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The only question we should be asking is whether impeaching Biden helps us or hurts us in 2024.  How it makes us feel should have nothing to do with it.

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The only question we should be asking is whether impeaching Biden helps us or hurts us in 2024.  How it makes us feel should have nothing to do with it.

Well, impeaching Trump helped the Democrats
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Well, impeaching Trump helped the Democrats

Did it?  I don't think impeachment moved the needle at all, and may have actually hurt them by making most Republicans and many independents believe he was being treated unfairly.  What hurt Trump were his actions and statements, not the fact that he was impeached because of them.

I think its the same thing with Biden.  Blast him for the stupid things he says and does, but impeachment is a mistake unless you've really got a smoking gun, and we don't have that yet.

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So, launch the impeachment inquiry but don't proceed to actual impeachment until irrefutable proof is in hand?  Am I reading you correctly? @roamer_1
Not even irrefutable proof will produce a conviction in the Senate.

Nor can we count on elections making anything better.

Investigate, investigate, investigate, stack the evidence to the rafters, and at the end of Biden's term, try him for the treason that is apparrent to us all, provided the evidence is true.

Impeachment means squat, round them up afterward and on trial.

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Did it?  I don't think impeachment moved the needle at all, and may have actually hurt them by making most Republicans and many independents believe he was being treated unfairly.  What hurt Trump were his actions and statements, not the fact that he was impeached because of them.

I think its the same thing with Biden.  Blast him for the stupid things he says and does, but impeachment is a mistake unless you've really got a smoking gun, and we don't have that yet.

They may have thought that about Donald Trump’s first impeachment but not his second, at least, according to polls

https://news.gallup.com/poll/329423/americans-views-impeachment-trump-record-issues.aspx

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- As former President Donald Trump's second Senate impeachment trial is about to begin, a new Gallup poll finds a slim majority of Americans (52%) saying they would like their senators to vote to convict him. Americans tilted against conviction in his first impeachment trial a little over a year ago.


As of right now, any attempt to impeach Biden will just be seen by the public as Republicans attempting to cover for Donald Trump. It will probably be seen as just getting revenge for the two impeachments the Democrats brought forth on Trump

Impeachment has become a game. The first president to be impeached was Andrew Johnson and we didn’t have another until Bill Clinton. So there was quite a span between impeachments

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The only question we should be asking is whether impeaching Biden helps us or hurts us in 2024.  How it makes us feel should have nothing to do with it.

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Impeaching Biden at this point would be counter-productive. NOTHING would fire up the typical Dim voter more than the propaganda campaign the left would produce if this happened.

It is also a waste of time and money because there is no way in hell Slow Joe can last through another campaign. I have said it before,and I will say it again,his handlers are going to make sure he steps down at the very last minute due to "health reasons",and the DNC gets to "crown" his replacement.

This will not only get him and cameltoe off the ticket (she will probably "voluntarily" resign),but put in place a new Dim candidate/campaign when it is too late for the RNC to mount an effective counter-campaign against them. Add that to the obvious Dim voter fraud,and the DNC pretty much has a "lock" on the WH for as long as they want it. Or more accurately,for as long as the international bankers like Soros are willing  to allow them to keep it.

Don't have a freaking clue who  they will crown at this point. Can't even guess,but it will be someone the globalist Billionaire Boys Club approves.

This may literally be the last presidential election in America where both candidates are not picked by the left.
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Impeaching Biden at this point would be counter-productive. NOTHING would fire up the typical Dim voter more than the propaganda campaign the left would produce if this happened.

It is also a waste of time and money because there is no way in hell Slow Joe can last through another campaign. I have said it before,and I will say it again,his handlers are going to make sure he steps down at the very last minute due to "health reasons",and the DNC gets to "crown" his replacement.

This will not only get him and cameltoe off the ticket (she will probably "voluntarily" resign),but put in place a new Dim candidate/campaign when it is too late for the RNC to mount an effective counter-campaign against them.

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Add that to the obvious Dim voter fraud,and the DNC pretty much has a "lock" on the WH for as long as they want it. Or more accurately,for as long as the international bankers like Soros are willing  to allow them to keep it.

Don't have a freaking clue who  they will crown at this point. Can't even guess,but it will be someone the globalist Billionaire Boys Club approves.

I'm not a huge believer in the power of Soros or International bankers to determine who is President.  Soros put a lot of money into local prosecutor races because those are the ones in which money can have a huge impact because so little money generally is available for those races.

And as far as presidential elections go, I don't think money is really the key factor.  Trump won in 2016 despite spending significantly less than did Hillary.

The biggest hurdle for us to overcome in future elections isn't international money, and it isn't even fraud.  It is the hard leftward drift of younger generations, and their increased willingness to vote compared with prior generations of younger people.

If we don't figure out how to change their direction of thinking, none of the rest of it will matter.

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Impeaching Biden at this point would be counter-productive. NOTHING would fire up the typical Dim voter more than the propaganda campaign the left would produce if this happened.

It is also a waste of time and money because there is no way in hell Slow Joe can last through another campaign. I have said it before,and I will say it again,his handlers are going to make sure he steps down at the very last minute due to "health reasons",and the DNC gets to "crown" his replacement.

This will not only get him and cameltoe off the ticket (she will probably "voluntarily" resign),but put in place a new Dim candidate/campaign when it is too late for the RNC to mount an effective counter-campaign against them. Add that to the obvious Dim voter fraud,and the DNC pretty much has a "lock" on the WH for as long as they want it. Or more accurately,for as long as the international bankers like Soros are willing  to allow them to keep it.

Don't have a freaking clue who  they will crown at this point. Can't even guess,but it will be someone the globalist Billionaire Boys Club approves.

This may literally be the last presidential election in America where both candidates are not picked by the left.

How do you square that with this @sneakypete  @Maj. Bill Martin @Smokin Joe

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That is, in case you don't know, that is the oath every member of congress takes every time he is sworn in.

How do they do that while ignoring criminal activity by the president?
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   There was serious talk of Impeachment of GWB after the 'hanging chad' crap in 2000. 9/11 derailed that.  The dems made up for it with since with two fabricated Impeachments of Trump.  With that being said I think McCarthy's House should impeach bidet if they have rock solid evidence of wrongdoing no matter that the Senate will never convict him.

    Also, I don't believe Comealot will voluntarily step away from VP.  That will take a concerted push, not unlike Dean and ranking Republicans pushing Nixon outta office.  @sneakypete
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I'm not a huge believer in the power of Soros or International bankers to determine who is President.  Soros put a lot of money into local prosecutor races because those are the ones in which money can have a huge impact because so little money generally is available for those races.

And as far as presidential elections go, I don't think money is really the key factor.  Trump won in 2016 despite spending significantly less than did Hillary.

The biggest hurdle for us to overcome in future elections isn't international money, and it isn't even fraud.  It is the hard leftward drift of younger generations, and their increased willingness to vote compared with prior generations of younger people.

If we don't figure out how to change their direction of thinking, none of the rest of it will matter.

I disagree.  Soros & Company are running this country right now and since Soros has retired; his kids and all of his/their foundations are destroying our Republic.  That is their goal.

There isn't time to change the minds of years of indoctrination by the leftists. 

Again, either we seat a conservative in the WH or we lose this country and Trump just isn't going to cut it, nor will they allow him to be seated in the oval office again.
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I disagree.  Soros & Company are running this country right now and since Soros has retired; his kids and all of his/their foundations are destroying our Republic.  That is their goal.

There isn't time to change the minds of years of indoctrination by the leftists. 

Again, either we seat a conservative in the WH or we lose this country and Trump just isn't going to cut it, nor will they allow him to be seated in the oval office again.

And what happens if Biden or some other Democrat gets reelected?
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I disagree.  Soros & Company are running this country right now and since Soros has retired; his kids and all of his/their foundations are destroying our Republic. 

No, they're not. I don't see why you so easily wave away the existence of tens of millions of regular Americans who are just leftists. They're not leftist because of George Soros, They're leftists because that's who they are, that's what they believe, and they vote.

Soros is a rich leftist who helps move things in that direction, but he's not actually running things.  It's the folks we elect who do that.

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No, they're not. I don't see why you so easily wave away the existence of tens of millions of regular Americans who are just leftists. They're not leftist because of George Soros, They're leftists because that's who they are, that's what they believe, and they vote.

Soros is a rich leftist who helps move things in that direction, but he's not actually running things.  It's the folks we elect who do that.

Well, you and I will just have to agree to disagree on this.  Research some of his foundations and you will see that they are very anti-American with objectives to collapse this country. I've posted links off and on for a couple of years -- Beck has done research and posted charts (which I linked) and Kushner is linked to Soros and his $$ as well.

Soros is in part responsible for the initial 'purge' of ILLEGALS into this country, paying them to come.
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