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FBI Used Database of ‘Incidental Collection’ Info about U.S. Citizens 3.4M Times – 30% in Error – Re
« on: April 27, 2023, 08:37:38 pm »
FBI Used Database of ‘Incidental Collection’ Info about U.S. Citizens 3.4M Times – 30% in Error – Rep. Jordan Reveals

The Justice Department has a database of “incidental collection” information about U.S. citizens, which ten thousand DOJ employees can access – and 30% of the 3.4 million times they did so last year were in error, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) revealed Thursday.

The news came out at a House Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime and Federal Government Surveillance hearing, as Judiciary Chair Jordan questioned U.S. Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board members Sharon Franklin and Beth Williams.

The FBI is refusing to reveal, or even estimate, how many Americans are in the “incidental collection” database, or much information about them has been incidentally acquired, they testified.

What’s more, the Justice Department is conducting these investigations of U.S. citizens without probable cause, Rep. Jordan explained:

    “Americans are being picked up in this ‘incidental collection.’

    “We don’t know the number. My guess is it’s pretty darn big. They won’t tell us.

    “And, without probable cause, that database is being searched 3.4 million times – with all kinds of error rates, as Mr. Gates [R-Fla.], in his round of question, determined earlier.”.............

https://mrctv.org/blog/fbi-used-database-incidental-collection-info-about-us-citizens-34m-times-30-error-rep-jordan

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Re: FBI Used Database of ‘Incidental Collection’ Info about U.S. Citizens 3.4M Times – 30% in Error
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2023, 08:49:00 pm »
What IS that giggling? Oh.  Its the NSA.
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Re: FBI Used Database of ‘Incidental Collection’ Info about U.S. Citizens 3.4M Times – 30% in Error
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2023, 09:12:20 pm »
Americans are being picked up in this "incidental collection".   That is terrifying to me.
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Re: FBI Used Database of ‘Incidental Collection’ Info about U.S. Citizens 3.4M Times – 30% in Error
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2023, 09:15:51 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on April 27, 2023, 09:12:20 pm
Americans are being picked up in this "incidental collection".   That is terrifying to me.

Aw shucks @libertybele  don' t be worried about the FBI. The IRS has your number.   wink777
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Re: FBI Used Database of ‘Incidental Collection’ Info about U.S. Citizens 3.4M Times – 30% in Error
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2023, 09:22:39 pm »
Quote from: bigheadfred on April 27, 2023, 09:15:51 pm
Aw shucks @libertybele  don' t be worried about the FBI. The IRS has your number.   wink777

Indeed.  Not so sure about the FBI.  **nononono*  :patriot:
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Re: FBI Used Database of ‘Incidental Collection’ Info about U.S. Citizens 3.4M Times – 30% in Error
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2023, 09:24:29 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on April 27, 2023, 09:12:20 pm
Americans are being picked up in this "incidental collection".   That is terrifying to me.


Exactly.
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Re: FBI Used Database of ‘Incidental Collection’ Info about U.S. Citizens 3.4M Times – 30% in Error
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2023, 09:29:21 pm »
Quote from: bigheadfred on April 27, 2023, 08:49:00 pm
What IS that giggling? Oh.  Its the NSA.

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Re: FBI Used Database of ‘Incidental Collection’ Info about U.S. Citizens 3.4M Times – 30% in Error
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2023, 09:33:15 pm »
Well, thankfully there is The Bill of Rights!!  Oh wait, that's been thrown out the window.  8888crybaby
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Re: FBI Used Database of ‘Incidental Collection’ Info about U.S. Citizens 3.4M Times – 30% in Error
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2023, 09:44:05 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on April 27, 2023, 09:12:20 pm
Americans are being picked up in this "incidental collection".   That is terrifying to me.

Ever post a meme of Michelle Obama aka Big Mike?   

YOU'RE ON THE LIST!!!    :yowsa:      :beer:
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Re: FBI Used Database of ‘Incidental Collection’ Info about U.S. Citizens 3.4M Times – 30% in Error
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2023, 09:52:08 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on April 27, 2023, 09:44:05 pm
Ever post a meme of Michelle Obama aka Big Mike?   

YOU'RE ON THE LIST!!!    :yowsa:      :beer:

...hmmm should I plead the 5th?
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Re: FBI Used Database of ‘Incidental Collection’ Info about U.S. Citizens 3.4M Times – 30% in Error
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2023, 09:55:21 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on April 27, 2023, 09:52:08 pm
...hmmm should I plead the 5th?

LOL!  My point being that they have skads of people whose sole job is to surf conservative sites and note posters who appear 'extreme' to them.

They are identified and placed on 'THE LIST'.
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