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WHAT HE SAID: “If all we are is listless vessels that are just supposed to follow whatever happens to come down the pike on Truth Social every morning — that’s not going to be a durable movement.”

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This is the quote, he wasn’t calling Trump supporters a bad name. He’s describing the very real scenario and it’s a Naval term. For people who call everyone else names the OnlyTrump crowd gets really touchy when they don’t understand and aren’t even called a name. He’s right.
1:48 AM · Aug 20, 2023

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I don’t even know Naval terms and it makes sense to me. Listless vessels … like boats without a paddle. It’s an analogy not a pejorative
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   DeSantis is a REAL Conservative you ought to give him a chance @Right_in_Virginia   44444heart

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The real danger to our movement is the rise of “listless-vessel” robot politicians who blindly follow the commands of their Super PACs.

8:46 AM · Aug 20, 2023

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From the campaign spokeswoman ------


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Like I said ...

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The real danger to our movement is the rise of “listless-vessel” robot politicians who blindly follow the commands of their Super PACs.

The very same donors who were funding Donald Trump four years ago. But then you knew that already.
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For people who call everyone else names the OnlyTrump crowd gets really touchy when they don’t understand and aren’t even called a name. He’s right.
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Snowflakes.

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Just like Democrats.
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Just like Democrats.

Trump is a life-long democrat, and leopards generally don't lose their spots, so the Trump cult members will inevitably act like democrats.

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   He should have dumbed it down as to not upset the Trumpers.  "Vessels without sail or rudder".
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   He should have dumbed it down as to not upset the Trumpers.  "Vessels without sail or rudder".

Boats afloat?

Boats adrift?

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This is the quote, he wasn’t calling Trump supporters a bad name ....
1:48 AM · Aug 20, 2023

It sure wasn't a compliment @mountaineer ..... Unless Ronny really likes Joe Biden:  (Video)


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   It's not 60% by any stretch of the imagination, more like 20% and dwindling of Hard Core Trumpers.  @Right_in_Virginia
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If DeSantis wins the primary he sure did a good job of getting the MAGA vote here.
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  MAGA's were always overestimated among Briefers here especially after 2018.
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Oh,the irony here is thick enough  to cut with a chainsaw.
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  MAGA's were always overestimated among Briefers here especially after 2018.

I should amend  my post @corbe . The here I meant was this Desantis statement and not here on the forum.
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DeSantis is 100% correct in what he said.  And despite how the usual suspects would like to characterize this as him labelling all Trump supporters, that's not what he did.

There are people who support Donald Trump who nevertheless will disagree with him on specific issues, and are willing to state so publicly.  There are some of those folks here.

But there are other Trump supporters who accept and agree with everything he says, not because that has always been their position, but simply because that's Trump's position.  To the extent that describes someone, a "listless vessel" is a perfectly apt descriptor, though "mindless drones" or "adoring fanatics" (my personal preference) would be apt descriptors as well.
 
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WHAT HE SAID: “If all we are is listless vessels that are just supposed to follow whatever happens to come down the pike on Truth Social every morning — that’s not going to be a durable movement.”

Chris Loesch 𝕏
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This is the quote, he wasn’t calling Trump supporters a bad name. He’s describing the very real scenario and it’s a Naval term. For people who call everyone else names the OnlyTrump crowd gets really touchy when they don’t understand and aren’t even called a name. He’s right.
1:48 AM · Aug 20, 2023

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I don’t even know Naval terms and it makes sense to me. Listless vessels … like boats without a paddle. It’s an analogy not a pejorative
3:12 AM · Aug 20, 2023

It's both an analogy and a pejorative. A listless vessel pretty clearly is not a good thing.

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Oh,the irony here is thick enough  to cut with a chainsaw.

How so?  It sounds spot on accurate to me.  How else to explain supporting Big Government policies, reckless spending, Swamp backing Trump while pending to back Conservative ideals?  It isn't rational.
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.

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   One of US will be terribly disappointed in January 24.  I hope it's you @Right_in_Virginia Cause this Country (or this Forum) cannot afford another 4 more years of you being ecstatic.

   Yall did the same $hit to Cruz in 16.  DeSantis has been watching those Tapes and he's not as dumb as you think he is.

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@Right_in_Virginia has made no secret of her outright contempt of Conservatives.  The fact that DeSantis is a Conservative only makes her hate him more.

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It's both an analogy and a pejorative. A listless vessel pretty clearly is not a good thing.

A ship without a rudder.  Aimless, on Swamp autopilot, blaming everyone else when the ship does not reach its destination.
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.

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The real danger to our movement is the rise of “listless-vessel” robot politicians who blindly follow the commands of their Super PACs.

8:46 AM · Aug 20, 2023

This guy is nothing but a stalking horse for the orange felon.  The RNC needs to remove some of these ass kissers and let them have a VP debate.  If DeSantis is going to defend Trump he can be included in that list.