SHOCK: DeSantis’s ‘Never Back Down’ PAC May Pivot to Scott, Youngkin.

[jmyrlefuller]

You're not real good at reading a room, are you @jmyrlefuller   

It ain't your room, sweetheart.

[jmyrlefuller]

She doesn't even try to defend him.  She just ignores any negatives or criticisms, and pivots to discussing something else.

Part of the reason she can't stand me, because I fight back.

I just wish DeSantis had the same chutzpah to go after him and hard. Turn every attack on him back to the source.

[Right_in_Virginia]

It ain't your room, sweetheart.

Didn't say it was, lover boy.  Just pointed out you're not any good at reading it.

@jmyrlefuller

[bigheadfred]

Part of the reason she can't stand me, because I fight back.

I just wish DeSantis had the same chutzpah to go after him and hard. Turn every attack on him back to the source.

At least you point out the problem with DeSantis. He is gutless.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Part of the reason she can't stand me, because I fight back.

I just wish DeSantis had the same chutzpah to go after him and hard. Turn every attack on him back to the source.

I think DeSantis' strategy was to be Trump without all the negatives, and I think that's dumb.  I understand not wanting to alienate die-hard Trump supporters, but that's inevitable anyway simply by virtue of DeSantis running at all.

The issue where this bugs me the most is Ukraine, because I'll bet DeSantis is actually more hawkish on it than he has been so far.  But he's wanted to stay MAGA-adjacent, so he's been more isolationist.  If he's not careful, he'll find that some who back him as the not-Trump will shift to other challengers.

[Kamaji]

At least you point out the problem with DeSantis. He is gutless.

No, he's not a spoilt child and playground bully who delights in coming up with petty little insults for people he doesn't like.  DeSantis gets substantive work done, as his track record demonstrates, both in Congress and in Florida.

It still amazes me that so many people would rather vote for a blowhard and a bully, notwithstanding that he did a number of things that are directly antithetical to the principles they claim to believe in, simply because he comes up with lots of insults.

[corbe]

  DeSantis is rightfully keeping his powder dry.

[roamer_1]

simply because he comes up with lots of insults.

He fights.

 

[roamer_1]

At least you point out the problem with DeSantis. He is gutless.

Disney says otherwise.

[bigheadfred]

Disney says otherwise.

 

[roamer_1]

Bud Light says otherwise.

[LMAO]

At least you point out the problem with DeSantis. He is gutless.

I don’t know if he’s gutless or not but his campaign is very weak

[GtHawk]

No, he's not a spoilt child and playground bully who delights in coming up with petty little insults for people he doesn't like.  DeSantis gets substantive work done, as his track record demonstrates, both in Congress and in Florida.

It still amazes me that so many people would rather vote for a blowhard and a bully, notwithstanding that he did a number of things that are directly antithetical to the principles they claim to believe in, simply because he comes up with lots of insults.

You left something out, not only would they vote for a blowhard and a bully, but for someone who really has no idea how our government works which was proven more than once. I can understand someone who wasn't a formal politician being unschooled but in four years I don't think he made an effort to learn. I say that as someone who was willing to and did vote for him as second time despite it. But Trump through his childishness and pettiness has beat that desire right out of me. If others still think he's the second coming of Christ and want to vote for him I don't care it's their Trumpista insults and hostility against anyone who won't bow down to their savior that really chaps my @$$!

[Kamaji]

You left something out, not only would they vote for a blowhard and a bully, but for someone who really has no idea how our government works which was proven more than once. I can understand someone who wasn't a formal politician being unschooled but in four years I don't think he made an effort to learn. I say that as someone who was willing to and did vote for him as second time despite it. But Trump through his childishness and pettiness has beat that desire right out of me. If others still think he's the second coming of Christ and want to vote for him I don't care it's their Trumpista insults and hostility against anyone who won't bow down to their savior that really chaps my @$$!

Same here.

[jmyrlefuller]

You left something out, not only would they vote for a blowhard and a bully, but for someone who really has no idea how our government works which was proven more than once. I can understand someone who wasn't a formal politician being unschooled but in four years I don't think he made an effort to learn. I say that as someone who was willing to and did vote for him as second time despite it. But Trump through his childishness and pettiness has beat that desire right out of me. If others still think he's the second coming of Christ and want to vote for him I don't care it's their Trumpista insults and hostility against anyone who won't bow down to their savior that really chaps my @$$!

At this point I don't even think they care. It's become a "screw you, I'm voting Trump solely because you told me not to." Which is the absolute worst reason to choose the guy who has the reins of one of the largest governments in the world (how did we let that happen anyway?).

The constant barrage of attacks on DeSantis are because they see him as a threat. They're desperate to drive him out of the race before a single vote is cast because they know that his record is the strongest of anyone else in the field, and Trump seems to think he's entitled to the nomination. If it were anyone else in the field who was a serious challenge, that would be Trump's target too. We saw it in 2015 and 2016, and we all know truth is no barrier to anything he does or says.

[Kamaji]

At this point I don't even think they care. It's become a "screw you, I'm voting Trump solely because you told me not to." Which is the absolute worst reason to choose the guy who has the reins of one of the largest governments in the world (how did we let that happen anyway?).

The constant barrage of attacks on DeSantis are because they see him as a threat. They're desperate to drive him out of the race before a single vote is cast because they know that his record is the strongest of anyone else in the field, and Trump seems to think he's entitled to the nomination. If it were anyone else in the field who was a serious challenge, that would be Trump's target too. We saw it in 2015 and 2016, and we all know truth is no barrier to anything he does or says.

[libertybele]

At this point I don't even think they care. It's become a "screw you, I'm voting Trump solely because you told me not to." Which is the absolute worst reason to choose the guy who has the reins of one of the largest governments in the world (how did we let that happen anyway?).

The constant barrage of attacks on DeSantis are because they see him as a threat. They're desperate to drive him out of the race before a single vote is cast because they know that his record is the strongest of anyone else in the field, and Trump seems to think he's entitled to the nomination. If it were anyone else in the field who was a serious challenge, that would be Trump's target too. We saw it in 2015 and 2016, and we all know truth is no barrier to anything he does or says.

Yes absolutely, Trump sees DeSantis as a threat otherwise he wouldn't have started attacking him before he even announced he was running, nor would he have asked him to step down.

[LMAO]

Yes absolutely, Trump sees DeSantis as a threat otherwise he wouldn't have started attacking him before he even announced he was running, nor would he have asked him to step down.

He started in on both the Gov of Florida and the governor of Georgia before election night 2022

He did it because neither men seemed his endorsement for their reelection campaigns. If they won without his endorsement, that undermines him in his mind. That’s why the Stacy Abrams endorsement. Deep down, he may have been hoping both would lose

Yet, both men not only won reelection but did so decisively without his endorsement. And  that collapsed his psyche

[Maj. Bill Martin]

...someone who really has no idea how our government works which was proven more than once. I can understand someone who wasn't a formal politician being unschooled but in four years I don't think he made an effort to learn.

That is my exact issue as well.  He's intellectually lazy.

[Right_in_Virginia]

That is my exact issue as well.  He's intellectually lazy.

I'm curious.  What would you call a man who spouts Biden's talking points on both war and American justice?  @Maj. Bill Martin

[GtHawk]

At this point I don't even think they care. It's become a "screw you, I'm voting Trump solely because you told me not to." Which is the absolute worst reason to choose the guy who has the reins of one of the largest governments in the world (how did we let that happen anyway?).

The constant barrage of attacks on DeSantis are because they see him as a threat. They're desperate to drive him out of the race before a single vote is cast because they know that his record is the strongest of anyone else in the field, and Trump seems to think he's entitled to the nomination. If it were anyone else in the field who was a serious challenge, that would be Trump's target too. We saw it in 2015 and 2016, and we all know truth is no barrier to anything he does or says.

[GtHawk]

I'm curious.  What would you call a man who spouts Biden's talking points on both war and American justice?  @Maj. Bill Martin

@Right_in_Virginia (see I pinged Ya, wouldn't want to violate forum etiquette)
I'm Curious, what would you call someone who campaigned on 'Lock Her Up' then after winning shifted to 'She's Suffered Enough' to now he's complimenting Hillary?

[Right_in_Virginia]

The constant barrage of attacks on DeSantis ...

Posting reports on campaign activities and voters' reactions is not a barrage of attacks.  It's information.

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia (see I pinged Ya, wouldn't want to violate forum etiquette)
I'm Curious, what would you call someone who campaigned on 'Lock Her Up' then after winning shifted to 'She's Suffered Enough' to now he's complimenting Hillary?

My apologies @GtHawk   I should have phrased my post better.  It was rhetorical --- a statement rather than a question.  I've no desire to start beating this dead horse again.

But, thank you for replying ---- and the ping. 

[Maj. Bill Martin]

He started in on both the Gov of Florida and the governor of Georgia before election night 2022

He did it because neither men seemed his endorsement for their reelection campaigns. If they won without his endorsement, that undermines him in his mind. That’s why the Stacy Abrams endorsement. Deep down, he may have been hoping both would lose

Yet, both men not only won reelection but did so decisively without his endorsement. And  that collapsed his psyche

Though it was after the election, we can't forget that he also went after another very popular Republican government in a purple / blue state - Glenn Youngkin, whose name "sounds Chinese."