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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #75 on: June 22, 2023, 07:32:15 pm »
I reserve the right to change my mind @changemymind   :tongue2:
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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #76 on: June 22, 2023, 07:37:48 pm »
I reserve the right to change my mind @changemymind   :tongue2:

Time to move on from the bickering against one another in here.

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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #77 on: June 22, 2023, 08:10:01 pm »
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« on: November 08, 2016, 11:08:40 pm »
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In recent months, The Briefing Room (and our Nation) has suffered the throes of a contentious election season like no other in our lifetime.  Factions on the Right have formed deep divides that, in our view, threaten Conservatism to its roots and in turn, our Constitutional Republic. These divides seem impassable. Too many words have been said in anger, too many have planted their standards and dared others to move them.

This must not be.

The Briefing Room will not foster that divide. This forum exists to promote general unity and knowledge on the Right.  We continue to believe Conservatism thrives best when our tent is large, welcoming, and a free exchange of Conservative-based ideas is allowed.  We all know from where the existential threats to our Republic originate and we have spent too much time and equity bickering about the futile placement of the chairs on the deck, rather than fixing the holes below the waterline.

Going forward, TBR will re-dedicate this forum to robust but healthy discussion/debate based in Conservatism and protecting our broad principles.  To the extent possible, we seek to halt the fractious, divisive rhetoric that has been all too common of late.  Continued division will lead to our demise.  We are a political news site and we understand our liberal political adversaries wish our destruction and our voices silenced.    November 9 is OUR new reality and we at TBR will move forward absent recriminations.

We still want and strive for what Ronald Reagan envisioned..a *Big Tent Policy*...We have challenges ahead, Let's work together!

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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #78 on: June 22, 2023, 09:21:07 pm »
Thanks for the reminder, @bigheadfred

Nice trip down Memory Lane there.  That thread was posted several months after I became "the new Mod," so I was involved in the discussions leading up to it.

I had forgotten how many great Briefers we lost because of the Trump War.  The post you quoted was laying the foundation to keep that from happening again.
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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #79 on: June 22, 2023, 09:24:12 pm »
MISSION STATEMENT

From This Day Forward
« on: November 08, 2016, 11:08:40 pm »
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In recent months, The Briefing Room (and our Nation) has suffered the throes of a contentious election season like no other in our lifetime.  Factions on the Right have formed deep divides that, in our view, threaten Conservatism to its roots and in turn, our Constitutional Republic. These divides seem impassable. Too many words have been said in anger, too many have planted their standards and dared others to move them.

This must not be.

The Briefing Room will not foster that divide. This forum exists to promote general unity and knowledge on the Right.  We continue to believe Conservatism thrives best when our tent is large, welcoming, and a free exchange of Conservative-based ideas is allowed.  We all know from where the existential threats to our Republic originate and we have spent too much time and equity bickering about the futile placement of the chairs on the deck, rather than fixing the holes below the waterline.

Going forward, TBR will re-dedicate this forum to robust but healthy discussion/debate based in Conservatism and protecting our broad principles.  To the extent possible, we seek to halt the fractious, divisive rhetoric that has been all too common of late.  Continued division will lead to our demise.  We are a political news site and we understand our liberal political adversaries wish our destruction and our voices silenced.    November 9 is OUR new reality and we at TBR will move forward absent recriminations.

We still want and strive for what Ronald Reagan envisioned..a *Big Tent Policy*...We have challenges ahead, Let's work together!

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I haven't found this thread to be particularly divisive or acrimonious. I sure as heck don't think it is unfair to take a poster's words from the past and use them to make a point. I don't see any name calling or personal attacks at all.

So c'mon. This is a political forum, not a quilting circle.

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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #80 on: June 22, 2023, 09:37:57 pm »
I haven't found this thread to be particularly divisive or acrimonious. I sure as heck don't think it is unfair to take a poster's words from the past and use them to make a point. I don't see any name calling or personal attacks at all.

So c'mon. This is a political forum, not a quilting circle.

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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #81 on: June 22, 2023, 09:39:56 pm »
In 2020, "defacto martial law" was called by US governors, not the POTUS. 

Yeah, the buck NEVER stops with Trump, right?

Oh wait!

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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #82 on: June 22, 2023, 09:42:55 pm »
I haven't found this thread to be particularly divisive or acrimonious. I sure as heck don't think it is unfair to take a poster's words from the past and use them to make a point. I don't see any name calling or personal attacks at all.

So c'mon. This is a political forum, not a quilting circle.

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Actually, this thread is a product of that Statement from @mystery-ak and, by design, its not acrimonious.  I am glad that we have adhered to it.

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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #83 on: June 22, 2023, 09:44:04 pm »
I haven't found this thread to be particularly divisive or acrimonious. I sure as heck don't think it is unfair to take a poster's words from the past and use them to make a point. I don't see any name calling or personal attacks at all.

So c'mon. This is a political forum, not a quilting circle.

Meant to be a FWIW post.
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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #84 on: June 22, 2023, 10:16:29 pm »
Just looking back at some of your earlier posts when you first joined TBR.... @sneakypete


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That just means I know how to think,and change my mind if circumstances prove me wrong.

You should try it.
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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #85 on: June 22, 2023, 10:17:37 pm »
And it wasn’t long ago that he thought DeSantis would be the ideal 2028 candidate

It was only after Donald Trump claimed he was being backstabbed did he adopt that position,also

@LMAO

I am PROUD to be recognized as NOT supporting a back-stabbing little bitch.

You should try it.
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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #86 on: June 22, 2023, 10:19:20 pm »

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People change their minds when they perceive they are wrong.

Not THEM! All that "thinking stuff" and making  decisions on their own makes their heads hurt.

 
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« Reply #87 on: June 22, 2023, 10:23:19 pm »
@LMAO

I am PROUD to be recognized as NOT supporting a back-stabbing little bitch.

You should try it.

The point was is you didn’t have that position until Trump made the claim of disloyalty

I can find you posting history on this if you’ve forgotten
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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #88 on: June 22, 2023, 10:25:58 pm »
The point was is you didn’t have that position until Trump made the claim of disloyalty

I can find you posting history on this if you’ve forgotten

@LMAO

Nice try at slander,but false. I decided to dump Sanctimonious when I discovered he was a back-stabbing little bitch.

Maybe YOU like to be associated with  weasels like that,but I don't.
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« Reply #89 on: June 22, 2023, 10:30:24 pm »
@Sighlass

That just means I know how to think,and change my mind if circumstances prove me wrong.

You should try it.

This is one of your posts from the past

“The same people that bought the presidency for Bathhouse Barry.

Did you showhow miss the fact that Trump earns his living and has alwasy earned his living from scamming people? You act just like because he  has 2 billion dollars in assets that it means he doesn't want more.

BTW,you seem to be obsessed with Trump's money. Does this mean you will support Bloomberg if he jumps into the election? After all,Bloomberg has 18 times as much money as Trump,and he didn't even inherit it.“

So, if that isn’t how you feel today, why? Do you agree with this post? If you agree he was a scam artist back then, why don’t you believe he’s one today? Why are you now in a position to demand others must support him today or , in your words, they’ll be just helping Biden when it appears you thought he was crooked when he ran in 2016?

Claiming a presidential candidate has made his money scamming others is a pretty serious claim.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2023, 10:38:07 pm by LMAO »
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« Reply #90 on: June 22, 2023, 10:31:40 pm »
@LMAO

Nice try at slander,but false. I decided to dump Sanctimonious when I discovered he was a back-stabbing little bitch.

Maybe YOU like to be associated with  weasels like that,but I don't.

I’m just simply pointing out a stand you had not long ago. It’s not slander to point out someone’s own past statement

There was hints he was going to run before he made it official
« Last Edit: June 22, 2023, 10:36:45 pm by LMAO »
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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #91 on: June 22, 2023, 10:39:25 pm »
This is one of your posts from the past

“The same people that bought the presidency for Bathhouse Barry.

Did you showhow miss the fact that Trump earns his living and has alwasy earned his living from scamming people? You act just like because he  has 2 billion dollars in assets that it means he doesn't want more.

BTW,you seem to be obsessed with Trump's money. Does this mean you will support Bloomberg if he jumps into the election? After all,Bloomberg has 18 times as much money as Trump,and he didn't even inherit it.“

So, if that isn’t how you feel today, why? Do you agree with this post? If you agree he was a scam artist back then, why don’t you believe he’s one today? Why are you now in a position to demand others must support him today or , in your words, they’ll be just helping Biden when it appears you thought he was crooked when he ran in 2016?

Claiming a presidential candidate has made his money scamming others is a pretty serious claim.

@LMAO

So what? It means I am capable of changing my  mind with changing circumstances.

You should try it.
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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #92 on: June 22, 2023, 10:40:54 pm »
@LMAO

So what? It means I am capable of changing my  mind with changing circumstances.

You should try it.

You made a claim in this post that Trump was a crook who made his money by scamming people. Were you lying then? Were did you get that information?

I’ve never heard that claim anywhere

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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #93 on: June 22, 2023, 10:42:55 pm »
I’m just simply pointing out a stand you had not long ago. It’s not slander to point out someone’s own past statement



@LMAO

No,you are not. You went searching for cheap shots because  I was exposing your boy for the weasel he really is,so you went looking for quotes from long ago to try to discredit me.

 
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« Reply #94 on: June 22, 2023, 10:45:28 pm »
@LMAO

No,you are not. You went searching for cheap shots because  I was exposing your boy for the weasel he really is,so you went looking for quotes from long ago to try to discredit me.

Just confronting you with your own past statements based on your very own posting history :shrug:
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« Reply #95 on: June 22, 2023, 10:49:43 pm »
@LMAO

So what? It means I am capable of changing my  mind with changing circumstances.

You should try it.

I think it is admirable that you were able to change your point of view.  It could demonstrate that you are able to grow, but it could also indicate that you've been taken in. I think that is why people are interested in probing your thinking process in this regard.  If we still see the charlatan you saw, what are we missing now? What changed your point of view about Trump?


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« Reply #96 on: June 22, 2023, 10:50:41 pm »
Just confronting you with your own claims based on past posting history :shrug:

@LMAO

ROFlaughing MY ass off!

I do thank you for your efforts,though. It proves to me that I am scoring "hits that hurt".
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« Reply #97 on: June 22, 2023, 10:54:13 pm »
@LMAO

ROFlaughing MY ass off!

I do thank you for your efforts,though. It proves to me that I am scoring "hits that hurt".

I’m not hurt at all

It’s just you never called RDS a backstabbing bitch even when it was clear he was going to run until recent

If you’d like, I’d be more than happy to find your posts

And were did you get the information in 2016 that Trump made his money by scamming people? I’ve never heard that claim
« Last Edit: June 22, 2023, 11:07:26 pm by LMAO »
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« Reply #98 on: June 22, 2023, 11:37:22 pm »
I’m not hurt at all

It’s just you never called RDS a backstabbing bitch even when it was clear he was going to run until recent

 

@LMAO 

NOW you are whining because I didn't call him a backstabbing little bitch until  he  BECAME a backstabbing little bitch?
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« Reply #99 on: June 22, 2023, 11:44:02 pm »
@LMAO 

NOW you are whining because I didn't call him a backstabbing little bitch until  he  BECAME a backstabbing little bitch?

Hey, I’m just using your own posting history. If you’re upset with that, take it up with yourself… Lol.

And you’re still avoiding the question of where you got the information in 2016 that Donald Trump made his money by scamming people
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