Thousands Gather Hours Ahead of Trump Rally in Pickens, South Carolina

[Hoodat]

@Right_in_Virginia

Eat your liver,Ron DeSanctimonious,you backstabbing little bitch!

You COULD have been up  there with him as his VP running mate, but got too greedy and too ambitious.

How do you envision a path to victory for Trump without Florida's 30 electoral votes?

[Right_in_Virginia]

I cited the USSS. The truth is that the USSS did not say 55,000, which is all I stated. If you're trying to call me a liar, come right out and say it, then.

I would *never* call you a liar @mountaineer

Have a fun Fourth!   

[Hoodat]

Truth matters @mountaineer

Oh, the irony!

[LMAO]

How do you envision a path to victory for Trump without Florida's 30 electoral votes?

Trump will take Florida. I can’t see Florida voting for Biden.

It states like  Georgia, South Carolina, Nevada, Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania that Trump won’t carry

He could win by carrying the Bush 2004 states. Except states like Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada, and Arizona won’t vote for Trump.

However, if Trump loses Florida, turn off your TV and go to bed and say congratulations to President reelect, Joe Biden and his cackling side kick

[Hoodat]

Trump will take Florida.

Not if DeSantis is his running mate.

[LMAO]

Not if DeSantis is his running mate.

Why do you think that? Trump won Florida pretty handling in both 2016 and 2020.

[sneakypete]

How do you envision a path to victory for Trump without Florida's 30 electoral votes?

@Hoodat

You think DeSanctimonious OWNS all of the votes in Fla?

Or even that he is going to remain as popular as he was during the last election,thanks to Trump supporting him?

[libertybele]

Why do you think that? Trump won Florida pretty handling in both 2016 and 2020.

Trump has smeared DeSantis.  If Trump runs, even with DeSantis as his running mate, I will NOT vote for him.  Trump trashing a true conservative and then that conservative runs with him?  I don't think so.

[libertybele]

@Hoodat

You think DeSanctimonious OWNS all of the votes in Fla?

Or even that he is going to remain as popular as he was during the last election,thanks to Trump supporting him?

  DeSantis didn't win FL because of Trump. That talking point needs to die because it isn't true.

[Kamaji]

DeSantis didn't win FL because of Trump. That talking point needs to die because it isn't true.

[Hoodat]

Why do you think that? Trump won Florida pretty handling in both 2016 and 2020.

US Constitution, Amendment XII

Florida electors can only vote for a ticket that includes someone not from Florida.

[LMAO]

DeSantis didn't win FL because of Trump. That talking point needs to die because it isn't true.

 
I can accept that Trump campaigning for him in 2018 may have given him an edge

But look at the landslide he won in 2022 without Trump

[Hoodat]

@Hoodat

You think DeSanctimonious OWNS all of the votes in Fla?

Or even that he is going to remain as popular as he was during the last election,thanks to Trump supporting him?

No, I think that someone would have to be a complete fool to repeatedly suggest that a Presidential candidate would choose someone from his own State as a running mate, effectively forfeiting 30 electoral votes before election day arrives.

[sneakypete]

DeSantis didn't win FL because of Trump. That talking point needs to die because it isn't true.

@libertybele

Did your cat tell you  that?

[sneakypete]

No, I think that someone would have to be a complete fool to repeatedly suggest that a Presidential candidate would choose someone from his own State as a running mate, effectively forfeiting 30 electoral votes before election day arrives.

@Hoodat

Let me see if I understand this. Are you  claiming that Trump would be the VP running mate?

[Hoodat]

@Hoodat

Let me see if I understand this. Are you  claiming that Trump would be the VP running mate?

No.  Are you?

[Maj. Bill Martin]

US Constitution, Amendment XII

Florida electors can only vote for a ticket that includes someone not from Florida.

 The relevant part of the Amendment reads:

The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves.

So theoretically, if you had a Trump/DeSantis ticket, the Florida electors could still vote for Trump for president, but could not also vote for DeSantis for vice president as well.  Or the converse.

It would be possible for some Florida electors to vote for Trump for President, and for others to vote for DeSantis as Vice-President.  They could then cast their other vote for President or Vice President (as appropriate) for some schlub rather than a Democrat.

So it wouldn't necessarily be a full 30 vote swing towards the Democrat, but it's still wouldn't be a risk worth taking.  Not sure why folks keep ignoring that while arguing that there should have been a Trump/DeSantis ticket.

[sneakypete]

No.  Are you?

@Hoodat

You are kidding,right?

[sneakypete]

The relevant part of the Amendment reads:

The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves.

So theoretically, if you had a Trump/DeSantis ticket, the Florida electors could still vote for Trump for president, but could not also vote for DeSantis for vice president as well.  Or the converse.

It would be possible for some Florida electors to vote for Trump for President, and for others to vote for DeSantis as Vice-President.  They could then cast their other vote for President or Vice President (as appropriate) for some schlub rather than a Democrat.

So it wouldn't necessarily be a full 30 vote swing towards the Democrat, but it's still wouldn't be a risk worth taking.  Not sure why folks keep ignoring that while arguing that there should have been a Trump/DeSantis ticket.

@Maj. Bill Martin

Can't speak for anyone else,but  I have been "ignoring" it because I didn't know about it.

Serious question: Trump is also a resident of NYC and owns land and buildings there. What would prevent him from changing his address to one of his NYC properties,and avoiding that little problem?

[libertybele]

@libertybele

Did your cat tell you  that?

Did your cat tell you that Trump helped DeSantis??  Seriously?? You need to get a cat who is better informed. 

P.S.  BTW I don't have a cat.

[libertybele]

The relevant part of the Amendment reads:

The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves.

So theoretically, if you had a Trump/DeSantis ticket, the Florida electors could still vote for Trump for president, but could not also vote for DeSantis for vice president as well.  Or the converse.

It would be possible for some Florida electors to vote for Trump for President, and for others to vote for DeSantis as Vice-President.  They could then cast their other vote for President or Vice President (as appropriate) for some schlub rather than a Democrat.

So it wouldn't necessarily be a full 30 vote swing towards the Democrat, but it's still wouldn't be a risk worth taking.  Not sure why folks keep ignoring that while arguing that there should have been a Trump/DeSantis ticket.

Thanks for the reminder. 

[sneakypete]

Did your cat tell you that Trump helped DeSantis??  Seriously?? You need to get a cat who is better informed. 

P.S.  BTW I don't have a cat.

@libertybele

Then you should get one. They are sensible creatures,and you might learn something.

[Hoodat]

So theoretically, if you had a Trump/DeSantis ticket, the Florida electors could still vote for Trump for president, but could not also vote for DeSantis for vice president as well.  Or the converse.

No.  Read it again.

The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves.

So which one is not an inhabitant of Florida?  (Hint:  They are both inhabitants of Florida, which means there is no one to vote for who is not an inhabitant of Florida.)

[Hoodat]

@Hoodat

You are kidding,right?

This is the second time we've been over this, @sneakypete .  Which is why it intrigues me that you keep bringing it up.  I have yet to see anything coming from Trump to indicate he would consider picking someone from his own State for VP and forfeiting 30 electoral votes.  Yet you keep insisting that DeSantis stabbed Trump in the back by not being his VP.  Did you make this up yourself?  Or did you get this idea from someone else?

[Maj. Bill Martin]

No.  Read it again.

The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves.

So which one is not an inhabitant of Florida?  (Hint:  They are both inhabitants of Florida, which means there is no one to vote for who is not an inhabitant of Florida.)

If a Florida elector voted for Trump for President, and Mike Lindell for Veep, "one of whom, at least" (Lindell) would not be a Florida inhabitant.  So, the Trump vote would count.

The elector doesn't have to vote for DeSantis just because he's on the GOP ticket - the Constitution actually doesn't permit it.  The VP vote would be a throwaway so the Trump vote could count.

Of course, that might mean you end up with Donald Trump as President, and Kamala Harris as Vice President.  Lol.