Reich military formation accused of war crimes.

The elderly veteran, Yaroslav Hunka was honored during a session in which President Volodomyr Zelenskyy of Ukraine addressed the lawmakers to thank them for their support since Russia invaded his country, saying Canada has always been on “the bright side of history.” The  Speaker of the House of Commons, Anthony Rota — who had compared Zelenskyy to Winston Churchill — recognized a “veteran from the Second World War who fought for Ukrainian independence against the Russians and continues to support the troops today even at his age of 98.”

The assembly then rose to applaud a man in a khaki uniform standing on the balcony, who saluted, according to this screenshot from Canadian television. The man was identified as Hunka by the Associated Press, which published a photograph showing Zelenskyy smiling and raising a fist during the ovation.  ...
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Wow! 4 posts about Hunka! Was he an SS general to warrant such attention? Yeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhhhh, no:

 *****rollingeyes***** Hunka is 98. In 2000 he was 75 ... In 1945 he was 20 ... IOW, he was a private or corporal, not someone with command authority.

 *****rollingeyes***** This division was formed with the ideal of some sort of independence for Ukraine, not Hitler's master race ideal. Ukrainian nationalism was a cause well before Hitler was born. Both the Czars and Stalin fanned the flames of this ideal. Speaking of Stalin ...

 *****rollingeyes***** Ever heard of the Holodomor? It was a famine engineered by Stalin in which 5 or 10 million Ukrainians were starved to death. Why in Hades would Ukrainians owe any loyalty to Stalin?

 *****rollingeyes***** The First Ukrainian Division was partly wiped out in the Brody Pocket (Eastern Front). The SS reconstituted the division using forced conscripts. That Hunka survived the war suggests that he was not in the Brody Pocket, but was one of the conscripts.

 *****rollingeyes***** As the war was grinding to a close, the division was fighting in Austria. In March 1945 it became part of the independent Ukrainian National Army. The division surrendered in Austria to US and British forces. Several thousand emigrated to the UK and Canada (had they been sent to Stalin they would have died in the Gulags, if they even got that far).

Ukraine was in an ugly position in WW2. It had been conquered/grafted onto the Russian Empire, mostly during the 18th Century (Crimea, ca. 1800). In their "wisdom", the Czars had worked to suppress the Ukrainian language and culture (as did Soviet leaders throughout the 20th Century). After Lenin and Stalin solidified their empire (failing to conquer Poland in that process), Stalin made starving (by confiscating food) Ukraine part of his collectivization and anti-Kulak efforts.

That was the context in Ukraine when Hitler invaded the USSR. It may seem bizarre to us, in hindsight, but at first Hitler was viewed by many Ukrainians as a liberator. They had no experience with and little knowledge of Hitler's Master Race garbage. They learned they were wrong, the hard way. Hitler viewed Slavs as inferiors, and Ukrainians were/are Slavic. A split came about between those who realized that Stalin was the Devil they would have in the future and those who thought some degree of Ukrainian independence could be eked out of the fight between Hitler and Stalin. History proved the former correct, as to who would win and Stalin's character.

Isn't it "funny" how an outrage becomes a fauxrage if you bother to do a little Math and a little more research? The war on the Eastern Front was very different from the West. To Ukrainians, the Germans became enslavers who replaced their previous enslaver Stalin. And the defeat of the Germans meant further slavery under Stalin.

Fast-forwarding into the 21st Century, the Nazis are a thing of two or three generations ago. Russian oppression, OTOH, continued until 1991, and then in 2014, the Russians invaded Crimea. Russian oppression made a partial comeback, and in 2022 Putin decided to just reconquer Ukraine. The insignia that have some Westerners making silly accusations of neo-Nazism are simply Ukrainian mockery of the Russians who want to enslave them.
« Last Edit: September 25, 2023, 02:58:16 pm by PeteS in CA »
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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Wow! 4 posts about Hunka! Was he an SS general to warrant such attention? Yeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhhhh, no:

 *****rollingeyes***** Hunka is 98. In 2000 he was 75 ... In 1945 he was 20 ... IOW, he was a private or corporal, not someone with command authority.

 *****rollingeyes***** This division was formed with the ideal of some sort of independence for Ukraine, not Hitler's master race ideal. Ukrainian nationalism was a cause well before Hitler was born. Both the Czars and Stalin fanned the flames of this ideal. Speaking of Stalin ...

 *****rollingeyes***** Ever heard of the Holodomor? It was a famine engineered by Stalin in which 5 or 10 million Ukrainians were starved to death. Why in Hades would Ukrainians owe any loyalty to Stalin?

 *****rollingeyes***** The First Ukrainian Division was partly wiped out in the Brody Pocket (Eastern Front). The SS reconstituted the division using forced conscripts. That Hunka survived the war suggests that he was not in the Brody Pocket, but was one of the conscripts.

 *****rollingeyes***** As the war was grinding to a close, the division was fighting in Austria. In March 1945 it became part of the independent Ukrainian National Army. The division surrendered in Austria to US and British forces. Several thousand emigrated to the UK and Canada (had they been sent to Stalin they would have died in the Gulags, if they even got that far).

Ukraine was in an ugly position in WW2. It had been conquered/grafted onto the Russian Empire, mostly during the 18th Century (Crimea, ca. 1800). In their "wisdom", the Czars had worked to suppress the Ukrainian language and culture (as did Soviet leaders throughout the 20th Century). After Lenin and Stalin solidified their empire (failing to conquer Poland in that process), Stalin made starving (by confiscating food) Ukraine part of his collectivization and anti-Kulak efforts.

That was the context in Ukraine when Hitler invaded the USSR. It may seem bizarre to us, in hindsight, but at first Hitler was viewed by many Ukrainians as a liberator. They had no experience with and little knowledge of Hitler's Master Race garbage. They learned they were wrong, the hard way. Hitler viewed Slavs as inferiors, and Ukrainians were/are Slavic. A split came about between those who realized that Stalin was the Devil they would have in the future and those who thought some degree of Ukrainian independence could be eked out of the fight between Hitler and Stalin. History proved the former correct, as to who would win and Stalin's character.

Isn't it "funny" how an outrage becomes a fauxrage if you bother to do a little Math and a little more research? The war on the Eastern Front was very different from the West. To Ukrainians, the Germans became enslavers who replaced their previous enslaver Stalin. And the defeat of the Germans meant further slavery under Stalin.

Fast-forwarding into the 21st Century, the Nazis are a thing of two or three generations ago. Russian oppression, OTOH, continued until 1991, and then in 2014, the Russians invaded Crimea. Russian oppression made a partial comeback, and in 2022 Putin decided to just reconquer Ukraine. The insignia that have some Westerners making silly accusations of neo-Nazism are simply Ukrainian mockery of the Russians who want to enslave them.


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Canadian PM Justin Trudeau and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy get absolutely blasted by angry Canadians while leaving the Royal York Hotel in Toronto.

“F*** you… you little b****,” protesters could be heard shouting.

“Kiss my unvaccinated a**.”

“Get out of our country, Zelenskyy! Pay for your own f***ing war!”

https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1705620783891104050
I wish more Americans had that attitude.
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I wish more Americans would not defend Nazis
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I wish more Americans would not defend Nazis

@mountaineer what American "defended Nazis"? Name names, please.
« Last Edit: September 25, 2023, 10:57:03 pm by PeteS in CA »
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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I wish more Americans would not defend Nazis

I wish more Americans had the ability to understand the nuances of history. 

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Canada's House speaker resigns over inviting a man who fought for a Nazi unit to Parliament
Story by By ROB GILLIES, Associated Press • 6h
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/us/canadas-house-speaker-resigns-over-inviting-a-man-who-fought-for-a-nazi-unit-to-parliament/ar-AA1hiFQE

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Canada's House speaker resigns over inviting a man who fought for a Nazi unit to Parliament
Story by By ROB GILLIES, Associated Press • 6h
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/us/canadas-house-speaker-resigns-over-inviting-a-man-who-fought-for-a-nazi-unit-to-parliament/ar-AA1hiFQE

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@mountaineer what American "defended Nazis"? Name names, please.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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Canada's House speaker resigns over inviting a man who fought for a Nazi unit to Parliament
Story by By ROB GILLIES, Associated Press • 6h
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/us/canadas-house-speaker-resigns-over-inviting-a-man-who-fought-for-a-nazi-unit-to-parliament/ar-AA1hiFQE

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Somebody else who doesn't understand the history of it all.

Too bad.  Without a knowledge of history - and an appreciation for its lessons - one will simply be conned or gulled by those who misrepresent history.

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Since having fought with Germany in WW2 makes people Nazis, even 8 decades later, is every Finnish army and air force veteran a Nazi? Shouldn't Finland been forced to condemn them before being allowed to become a NATO ally? Ditto Romania? Ditto Italy? Czech Republic? Slovakia? Etc. ...
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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I wish more Americans had that attitude.

Trudeau has been terrible for Canada.
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Since having fought with Germany in WW2 makes people Nazis, even 8 decades later, is every Finnish army and air force veteran a Nazi? Shouldn't Finland been forced to condemn them before being allowed to become a NATO ally? Ditto Romania? Ditto Italy? Czech Republic? Slovakia? Etc. ...

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