Ukraine 4

[Hoodat]

I agree.. I get it, it's ok to question the amount of $$$ being sent to Ukraine

It's even more OK to question the amount of $$$ being sent to the State Dept, the Defense Dept, USAID, HHS, etc., that is falsely being labeled as "$$$ to Ukraine".

[Kamaji]

It's even more OK to question the amount of $$$ being sent to the State Dept, the Defense Dept, USAID, HHS, etc., that is falsely being labeled as "$$$ to Ukraine".

[Smokin Joe]

I agree.. I get it, it's ok to question the amount of $$$ being sent to Ukraine, but we have to stop Russia now.


As you said, Putin wants to return Russia to it's former glory days.  As you said, they have forgotten Chamberlain's appeasement in 1938 and it bit us in the butt.  We have to draw the line now or we will face a tougher Russia when they go after the Baltics and try to take over Alaska.


Also, speaking of Alaska, I did some kind of non-scientific poll asking if should we return Alaska to Russia even if it means peace. Almost 20% said yes!

Well, that's 20% idiots out there. Nothing like giving a potential enemy a beachhead and a place to launch from, be it conventional or strategic.

[PeteS in CA]

Well, that's 20% idiots out there. Nothing like giving a potential enemy a beachhead and a place to launch from, be it conventional or strategic.

  How many conservatives, if asked if they would be OK with returning the Sonoma County, California coast around Fort Ross to Russia, would say they would be OK with that?

[Smokin Joe]

How many conservatives, if asked if they would be OK with returning the Sonoma County, California coast around Fort Ross to Russia, would say they would be OK with that?

Hell, give New York back to the Dutch!

[Hoodat]

Give Georgia back to the British Department of Corrections.

[PeteS in CA]

How many conservatives, if asked if they would be OK with returning the Sonoma County, California coast around Fort Ross to Russia, would say they would be OK with that?

Hell, give New York back to the Dutch!

@Kamaji, whatcha think?

[Kamaji]

Hell, give New York back to the Dutch!


@Kamaji, whatcha think?

Good luck getting them to accept it.

[mystery-ak]

No F-16s This Year, Acknowledges Ukraine While Holding Out Hope For ‘Good News Soon’

Ukraine has apparently come to terms with there being no donations of fighter jets during the counter offensive, or even this year at all.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/08/17/no-f-16s-this-year-acknowledges-ukraine-while-holding-out-hope-for-good-news-soon/

[Hoodat]

Ukraine has apparently come to terms with there being no donations of fighter jets during the counter offensive, or even this year at all.

Blinken told them two years ago that he was freeing up fighter jets for Ukraine's use.  Biden told them eight months ago that M-1 Abrams tanks were on the way.   They are such liars.  Meanwhile, USAID coffers continue to overflow with new cash.

[Kamaji]

Ukrainian drone damages building in Moscow disrupting air traffic, Russia says

By Reuters
August 18, 2023

A Ukrainian drone smashed into a building in central Moscow on Friday after Russian air defenses shot it down, disrupting air traffic at all the civilian airports of the Russian capital, Russian officials said.

A Reuters witness who was in the area described hearing “a powerful explosion.”

Reuters images showed workers and emergency workers inspecting a damaged roof of a non-residential building that the drone hit.

The Russian defense ministry and Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin said there were no casualties after air defenses destroyed a drone that then fell on a non-residential building of Moscow’s Expo Center complex in the early hours of Friday.

The Expo Center is a large spread of exhibition pavilions and multi-purpose halls, fewer than 3.1 miles away from the Kremlin.

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2023/08/18/ukrainian-drone-damages-building-in-moscow-disrupting-air-traffic-russia-says/

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

This has got to be humiliating for Putin no?

[PeteS in CA]

The "Expo Center complex" is less than 5 Km from the Kremlin and the Russians claim they shot down the drone, but I wonder what was in that "Expo Center complex" building. Perhaps something military or defense industry?

[Hoodat]

Oil silos in Novorossiysk, a major Russian pipeline terminal:

https://twitter.com/zakavkaza/status/1692453690207043866


Almost all of the oil coming out of Kazakhstan goes through this port.

[kevindavis007]

Oil silos in Novorossiysk, a major Russian pipeline terminal:

https://twitter.com/zakavkaza/status/1692453690207043866


Almost all of the oil coming out of Kazakhstan goes through this port.

Maybe the Russians should stop smoking.

[DefiantMassRINO]

Ukrainians may have taken it upon themselves to enforce an embargo against Russian oil sales.  India and Japan may have to look elsewhere for oil.

[Kamaji]

Five killed, 37 wounded in Russian missile strike on Ukrainian city of Chernihiv

By Reuters   
August 19, 2023

Five people were killed and 37 wounded when a Russian missile struck a central square in the northern Ukrainian city of Chernihiv, the interior ministry said on Saturday.

People had been on their way to church to celebrate a religious holiday when the strike took place, the ministry said, adding that 11 of the wounded were children.

“A Russian missile hit right in the center of the city, in our Chernihiv. A square, the polytechnic university, a theatre,” President Volodymyr Zelensky, who was on a working visit to Sweden, posted on Telegram.

“An ordinary Saturday, which Russia turned into a day of pain and loss,” he added.

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2023/08/19/five-killed-37-wounded-in-russian-missile-strike-on-ukrainian-city-of-chernihiv/

[Timber Rattler]

Ukraine breaks through Russia’s first line of defense near Tokmak — CBS

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-breaks-russia-first-line-133000751.html

The Ukrainian Armed Forces have broken through a minefield and have succeeded in their offensive on Tokmak, Zaporizhzhya Oblast, CBS News reported on Aug. 18, citing U.S. officials.

Ukrainian troops had broken through to the north of Tokmak and were now engaged in a battle with the first line of Russian defense holding the city, the official said.

[Kamaji]

Ukraine breaks through Russia’s first line of defense near Tokmak — CBS

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-breaks-russia-first-line-133000751.html

[Kamaji]

Ukraine blasts Russian Ka-52 attack helicopter out of the sky

By Chris Jewers and Will Stewart
18 August 2023

This is the incredible moment Ukraine 's armed forces blasted a Russian attack helicopter out of the sky, sending it crashing to the ground. In the latest humiliation for Vladimir Putin and his generals, a video taken from the ground shows the Russian Ka-52 Alligator being shot down over the battlefield near Robotyne, in Ukraine's Zaporizhzhia region. A second, not seen in the clip, was also reportedly shot down in the same region. The dramatic war footage shows the Ka-52 flying with another helicopter over the region, when without warning it erupts into a ball of black smoke. The damage appears so severe that the chopper makes no attempt to stay in the air, instead instantly plummeting towards the ground at speed as a piece of the aircraft flies off in another direction. The camera tracks it all the way to the ground where it falls below a treeline.

After a split-second delay, a huge fireball is seen erupting from where it landed, before more thick black smoke is seen rising into the sky. Seeing the fate of his fellow airmen, the pilot of the other two helicopter flies forward at speed to get out of the dangerous area. The fate of the pilot in the first chopper was unclear. It was not clear if the other helicopter seen in the first clip was the same second chopper that was reportedly shot down later by Ukraine's forces. Another clip appeared to confirm one was downed with a portable air-defense missile system, fired by Ukraine's 47th Mechanized Brigade. In the second clip, black smoke was seen rising from the shot-down helicopter after it crashed in the field. A video carries a voice saying 'We've got it, got it….' followed by expletives. The commander of Ukraine's air force, Mykola Oleshchuk claimed a second near blitzkrieg town Bakhmut in Donetsk region. He posted: 'One less Russian Ka-52 on the Bakhmut front this morning. 'Thanks to the air defense unit of the Air Force for a successful combat operation.'

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/galleries/article-12422037/Ukraine-blasts-Russian-Ka-52-attack-helicopter-sky.html

[kevindavis007]

Ukraine blasts Russian Ka-52 attack helicopter out of the sky

By Chris Jewers and Will Stewart
18 August 2023

This is the incredible moment Ukraine 's armed forces blasted a Russian attack helicopter out of the sky, sending it crashing to the ground. In the latest humiliation for Vladimir Putin and his generals, a video taken from the ground shows the Russian Ka-52 Alligator being shot down over the battlefield near Robotyne, in Ukraine's Zaporizhzhia region. A second, not seen in the clip, was also reportedly shot down in the same region. The dramatic war footage shows the Ka-52 flying with another helicopter over the region, when without warning it erupts into a ball of black smoke. The damage appears so severe that the chopper makes no attempt to stay in the air, instead instantly plummeting towards the ground at speed as a piece of the aircraft flies off in another direction. The camera tracks it all the way to the ground where it falls below a treeline.

After a split-second delay, a huge fireball is seen erupting from where it landed, before more thick black smoke is seen rising into the sky. Seeing the fate of his fellow airmen, the pilot of the other two helicopter flies forward at speed to get out of the dangerous area. The fate of the pilot in the first chopper was unclear. It was not clear if the other helicopter seen in the first clip was the same second chopper that was reportedly shot down later by Ukraine's forces. Another clip appeared to confirm one was downed with a portable air-defense missile system, fired by Ukraine's 47th Mechanized Brigade. In the second clip, black smoke was seen rising from the shot-down helicopter after it crashed in the field. A video carries a voice saying 'We've got it, got it….' followed by expletives. The commander of Ukraine's air force, Mykola Oleshchuk claimed a second near blitzkrieg town Bakhmut in Donetsk region. He posted: 'One less Russian Ka-52 on the Bakhmut front this morning. 'Thanks to the air defense unit of the Air Force for a successful combat operation.'

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/galleries/article-12422037/Ukraine-blasts-Russian-Ka-52-attack-helicopter-sky.html

This is good news.. The only fear is that the Russian vassal state Belarus may be forced to enter the war.

[DefiantMassRINO]

A desperate Putin could open new fronts from Belarus and Transnistria (Moldova "breakaway" region along Ukraine's western border).

Putin doesn't need to be victorious; he just needs to prevent Ukraine from achieving a decisive victory.  Putin hopes time is his greatest ally.

[sneakypete]

Five killed, 37 wounded in Russian missile strike on Ukrainian city of Chernihiv

By Reuters   
August 19, 2023

Five people were killed and 37 wounded when a Russian missile struck a central square in the northern Ukrainian city of Chernihiv, the interior ministry said on Saturday.

People had been on their way to church to celebrate a religious holiday when the strike took place, the ministry said, adding that 11 of the wounded were children.

“A Russian missile hit right in the center of the city, in our Chernihiv. A square, the polytechnic university, a theatre,” President Volodymyr Zelensky, who was on a working visit to Sweden, posted on Telegram.

“An ordinary Saturday, which Russia turned into a day of pain and loss,” he added.

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2023/08/19/five-killed-37-wounded-in-russian-missile-strike-on-ukrainian-city-of-chernihiv/

@Kamaji

NOTHING makes friends like bombing/missile strikes on the religious centers of a backwards nation.

That Pooty-Poot dood is shrewd on levels we haven't even discovered  yet!

[mystery-ak]

 US approval of F-16s brings new hope for Ukraine’s long fight
by Brad Dress - 08/19/23 12:00 PM ET

The U.S. stamp of approval on transferring F-16s to Ukraine from the Netherlands and Denmark is offering optimism over getting the prized warplanes to the battlefield as soon as possible to give Kyiv a long-term boost in the largely stalemated war.

Secretary of State Antony Blinken this week gave the go-ahead for Danish and Dutch officials to deliver the aircraft, accelerating a path to transfer the planes to Ukraine after pilots complete a training program.

It’s still unclear how long it will take for the jets to arrive fully operational, but the training and transfer is expected to take a few months at a minimum — after Ukraine’s counteroffensive push likely culminates.

Even so, the approval marks a monumental step forward for Kyiv, and analysts say the aircraft will help Ukrainian troops in a grinding war of attrition against Russia no matter when they arrive over the skies.

more
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4159385-us-approval-of-f-16s-brings-new-hope-for-ukraines-long-fight/

[Smokin Joe]

For want of a nail, the shoe was lost...