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« Reply #1850 on: October 05, 2023, 02:24:38 pm »
They couldn't even take Ukraine, how will they invade 5 more?

If they aren't opposed, they will take them.  That is one of the reasons why it's important to support Ukraine in fighting against them.

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« Reply #1851 on: October 05, 2023, 02:33:51 pm »
Putin runs scared as his Black Sea Fleet retreats from Crimean port

By DAVID AVERRE
5 October 2023

Satellite images have shown how Vladimir Putin is running scared from Ukraine's assault on Crimea, revealing that the bulk of his Black Sea Fleet has performed a major retreat. Russian warships were evacuated from Sevastopol some 237 miles to Novorossiysk on Russia's southern coast, in what British Defense Minister James Heappey called 'the functional defeat of the Black Sea Fleet'.

The exodus of around ten vessels came after Ukraine destroyed the Sevastopol headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet in a missile strike on September 22. Nine days earlier Ukrainian missiles also hit the $303 million Kilo-class attack submarine Rostov-on-Don and large landing ship Minsk in a repair shipyard in naval port Sevastopol.

The Rostov-on-Don suffered massive damage and was likely beyond repair, analysts said. OSINT analyst MT Anderson highlighted satellite images dated October 1 which indicate the move. Two Russian Project 11356 frigates Admiral Essen and Admiral Makarov, three diesel submarines, five large landing ships and several small missile ships appeared to have been moved to Novorossiysk.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/galleries/article-12597813/Putin-runs-scared-Black-Sea-Fleet-retreats-Crimean-port.html

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« Reply #1852 on: October 05, 2023, 04:32:35 pm »
They couldn't even take Ukraine, how will they invade 5 more?

The Russians didn't expect to pose the difficulty they have, and still imagine they can steamroll Ukraine. I doubt that Balitsky is aware of the attrition of men and machines inflicted by Ukraine. So while Balitsky is being unrealistic, he does reveal mainstream Russian imperialist thinking.
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« Reply #1853 on: October 05, 2023, 04:45:39 pm »
The Kilo-class submarine and the landing ship (which was being used to transport equipment and supplies) are probably both BER. Currently, they obstruct damaged drydocks, which lessens the usefulness of Sevastopol as a naval base. Whether or not the admiral commanding the fleet was killed in the strike on the headquarters building - Russian has claimed he is OK, yogi555 - many senior officers were killed, and the building is no longer usable. It doesn't garner a lot of coverage, but Ukraine has been picking off Russian radar and SAM sites protecting Sevastopol and Crimea (the attacks on the two ships and on the HQ probably exploited holes created by reduced radar and SAM coverage).

All this taken together, it was prudent, and probably well overdue, for the Black Sea Fleet to pull back to Novorossiysk. This base, too, is not utterly safe, but far fewer Ukrainians assets can reach it. So far. It says a lot about Russians' technology and how thinly stretched they are that they could not "simply" beef up protection of the Sevastopol base.
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« Reply #1854 on: October 05, 2023, 05:04:26 pm »
The Kilo-class submarine and the landing ship (which was being used to transport equipment and supplies) are probably both BER. Currently, they obstruct damaged drydocks, which lessens the usefulness of Sevastopol as a naval base. Whether or not the admiral commanding the fleet was killed in the strike on the headquarters building - Russian has claimed he is OK, yogi555 - many senior officers were killed, and the building is no longer usable. It doesn't garner a lot of coverage, but Ukraine has been picking off Russian radar and SAM sites protecting Sevastopol and Crimea (the attacks on the two ships and on the HQ probably exploited holes created by reduced radar and SAM coverage).

All this taken together, it was prudent, and probably well overdue, for the Black Sea Fleet to pull back to Novorossiysk. This base, too, is not utterly safe, but far fewer Ukrainians assets can reach it. So far. It says a lot about Russians' technology and how thinly stretched they are that they could not "simply" beef up protection of the Sevastopol base.

It also means that if the Russians cannot reliably have ships in Crimea, they are far more vulnerable if that land bridge gets severed.

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« Reply #1855 on: October 05, 2023, 05:15:18 pm »
It also means that if the Russians cannot reliably have ships in Crimea, they are far more vulnerable if that land bridge gets severed.

Not "if" but "when".

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« Reply #1856 on: October 05, 2023, 05:22:11 pm »
Putin runs scared as his Black Sea Fleet retreats from Crimean port

By DAVID AVERRE
5 October 2023

Satellite images have shown how Vladimir Putin is running scared from Ukraine's assault on Crimea, revealing that the bulk of his Black Sea Fleet has performed a major retreat. Russian warships were evacuated from Sevastopol some 237 miles to Novorossiysk on Russia's southern coast, in what British Defense Minister James Heappey called 'the functional defeat of the Black Sea Fleet'.

The exodus of around ten vessels came after Ukraine destroyed the Sevastopol headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet in a missile strike on September 22. Nine days earlier Ukrainian missiles also hit the $303 million Kilo-class attack submarine Rostov-on-Don and large landing ship Minsk in a repair shipyard in naval port Sevastopol.

The Rostov-on-Don suffered massive damage and was likely beyond repair, analysts said. OSINT analyst MT Anderson highlighted satellite images dated October 1 which indicate the move. Two Russian Project 11356 frigates Admiral Essen and Admiral Makarov, three diesel submarines, five large landing ships and several small missile ships appeared to have been moved to Novorossiysk.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/galleries/article-12597813/Putin-runs-scared-Black-Sea-Fleet-retreats-Crimean-port.html


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« Reply #1857 on: October 05, 2023, 08:47:18 pm »
They couldn't even take Ukraine, how will they invade 5 more?

@Weird Tolkienish Figure

They are counting on a combination of buying  off western officials to not intervene,and surrender monkeys demanding we not fight.

He may even  be right.

The "Better Red than  Dead" mindset never really  went away.

 
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« Reply #1858 on: October 05, 2023, 08:49:42 pm »
@Weird Tolkienish Figure

They are counting on a combination of buying  off western officials to not intervene,and surrender monkeys demanding we not fight.

He may even  be right.

The "Better Red than  Dead" mindset never really  went away.

They are counting on the west cutting and running.

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« Reply #1859 on: October 05, 2023, 09:06:03 pm »
They are counting on the west cutting and running.

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« Reply #1860 on: October 06, 2023, 11:42:34 am »
Putin erasing all trace of Wagner, even the cemeteries...

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« Reply #1861 on: October 06, 2023, 12:07:08 pm »

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« Reply #1862 on: October 06, 2023, 01:02:20 pm »
I think this version will render on the forum:

Thanks!  I tried but couldn't get it to work like that for some reason.

Pretty low, though, bulldozing and paving over the graves of fighters who died for Mother Russia.
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« Reply #1863 on: October 06, 2023, 01:28:40 pm »
Thanks!  I tried but couldn't get it to work like that for some reason.

Pretty low, though, bulldozing and paving over the graves of fighters who died for Mother Russia.

Agreed that it's low.

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« Reply #1864 on: October 06, 2023, 02:12:35 pm »
Agreed that it's low.

Russia treat it's soldiers as expendable, yet watch this video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48DaLYiO-yk

They claim to have this reverence for them. Yet their tanks are death traps and their troops are sent body armor made out of cardboard.

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« Reply #1865 on: October 06, 2023, 04:54:08 pm »
The bruising artillery battle in Ukraine has left a scar that is visible from space

https://www.npr.org/2023/10/06/1203372829/the-bruising-artillery-battle-in-ukraine-has-left-a-scar-that-is-visible-from-sp

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The war in Ukraine has gouged a scar in the landscape so vast, that it's easily visible from space.

A new analysis by NASA's Harvest program and shared exclusively with NPR shows that between 5.2 and 6.9 million acres (2.1-2.8 million hectares) of prime farmland have been abandoned as a result of the war since 2021. The abandoned fields represent between 6.5 and 8.5% of Ukraine's total cropland.

The losses represent "a massive amount of land," says Inbal Becker-Reshef, the program director for NASA Harvest and a research professor at the University of Maryland and the University of Strasbourg in France. Much of the fallow land lies in a vast swath along the front line of the war, while other fields are in areas recently retaken by Ukrainian forces, she says.

The scar left by the fighting is easily visible in satellite imagery from the commercial company Planet. Paradoxically, the untended farmland is still green because it has filled with weeds and other plants. Harvested plots mostly appear brown in the autumn.

Becker-Reshef says that while overall, Ukraine has been able to maintain its agricultural output this year, the abandoned fields have already cost the nation around $2 billion in lost crops. Moreover, she predicts the fighting will likely hinder Ukraine's output for many years to come. As the losses compound over time, "that cost will be much, much higher," she says.

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« Reply #1866 on: October 06, 2023, 05:33:42 pm »
Ukrainians are developing new methods for detecting and eliminating mines. Rehabilitating mined land will take time, but improved techniques are in use and the clearing will happen.
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« Reply #1867 on: October 06, 2023, 07:30:13 pm »
Russia treat it's soldiers as expendable, yet watch this video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48DaLYiO-yk

They claim to have this reverence for them. Yet their tanks are death traps and their troops are sent body armor made out of cardboard.

It's an odd place, Russia.

@Weird Tolkienish Figure

The Soviets have always done this. Look up the "NKVD Blocking Squads" of WW-2.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1868 on: October 13, 2023, 03:47:36 am »
Russia is suffering massive losses in their offensive attacks on Avdiivka over the last few days.  Nearly 2,000 dead and over 100 armored vehicles destroyed.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/176gxku/ukrainian_military_struck_a_russian_column_of/
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« Reply #1869 on: October 14, 2023, 02:41:11 pm »
Russia targets wake of Ukrainian soldier


Blood stains visible in the soil as village of Hroza mourns

James Waterhouse  |  6 Oct


The unusually large collection of vehicles and people tells you something significant has happened in the tiny village of Hroza.

After driving for hours through Ukraine's endless rural expanse, it is a jarring sight.

Such is the force from a ballistic missile, it is not always immediately obvious where the missile hit.

But, as the odour of burning still taints the air, you turn a corner to find the remaining walls of what was once a café and grocery shop.

The missile struck during a wake attended by many in the village - for what this also was, was a son's attempt to rebury his father after he was killed and buried in occupied territory last year.

Now he, his wife, and 49 others are gone too - a fifth of Hroza's population killed in one go.  .  .

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1870 on: October 14, 2023, 04:47:40 pm »
Russia is suffering massive losses in their offensive attacks on Avdiivka over the last few days.  Nearly 2,000 dead and over 100 armored vehicles destroyed.

from r/UkraineWarVideoReport

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/176gxku/ukrainian_military_struck_a_russian_column_of/

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« Reply #1871 on: October 15, 2023, 01:07:58 am »
Russia Fails Massive Assualt, 300+ Vehicles Destroyed | October 14th


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« Reply #1872 on: October 15, 2023, 01:37:14 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1874 on: October 15, 2023, 05:13:50 pm »
Thanks for the updates @Hoodat