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Trump Calls to Defund the Police
« on: April 05, 2023, 03:33:05 pm »
 

Former President Donald Trump demanded his Republican allies in Congress defund the FBI and the Justice Department.


A day after being charged with 34 felony counts of falsifying business records, Trump took to social media and proclaimed, “Almost every legal and political analyst has said that the unfair and morally disgusting Indictment filed against me yesterday has NO MERIT, and is not even a case.”

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Trump Calls to Defund the Police After His Own Arrest
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2023, 03:51:19 pm »

Former President Donald Trump demanded his Republican allies in Congress defund the FBI and the Justice Department.


A day after being charged with 34 felony counts of falsifying business records, Trump took to social media and proclaimed, “Almost every legal and political analyst has said that the unfair and morally disgusting Indictment filed against me yesterday has NO MERIT, and is not even a case.”


“There was no crime,” he said, “and, anyway, the Statute of Limitations has been violated by many years.”


While the debate over the strength of the indictment continues, Trump was warned yesterday that he could be put under a gag order if he continues to attack prosecutors in the case. That didn’t stop the former president from ranting against his foes in his Mar-a-Lago speech, and thus, his next Truth Social message was more in character with his recent all-caps rage postings:


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Re: Trump Calls to Defund the Police After His Own Arrest
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2023, 04:32:55 pm »
Exactly how does defunding the DOJ and FBI stop the corruption and partisanship?
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Re: Trump Calls to Defund the Police After His Own Arrest
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2023, 06:28:57 pm »
Exactly how does defunding the DOJ and FBI stop the corruption and partisanship?


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Re: Trump Calls to Defund the Police
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2023, 07:17:28 pm »
Does he realize that he was indicted by New York, and that the FBI and DOJ had nothing to do with that?

I suppose he probably doesn't understand the difference anyway.

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Re: Trump Calls to Defund the Police
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2023, 07:19:29 pm »
I am not a Trump supporter but I can smell  disingenuous trolling a mile away.

You can do better than that.
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Re: Trump Calls to Defund the Police After His Own Arrest
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2023, 07:22:45 pm »
I'd be more curious to know how defunding the FBI and DOJ would stop a prosecution by the state of New York.

I mean, I understand the guy must have cheated on any civics/government classes he took, but you'd hope he may have learned and retained at least something.

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Re: Trump Calls to Defund the Police After His Own Arrest
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2023, 07:55:24 pm »
I don't know what his thinking is, other than he knows his goose is cooked and he is desperately crying out for help especially to those GOP who served during his administration.

His supporters so far are silent; if he was a leftist they would be burning cities down by now.  I realize that's exactly what the left was hoping for and Trump himself thought he'd see an uprising.

Prayers up for former President Trump and his family.  I feel mostly for young Barron; watching his father indicted, the porn star involvement, etc.  How is he to deal with all of this???

America.  What are we going to do without her?  China, Russia, N. Korea and lately I hear Malaysia are all on board to do away with the U.S. dollar. What then? 

I don't see any coming back from this.
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Re: Trump Calls to Defund the Police
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2023, 08:01:58 pm »
I take issue with Trump not calming the riots as he promised after George Flyod was killed and consequently law enforcement in areas being defunded.  This is exactly why I will not vote for Trump again.  The way things are going, I don't see him able to run again anyways.

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Re: Trump Calls to Defund the Police After His Own Arrest
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2023, 08:04:04 pm »

America.  What are we going to do without her?  China, Russia, N. Korea and lately I hear Malaysia are all on board to do away with the U.S. dollar. What then? 



Did not hear that about Malaysia.  It's just a matter of time now. 

I did read todaty that BRICS has now exceeded the G7 in GDP. 
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Re: Trump Calls to Defund the Police
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2023, 08:10:37 pm »
I am not a Trump supporter but I can smell  disingenuous trolling a mile away.

You can do better than that.

Actually, I can't.  He constantly says things that make me think he doesn't understand how the government/Constitutiom actually work.

I suppose the other alternative is that he actually does understand how they work, but figures his supporters don't so he can just fire up his base with constitutional gibberish.  I honestly don't know which would be worse.

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Re: Trump Calls to Defund the Police
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2023, 08:14:35 pm »
I am not a Trump supporter but I can smell  disingenuous trolling a mile away.

You can do better than that.

Too many news outlets are now reporting this, so I doubt it is false.
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Re: Trump Calls to Defund the Police After His Own Arrest
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2023, 08:42:28 pm »
I'd be more curious to know how defunding the FBI and DOJ would stop a prosecution by the state of New York.

I mean, I understand the guy must have cheated on any civics/government classes he took, but you'd hope he may have learned and retained at least something.

Indeed!!!

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Re: Trump Calls to Defund the Police
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2023, 08:44:11 pm »
Reading in a tad deeper, I can understand where he is coming from, though the idea of carte blanche' defunding is not practical or wise.

OTOH, if the GOP in Congress can ID the specific factions that are weaponizing the DOJ's and FBI's enforcement encroachment.....   I'd be all for it.  But I got to agree with prior posters that the optics on this don't help his case.

Becasue honestly, I am now of the opinion our FBI/DOJ are an American Gestapo.  Though, I do know there are probably some good apples left, but they  are too afraid to speak up.
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Re: Trump Calls to Defund the Police
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2023, 08:52:28 pm »
DUH!!!

It's was James Comey's FBI and John Brennan's CIA that started this entire mess, with a complicit Democrat Party Leadership and Administration.

It's just another way of saying the agencies should be dismantled and restructured.  Checks and balances.
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Re: Trump Calls to Defund the Police
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2023, 08:55:26 pm »
DUH!!!

It's was James Comey's FBI and John Brennan's CIA that started this entire mess, with a complicit Democrat Party Leadership and Administration.

It's just another way of saying the agencies should be dismantled and restructured.  Checks and balances.

Checks and balances? No longer.  The agencies should be dismantled and restructured but that's never going to happen.  The powers that be, and the corrupt DOJ have a stranglehold on this country and right now from what I can tell they have a stranglehold on Trump.
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« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2023, 08:55:47 pm »
DUH!!!

It's was James Comey's FBI and John Brennan's CIA that started this entire mess, with a complicit Democrat Party Leadership and Administration.

It's just another way of saying the agencies should be dismantled and restructured.  Checks and balances.

Considering Trump's home gets raided by the FBI over a records retention issue, while Biden's son's laptop has smoking gun evidence of influence peddling to the Chicoms, and they do nothing? 

I don't know  how or. what dismantlinig or reorganizaton looks like, but bleeping something has to be done.
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Re: Trump Calls to Defund the Police After His Own Arrest
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2023, 08:59:08 pm »
His supporters so far are silent;

No, they're not @libertybele   They're talking with their wallets ----- nearly $12 million has been contributed since the indictment and the contributions are still flowing.  The growing number of supporters are also talking to pollsters with Trump leading by impressive margins in primary polls.  He's also now polling 10 points over Biden.

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Tump himself thought he'd see an uprising.

I'm not sure what you mean by this, but it sounds like unhelpful and dangerous hyperbole.  I hope you can rein this in.

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« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2023, 09:15:11 pm »
No, they're not @libertybele   They're talking with their wallets ----- nearly $12 million has been contributed since the indictment and the contributions are still flowing.  The growing number of supporters are also talking to pollsters with Trump leading by impressive margins in primary polls.  He's also now polling 10 points over Biden.



Didn't see any valid ones showing 10, but Raz had him up 7 today, and that's a pretty impressive turnaround.
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Re: Trump Calls to Defund the Police After His Own Arrest
« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2023, 09:21:05 pm »
No, they're not @libertybele   They're talking with their wallets ----- nearly $12 million has been contributed since the indictment and the contributions are still flowing.  The growing number of supporters are also talking to pollsters with Trump leading by impressive margins in primary polls.  He's also now polling 10 points over Biden.

I'm not sure what you mean by this, but it sounds like unhelpful and dangerous hyperbole.  I hope you can rein this in.

I stand corrected. He did not use the term uprising.!!!  He did ask his supporters to protest. Very different terms.

Yes, I have been bombarded by texts asking for $$$. That however isn't going to make the 34 charges go away. What good are campaign contributions if he is unable to run??

Polls are meaningless IMO. He can be 50 pts. ahead but at the end of the day, votes counted on election day and the outcome is all that matters.  One election was stolen, what and who is preventing them from stealing another?

Just to clairfy @Right_in_Virginia I think Trump was a very good president and I absolutely feel that what is happening to him is wrong.  I do fear for his health and safety.
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Re: Trump Calls to Defund the Police After His Own Arrest
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2023, 10:56:03 am »
Exactly how does defunding the DOJ and FBI stop the corruption and partisanship?
Considering the FBI was weaponized against Trump (and the crowd on 1/6)along with the rest of the DOJ, cutting their funds and not building them a new building is a good start at cutting the corruption evident in their ranks. Add in their influence on social media platforms as part of a conspiracy to deprive Americans of their First Amendment Rights and maintain the narratives of the entire COVID debacle, andI would not willingly fund such efforts either.
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Re: Trump Calls to Defund the Police After His Own Arrest
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2023, 12:31:51 pm »
Considering the FBI was weaponized against Trump (and the crowd on 1/6)along with the rest of the DOJ, cutting their funds and not building them a new building is a good start at cutting the corruption evident in their ranks. Add in their influence on social media platforms as part of a conspiracy to deprive Americans of their First Amendment Rights and maintain the narratives of the entire COVID debacle, andI would not willingly fund such efforts either.

All good points
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Re: Trump Calls to Defund the Police
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2023, 10:08:12 pm »
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Now DESANTIS joins Trump in threatening to defund the FBI and DOJ to be defunded: Backlash over Alvin Bragg's prosecution grows as Florida Governor demands Congress 'rein in' federal agencies
Daily Mail/UK, Apr 7, 2023

Ron DeSantis has joined Donald Trump's call to defund the Justice Department and FBI over its 'weaponization' of the legal system by its investigations of the former president.

The Florida governor also attacked Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, who indicted Trump earlier this week, saying 'if we had somebody in Tampa that was trying to pursue that agenda, I'd yanked him from his position.'

DeSantis' tough talk comes as polls show that, even in the wake of his indictment, Trump leads him in the race for the Republican presidential nomination. DeSantis has not officially announced he's running but is widely expected to announce a bid.

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Re: Trump Calls to Defund the Police
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2023, 10:18:53 pm »
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Too bad you didn't actually read the article itself.  The title is clickbait.  But then, that's just par for the course from you.

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« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2023, 10:24:41 pm »
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Interesting... bill yourself as "Trump...without distractions!"

Might work.  Sure hard to ridicule Pres. Trump for suggesting it now...the blow has been softened.   :shrug:
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