Ukraine 4

[Kamaji]

Warning:  Language

from r/UkraineWarVideoReport

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/14u3p77/the_security_service_of_ukraine_sbu_hacked_into_a/

That's disgusting, and also, if I'm not mistaken, a war crime.

[Hoodat]

Russian Submarine commander shot dead

July 10, 2023, 04:12 PM



Stanislav Rzhitsky, the deputy head of the local mobilization department and captain of a Black Sea Fleet submarine, was shot and killed in Russia’s Krasnodar Krai, Russian news agency TASS reported on July 10.

Rzhitsky commanded Oscar II-class nuclear-powered submarine Krasnodar, which was used to launch Kalibr cruise missiles at Ukraine.

According to the report, 42-year-old Rzhitsky was out for a morning run between 7 and 8 a.m. when an unidentified assailant ambushed and shot him several times.  .  .

.  .  .  Some reports suggest that his submarine might have been responsible for a missile attack on Vinnytsia on July 14, 2022, which resulted in the deaths of 27 people, including three children.

https://english.nv.ua/nation/russian-submarine-commander-shot-dead-50337973.html

[Timber Rattler]

Wow, that's going to put a chill in Russian naval officers based in the Black Sea region.

[ScottinVA]

Russian Submarine commander shot dead

July 10, 2023, 04:12 PM



Stanislav Rzhitsky, the deputy head of the local mobilization department and captain of a Black Sea Fleet submarine, was shot and killed in Russia’s Krasnodar Krai, Russian news agency TASS reported on July 10.

Rzhitsky commanded Oscar II-class nuclear-powered submarine Krasnodar, which was used to launch Kalibr cruise missiles at Ukraine.

According to the report, 42-year-old Rzhitsky was out for a morning run between 7 and 8 a.m. when an unidentified assailant ambushed and shot him several times.  .  .

.  .  .  Some reports suggest that his submarine might have been responsible for a missile attack on Vinnytsia on July 14, 2022, which resulted in the deaths of 27 people, including three children.

https://english.nv.ua/nation/russian-submarine-commander-shot-dead-50337973.html

Glad to see it.  So long as those misshapen, marauding orcs continue raping and pillaging Ukraine, no Russian will be safe... ever.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

That's disgusting, and also, if I'm not mistaken, a war crime.

That's insane. For what purposes exactly? To be rehomed with Russian mothers? That's insane. And evil. Not even the Nazis did that shit.

[Kamaji]

That's insane. For what purposes exactly? To be rehomed with Russian mothers? That's insane. And evil. Not even the Nazis did that shit.

Cultural genocide.

[ScottinVA]

Cultural genocide.

The day in which Russia no longer exists will be a great day for humanity. 

[ScottinVA]

That's insane. For what purposes exactly? To be rehomed with Russian mothers? That's insane. And evil. Not even the Nazis did that shit.

Probably to traffic them into sexual slavery, serving their oligarchs.

[libertybele]

This is dated, but he lays out the statistics.  The amount of money that we have thrown at their war since Sen Paul took to the floor is absolutely ridiculous and unwarranted.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2uV4Q9R0bk

[Timber Rattler]

It's a pittance considering what we would have to pay if we have to fight the Russians ourselves.

So the only way to "save" Ukraine is to force an "unconditional surrender" and dissolution and absorption into Russia? Or else carve it up into a rump, with Russia taking all its natural resources and ports?

[rangerrebew]

Russian submarine commander killed by gunman on morning run
Online news outlets claim that sub commander Stanislav Rzhitsky was involved in missile attack on Ukraine that killed 23 civilians.
 
Published On 11 Jul 2023
11 Jul 2023
A Russian submarine commander and deputy chief in charge of military mobilisation in Russia’s southern city of Krasnodar has been shot dead, Russia’s state TASS news agency reported, citing law enforcement bodies.

According to TASS, the official, Stanislav Rzhitsky, was killed by a gunman on Monday morning and a criminal case into the killing has been opened.
 
The slain official was also the commander of a Russian Black Sea Fleet submarine that local online news outlets in Ukraine claimed was responsible for launching Kalibr cruise missiles at Ukrainian targets.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/7/11/russian-submarine-commander-killed-by-gunman-on-morning-run

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Probably to traffic them into sexual slavery, serving their oligarchs.

Always thought Russians were basically decent humble people, but if that's true, that's just evil.

Edit: the reason I assumed it was to be rehomed with Russian mothers, is the large amount of women on the Zoom call.

[libertybele]

It's a pittance considering what we would have to pay if we have to fight the Russians ourselves.

So the only way to "save" Ukraine is to force an "unconditional surrender" and dissolution and absorption into Russia? Or else carve it up into a rump, with Russia taking all its natural resources and ports?

Pittance??  What $$ and munitions do we have to fight if a war is imposed on us??  China is waiting in the wings.  Also, consider all those terrorists and militants entering our country.

It IS wrong to continue to add fuel to the fire; a war between Russia and Ukraine has been going on for decades.  Brandon has been giving Z $$  and lining his pockets since he took office.  Wrong. Wrong. and Wrong.

Z continue to ask for $$ ... he claims he needs this or that in order to win.  Things continue to escalate and obviously not getting any better.

We should have never gotten involved in the first place.  It is their war, not ours.  Monetarily it has become our war!

[Kamaji]

Pittance??  What $$ and munitions do we have to fight if a war is imposed on us??  China is waiting in the wings.  Also, consider all those terrorists and militants entering our country.

It IS wrong to continue to add fuel to the fire; a war between Russia and Ukraine has been going on for decades.  Brandon has been giving Z $$  and lining his pockets since he took office.  Wrong. Wrong. and Wrong.

A war hasn't been going on between Ukraine and Russia for decades.  Russia agreed to respect Ukraine's sovereignty, and then, beginning most likely in 2014, decided to subvert that sovereignty.  In the meantime, the U.S. had also agreed to protect Ukraine's sovereignty as part of the bargain for convincing Ukraine to give up its nuclear weapons.  The U.S. has also not been giving Ukraine nothing but money - most of the "money" that has supposedly gone to Ukraine has not, in fact, gone anywheres but to the U.S. military; instead, what has gone has been used and sometimes out-of-date weapons, the original book cost of which we are charging against the amounts allocated to Ukraine.

[Timber Rattler]

Pittance??  What $$ and munitions do we have to fight if a war is imposed on us??  China is waiting in the wings.

It's far better to spend billions now and let the Ukrainians beat the Russians than having to do it ourselves 3-5 years later at a cost of trillions and thousands of American lives. 

Also, consider all those terrorists and militants entering our country.

You're conflating the issues.

It IS wrong to continue to add fuel to the fire;

So forcing Ukraine to unconditionally surrender to Putin and get absorbed into Russia is the Conservative solution?  Doesn't sound very American to me.

a war between Russia and Ukraine has been going on for decades.

 

That's not true.

Brandon has been giving Z $$  and lining his pockets since he took office.

You're conflating the issues again.  Sending arms and economic aid to Ukraine does NOT necessarily mean that Biden is "lining his pockets" from it.  That's just an assumption without direct proof.

Wrong. Wrong. and Wrong.

It's wrong allowing the Russians to overrun Ukraine, and then the Baltics, and ultimately Alaska (which the Russian want back!), killing hundreds of thousands and destroying countless cities and towns in the process.

Z continue to ask for $$ ... he claims he needs this or that in order to win.

Well, he DOES need it to win. 

We should have never gotten involved in the first place.  It is their war, not ours.  Monetarily it has become our war!

We got involved when the U.S. guaranteed Ukraine's security in 1994 in exchange for Ukraine giving up its nukes with which to protect itself from Russia.  It has been our war from the start.

[libertybele]

It's far better to spend billions now and let the Ukrainians beat the Russians than having to do it ourselves 3-5 years later at a cost of trillions and thousands of American lives. 

You're conflating the issues.

So forcing Ukraine to unconditionally surrender to Putin and get absorbed into Russia is the Conservative solution?  Doesn't sound very American to me.

I have not once suggested that Ukraine surrender to Putin.
 

That's not true.

You're conflating the issues again.  Sending arms and economic aid to Ukraine does NOT necessarily mean that Biden is "lining his pockets" from it.  That's just an assumption without direct proof.

I have posted several articles with links indicating that Biden & Co.., are lining their pockets.

It's wrong allowing the Russians to overrun Ukraine, and then the Baltics, and ultimately Alaska (which the Russian want back!), killing hundreds of thousands and destroying countless cities and towns in the process.

Obviously attacking Alaska would be a declaration of war -- then it IS our war.  Shelling out $$ to prevent what we think is going to happen is ridiculous.

Well, he DOES need it to win. 

How much $$ are we going to keep dumping??


We got involved when the U.S. guaranteed Ukraine's security in 1994 in exchange for Ukraine giving up its nukes with which to protect itself from Russia.  It has been our war from the start.

So even though Ukraine and Russia have been fighting for decades it's our war??? This goes way beyond 1994.

[Kamaji]

So even though Ukraine and Russia have been fighting for decades it's our war??? This goes way beyond 1994.

Except that they haven't been fighting for decades.  Prior to 1991 - which is just barely three decades ago - Ukraine was a component member of the Soviet Union.

[PeteS in CA]

Cultural genocide.

Between the Holodomor and efforts to end usage of the Ukrainian language, Soviet/Russian cultural genocide and cultural suppression date from the 1930s until Ukraine became independent. Alongside restoring the Czarist/Stalinist empire, Putin longs for those good old days.

[libertybele]

Time magazine did an article on "Zelensky's Cash Haul" -- dated, but needs to be acknowledged

https://time.com/6243285/zelenskys-cash-haul/

[libertybele]

Last month -- reporting of Brandon pocketing Ukraine money --  anyone still thinks Brandon isn't funneling money to Ukraine into his pocket?

https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/joe-biden-exposed-for-allegedly-pocketing-5-million-in-ukrainian-bribery-scheme/video/a0a9ec471ed6f94e553b5296580ae7fc

[Kamaji]

Time magazine did an article on "Zelensky's Cash Haul" -- dated, but needs to be acknowledged

https://time.com/6243285/zelenskys-cash-haul/

And where is the proof that this has all been siphoned off by Zelenskii - because that is the clear implication of your word-choice.

Or is it just a pavolvian response to Biden?

[PeteS in CA]

Time magazine did an article on "Zelensky's Cash Haul" -- dated, but needs to be acknowledged

https://time.com/6243285/zelenskys-cash-haul/

OK, $$ has gone to Ukraine, but as even Slime magazine pointed out in the article you linked, there is no evidence of fraud by Zelensky. OTOH, there is vast evidence that US aid is being used to fight Russian orcs.

[Kamaji]

Wagner mercenaries reportedly tried to steal backpack-size nukes during mutiny

By Snejana Farberov
July 11, 2023

Wagner Group mercenaries came dangerously close to entering a Russian nuclear base to steal nuclear weapons that could fit into a backpack to use as leverage during their short-lived mutiny last month, according to Ukraine’s chief spymaster.

While the main force of the rebels, directed by Wagner Group founder Yevgeny Prigozhin, rumbled toward Moscow on June 24, purportedly to capture Russia’s top military brass, a smaller group drove east en route to a fortified army base.

Kyrylo Budanov, the 37-year-old head of the Ukrainian Defense Intelligence Directorate, said the mercenaries’ target was Voronezh-45 — a well-guarded facility that purportedly stores small, Soviet-era nuclear bombs that can be carried by a single person in a backpack.

 “Because if you are prepared to fight until the last man standing, this is one of the facilities that significantly raises the stakes,” Budanov told Reuters in an exclusive interview.

The mutineers’ plot to get their hands on nuclear weapons only failed, according to Budanov, because “the doors of the storage were closed and they didn’t get into the technical section.”

The Ukrainian official did not say why Prigozhin’s fighters left the nuclear base without trying to force their way inside.

A source close to the Kremlin with ties to Russia’s military confirmed parts of Budanov’s account, saying that Wagner fighters “managed to get into a zone of special interest, as a result of which the Americans got agitated because nuclear munitions are stored there.”

The rebels’ attempt to steal nuclear explosives was apparently so alarming to the Kremlin that it prompted President Vladimir Putin to agree to a peace deal with Prigozhin, which was hastily brokered by Belarusian leader Alexander Lukashenko, according to a source in Russian-occupied eastern Ukraine.

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2023/07/11/wagner-mercenaries-tried-to-steal-nukes-during-mutiny/

[libertybele]

OK, $$ has gone to Ukraine, but as even Slime magazine pointed out in the article you linked, there is no evidence of fraud by Zelensky. OTOH, there is vast evidence that US aid is being used to fight Russian orcs.

Both Brandon and Zelensky are lining their pockets...Z is just took over for his predecessor who Hunter and Brandon were 'involved' with.

[Kamaji]

Both Brandon and Zelensky are lining their pockets...Z is just took over for his predecessor who Hunter and Brandon were 'involved' with.

Where is the proof of that claim?