Twitter's Elon Musk predicts Trump will win re-election in 'landslide victory' if arrested

[roamer_1]

Well... define populism then. Seems to have different meanings to different people.

This will do as a working definition..:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populism

Its aims are not the point. In its DNA it is nothing more than a strain of popularism - either by the ascent of a popular figure (always without the chops) as a messiah, or by centering around popular themes of the day as the will of the people, ALWAYS requiring profound principle to be sacrificed in order to save the day today. Or BOTH.

Tumpy's movement is no different than any other, demanding the sacrifice of fiscal coservatism and libertarianism on the altar of saving America with big government... When in truth, at the root, the only thing that WILL save America are those very things they summarily destroy.

[LMAO]

While we debate big government populism versus fiscal conservatism, the situation we are facing right now is a debt to GDP ratio well above 100%. We also have inflation that is way too high and wiping out people’s savings and standard of living. Add a soft economy, and the banks aren’t looking too good along with the looming insolvency facing Social Security and Medicare. So this debate is not in the abstract or a concern at some future time

And I think I’m safe in predicting these issues will be more problematic by 2024. No doubt the Biden administration will use budget gimmicks to hide them.

I prefer math

[Kamaji]

While we debate big government populism versus fiscal conservatism, the situation we are facing right now is a debt to GDP ratio well above 100%. We also have inflation that is way too high and wiping out people’s savings and standard of living. Add a soft economy, and the banks aren’t looking too good along with the looming insolvency facing Social Security and Medicare. So this debate is not in the abstract or a concern at some future time

And I think I’m safe in predicting these issues will be more problematic by 2024. No doubt the Biden administration will use budget gimmicks to hide them.

I prefer math

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Ok, but he could bring in people who are policy-based conservatives. Did he do that last time? Well, partially, but as we all know he made some really bad choices especially in terms of his DOJ and such.

Is it realistic to expect a staunch conservative to win in today's climate? If they can't win the primary how will they win in the general?

Obviously, you're not going to turn this country into a laissez-faire capitalist utopia overnight.  But I don't think asking for someone who doesn't openly mock/attack conservative ideas on entitlements is demanding too much.

[roamer_1]

Obviously, you're not going to turn this country into a laissez-faire capitalist utopia overnight.  But I don't think asking for someone who doesn't openly mock/attack conservative ideas on entitlements is demanding too much.

First, do no harm. 

[LMAO]

He's not a conservative.  He just isn't.  He's a populist, and maybe there are a lot of folks who would prefer a populist to a conservative, and that's obviously their prerogative.  But for those of us who are policy-based conservatives, he's just not that guy.

Yup

Maybe we can clone Calvin Coolidge for 2028. We’re gonna need him.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

I had always thought conservatism had a major populist streak anyway, with railing against "liberal elites".

I'm not sure how any "ism" gains any traction without some populism.

[roamer_1]

I had always thought conservatism had a major populist streak anyway, with railing against "liberal elites".

I'm not sure how any "ism" gains any traction without some populism.

Principles, not politics.

Sure there is some - Reagan as the father of the modern movement... Goldwater...
Cruz was a shining boy... But ALL of that is based on merit. Not popularity.

Which is as it ought to be. Walk the line and you will be a famous Conservative.
Because they are so few and far between.

[Gefn]

    DeSantis should expedite him to NY.  Trump's past or present BS is not his problem. 
    He paid into that society for decades, political and otherwise. 
    'Throw him back to the fishes' as somewhat of a @Gefn analogy.

No apologies ever needed @corbe. Just send me kitten photos