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A DeSantis Primary Victory Is Still Possible. Here’s Why
« on: August 07, 2023, 12:29:33 pm »
A DeSantis Primary Victory Is Still Possible.  Here’s Why

Scott Morefield
Aug 07, 2023

The 'Uniparty' desperately wants you to believe this GOP primary is over and that we're destined to see the rematch of two tired octogenarians that a vast majority of Americans do NOT want to have to endure. It’s what the Republican ‘establishment’ wants. It’s what Democrats want. It’s what the media wants.

Don't believe it. This primary isn't close to over.

Yes, Ron DeSantis' campaign has underperformed so far. Yes, Donald Trump's various indictments continue to give him polling fuel. However, as anyone who follows politics long enough knows, political winds that blow one direction, even for a long while, can turn quickly and blow another.

It's still early, and too many things will and can happen between now and the various state election days in 2024 to declare Trump the presumptive nominee, despite how much he desperately wants to be crowned.

Here are a few key things that will occur between now and when the fat lady finally sings:

GOP Debates

These are crucial, starting with the first one this month. DeSantis must perform well whether or not Trump shows, and if Trump refuses to show he must shame him mercilessly for it. He has the ability to be a passionate speaker and display a remarkable grasp of issues, and he'll need both skills here. Expect Ron to come out guns blazing with nothing to lose.

Gavin Newsom debate

Even occurring in November, this one is a tremendous gift. Again, a strong performance is needed. Newsom is smart and a smooth talker, and shouldn't be underestimated. However, if DeSantis can hold his own and get some nice jabs in, his profile will rise. The sight of two young leaders of populous states sparring on national television will allow people to see what could be instead of what has been. When they see it, they will begin to believe it.

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Source:  https://townhall.com/columnists/scottmorefield/2023/08/07/monday-n2626686

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Re: A DeSantis Primary Victory Is Still Possible. Here’s Why
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2023, 01:42:22 pm »
   Good read, Thanks for posting @Kamaji
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Re: A DeSantis Primary Victory Is Still Possible. Here’s Why
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2023, 01:51:56 pm »
Totally agree.  The debates have the potentially to shift the race dramatically.

The other thing that has the potentially to shift the GOP race dramatically is if Biden drops out.

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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2023, 01:57:12 pm »
If DeSantis debates as well as his past couple of interviews he should shine. 

I don't think Trump will debate unless DeSantis does extremely well in the first debate and then we all know Trump's mudslinging will be relentless.
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Re: A DeSantis Primary Victory Is Still Possible. Here’s Why
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2023, 01:58:00 pm »
If DeSantis debates as well as his past couple of interviews he should shine. 

I don't think Trump will debate unless DeSantis does extremely well in the first debate and then we all know Trump's mudslinging will be relentless.

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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2023, 02:01:56 pm »
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Has a single Primary vote been cast yet?

All this political prognostication is not different than sport prognostication in advance of a sporting event.

That's why the games are still played.  The pre-game prattle is speculative BS for headlines, ratings, clicks, views, ad revenue, and mind bending propaganda.
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Re: A DeSantis Primary Victory Is Still Possible. Here’s Why
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2023, 02:08:51 pm »
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Has a single Primary vote been cast yet?

All this political prognostication is not different than sport prognostication in advance of a sporting event.

That's why the games are still played.  The pre-game prattle is speculative BS for headlines, ratings, clicks, views, ad revenue, and mind bending propaganda.

Exactly right.
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Re: A DeSantis Primary Victory Is Still Possible. Here’s Why
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2023, 02:14:22 pm »
There is certainly a lane for DeSantis to make a rise in the polls, dramatic even. This piece spells out the possibilities. Meanwhile, watch for the playground bully tactics to intensify from the Trump camp to close that lane. I expect it to be exhausting.
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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2023, 02:35:26 pm »
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Has a single Primary vote been cast yet?

All this political prognostication is not different than sport prognostication in advance of a sporting event.

That's why the games are still played.  The pre-game prattle is speculative BS for headlines, ratings, clicks, views, ad revenue, and mind bending propaganda.

Right. The debates give people a chance to see the most likely candidates together  talking about the main issues.  They don't have to chase around trying to figure out who is saying what about what at any given time.

Also about polling. They say, for example, 1200 people participated, but they don't say how many people they called. It could be they called 12,000 people and only ten percent participated. They can weigh the demographics, etc., but until people cast a vote, polls are complete crap.
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Re: A DeSantis Primary Victory Is Still Possible. Here’s Why
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2023, 03:51:20 pm »
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johncarens
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It is jaw-dropping how much hatred the Trump Operation has been able to gin up against the most effective administrative politician in my lifetime in terms of actually advancing the outcomes we CLAIM we want. Jaw dropping. Especially when Governor DeSantis just won the only crushing victory in the mid-terms…

Truly. Every issue conservatives have wanted for a generation, DeSantis’ Florida has successfully tackled. And it’s not enough..! E-verify. Crackdowns on illegal immigration. Tough law enforcement. Serious abortion restrictions. Vanquishing critical race theory. Work requirements for welfare bennies. Vetoes of state-sponsored green energy quackery. A health department that isn’t beholden to Pfizer and Moderna. On, and on, and on.

We just aren’t a serious people that want serious, lasting results. We just want rallies and zinging liberal Aunt Pearl at Thanksgiving…

We will deserve it when we are watching Joe Biden get wheeled up to the podium to take his next Oath of Office. We wanted The Show. THEY wanted your children…
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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2023, 03:57:34 pm »
Desperation is never pretty.
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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2023, 04:00:03 pm »
"I think  he can,I think he can......."
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2023, 04:02:10 pm »
   I believe I am a Handsome Man, for my age @sneakypete  Yes, I am Desperate to prevent Candidate whomever running against Defendant Trump, it's a losing situation, IMHO.
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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2023, 04:02:52 pm »

Quote
johncarens
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It is jaw-dropping how much hatred the Trump Operation has been able to gin up against the most effective administrative politician in my lifetime in terms of actually advancing the outcomes we CLAIM we want. Jaw dropping. Especially when Governor DeSantis just won the only crushing victory in the mid-terms…

Truly. Every issue conservatives have wanted for a generation, DeSantis’ Florida has successfully tackled. And it’s not enough..! E-verify. Crackdowns on illegal immigration. Tough law enforcement. Serious abortion restrictions. Vanquishing critical race theory. Work requirements for welfare bennies. Vetoes of state-sponsored green energy quackery. A health department that isn’t beholden to Pfizer and Moderna. On, and on, and on.

We just aren’t a serious people that want serious, lasting results. We just want rallies and zinging liberal Aunt Pearl at Thanksgiving…

We will deserve it when we are watching Joe Biden get wheeled up to the podium to take his next Oath of Office. We wanted The Show. THEY wanted your children…


Exactly.

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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2023, 04:23:02 pm »


That's absolutely it.  On every single domestic issue, he's the perfect conservative candidate.  Yet, Trump is doing everything he possibly can to destroy him.  And he might succeed because - as that writer said - we are no longer a serious people.   We want the show, not the results.


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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2023, 04:31:44 pm »
That's absolutely it.  On every single domestic issue, he's the perfect conservative candidate.  Yet, Trump is doing everything he possibly can to destroy him.  And he might succeed because - as that writer said - we are no longer a serious people.   We want the show, not the results.

Absolutely. Too many get giddy over the the insult, the zinger, the put-down. It’s all the attention span many can muster.
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« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2023, 04:32:14 pm »
"I think  he can,I think he can......."

Oh, I know he will, I know he will.
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« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2023, 04:39:59 pm »


@corbe

Exactly where did you find that piece?  I'm not familiar with that guy, but I suppose I should be.  Thanks!

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« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2023, 04:59:35 pm »
That's absolutely it.  On every single domestic issue, he's the perfect conservative candidate.  Yet, Trump is doing everything he possibly can to destroy him.  And he might succeed because - as that writer said - we are no longer a serious people.   We want the show, not the results.

What’s upsetting Trump is how easily Ron DeSantis won reelection without seeking his endorsement. Not only slaughtered his opponent, but also won  with demographic groups that Donald Trump did not, and will not, get.
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Re: A DeSantis Primary Victory Is Still Possible. Here’s Why
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2023, 05:27:13 pm »
What’s upsetting Trump is how easily Ron DeSantis won reelection without seeking his endorsement. Not only slaughtered his opponent, but also won  with demographic groups that Donald Trump did not, and will not, get.

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« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2023, 05:44:38 pm »
That's absolutely it.  On every single domestic issue, he's the perfect conservative candidate.  Yet, Trump is doing everything he possibly can to destroy him.  And he might succeed because - as that writer said - we are no longer a serious people.   We want the show, not the results.

Are we at the point where conservatism is a net drain?  My preference would be for the nihilist/populists to be excised and given their own party.  They can compete with the democrats for welfare and government intervention on trade and other matters.

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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2023, 05:46:13 pm »
There is certainly a lane for DeSantis to make a rise in the polls, dramatic even. This piece spells out the possibilities. Meanwhile, watch for the playground bully tactics to intensify from the Trump camp to close that lane. I expect it to be exhausting.


https://youtu.be/UrSYJWK_8lg

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Re: A DeSantis Primary Victory Is Still Possible. Here’s Why
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2023, 05:51:01 pm »
What’s upsetting Trump is how easily Ron DeSantis won reelection without seeking his endorsement. Not only slaughtered his opponent, but also won  with demographic groups that Donald Trump did not, and will not, get.

Is that really true?

EverTrumpers keep telling us DeSantis is “disloyal” for (something) after winning because Trump endorsed him, and DeSantis played on Trump values.

So did he get an endorsement last time or not?  When was that Ron’s Trump MAGA ad from?
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« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2023, 05:58:11 pm »
Are we at the point where conservatism is a net drain?  My preference would be for the nihilist/populists to be excised and given their own party.  They can compete with the democrats for welfare and government intervention on trade and other matters.

There's really no way for us to excuse them, or vice-versa.  Just have to win the primaries, which should be easier after Trump is gone.
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« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2023, 06:05:56 pm »
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Has a single Primary vote been cast yet?

All this political prognostication is not different than sport prognostication in advance of a sporting event.

That's why the games are still played.  The pre-game prattle is speculative BS for headlines, ratings, clicks, views, ad revenue, and mind bending propaganda.

Exactly.  All these prognostications at this point are like faulty details reported in the moments after a major disaster.  All hype and little to no facts. Nobody has heard most of these candidates yet.
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