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Re: DeSantis underwhelms Britain’s business chiefs
« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2023, 07:02:59 pm »
The truest thing Trump ever said was that he could go out onto Fifth Avenue and shoot someone in cold blood, and people like you would not only continue to support him, you'd cheer him on and justify his act of murder.

That's what happens when you follow a person rather than principles.

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« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2023, 06:24:41 pm »
Politico.  Nice going RIV.

This should help you feel better @cato potatoe  ---- it's more than Politico.  happy77







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Re: DeSantis underwhelms Britain’s business chiefs
« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2023, 06:55:19 pm »
This should help you feel better @cato potatoe  ---- it's more than Politico.  happy77



For someone who has this thing wrapped up, why so much vitriol @Right_in_Virginia ?

Seems the orangie toadies would try to get along at this point with conservatives.  You might need us later :cool:
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Re: DeSantis underwhelms Britain’s business chiefs
« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2023, 06:55:51 pm »
Well it certainly appears that the Trump's smear campaign against DeSantis and buying donors is working.  All this against a good conservative governor who hasn't even announced he's running.  Trump going after a true conservative speaks volumes.

Trump may become the Republican party nominee but those who think that the left will allow him to be re-elected are fooling themselves.  Another stolen election?  Incarceration?

Meanwhile, Trump, the GOPe and the leftists will have destroyed a true conservative.  Very sad, because our Republic will not survive another 4 years under liberal, leftist, socialist/marxist rule.
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« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2023, 06:57:47 pm »


Meanwhile, Trump, the GOPe and the leftists will have destroyed a true conservative.  Very sad, because our Republic will not survive another 4 years under liberal, leftist, socialist/marxist rule.

See 2016 Ted Cruz...

Soap, wash, rinse, spin....   repeat.
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Re: DeSantis underwhelms Britain’s business chiefs
« Reply #30 on: April 30, 2023, 07:05:51 pm »
See 2016 Ted Cruz...

Soap, wash, rinse, spin....   repeat.

Exactly - again, this time around Trump will NOT win the oval office.
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Re: DeSantis underwhelms Britain’s business chiefs
« Reply #31 on: April 30, 2023, 08:32:26 pm »
For someone who has this thing wrapped up, why so much vitriol @Right_in_Virginia ?

It's not vitrol @catfish1957  The poster seemed to suggest only Politico was reporting less than good news on DeSantis's week and that is why I posted the article.  Nothing could be further from the truth. 

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« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2023, 08:36:42 pm »
See 2016 Ted Cruz...

Soap, wash, rinse, spin....   repeat.

"Vote your conscience" ended Cruz's national political aspirations.  I have it on good authority this did not come from Trump.

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« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2023, 08:47:40 pm »
"Vote your conscience" ended Cruz's national political aspirations.  I have it on good authority this did not come from Trump.

So you are going 100% on record that Trump did and/or does not employ Stone and Pecker to do the dirty work?  The point was not his aspirations (Cruz), but how another competitive politican ruined it for him via slime, lies, and innuendo.

The Lyin' Ted meme still rings in the minds of many in our parts. So forgive us, for not trusting, liking or wanting this NYC POS politician to be POTUS again.   His silly recent socialist left turn just was the icing on the cake in my mind.

No slam at you, just your candidate.
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Re: DeSantis underwhelms Britain’s business chiefs
« Reply #34 on: April 30, 2023, 09:16:48 pm »
And your point?

Other than the blatant hypocrisy of applying a standard to one person that you do not apply to others?
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Re: DeSantis underwhelms Britain’s business chiefs
« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2023, 09:17:32 pm »
So you are going 100% on record that Trump did and/or does not ...

I'm going 100% on record that Cruz would have survived his primary defeat in 2016 as a viable national candidate in the Republican Party had he given a full-throated call for unity and support for Trump's victory in his convention speech instead of calling for the opposite.

He's made similar mistakes since then, but this is the one that buried his dreams ---- and it was a self-inflicted ending.

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« Reply #36 on: April 30, 2023, 09:21:00 pm »
And Trump was prepared in 2015?  Damn, you've gotten silly.

Trump isn't prepared now.  He is still sucking up to the same Establishment swamp rats as he did in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, and 2020.  It would have been so refreshing to see a President drain the swamp.  Clearly, Trump was not that guy.
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« Reply #37 on: April 30, 2023, 09:23:36 pm »
I'm going 100% on record that Cruz would have survived his primary defeat in 2016 as a viable national candidate in the Republican Party had he given a full-throated call for unity and support for Trump's victory in his convention speech instead of calling for the opposite.

He's made similar mistakes since then, but this is the one that buried his dreams ---- and it was a self-inflicted ending.

Cruz gave Trump a rundown on what a Conservative President should be.  And for some reason, 'act like a Conservative' offended Trump supporters.
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Re: DeSantis underwhelms Britain’s business chiefs
« Reply #38 on: April 30, 2023, 09:26:27 pm »
Cruz gave Trump a rundown on what a Conservative President should be.  And for some reason, 'act like a Conservative' offended Trump supporters.

Nope.

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Re: DeSantis underwhelms Britain’s business chiefs
« Reply #39 on: April 30, 2023, 09:27:33 pm »
This should help you feel better @cato potatoe  ---- it's more than Politico.  happy77


Oh, so now you love lefty media, when they're supporting your guy.

Left_in_Virginia should be your real name.
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« Reply #40 on: April 30, 2023, 09:29:34 pm »
I'm going 100% on record that Cruz would have survived his primary defeat in 2016 as a viable national candidate in the Republican Party had he given a full-throated call for unity and support for Trump's victory in his convention speech instead of calling for the opposite.

He's made similar mistakes since then, but this is the one that buried his dreams ---- and it was a self-inflicted ending.
After the smears your campaign put on him? And never apologized for? You had the audacity to demand a "call for unity"?
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« Reply #41 on: April 30, 2023, 09:31:13 pm »
Oh, and @Right_in_Virginia , along with the rest of the Trump campaign that employs her as an influencer, just LOVES running against someone who isn't even campaigning instead of running against Joe Biden.

Again, the President who donated to Cuomo and signed the country over to Fauci wants to pretend he's not just another New York City liberal.
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« Reply #42 on: April 30, 2023, 09:31:45 pm »
Re: the 2016 GOP Convention

The worst part of it was that it wasn't Trump supporters who started booing Cruz.  It was GOP Establishment delegates who initiated the chorus.  And Trump zealots continue to align themselves with the GOP Establishment instead of giving credit to the only candidate in the race willing to fight them - Ted Cruz.

"Drain the Swamp", my ass.
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Re: DeSantis underwhelms Britain’s business chiefs
« Reply #43 on: April 30, 2023, 09:32:59 pm »
Oh, so now you love lefty media, when they're supporting your guy.

Left_in_Virginia should be your real name.

Read the list again @jmyrlefuller ----- all of it.

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« Reply #44 on: April 30, 2023, 09:35:00 pm »
Read the list again @jmyrlefuller ----- all of it.
Other than your fellow Trump shills at Breitbart, it's mostly lefty outlets like Politico, The Hill, The New York Slimes, The "Independent" (ha!), MSNBC and The Daily Beast.
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« Reply #45 on: April 30, 2023, 09:35:23 pm »
Just to show who is pushing a false portrayal of Ted Cruz's speech, here is the full text:



Thank you. Thank you, and God bless each and every one of you. Heidi and I are so honored to join you here in Cleveland where LeBron James just led an incredible comeback victory. And I am convinced, America is going to come back, too.

I want to congratulate Donald Trump on winning the nomination last night. And like each of you, I want to see the principles of that our party believes prevail in November. Conventions are times of excitement, but given the events of the last few weeks, I hope you will allow me a moment to talk to you about what is really at stake.

Just two weeks ago, a nine-year-old girl named Caroline was having a carefree Texas summer, swimming in the pool, playing with friends, doing all of the things a happy child might do. Like most children, she relied upon the love that she received from her mom, Heidi, and her dad, a police sergeant named Michael Smith. That is, until he became one of the five police officers gunned down in Dallas.

The day her father was murdered, Caroline gave him a hug and a kiss as he left for work. But as they parted, her dad asked her something he hadn’t asked before. What if this is the last time you ever kiss or hug me? Later, as she thought of her fallen father, and that last heartbreaking hug, Caroline broke down in tears. How could anything ever be ok again?

Michael Smith was a former army ranger who spent three decades with the Dallas police department. I have no idea who he voted for in the last election or what he thought about this one. But his life was a testament to devotion. He protected the very protesters who mocked him because he loved his country and his fellow man. His work gave new meaning to that line from literature, to die of love is to live by it.

As I thought about what I wanted to say tonight, Michael Smith's story weighed on my heart maybe that is because his daughter Caroline is about the same age as my eldest daughter, and happens to share the same name. Maybe it is because I saw a video of that dear, sweet child choking back sobs as she remembered her daddy's last question to her.

Maybe it’s because we live in a world where so many others had their lives destroyed by evil in places like Orlando and Paris and Nice and Baton Rouge. Maybe it’s because of the simple question itself, what if this, right now, is our last time? Our last moment to do something for our families and our country? Did we live up to the values we say we believe? Did we do all we really could? That is really what this election should be about. That’s why you and millions like you devoted so much time and sacrifice to this campaign.

We’re fighting not for one particular candidate or one campaign, but because each of us wants to be able to tell our kids and grandkids, our own Carolines, that we did our best for their future and our country.

America is more than just a land mass between two oceans. America is an ideal, a simple but powerful idea. Freedom matters. For much of human history, government power has been the unavoidable constant in life. Government decrees and the people obey. But not here.

We have no king or queen, we have no dictator, we the people constrain government. Our nation is exceptional because it was built on the five most beautiful and powerful words in the English language, I want to be free.

Never has that message been more needed than today. We stand here tonight a nation divided. Partisan rancor, even hatred are tearing America apart and citizens are furious, rightly furious, at a political establishment that cynically breaks its promises and that ignores the will of the people.

We have to do better. We owe our fallen heroes more than that. Now, of course, Obama and Clinton will also tell you that they care about our children's future. And I want to believe them. But there is a profound difference in our two parties' vision for the future. Theirs is the party that thinks ISIS is a JV team. That responds to the death of Americans at Benghazi by asking, what difference does it make?

And that thinks it is possible to make a deal with Iran which celebrates its holidays, death to America day and death to Israel day. My friends, this is madness. President Obama is a man who does everything backwards. He wants to close Guantanamo Bay and open up our borders. He exports jobs and imports terrorists. Enough is enough.

And I am here to tell you there is a better vision for our future, a return to freedom. On education, your freedom to choose your child's education, even if you aren’t as rich as Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama. On health care, your freedom to choose your own doctor without Obamacare. On taxes, your freedom to provide for your family without the IRS beating down your door. The internet, keep it free from taxes, free from regulation, and do not give it away to Russia and China.

Freedom means free speech, not politically correct safe spaces. Freedom means religious freedom, whether you're Christian or Jew, Muslim or atheist. Whether you're gay or straight, the Bill of Rights protects the rights of all of us to live according to our conscience. Freedom means the right to keep and bear arms and protect your family. Freedom means that every human life is precious and must be protected.

Freedom means Supreme Court justices who do not dictate policy but instead, follow the Constitution. And freedom means recognizing that our Constitution allows states to choose policies that reflect local values. Colorado might decide something different than Texas. New York, different than Iowa. That is the way it is supposed to be, diversity. If not, what is the point of having states to begin with?

Hillary Clinton believes government should make virtually every choice in your life. Education, health care, marriage, speech, all dictated out of Washington. But something powerful is happening. We have seen it in both parties. We have seen it in the United Kingdom’s unprecedented Brexit vote to leave the European Union.

Voters are overwhelmingly rejecting the political establishment and overwhelmingly rejecting big government. That is a profound victory, and it is one earned by each and every one of you. People are fed up with politicians who don’t listen to them. Fed up with a corrupt system that benefits the elites instead of working men and women. We deserve an immigration system that puts America first, and yes, builds a wall to keep America safe.

A government, a government that stops admitting ISIS terrorists as refugees. We deserve trade policies that put the interests of American farmers and manufacturing jobs over the global interests that are funding the lobbyists. And if we stand together and choose freedom, our future will be brighter. Freedom will bring back jobs and raise wages. Freedom will lift people out of dependency to the dignity of work.

We can do this. 47 years ago, to this day, America put the very first man on the moon. That was the power of freedom. Our party, the Republican Party, was founded to defeat slavery. Abraham Lincoln, the first Republican president, signed the Emancipation Proclamation. Together, we passed the Civil Rights Act, and together, we thought to eliminate Jim Crow laws.

That is our collective legacy, although the media will never share it with you. Those were fights for freedom, and so is this. Sergeant Michael Smith stood up to protect our freedom, so do the soldiers and sailors and airmen and Marines every day, fighting radical Islamic terrorism. And so did the family of Alton Sterling, who bravely called to end the violence.

So did the families of those murdered at the Charleston Emmanuel AME church over who forgave that hateful, bigoted murderer. And so can we. We deserve leaders who stand for principle, who unite us all behind shared values, who cast aside anger for love. That is the standard we should expect from everybody. And to those listening, please, don’t stay home in November.

If you love our country, and love your children as much as I know that you do, stand and speak and vote your conscience, vote for candidates up and down the ticket who you trust to defend our freedom and to be faithful to the Constitution.

I appreciate the enthusiasm of the New York delegation. And I will tell you, it is love of freedom that has allowed millions to achieve their dreams. Like my mom, the first and her family to go to college, and my my dad, who is here tonight, who fled prison and torture in Cuba, coming to Texas with just $100 sewn into his underwear. And it is love that I hope will bring comfort to a grieving nine-year-old girl in Dallas.

And God willing, propel her to move forward and dream, and soar and make her daddy proud. We must make the most of our moments to fight for freedom, to protect our God-given rights, even if -- even with those with whom we do not agree. So that when we are old and gray, and when our work is done and we give those we love one final kiss goodbye, we will be able to say, freedom matters and I was part of something beautiful.

The case we have to make to the American people, the case each person in this room has to make to the American people, is to commit to each of them that we will defend freedom and be faithful to the Constitution.

We will unite the party, we will unite the country, by standing together for shared values by standing for liberty. God bless each and every one of you, and God bless the United States of America.


https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/full-text-ted-cruzs-2016-republican-national-convention/story?id=40768272
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Re: DeSantis underwhelms Britain’s business chiefs
« Reply #46 on: April 30, 2023, 09:37:25 pm »
Oh, and @Right_in_Virginia , along with the rest of the Trump campaign that employs her as an influencer, just LOVES running against someone who isn't even campaigning instead of running against Joe Biden.

Again, the President who donated to Cuomo and signed the country over to Fauci wants to pretend he's not just another New York City liberal.

Your ignorance is showing, again @jmyrlefuller

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« Reply #47 on: April 30, 2023, 09:39:21 pm »
I have no problem voting my conscience over these words below:

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We’re fighting not for one particular candidate or one campaign, but because each of us wants to be able to tell our kids and grandkids, our own Carolines, that we did our best for their future and our country.

America is more than just a land mass between two oceans. America is an ideal, a simple but powerful idea. Freedom matters. For much of human history, government power has been the unavoidable constant in life. Government decrees and the people obey. But not here.

We have no king or queen, we have no dictator, we the people constrain government. Our nation is exceptional because it was built on the five most beautiful and powerful words in the English language, I want to be free.

Never has that message been more needed than today. We stand here tonight a nation divided. Partisan rancor, even hatred are tearing America apart and citizens are furious, rightly furious, at a political establishment that cynically breaks its promises and that ignores the will of the people.

We have to do better. We owe our fallen heroes more than that.  .  .

And I am here to tell you there is a better vision for our future, a return to freedom. On education, your freedom to choose your child's education, even if you aren’t as rich as Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama. On health care, your freedom to choose your own doctor without Obamacare. On taxes, your freedom to provide for your family without the IRS beating down your door. The internet, keep it free from taxes, free from regulation, and do not give it away to Russia and China.

Freedom means free speech, not politically correct safe spaces. Freedom means religious freedom, whether you're Christian or Jew, Muslim or atheist. Whether you're gay or straight, the Bill of Rights protects the rights of all of us to live according to our conscience. Freedom means the right to keep and bear arms and protect your family. Freedom means that every human life is precious and must be protected.

So tell me, @Right_in_Virginia what part of this offends you?
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« Reply #48 on: April 30, 2023, 09:39:47 pm »
Other than your fellow Trump shills at Breitbart, it's mostly lefty outlets like Politico, The Hill, The New York Slimes, The "Independent" (ha!), MSNBC and The Daily Beast.

Your boy had a bad week.  Deal with it instead of whining. @jmyrlefuller   

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« Reply #49 on: April 30, 2023, 09:41:02 pm »
After the smears your campaign put on him? And never apologized for? You had the audacity to demand a "call for unity"?

Sounds like something a Democrat would do.  Oh, wait . . .
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