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Re: SCOTUS Ruling on Biden's Student Loan Forgiveness
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2023, 02:21:05 pm »
Any word on this ruling yet?

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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2023, 02:21:36 pm »
I'm cautiously optimistic.
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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2023, 02:24:33 pm »
Any word on this ruling yet?

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Supreme Court rules in favor of Christian designer in gay wedding website case

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The Supreme Court ruled Friday that Colorado cannot require an evangelical Christian web designer to provide same-sex wedding websites that she argued was in violation of her conscience.

The court found that the state’s anti-discrimination law violates Lorie Smith’s free speech rights under the First Amendment by demanding that she create same-sex wedding websites if she wants to do so for opposite-sex unions.

The decision narrows states’ ability to apply public accommodation laws to artists, dealing a significant blow to LGBTQ advocates.

Justice Neil Gorsuch authored the majority opinion, writing for himself and the court’s five other conservatives.

“But, as this Court has long held, the opportunity to think for ourselves and to express those thoughts freely is among our most cherished liberties and part of what keeps our Republic strong,” Gorsuch wrote. “Of course, abiding the Constitution’s commitment to the freedom of speech means all of us will encounter ideas we consider ‘unattractive.’”

The court’s three liberal justices, Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan and Ketanji Brown Jackson, dissented.


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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2023, 02:38:46 pm »
Here we go...

SCOTUS struck down Biden's student loan forgiveness.....waiting more info
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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2023, 02:39:36 pm »
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BREAKING: Supreme Court rejects Biden's student loan forgiveness plan
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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2023, 02:40:15 pm »
This is turning out to be a great week.   :patriot:
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Re: SCOTUS Ruling on Biden's Student Loan Forgiveness
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2023, 02:40:27 pm »
The Supreme Court just ruled on Biden’s student loan forgiveness plan
Published Fri, Jun 30 202310:36 AM EDTUpdated Moments Ago

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The Supreme Court on Friday struck down President Joe Biden’s student loan forgiveness plan, denying tens of millions of Americans the chance to get up to $20,000 of their debt erased.

The justices heard oral arguments at the end of February.
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2023, 02:40:41 pm »
The Supreme Court has ruled 6-3 that Joe Biden CANNOT unilaterally cancel student loan debt!!!!

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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2023, 02:41:49 pm »
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Biden's student loan debt amnesty is dead! SCOTUS holds 6-3 that transferring half a trillion dollars from borrowers to all taxpayers is not authorized in HEROES. Huge win for taxpayers and future students!
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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2023, 02:42:04 pm »
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Cool!

(sorry for my two earlier posts; I was looking at the companion case that was brought by two borrowers; they lost on standing grounds unanimously).

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filed a concurring opinion. KAGAN, J., filed a dissenting opinion, in which SOTOMAYOR and JACKSON, JJ., joined.

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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2023, 02:42:25 pm »
This is turning out to be a great week.   :patriot:

Increase security around the Justices ----- now!

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« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2023, 02:42:58 pm »
This is turning out to be a great week.   :patriot:

Yes, it is.

However, it also means that there is going to be increased pressure to pack the Court to undo these decisions, which we will all have to guard against.

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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2023, 02:44:13 pm »
The rationale in the decision is going to be very interesting.  It's one thing to say that the HEROED act did not authorize the loan forgiveness.  That's obviously a very big deal, but it is limited to that one act.

The bigger deal would be if the court found that even if the act did authorize it, that would be an unconstitutional delegation of congressional authority to the president. That's a bigger deal that might have a ripple effect in other cases.

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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2023, 02:46:00 pm »
The rationale in the decision is going to be very interesting.  It's one thing to say that the HEROED act did not authorize the loan forgiveness.  That's obviously a very big deal, but it is limited to that one act.

The bigger deal would be if the court found that even if the act did authorize it, that would be an unconstitutional delegation of congressional authority to the president. That's a bigger deal that might have a ripple effect in other cases.

I don't believe it goes that far.  It's primarily a creature of statutory interpretation.

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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2023, 02:46:28 pm »
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Biden knew this was illegal. Everyone knew this was illegal. That he tried to do it anyway, in violation of his oath of office, remains a monumental disgrace.
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« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2023, 02:47:24 pm »
I don't believe it goes that far.  It's primarily a creature of statutory interpretation.

I guess he's still reading, but you may be right. Roberts tends to prefer his decisions to be narrow, and reaching the second issue is unnecessary if you find the language isn't even in the law itself.

ETA:  looks like you're right - delegation issue wasn't discussed.
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« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2023, 02:48:48 pm »
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HAHAHAHAHA Justice Roberts cited Nancy Pelosi in the majority opinion when she said Biden doesn't have the power to cancel student debt.



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Under this Supreme Court 

Roe v Wade = GONE

Affirmative Action = GONE

Student Loan Forgiveness = GONE

Constitutional Carry = SECURED

Business Religious Freedom = SECURED

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Biden offered to have your college debt cancelled because he knew it would never happen.

Unconstitutional from the start.

The same way they be doing on reparations.

Sit your asses down!
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« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2023, 02:54:03 pm »
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A spectacular day for Donald Trump whose three conservative picks for SCOTUS were integral to the historic decisions yesterday and today. Major feather in his cap and will likely (& rightfully) be touted by his campaign in coming months.

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Biden knew this was illegal. Everyone knew this was illegal. That he tried to do it anyway, in violation of his oath of office, remains a monumental disgrace.

Yep. Vote buying, plain and simple, only he knew he wouldn't have to actually pay out. 
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« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2023, 02:55:32 pm »
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Under this Supreme Court 

Roe v Wade = GONE

Affirmative Action = GONE

Student Loan Forgiveness = GONE

Constitutional Carry = SECURED

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Say those 4 little words:  Thank you, Donald Trump

And thank you to George H.W Bush, and to George W. Bush, for appointing the other 3 Justices who made up the 6-3 majority in those cases.

Guess we should elect more guys like that, huh?
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