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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #100 on: April 04, 2023, 08:03:43 pm »
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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #101 on: April 04, 2023, 08:05:28 pm »
Here is a link to the indictment itself:  https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/editorialfiles/2023/04/04/Donald-J-Trump-Indictment.pdf

Time for a bill of particulars, at the least.  The indictment fails to indicate the facts that support the conclusion that there was intent to defraud which included the intent to commit another crime, or to conceal the commission thereof.

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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #103 on: April 04, 2023, 08:06:32 pm »
I'm still not sure what fraud was supposed to have been intended, assuming arguendo that Trump caused company records to reflect the payment to the hooker as something other than a payment for services of a personal nature.

If it was on the records of a corporation, the standard treatment is to treat the payment as a constructive dividend distribution to the shareholder for whose benefit the payment was made, and assess income tax on the amount.

The alleged "intent to defraud" seems really shaky to me, especially since he personally was not charged with tax fraud.

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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #105 on: April 04, 2023, 08:08:36 pm »
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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #106 on: April 04, 2023, 08:08:51 pm »
Newmax reports that 34 counts are basically repetitive like 34 different checks for the same business infraction.

Contrast that vs. an occupant in the WH who likely sold influence to the Chicoms for $millions, and maybe with national security implications.

So bizarre.
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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #107 on: April 04, 2023, 08:09:55 pm »
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Alvin Bragg has shut down the entire city, called up 38,000 NYPD police officers, closed down the FDR Drive and is spending an estimated $200 million of city funds, all for a $130,000 NDA. I never thought I would see this level of corruption in the United States.
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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #108 on: April 04, 2023, 08:10:42 pm »
No Gag order issued

I wonder if one was requested and denied, or just not requested at all.

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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #109 on: April 04, 2023, 08:11:39 pm »
Time for a bill of particulars, at the least.  The indictment fails to indicate the facts that support the conclusion that there was intent to defraud which included the intent to commit another crime, or to conceal the commission thereof.

I think lawyers like to keep these things as open as possible because it allows them to add stuff later at a whim (or as discovery runs across things). Must admit as first glance reading, it is boring as heck and repetitive.
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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #111 on: April 04, 2023, 08:16:14 pm »
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All 34 charges in the Trump indictment are "falsifying business records to conceal another crime." 

"To conceal another crime" is how Alvin Bragg was able to elevate it to a felony. 

But nowhere in the indictment does it say what that second crime was.

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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #114 on: April 04, 2023, 08:20:04 pm »
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BREAKING: NBC News claimed that one of the 34 felony charges for Trump was "conspiracy," which was heavily boosted by liberal accounts.

A conspiracy charge does not appear anywhere in the indictment.

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« Reply #115 on: April 04, 2023, 08:22:35 pm »
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"We cannot and will not normalize serious criminal conduct." -Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg, as he lets violent murders go and prosecutes self defense. A sick joke.
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« Reply #116 on: April 04, 2023, 08:23:03 pm »
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Legal experts LAUGHING at DA @ManhattanDA charging President Trump with 34 felonies. No meat on the bone? Repetitive charges with no naming of what he exactly did? WEAK PARTISAN HACK!
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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
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« Reply #121 on: April 04, 2023, 08:30:38 pm »
Trump will speak to the public tonight...where and what time?
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« Reply #122 on: April 04, 2023, 08:31:03 pm »
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Prosecution asking to hold the trial in January of 2024 right at the start of the primary season. But tell me again how this isn’t a political persecution you 🤡’s
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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #123 on: April 04, 2023, 08:33:41 pm »
The indictment is basically based on so-called charge-stacking, where the prosecutor takes each and every little misstep and turns it into a separate charge.

 

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