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Coming to a Med School Near You: Segregation
« on: May 18, 2023, 06:51:59 pm »
Coming to a Med School Near You: Segregation

A recent article in the New England Journal of Medicine prescribes distrust, division, and separation in the name of diversity, equity, and inclusion. Can we get a second opinion?

By Emmie Lo
May 17, 2023

The prestigious New England Journal of Medicine in April published an article openly championing segregation as a way for medical students to learn more effectively. Unsurprisingly, the article is steeped in incredible amounts of racism.

Seven academics from the University of California at Berkeley and UC San Francisco begin with the premise that traditional medical education is “systemically racist.” They propose to split up medical students into what they call “racial affinity group caucuses,” where would-be doctors can discuss what they have been learning in their antiracism classes with other people who share their skin color. The euphemism may be “racial affinity group caucusing,” but the authors, in fact, are really advocating segregation.

The authors demonize white people and infantilize people of every other race. And, as in most diversity, equity, and inclusion literature, they reduce human beings to monolithic groups of “oppressors” versus “oppressed” based solely on race. Everything is boiled down to power dynamics.

The authors allege that traditional medical training approaches “often center White learners” and can be “retraumatizing” for students of color, “resulting in imposter syndrome, heightened anxiety, and reduced sense of belonging” for those students. The authors assert that students of color are so traumatized by past experiences of racism that simply learning alongside white students is too much of a burden for them to bear without the support of a racial affinity group, where they can commiserate and heal from their trauma with people who look like them.

And it gets worse.

“Some BIPOC people have been socialized to care for the egos of White people, to express their emotions only in ways that  are palatable to White audiences, and to tread lightly around ‘white fragility,’” the authors proclaim, as if it’s irrefutable knowledge, “in order to maintain their relationships, professional status, and safety.” These academics, most of them MDs, appear genuinely to believe that students of color can’t speak their mind in a mixed-race academic setting without fear of repercussions and possible physical harm.

These authors categorize all white people as inherently untrustworthy and unsafe to be around. Only in an environment without any white people, they assert, can minority students truly “bring their whole selves” and “heal from racial trauma.”

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Source:  https://amgreatness.com/2023/05/17/coming-to-a-med-school-near-you-segregation/

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Re: Coming to a Med School Near You: Segregation
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2023, 06:52:32 pm »
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This is sickeningly racist stuff. Instead of building trust between people from different ethnic backgrounds, these public health professionals would prescribe and encourage distrust, division, and separation. Ironically, their point of view spits in the face of true diversity. Instead of promoting a free and open learning environment where people from all different backgrounds can come together and enhance one another’s learning experience by bringing different perspectives and ideas to the table, these authors call for a cramped, stagnant environment where everyone thinks and looks the same.

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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2023, 07:13:05 pm »
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2023, 07:31:52 pm »
So, we're going back to Seperate But Equal by request?

I'm highly suspicious of San Francisco Bay elitist academics.

One real-world case study might be New York Univserity School of Medicine.  How's the makeup of the NYU Med School student body progressed or evolved since Ken Langone's gift made tution free?
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Re: Coming to a Med School Near You: Segregation
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2023, 07:36:59 pm »
So, we're going back to Seperate But Equal by request?

I'm highly suspicious of San Francisco Bay elitist academics.

One real-world case study might be New York Univserity School of Medicine.  How's the makeup of the NYU Med School student body progressed or evolved since Ken Langone's gift made tution free?


That's what it looks like.

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Re: Coming to a Med School Near You: Segregation
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2023, 09:42:30 pm »
From the article:
"And it gets worse..."

Worse?
If this is what they want, LET THEM HAVE IT.

Makes it easier to choose a doctor or specialist in the future...

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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2023, 12:32:32 am »
Ignoring the glaringly obvious risk/opportunity (your choice) for double-standards in learning, how is a segregated learning environment going to prepare students for an unsegregated group of patients?
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2023, 01:05:31 pm »
Ignoring the glaringly obvious risk/opportunity (your choice) for double-standards in learning, how is a segregated learning environment going to prepare students for an unsegregated group of patients?

Spot on.
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Re: Coming to a Med School Near You: Segregation
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2023, 12:53:04 am »
Ignoring the glaringly obvious risk/opportunity (your choice) for double-standards in learning, how is a segregated learning environment going to prepare students for an unsegregated group of patients?

It’s not supposed to. 

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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2023, 01:30:14 am »
I have never cared about the skin color of the doctors who have treated me and my family members. The neurosurgeon who removed my brain tumor (I know, it explains a lot, :silly: ) is Hispanic. One of the doctors who administered chemo to one of my munchkins is of Chinese heritage. The cardiologist who installed my pacemaker is Chinese, probably from Taiwan. That spans 35 years of my family’s medical history.

If medical schools are going to start doing segregated classes, a rational response on my part, IMO, would to notice skin color (against my inclination and history) and look deeper into the skill and experience of doctors with certain skin color(s). I HATE that that would be a rational response and hope this proposed segregation never happens.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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Re: Coming to a Med School Near You: Segregation
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2023, 12:50:02 pm »
I have never cared about the skin color of the doctors who have treated me and my family members. The neurosurgeon who removed my brain tumor (I know, it explains a lot, :silly: ) is Hispanic. One of the doctors who administered chemo to one of my munchkins is of Chinese heritage. The cardiologist who installed my pacemaker is Chinese, probably from Taiwan. That spans 35 years of my family’s medical history.

If medical schools are going to start doing segregated classes, a rational response on my part, IMO, would to notice skin color (against my inclination and history) and look deeper into the skill and experience of doctors with certain skin color(s). I HATE that that would be a rational response and hope this proposed segregation never happens.

Yup.  It would also be rational to choose younger doctors based on common skin color, on the no-longer-irrational theory that the medical schools have indoctrinated new doctors into giving less beneficial care to people who are not of the same skin color as the doctor.

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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2023, 01:27:28 pm »
Ignoring the glaringly obvious risk/opportunity (your choice) for double-standards in learning, how is a segregated learning environment going to prepare students for an unsegregated group of patients?
Does this mean doctors would be excused from treating a patient whose skin color or ethnic background is different? Gee, that would kind of be a shame.  *****rollingeyes*****
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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2023, 01:30:50 pm »
Does this mean doctors would be excused from treating a patient whose skin color or ethnic background is different? Gee, that would kind of be a shame.  *****rollingeyes*****

It could lead to that.

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« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2023, 10:11:33 pm »
So for all the angst that went into desegregation, we are going backwards? At minority request. How odd.

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« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2023, 10:16:56 pm »
So for all the angst that went into desegregation, we are going backwards? At minority request. How odd.
See also: demands for black-only dormitories and graduation ceremonies on our glorious college campuses.
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« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2023, 10:20:54 pm »
So for all the angst that went into desegregation, we are going backwards? At minority request. How odd.

Yup.

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« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2023, 10:49:27 pm »
It is for the best. I wouldn't mind if segregation returns to all schools and all education everywhere. Any objective person can see segregation has been a disaster for everyone, including minorities. Low expectation bigotry keeps minorities ignorant, while they refuse to teach students who can learn because of some misguided idea of "equity".

A few students cannot comprehend math? Get rid of math for everyone.
A few students cannot comprehend English Literature? Get rid of Eng Lit for everyone.
A few students cannot learn to read? Get rid of reading as a requirement.
A few students cannot grasp history? Get rid of History for everyone.
A few students do not like classical music, opera, and ballet? Strike it from all curriculum.
And on and on and on and on ... to the point that now, American education is a joke across the world.
If any one student fails, we just have to keep lowering and lowering the bar until EVERYONE passes. It's only fair!

In only a couple of years, the White/Asian classes will be years ahead of all the others in every measurable way. All the other classes will learn is to 'hate Whitey' and how 'oppressed' they are. And they will know which (incorrect) pronouns to use when addressing psycho weirdos who do not know which sex they are.
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