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Re: Trump tells Disney to move OUT of Florida in their war with Ron DeSantis
« Reply #100 on: April 24, 2023, 05:15:06 pm »
@sneakypete - I just like to ask you to consider these two points you've made:


Trump was never going to get the "Miss Manners" vote to start with. That is the major reason I will vote for him. The LAST thing we need is another career politician in the WH after the next election....Yes,he is attacking DeSantis,and I don't blame him for that. First of all,he is running for President and DeSantis is too,even though he hasn't announced it yet. What do you expect him to do,play  kissy-face with a guy trying to beat him out of the last chance he will ever have to become President?

In other words, you like the fact that Trump sets a goal, goes for it hard, and doesn't let any obstacles get in his way. But then:




BTW,IF DeSantis does run for President,I will never vote for him because he has proven beyond any doubt that if it fits his personal needs/ego he will stick a knife in the back of anyone.

First, I doubt that DeSantis ever promised Trump he would not run for President in 2024, because if he would have, Trump surely would have mentioned that.

But second, isn't DeSantis just taking the same hard-nosed approach towards winning that you admire in Trump?  He wants to be President, sees this as a great moment because of the particular issues confronting the country and because of the likely weakness of the Democratic opponent, so he's running.  Expecting him to play the nice, deferential guy while extolling Trump precisely for not being that kind of guy just seems a little inconsistent to me.

If Trump is willing to bulldoze over all all opposition, including Republicans, in his quest for the nomination, why shouldn't every other Republican be entitled to do the exact same thing?
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Re: Trump tells Disney to move OUT of Florida in their war with Ron DeSantis
« Reply #101 on: April 24, 2023, 06:02:18 pm »
That neither excuses nor justifies Trump's childish, paranoid, utterly idiotic, treatment of DeSantis.

In case you haven't noticed yet, even on TBR, Trump's behavior is pushing more and more people away from him.

It's divisive as hell! Even if he wins the primary, when he's done being a lying sack of crap against DeSantis, how many of DeSantis' fans will find it in themselves to vote for him in the general? And more importantly, how much of the DeSantis machine will be willing to come under Tumpy's command? And even if he somehow wins the general (which I can't see happening), how many of those he pissed off with these tactics will be willing to turn and follow him into an administration?

We already know that answer - VERY few - That's why he got boxed into the White House and could do nothing except govern by EO the last time. Welcome to Deja Vue... if what's happening feels familiar, it's because it happened before...

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Re: Trump tells Disney to move OUT of Florida in their war with Ron DeSantis
« Reply #102 on: April 24, 2023, 06:05:17 pm »
@Kamaji

Trump was never going to get the "Miss Manners" vote to start with. That is the major reason I will vote for him. The LAST thing we need is another career politician in the WH after the next election.

Don't get me wrong. From what little I know of DeSantas,I STILL support him as Trumps VP running mate. Trump can only sit for one term and then he "times out",leaving DeSantis in the catbird seat with 4 years of actual experience at "REAL LIFE" politics at the top,so when Trump times out,he can hit the ground running and already know all the circumstances and characters he will have to deal with.

However,if DeSantis runs against Trump in the primary,I  wouldn't urinate on him if he was on fire. Well,maybe just a little.

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And there ya go. Division. That's what you are speaking.
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Re: Trump tells Disney to move OUT of Florida in their war with Ron DeSantis
« Reply #103 on: April 24, 2023, 06:06:33 pm »
It's not about Ms. Manners, or any other pathetic excuse for Trump's behavior.  It's about him launching stupid, false attacks against a fellow republican, leaving Biden and the democrats alone, and coming up with policy offerings that look, smell, and cost, exactly like standard garden-variety liberal policy offerings.

One could be forgiven for viewing Trump as just another democrat at this point.

When does Trumpy propose to start actually explaining why he's a better alternative to Biden, instead of engaging in character assassination against a republican governor who isn't even running right now?

EXACTLY right.

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Re: Trump tells Disney to move OUT of Florida in their war with Ron DeSantis
« Reply #104 on: April 24, 2023, 06:09:24 pm »
:beer: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:  DeSantis isn't just any governor, he is a true conservative and that is why it is so troubling that Trump is going after him. 

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The DEMS have been able to control Trump. DeSantis has proven that Big Brother won't control him.

Trump is now a RINO con.  He will NEVER get my vote.

That's right. Except Tumpy ALWAYS WAS a RINO con... All the way along.

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Re: Trump tells Disney to move OUT of Florida in their war with Ron DeSantis
« Reply #105 on: April 24, 2023, 06:09:50 pm »
That's right. Except Tumpy ALWAYS WAS a RINO con... All the way along.

Exactly
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Re: Trump tells Disney to move OUT of Florida in their war with Ron DeSantis
« Reply #106 on: April 24, 2023, 06:14:46 pm »
@Kamaji

Yes,he is attacking DeSantis,and I don't blame him for that. First of all,he is running for President and DeSantis is too,even though he hasn't announced it yet. What do you expect him to do,play  kissy-face with a guy trying to beat him out of the last chance he will ever have to become President?

BTW,IF DeSantis does run for President,I will never vote for him because he has proven beyond any doubt that if it fits his personal needs/ego he will stick a knife in the back of anyone.

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AGAIN... REMARKABLE division.

No one is asking him to play kissy face. He is generating outright lies and leaning on Democrat lies to destroy the man. Utter obliteration. AND HE AIN'T EVEN RUNNING as of yet.

What you don't understand is that this division is sowing ruination, whether you win or not.

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Re: Trump tells Disney to move OUT of Florida in their war with Ron DeSantis
« Reply #107 on: April 24, 2023, 06:20:49 pm »
44% of republicans, 63% of independents, and 93% of democrats do not want him to run for president.  What does Trump choose to do about this?  He spends primary season making himself toxic to people with whom he needs universal support. 

What is lost on his warrior-fanatics is the danger that Trump guarantees a left-wing future for America.  Millennials and Gen Z need to moderate their voting habits if conservatism is to survive.  Many of them can be reasoned with.  They won't switch sides if they hate the people republicans nominate.

That's right. And the primaries are supposed to be 'on the issues'... a battle of competing ideas ... Not wallowing in dross and throwing monkey sh*t at each other.

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Re: Trump tells Disney to move OUT of Florida in their war with Ron DeSantis
« Reply #108 on: April 24, 2023, 06:22:10 pm »
Antagonizing businesses for political purposes is a long-term net-loose strategy ... may shrink tax base if companies decide to move ... Libs chased Smith & Wesson out of Springfield, MA, to Tennessee.

Taxes and lack of tax breaks have lead many financial service firm operations leave for the Carolinas, Florida, and Texas.

Businesses can shutdown or move.  Other states would kill to have the tax revenue that Disney World 2.0 would bring to their states.
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Re: Trump tells Disney to move OUT of Florida in their war with Ron DeSantis
« Reply #109 on: April 24, 2023, 06:27:07 pm »
Antagonizing businesses for political purposes is a long-term net-loose strategy ... may shrink tax base if companies decide to move ... Libs chased Smith & Wesson out of Springfield, MA, to Tennessee.

Taxes and lack of tax breaks have lead many financial service firm operations leave for the Carolinas, Florida, and Texas.

Businesses can shutdown or move.  Other states would kill to have the tax revenue that Disney World 2.0 would bring to their states.

So SUPPORT and defend Disney's pedophilia and child grooming, and give them shelter because of their taxes?

Oh, HELL NO!

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Re: Trump tells Disney to move OUT of Florida in their war with Ron DeSantis
« Reply #110 on: April 24, 2023, 06:55:16 pm »
Antagonizing businesses for political purposes is a long-term net-loose strategy ... may shrink tax base if companies decide to move ... Libs chased Smith & Wesson out of Springfield, MA, to Tennessee.

Disney brought it on themselves, first with the promise to overturn the anti-grooming law, and then with the political corruption at Reedy Creek.  Moving WDW out of Orlando is cost prohibitive, so DeSantis knows he has a fair bit of leeway.

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Re: Trump tells Disney to move OUT of Florida in their war with Ron DeSantis
« Reply #111 on: April 24, 2023, 07:12:49 pm »
Disney is a multi-national, multi-billion corporation.

They can write off any losses associated with the closing or moving the Orlando parks against future profits.

Disney can move all financial assets of value away from Orlando parks, and spin-off the Orlando parks as a separate corporation, bereft of assets, to enter liquidation bankruptcy.  The laid-off employees and lost tax revenues would be DeSantis' problems.

New Mexico would be a great location for a replacement of the Anaheim and Orlando theme parks - lots of available land, no earthquakes, no hurricanes, no Gavin Newsom, and no Ron DeSantis.
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Re: Trump tells Disney to move OUT of Florida in their war with Ron DeSantis
« Reply #112 on: April 24, 2023, 07:21:14 pm »
Disney is a multi-national, multi-billion corporation.

They can write off any losses associated with the closing or moving the Orlando parks against future profits.

Disney can move all financial assets of value away from Orlando parks, and spin-off the Orlando parks as a separate corporation, bereft of assets, to enter liquidation bankruptcy.  The laid-off employees and lost tax revenues would be DeSantis' problems.

New Mexico would be a great location for a replacement of the Anaheim and Orlando theme parks - lots of available land, no earthquakes, no hurricanes, no Gavin Newsom, and no Ron DeSantis.

You're not taking into consideration what would be involved in relocating WDW. It would bankrupt them. They aren't going anywhere and they are going to have to eat the shit sandwich they created for themselves with their woke policies and statements.
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Re: Trump tells Disney to move OUT of Florida in their war with Ron DeSantis
« Reply #113 on: April 24, 2023, 07:22:38 pm »
Once again, Trump did not tell Disney to move out of Florida.  He warned DeSantis to stop f*#king around:

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DeSanctus is being absolutely destroyed by Disney. His original P.R. plan fizzled, so now he’s going back with a new one in order to save face. Disney’s next move will be the announcement that no more money will be invested in Florida because of the Governor - In fact, they could even announce a slow withdrawal or sale of certain properties, or the whole thing. Watch! That would be a killer. In the meantime, this is all so unnecessary, a political STUNT! Ron should work on the squatter mess.

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-calls-desantis-war-disney-unnecessary-says-needs-work-squatter-mess?intcmp=tw_fnc

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Re: Trump tells Disney to move OUT of Florida in their war with Ron DeSantis
« Reply #114 on: April 24, 2023, 07:27:58 pm »
   If I remember correctly GHWB and Carter did not run on their perspective records when they seeked reelection either, same as Trump and their record was equally dismal.  Just give me another 4 years and I'll show ya! 
   We know how those turned out.
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Re: Trump tells Disney to move OUT of Florida in their war with Ron DeSantis
« Reply #115 on: April 24, 2023, 07:38:39 pm »
   If I remember correctly GHWB and Carter did not run on their perspective records when they seeked reelection either, same as Trump and their record was equally dismal.  Just give me another 4 years and I'll show ya! 
   We know how those turned out.

Please, stop making up shit. 

Trump has been diligent in presenting his policies for his next term. ---- as I have in posting the, right here in Briefer City.

Trump is also running on his record.  In his speeches, he begins with: "Four years of peace and prosperity" ----- and ends 15 minutes later with: "And together we will finish what we started!". The applause is deafening and sustained.





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Re: Trump tells Disney to move OUT of Florida in their war with Ron DeSantis
« Reply #116 on: April 24, 2023, 07:39:21 pm »
Please, stop making up shit.  Trump is most assuredly running on his record.  In his speeches, he begins with: "Four years of peace and prosperity" ----- and ends 15 minutes later with: "And together we will finish what we started!". The applause is deafening and sustained.

Ahh, so he's running on his made-up record, not his actual record.

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Re: Trump tells Disney to move OUT of Florida in their war with Ron DeSantis
« Reply #117 on: April 24, 2023, 07:47:14 pm »
Ahh, so he's running on his made-up record, not his actual record.

Actually, he's running on both.  Trump has been diligent in presenting his policies for his next term. ---- as I have in posting the, right here in Briefer City.

Thanks for the quick catch @Kamaji and for giving me the opportunity to clarify and edit my original posi.  Appreciate both.

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Re: Trump tells Disney to move OUT of Florida in their war with Ron DeSantis
« Reply #118 on: April 24, 2023, 07:47:18 pm »
   I'll finish the wall, find the drain plug on the swamp AND order my AG Omarosa to prosecute bidet.....

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« Reply #119 on: April 24, 2023, 07:50:09 pm »
Disney is a multi-national, multi-billion corporation.

They can write off any losses associated with the closing or moving the Orlando parks against future profits.

Disney can move all financial assets of value away from Orlando parks, and spin-off the Orlando parks as a separate corporation, bereft of assets, to enter liquidation bankruptcy.  The laid-off employees and lost tax revenues would be DeSantis' problems.

New Mexico would be a great location for a replacement of the Anaheim and Orlando theme parks - lots of available land, no earthquakes, no hurricanes, no Gavin Newsom, and no Ron DeSantis.

Yeah, I don’t think “ I forced Disney to leave my state” would earn him a Gold Star

But, AOC chased Amazon out of her district and got reelected so there is that
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Re: Trump tells Disney to move OUT of Florida in their war with Ron DeSantis
« Reply #120 on: April 24, 2023, 07:58:00 pm »
Actually, he's running on both.  Trump has been diligent in presenting his policies for his next term. ---- as I have in posting the, right here in Briefer City.

Thanks for the quick catch @Kamaji and for giving me the opportunity to clarify and edit my original posi.  Appreciate both.

Yeah, like his proposals for 20th century old-school leftist/socialist spending.  Uh-huh.  You're not helping his case.

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« Reply #121 on: April 24, 2023, 08:11:29 pm »
Yeah, like his proposals for 20th century old-school leftist/socialist spending.  Uh-huh.  You're not helping his case.

One of a dozen, to date.  Relax, no one expects you will like them all.  And, if it turns out you like none of Trump's proposals, then the problem might just be yours.  So, worry not ----- I'm not hurting his case.   happy77


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Re: Trump tells Disney to move OUT of Florida in their war with Ron DeSantis
« Reply #122 on: April 24, 2023, 08:28:27 pm »
----- I'm not hurting his case.   happy77

So is that an admission that his case (election) is more important to you and paramount than the merits of the particulars of his proposed policies?

At least you are being honest about it.  :cool:
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Re: Trump tells Disney to move OUT of Florida in their war with Ron DeSantis
« Reply #123 on: April 24, 2023, 08:30:16 pm »
One of a dozen, to date.  Relax, no one expects you will like them all.  And, if it turns out you like none of Trump's proposals, then the problem might just be yours.  So, worry not ----- I'm not hurting his case.   happy77



Actually, yes, you are hurting his case.  Perhaps not as much as he is hurting his own case, with his petulant, childish fixation on assassinating characters of people he's afraid of, and his left-wing policy nostrums, but yes, you are hurting his case.

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Re: Trump tells Disney to move OUT of Florida in their war with Ron DeSantis
« Reply #124 on: April 24, 2023, 08:30:26 pm »
Holy freakin' smokes.....   You can say that after the Orange turd's behavior during the '16 primaries?  That's beyond the realm of ironic funny.

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