Trump diverting more donations from PAC to pay for mounting legal fees

[libertybele]

How do you think he maintained his wealth, despite the number of losing investment structures?  At every opportunity he grifts to get other people to cover his costs.

Though this is older news, he does have a reputation of getting others to cover his costs; that is how he has obtained wealth....

The remarkably troubled recent history of Deutsche Bank, its past money-laundering woes — and the bank’s striking relationship with Trump — are the subjects of this week’s episode. The German bank loaned a cumulative total of around $2.5 billion to Trump projects over the past two decades, and the bank continued writing him nine-figure checks even after he defaulted on a $640 million obligation and sued the bank, blaming it for his failure to pay back the debt.

https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/trumpinc/episodes/trump-inc-trump-deutsche-bank-its-complicated

[Kamaji]

I personally don't have an issue with this given the clear political motivation for the prosecutions.  Not sure the FEC views it that way, but that's how I see it.

If it's being used to fund the defense against the NYC charges being trotted out by Bragg, it probably would run afoul of the federal rules; however, if it's being used to fund the defense against the federal indictment, then it is probably ok under federal laws because the indictments basically arise out of conduct that should have a sufficiently close nexus to his status as a federal officeholder.

[Right_in_Virginia]

To be honest, I suspect his supporters don't have an issue with this as they view the lawsuits/indictments as being essentially political anyway.  And they're not really wrong.

We don't and you're right ---- we're happy to fight election interfence from anywhere it comes.

[Wingnut]

Looking at Trumps past history, it is evident the man has never done an honest thing in his life.

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[libertybele]

Looking at Trumps past history, it is evident the man has never done an honest thing in his life.

He has an inherit ability to connect with people and that has enabled him to finagle his way through life.  That is his "Art of the Deal".  It worked in the corporate world but not so much at the government level. At that level his supposed deals mostly failed. He did make headway with China to a degree. However, they fired back with COVID, though I believe Brandon, the WHO, CDC, Pelosi were a party to.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

If it's being used to fund the defense against the NYC charges being trotted out by Bragg, it probably would run afoul of the federal rules; however, if it's being used to fund the defense against the federal indictment, then it is probably ok under federal laws because the indictments basically arise out of conduct that should have a sufficiently close nexus to his status as a federal officeholder.

 

[sneakypete]

I'm sure he can afford it - I don't think he's poor by any stretch of the imagination, and I imagine he could easily afford a $100 million or more campaign from his own funds - I just don't think he has any intention of going seriously out of pocket as long as there are marks around from whom he can get funds.

@Kamaji

You mean just like the career party creature you are supporting?

[sneakypete]

Though this is older news, he does have a reputation of getting others to cover his costs; that is how he has obtained wealth....

@libertybele

No,as you know VERY well,he was born into wealth.

That's a big part  of the reason you hate him.

[Sighlass]

@libertybele

No,as you know VERY well,he was born into wealth.

That's a big part  of the reason you hate him.

In the beginning it was a big part of your reason for not liking him. Remember or do I need to quote you again. Far as I can tell, you were about the only one that had problems with his management of his unearned wealth. You also feared he would just withdraw from the election and take the money.

I doubt you can show us where anyone of us have a problem with Trump's wealth. I imagine we do (as I do) have a problem with the subject being wrongly used against us as some sorta de-facto poking stick.

Personally, I laughed at Trump's don't-take-a-salary stance. It was a ploy, something he had a right to but wanted to use it as an election ploy that IMHO hurt other less than billionaire candidates that couldn't afford to use it. It was an honest salary, but skimming to me isn't. This "skimming" on the back of donations to his campaign reeks of desperation and knowing his big mouth may of wrote a check it can't cover.

[sneakypete]

In the beginning it was a big part of your reason for not liking him. Remember or do I need to quote you again.

Yes,you  do.

Not just in words,in context.

Go for it.

 
 

[Sighlass]

Yes,you  do.

Not just in words,in context.

Go for it.

Already did...

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,503235.msg2854416.html#msg2854416

Right now, the plan from Trump is to save his skin by pardoning himself if re-elected. Nothing else matters.

[libertybele]

@libertybele

No,as you know VERY well,he was born into wealth.

That's a big part  of the reason you hate him.

@sneakypete  Let's get a few things straight.  #1 I do not hate Trump.  You keep making that assumption and you are just plain wrong.  #2 He was given a hand up by his father and he did various things with that money -- Deutche bank enters the picture.  They have, a few years back refused to do business with him any longer.  #3 I have stated several times that Trump isn't going to do anything to this country that isn't also going to make him money -- thus; energy independence, deals with China, etc. All good.

Whether you want to see it or not, he's recently gone off the rails.  That's nothing that I have just made up. It's true.  That doesn't mean that I don't think he was a great president, it means his time is over.  It's time for him to step down at his age and pass on the MAGA torch.  He needs to work with someone who he believes is capable of doing that.  He needs to get over that the election was stolen and help set up the GOP for an 8 year or maybe 16 year stretch.  Time doing that would be better spent than whining and putting down conservatives.  That defeats the momentum that he created.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

I'm not so sure that it is legal, but if people are sending in donations to help with his legal fund, then how would one discern what $$ is appropriated for his defense?

I think it probably says "up to" the given percentage may go to legal fees.

[DB]

As long as Trump's doners know it, we shouldn't care is my thought.

[Hoodat]

We don't and you're right ---- we're happy to fight election interfence from anywhere it comes.

Too bad you weren't willing to fight it when it actually mattered.

[massadvj]

This is why I don't think he will mount a third-party run. If he is doing this, then he can't afford it unless he mooches another party.

He will not do a third party run for the simple reason that he will want a pardon from a Republican president, and he will likely get assurances that he will have one.

Besides, If Trump cannot win the Republican nomination there would be no reason to believe he can win as a third party candidate.  He would only be a spoiler. His style would be to threaten that for as much as he can get, then acquiesce.

[Sighlass]

He will not do a third party run for the simple reason that he will want a pardon from a Republican president, and he will likely get assurances that he will have one.

Besides, If Trump cannot win the Republican nomination there would be no reason to believe he can win as a third party candidate.  He would only be a spoiler. His style would be to threaten that for as much as he can get, then acquiesce.

Why didn't I think of that. There is actually incentive for him to behave if he doesn't get the nomination.

[GtHawk]

Why didn't I think of that. There is actually incentive for him to behave if he doesn't get the nomination.

There may be an incentive for Trump to behave, but we are talking about Trump so I think bellicose pomposity will, ahem, trump any incentive.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

He will not do a third party run for the simple reason that he will want a pardon from a Republican president, and he will likely get assurances that he will have one.

Besides, If Trump cannot win the Republican nomination there would be no reason to believe he can win as a third party candidate.  He would only be a spoiler. His style would be to threaten that for as much as he can get, then acquiesce.

I believe that a lot of states have a sore loser law that prevents failed primary candidates from running third parties.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

I believe that a lot of states have a sore loser law that prevents failed primary candidates from running third parties.

He could always run as a write-in candidate if his goal was just to be a spoiler.  But I don't think he'd do that because he'd want that Presidential pardon, and the chances of any elected Dem giving that to him are remote at best.