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« Reply #3500 on: July 09, 2024, 09:58:11 pm »
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« Reply #3501 on: July 09, 2024, 09:58:40 pm »
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« Reply #3502 on: July 09, 2024, 09:59:05 pm »
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« Reply #3503 on: July 09, 2024, 10:02:21 pm »
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« Reply #3504 on: July 09, 2024, 10:03:26 pm »
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« Reply #3508 on: July 09, 2024, 11:32:11 pm »
Russian Missile Identified in Kyiv Children’s Hospital Attack

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An analysis of open source evidence, as well as missile experts, have pointed to a Russian launched Kh-101 cruise missile being the weapon that struck a children’s hospital in Kyiv, debunking claims from pro-Russian accounts and actors that denied responsibility and sought to shift the blame for the incident on to Ukraine.

The July 8 attack on the Okhmatdyt Children’s Hospital killed at least three children and injured 16 others, according to the Security Services of Ukraine (SBU). However, the full toll of dead and injured remains unknown with individuals reported to still be trapped under rubble.

In the aftermath of the strike, several social media accounts known for spreading disinformation — including that of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs — began to claim that the missile was American-made and that it had been launched from a Ukrainian anti-aircraft missile system.

Yet an analysis conducted by Bellingcat using social media footage as well as  a 3D model of the missile, all point to the munition being a Russian Kh-101 cruise missile. The analysis is in line with the view of experts, including Fabian Hoffman, a doctoral research fellow at the University of Oslo who specialises in missile technology. 



Dr. Jeffrey Lewis, a nuclear weapons and missile expert at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies at Monterey in California, similarly concluded in an email to Bellingcat that a Kh-101 missile could be seen in footage of the attack posted to social media sites.

Bellingcat also tested an alternative theory floated online that the missile was a US-made AIM-120, but found no evidence for this.

The hospital attack came as part of a wider Russian missile barrage that hit civilian targets elsewhere in Ukraine, including the city of Dnipro.  .  .

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2024/07/09/russian-missile-identified-in-kyiv-childrens-hospital-attack/
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3511 on: July 09, 2024, 11:40:58 pm »
"Liberators and Protectors"


A Ukrainian Hospital, One of Russia’s Favourite Targets—As Seen on This Map

AUDREY MACALPINE  |  Jul 09, 2024  |  19:22



An illustrative map based on a map produced by Physicians For Human Rights.

In response to the July 8th attacks on the “Ohmatdyt” Children’s Hospital in Kyiv, we take a closer look at other times Russia has violated international humanitarian law by deliberately and indiscriminately targeting hospitals in Ukraine.

A staggering statistic from Physicians for Human Rights shows that Russia has carried out a total of 1442 attacks on health care in Ukraine since the beginning of the full-scale invasion. This has meant that one in 10 hospitals in the country have been directly damaged by Russian attacks.

Attacks on healthcare are not unique to hospitals; pharmacies, ambulances and healthcare workers have also been singled out by enemy fire, as shown on this interactive map. One paramedic from Donetsk Oblast recounts an event in April 2022 when they were specifically targeted,  “At first, I didn’t understand what was happening; it felt like stones were being thrown on metal; that was the sound. When the car caught fire, we realized that we were being fired at.”

Countless stories over two and half years of war have surfaced, and the evidence is overwhelming that Russia has committed war crimes in Ukraine by targeting people and facilities that help save lives. The missile strike at the “Okhmadtdyt“ Children’s Hospital in Kyiv was the latest in a string of Russian attacks against hospitals in Ukraine.  .  .

https://united24media.com/war-in-ukraine/ukrainian-hospitals-have-been-repeatedly-targeted-by-russia-the-latest-attack-is-not-a-coincidence-1134
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« Reply #3512 on: July 09, 2024, 11:44:48 pm »
In the Ministry of Defense, the general responsible for all construction under Shoigu suddenly died

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Timur Ivanov and Magomed Khandaev                                             t.me/milinfolive

The head of the state examination department of the Ministry of Defense of Russia, Magomed Khandaev, died at the age of 62. Where this happened is not specified. The head of the Shamil district of Dagestan, Magomed Gasanov, told TASS that Khandaev's body had already been delivered by plane to Makhachkala, he would be buried in his native village of Ghent. The causes of death were not disclosed.

Khandayev was responsible for the construction of facilities for the needs of the Ministry of Defense for a long time and was directly subordinate to former Deputy Minister Timur Ivanov, who was arrested in April on charges of a billion-dollar bribe. From 2018 to 2022, Khandaev was the general director of the Department of the Customer of Capital Construction of the Ministry of Defense, and since June 2022, he has been the general director of the Main Directorate for Special Construction.

The deceased had the rank of State Counselor of the 2nd class, as well as the rank of reserve colonel. In 2021, Ivanov personally presented Khandaev with the Order of Alexander Nevsky. The colonel also had the Order of Honor and "For Military Merit".

Khandaev died against the backdrop of "cleansing" in the leadership of the Ministry of Defense associated with corruption scandals. It is not known whether he managed to testify in the case of his former boss.  .  .  .

https://www.moscowtimes.eu/2024/07/09/vminoboroni-vnezapno-umer-general-otvechavshii-zavse-stroiki-pri-shoigu-a136283
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« Reply #3513 on: July 09, 2024, 11:46:44 pm »
Putin declared the "importance" of the family after sending a million Russians to war

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Strengthening the institution of the family is the most important issue for the Russian state, President Vladimir Putin said during a meeting with the finalists of the All-Russian competition "This is our family". "And for us, for the state, there can be nothing more important than strengthening the family, especially in the Year of the Family in Russia," he said.

Putin also stated the need to raise the prestige of both large families and the institution of the family in Russia as a whole, stressing that he always tells members of the government and employees of the presidential administration about this.

Vladimir Putin's statements about the "importance" of the family sound contradictory against the backdrop of the war he unleashed with Ukraine and the sending of a million Russian men to the front. Thus, at least 300 thousand people were drafted into the troops during the "partial mobilization", as former Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu spoke about in November 2022. Another 500 thousand people signed a contract with the Ministry of Defense during 2023, Deputy Chairman of the Security Council Dmitry Medvedev said last December. In the six months of this year, another 190 thousand Russians went to serve under the contract, Medvedev said on July 4, noting that the average daily rate of recruitment into the troops is about one thousand people.

Many of these men have already died or are permanently disabled. So, according to the British Ministry of Defense, as of the end of April this year, the Russian army in Ukraine lost 450 thousand people killed and wounded. At the same time, this number does not include losses among the militants of private military companies, such as Wagner, which recruited and threw tens of thousands of prisoners of Russian colonies into "meat assaults". of which 120 thousand were killed.  .  .  .

https://www.moscowtimes.eu/2024/07/08/putin-zayavil-ovazhnosti-semi-posle-otpravki-milliona-rossiyan-navoinu-a136174
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3514 on: July 10, 2024, 12:17:36 am »
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I'm not a LIEden supporter, but Trump's position of Appeasement isn't going to be much better but it's going to be worse.


Kevin,

Appeasement?  You are full of sh*t!!!  Trump will not appease Putin.  Not sure what he will do, but whatever it is, it will be more threatening than anything Biden or Obama did.  In case you are not aware of events, it is only during the era of these two fools that Putin decided to take pages out of Hitler's book of world domination.

The big question the ninnies out there have to ask, is:  'will we still have a world with four more years of Wrecking Ball Joe, or his sidekick should she step in when he can no longer appear to perform?  I say we are closer to Armageddon today than ever in my 70 years on this planet.

I do not believe Trump will end the Ukraine war in 24 hours as he claims, but I do see him arriving at solutions to end it.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3515 on: July 10, 2024, 12:41:23 am »
Feds shut down Russian 'bot farm' that spread AI-created lies for Putin

Michael Loria  |  July 9, 2024  |  9:57 PM CDT


Federal prosecutors ripped down hundreds of AI-generated phony social media accounts used by Russian operatives to create a "bot farm" that spread lies and pro-Vladimir Putin disinformation in the United States and abroad, the Department of Justice announced Tuesday.

Many of the electronically-created bots, complete with pictures of smiling clean-cut people, purported to be Americans with names such as "Sue Williamson" and "Ricardo Abbott" who were supposedly taking to social media sites such as X to extoll on Putin's generosity and virtues.

Disinformation experts and U.S. officials heralded the the crackdown as the first of its kind against state-sponsored AI-powered propaganda. It comes at a critical point in Ukraine’s defense against Russia’s invasion and ahead of the U.S. presidential election in November.

“Today’s actions represent a first,” said FBI Director Christopher Wray. “Russia intended to use this bot farm to disseminate AI-generated foreign disinformation, scaling their work with the assistance of AI to undermine our partners in Ukraine and influence geopolitical narratives favorable to the Russian government.”

Russia’s Federal Security Service - the successors of the KGB - orchestrated the operation from 2022 through 2024, U.S. court documents say. They created nearly 1,000 X accounts and two websites, according to federal court filings.

U.S. Cyber Command and partners from the Netherlands and Canada joined the FBI in taking down the Russian operation.  .  .

https://www.yahoo.com/news/feds-shut-down-russian-bot-025733064.html
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3516 on: July 10, 2024, 07:02:47 am »
Putin's generosity and virtues.  :silly:
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3517 on: July 10, 2024, 07:08:51 am »
Putin's generosity and virtues.  :silly:


...which are wholeheartedly extolled on TOS.
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« Reply #3518 on: July 10, 2024, 09:03:20 am »

...which are wholeheartedly extolled on TOS.


Who knows how much longer now that a bot farm has been exposed
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« Reply #3519 on: July 10, 2024, 09:54:26 am »
Just a reminder of what Reagan said about isolationism and appeasement



"We in America have learned bitter lessons from two World Wars: It is better to be here ready to protect the peace, than to take blind shelter across the sea, rushing to respond only after freedom is lost. We've learned that isolationism never was and never will be an acceptable response to tyrannical governments with an expansionist intent"

"If nothing in life is worth dying for, when did this begin—just in the face of this enemy? Or should Moses have told the children of Israel to live in slavery under the pharaohs? Should Christ have refused the cross? Should the patriots at Concord Bridge have thrown down their guns and refused to fire the shot heard 'round the world? The martyrs of history were not fools, and our honored dead who gave their lives to stop the advance of the Nazis didn't die in vain. Where, then, is the road to peace? Well, it's a simple answer after all. You and I have the courage to say to our enemies, 'There is a price we will not pay.' There is a point beyond which they must not advance. This is the meaning in the phrase of Barry Goldwater's 'peace through strength.' Winston Churchill said that 'the destiny of man is not measured by material computations. When great forces are on the move in the world, we learn we are spirits—not animals.' And he said, 'There is something going on in time and space, and beyond time and space, which, whether we like it or not, spells duty.'"

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« Reply #3520 on: July 10, 2024, 10:21:32 am »
NATO officially announces it will send F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine for its war against Russia. Russian President Putin previously said F-16 fighter jets are legitimate targets for Moscow, even on third-country airfields.

https://twitter.com/BRICSinfo/status/1811033818305896545
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« Reply #3521 on: July 10, 2024, 10:21:36 am »
In the Ministry of Defense, the general responsible for all construction under Shoigu suddenly died
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The head of the state examination department of the Ministry of Defense of Russia, Magomed Khandaev, died at the age of 62. Where this happened is not specified. The head of the Shamil district of Dagestan, Magomed Gasanov, told TASS that Khandaev's body had already been delivered by plane to Makhachkala, he would be buried in his native village of Ghent. The causes of death were not disclosed.

Khandayev was responsible for the construction of facilities for the needs of the Ministry of Defense for a long time and was directly subordinate to former Deputy Minister Timur Ivanov, who was arrested in April on charges of a billion-dollar bribe. From 2018 to 2022, Khandaev was the general director of the Department of the Customer of Capital Construction of the Ministry of Defense, and since June 2022, he has been the general director of the Main Directorate for Special Construction.
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Khandaev died against the backdrop of "cleansing" in the leadership of the Ministry of Defense associated with corruption scandals. It is not known whether he managed to testify in the case of his former boss.  .  .  .

https://www.moscowtimes.eu/2024/07/09/vminoboroni-vnezapno-umer-general-otvechavshii-zavse-stroiki-pri-shoigu-a136283

Russia has corruption? Say it ain't so! Ukraine is the most corrupt country in the galaxy! Just ask any Ukraine-Hating true-believer.

Might this also be tinged with 1937-1938-style purge?
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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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« Reply #3522 on: July 10, 2024, 10:29:16 am »
The oil storage site in Kalach-on-Drone that was hit is just a few storage tanks along a railway line. It's probably temporary storage for oil along its shipping route or storage for locomotive fuel. Either way, it's oil not available for the orc invaders - whether for tanks & trucks or for train transport - and a facility lost for future usage. Ukraine looks to be employing a thousand-cuts strategy against Russia's oil infrastructure.
I am not and never have been a leftist.

If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3523 on: July 10, 2024, 01:37:00 pm »
Feds shut down Russian 'bot farm' that spread AI-created lies for Putin

Michael Loria  |  July 9, 2024  |  9:57 PM CDT


Federal prosecutors ripped down hundreds of AI-generated phony social media accounts used by Russian operatives to create a "bot farm" that spread lies and pro-Vladimir Putin disinformation in the United States and abroad, the Department of Justice announced Tuesday.

Many of the electronically-created bots, complete with pictures of smiling clean-cut people, purported to be Americans with names such as "Sue Williamson" and "Ricardo Abbott" who were supposedly taking to social media sites such as X to extoll on Putin's generosity and virtues.
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Disinformation experts and U.S. officials heralded the the crackdown as the first of its kind against state-sponsored AI-powered propaganda. It comes at a critical point in Ukraine’s defense against Russia’s invasion and ahead of the U.S. presidential election in November.

“Today’s actions represent a first,” said FBI Director Christopher Wray. “Russia intended to use this bot farm to disseminate AI-generated foreign disinformation, scaling their work with the assistance of AI to undermine our partners in Ukraine and influence geopolitical narratives favorable to the Russian government.”

Russia’s Federal Security Service - the successors of the KGB - orchestrated the operation from 2022 through 2024, U.S. court documents say. They created nearly 1,000 X accounts and two websites, according to federal court filings.

U.S. Cyber Command and partners from the Netherlands and Canada joined the FBI in taking down the Russian operation.  .  .

https://www.yahoo.com/news/feds-shut-down-russian-bot-025733064.html
Now do the ones run by the left  :pondering: would that mean shutting down ABC , NBC, CBS, MSNBC CNN.....

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« Reply #3525 on: July 10, 2024, 01:40:12 pm »
Feds shut down Russian 'bot farm' that spread AI-created lies for Putin

I wonder how this will impact traffic at that other site?  :0001:
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« Reply #3526 on: July 10, 2024, 01:57:07 pm »
Feds shut down Russian 'bot farm' that spread AI-created lies for Putin

Michael Loria  |  July 9, 2024  |  9:57 PM CDT


Federal prosecutors ripped down hundreds of AI-generated phony social media accounts used by Russian operatives to create a "bot farm" that spread lies and pro-Vladimir Putin disinformation in the United States and abroad, the Department of Justice announced Tuesday.

Many of the electronically-created bots, complete with pictures of smiling clean-cut people, purported to be Americans with names such as "Sue Williamson" and "Ricardo Abbott" who were supposedly taking to social media sites such as X to extoll on Putin's generosity and virtues.

Disinformation experts and U.S. officials heralded the the crackdown as the first of its kind against state-sponsored AI-powered propaganda. It comes at a critical point in Ukraine’s defense against Russia’s invasion and ahead of the U.S. presidential election in November.

“Today’s actions represent a first,” said FBI Director Christopher Wray. “Russia intended to use this bot farm to disseminate AI-generated foreign disinformation, scaling their work with the assistance of AI to undermine our partners in Ukraine and influence geopolitical narratives favorable to the Russian government.”

Russia’s Federal Security Service - the successors of the KGB - orchestrated the operation from 2022 through 2024, U.S. court documents say. They created nearly 1,000 X accounts and two websites, according to federal court filings.

U.S. Cyber Command and partners from the Netherlands and Canada joined the FBI in taking down the Russian operation.  .  .

https://www.yahoo.com/news/feds-shut-down-russian-bot-025733064.html

Oh wow what a crazy coincidence! Russia was a big deal in 2016, because Republicans won. They stopped interfering in elections, because Dems won 2020/2022. Now they’re back, because Republicans are winning in 2024.



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« Reply #3527 on: July 10, 2024, 03:31:04 pm »
Dear NBC Skews,

Why would the Russians "undermine" Biden when he's doing a far better job of that all by himself?
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« Reply #3528 on: July 10, 2024, 03:58:28 pm »
Dear NBC Skews,

Why would the Russians "undermine" Biden when he's doing a far better job of that all by himself?
Doddering Biden is the best thing to happen to Putin since Jimmah Caatah and Hillary Clinton.
There is no way possible Putin would ever support Trump. He would never do anything to damage the Biden campaign.
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« Reply #3529 on: July 10, 2024, 04:20:57 pm »
A couple of updates in a ~5 minute video, post-attack satellite pix of the Melitopol airport and Kalach-on-Drone oil facilities


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO9aFUheECI
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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

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« Reply #3530 on: July 10, 2024, 04:41:42 pm »
NATO officially announces it will send F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine for its war against Russia. Russian President Putin previously said F-16 fighter jets are legitimate targets for Moscow, even on third-country airfields.

https://twitter.com/BRICSinfo/status/1811033818305896545


Sorry, but Russia is all talk and no action when it comes to these threats.
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« Reply #3531 on: July 10, 2024, 05:35:06 pm »

Sorry, but Russia is all talk and no action when it comes to these threats.

The Russians are full of bravado when they think their victims are weaker than they are. They also like to make people think that Russia is stronger than it really is so when they tell everyone that they'll attack any F-16 aircraft that means they are defenseless against F-16 aircraft.
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« Reply #3532 on: July 10, 2024, 05:58:48 pm »
The Russians are full of bravado when they think their victims are weaker than they are. They also like to make people think that Russia is stronger than it really is so when they tell everyone that they'll attack any F-16 aircraft that means they are defenseless against F-16 aircraft.


All bark and no bite


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« Reply #3533 on: July 10, 2024, 06:56:30 pm »


















I'm sure there are still a few Russians who continue to resemble real human beings, but these sure aren't they.

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« Reply #3538 on: July 11, 2024, 02:05:21 am »
I hope it hurt.  22222frying pan
Probably didn't long. The ammo went up in sympathetic detonation with the mine, and that has a tendency to effectively eliminate the contents of the crew compartment because the ammo is stored under the floor.

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« Reply #3539 on: July 11, 2024, 02:05:56 am »
I wonder how this will impact traffic at that other site?  :0001:
And Facebook...and...
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« Reply #3540 on: July 11, 2024, 02:06:43 am »
Dear NBC Skews,

Why would the Russians "undermine" Biden when he's doing a far better job of that all by himself?
Not to mention they'd have to dig pretty deep...
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« Reply #3541 on: July 11, 2024, 07:59:56 am »
I'm sure there are still a few Russians who continue to resemble real human beings, but these sure aren't they.


I have a feeling a huge of Russians support this conflict cause they are still stuck in the past while their country is a third-world country with questionable functioning nuclear missiles.
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« Reply #3542 on: July 11, 2024, 05:13:44 pm »

I have a feeling a huge of Russians support this conflict cause they are still stuck in the past while their country is a third-world country with questionable functioning nuclear missiles.
Considering how long our people were hitching rides on Soyuz to the ISS, I would expect the one thing over there likely to function are their ICBMs.
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« Reply #3543 on: July 11, 2024, 06:19:38 pm »
Looks like the war is over.  :pondering:

Biden at NATO Summit: "And now I want to hand it over to the President of Ukraine... ladies and gentlemen, President Putin."

https://twitter.com/unusual_whales/status/1811522554122883347


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« Reply #3544 on: July 11, 2024, 07:20:14 pm »
(I hope this is true!)

F16s Have Arrived in Ukraine


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QO4K94uqPk
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« Reply #3546 on: July 11, 2024, 08:09:31 pm »
(I hope this is true!)

F16s Have Arrived in Ukraine


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QO4K94uqPk

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« Reply #3547 on: July 11, 2024, 10:08:28 pm »
Russian Pilot Betrays Colleagues Who Attacked Ohmatdyt Children’s Hospital in Kyiv

The pilot forwarded documents to Ukraine related to the activities of his military unit as well as private photos of the command staff of the 22nd Heavy Bombing Aviation Division, HUR said.

Karina Dolomanzhy, Kateryna Zakharchenko  |  July 11, 2024  |  6:53 pm


Emergency and rescue personnel along with medics and others clear the rubble of the destroyed building of Ohmatdyt Children's Hospital following a Russian missile attack in the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv on July 8, 2024, amid Russian invasion in Ukraine. Russia launched more than 40 missiles at several cities across Ukraine on July 8, 2024 in an attack that killed at least 20 people and smashed into a children's hospital in Kyiv, officials said. (Photo by Roman PILIPEY / AFP)

Feeling that it was wrong for Russia to have undertaken a missile attack on the Ohmatdyt Children’s Hospital in Kyiv on Monday, a Russian pilot decided to pass on information about his fellows at Russia’s 22nd Heavy Bomber Aviation Division to Ukraine’s Defense Intelligence of Ukraine (HUR), a source within Ukrainian intelligence told Kyiv Post Thursday evening.

According to HUR, the defector indicated that his division is constantly shelling Ukrainian cities with X-101 missiles.

The pilot told HUR’s chatbot that he and some of his colleagues – at military unit 06987, based at Engels Airfield in Russia’s Saratov Oblast – were shocked by the attack on Ukraine’s largest kid’s hospital – including many with cancer and others there being treated for injuries from previous Russian attacks – and couldn’t understand why they were forced to attack Ukrainian civilian infrastructure.

The pilot forwarded documents to Ukraine related to the activities of his military unit as well as private photos of the command staff of the 22nd Heavy Bombing Aviation Division  .  .  .

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« Reply #3548 on: July 11, 2024, 10:12:32 pm »
Russia would need to spend 6% of its entire 2024 budget to pay wounded soldiers and families of dead troops, 2 researchers estimate

Matthew Loh  |  July 11, 2024


The Kremlin would need to spend some 2.3 trillion rubles, or $26 billion, in promised one-time payouts to wounded soldiers or families of those killed in Ukraine, according to two researchers estimates.

That’s about 6% of Russia’s total budget for 2024, which is 36.6 trillion rubles, or $414 billion.

The figures were calculated by Thomas Lattanzio, a public service fellow at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies, and Harry Stevens, a research assistant at the US think-tank Center for the National Interest.

In a commentary for War On The Rocks, they used estimates from French and British officials to ballpark Russia’s casualties from the Ukraine war. They arrived at a total of 400,000 wounded or dead, including 100,000 soldiers killed.

Russian law entitles families of killed soldiers to a one-time payment of 8.8 million rubles, with another 5 million rubles from a measure passed in 2022 just after the war began.

Lattanzio and Stevens wrote that stacked with additional payments of between 1 and 3 million rubles from local authorities, most families would receive one-time payments totaling about 14 million rubles, or $158,000.

Wounded soldiers also receive 3 million rubles, per the 2022 decree.

“Simple math shows that one-time payments would equate to 900 billion rubles for wounded personnel and at least 1.4 trillion for families of the dead, 2.3 trillion rubles total,” wrote Lattanzio and Stevens.

The cost of the one-time payments would be a “staggering amount,” they wrote.

Representatives for the Russian Ministry of Defense did not immediately respond to a request for comment  .  .  .

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« Reply #3549 on: July 11, 2024, 10:19:49 pm »
Sweden has joined the "drone coalition" for Ukraine

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General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

Sweden has joined the coalition of countries that purchase drones for Ukraine. The corresponding agreement was signed by the Minister of Defense of the Scandinavian state Paul Johnson at the NATO summit in Washington, according to the website of the Swedish Ministry of Defense.

As the head of the military department noted, Sweden, together with other countries, will support Kyiv not only in the procurement of drones, but also in the training of UAV operators. Now the coalition, in addition to Sweden, includes Australia, Canada, Denmark, Estonia, Germany, Lithuania, the Netherlands and Poland. The coalition is led by the United Kingdom and Latvia.

Sweden became a member of NATO against the backdrop of the war unleashed by Vladimir Putin in Ukraine. Also, Russian aggression against a neighboring country prompted Finland to join the alliance, after which the length of NATO's border with the Russian Federation doubled - by 1.3 thousand km, and the armed forces of the bloc were replenished by one of the most combat-ready armies in Europe.

Putin, announcing the start of the war with Ukraine, said that one of the goals of the invasion was allegedly to counter the approach of the "NATO military machine" to the borders of the Russian Federation. However, after Finland and Sweden applied to join NATO, the Russian president said that the Kremlin was not worried about this. "If they want, go ahead," he said.

At the end of May, Swedish Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky signed a bilateral agreement on security cooperation. According to the document, Stockholm undertakes to allocate almost 6.5 billion euros in military aid to Kyiv in 2024-2026.  .  .  .

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