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So, you have no substantive response, so you engage in childish name-calling.  Oh well.

Geez...  Blackrock= ESG = Zellinsky, and extra expansion of those D & I and destructive environmental parameters and directives.  Plus direct wasted tax dollars ($B's) to his coffers.....

How can I make it any simplier than that for you.  Just keep licking his boots, you are a lost cause.
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Geez...  Blackrock= ESG = Zellinsky, and extra expansion of those D & I and destructive environmental parameters and directives.  Plus direct wasted tax dollars ($B's) to his coffers.....

How can I make it any simplier than that for you.  Just keep licking his boots, you are a lost cause.

Wow. What an emotional investment you have.  Answer a simple question:  where do you expect the money to rebuild Ukraine to come from?

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Damn, you can not see the forest from the trees can you?   :thud:

That funding doesn't have one damned thing to do with it.  The POINT was that Zellinsky is in bed with ESG and its agenda of Enviro-whacko shit and D&I.

Guessing you are for all that huh?  And this same guy sucking on the left hind teat of our tax dollar Sow?  Connect some dots for a change.

Why should I/we care if Zalensky is using Blackrock and believes in ESG?  Or DEI?   That is purely a matter of Ukrainian domestic policy, and doesn't affect in the slightest whether we here in the U.S. choose to follow ESG, use Blackrock, or support DEI.  One has nothing to do with the other.

That is in contrast to the inherently international nature of military invasions of other countries, which clearly do concern other nations.  I don't care if people mess up their own nations as long as they don't start invading other ones.
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We just want Russian military, mercenaries, and pro-Russian insurgents out of the internationally recognized circa 1991 established Ukranian borders.

Putin wants former Soviet territories and former Warsaw Pact nations to expand Russian control and dominance over the Black Sea and the Baltic Sea.
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https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/oct/03/revealed-anti-oligarch-ukrainian-president-offshore-connections-volodymyr-zelenskiy

This is all I have to add to my previous comments (for now), but I can find more.

Oh, dearie me, he participated in offshore investments, just like millions of other people the world over (other than in the U.S., where the U.S. government, via FATCA, has decided that it has the right to know exactly every jot and tittle of each U.S. citizen's or resident's investments in anything more exotic than a publicly traded U.S. mutual fund).


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Just what, exactly, makes Zelensky bad?  Standing up to the Russians?  Fighting for his own country against foreign invasion?  Aggressively pitching woo to financial supporters for the weapons he needs to fight of the extinction of his own country?

Or maybe it's just that he was a silly little actor prior to getting elected to the presidency?

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/oct/03/revealed-anti-oligarch-ukrainian-president-offshore-connections-volodymyr-zelenskiy

This is all I have to add to my previous comments (for now), but I can find more.

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https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/oct/03/revealed-anti-oligarch-ukrainian-president-offshore-connections-volodymyr-zelenskiy

This is all I have to add to my previous comments (for now), but I can find more.

I got tired of trying to talk sensibly to  the proverbial wall. 

You will not stop his man-love of Zellinskyyyyyyyyyyyyy. Which is fully aligned with Turdle, Linzy, Schumer, and Biden. 

I won't go as far as to say he is their allies, but he sure is aligned with them on the matter of cannonization of this POS Grifter.
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https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/oct/03/revealed-anti-oligarch-ukrainian-president-offshore-connections-volodymyr-zelenskiy

This is all I have to add to my previous comments (for now), but I can find more.

That doesn't make him any more nefarious than hundreds of thousands to millions of other people around the world who had offshore investments through BVI, Panama, and other island nations.  If anything, it means he was dodging Ukraine income taxes on his non-Ukraine investment income, so he's a garden variety tax minimizer, again, just like hundreds of thousands of other people.

Keep in mind, the Panama papers were primarily about tax evasion, not about more nefarious activities.

I find it rather odd that all of a sudden we're going to ally ourselves with the liberal totalitarians who believe that an individual owns his or her investments only at the sufferance of the government, and is required to report all of those investments to the government.

I thought the income tax was a nefarious Marxist technique for overthrowing capitalist societies, and to be opposed whenever possible?

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I got tired of trying to talk sensibly to  the proverbial wall. 

You will not stop his man-love of Zellinskyyyyyyyyyyyyy. Which is fully aligned with Turdle, Linzy, Schumer, and Biden. 

I won't go as far as to say he is their allies, but he sure is aligned with them on the matter of cannonization of this POS Grifter.

Wow.  Such a serious emotional investment in Putin-love.  Here's a little Putin bro-no for ya:


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I find it rather odd that all of a sudden we're going to ally ourselves with the liberal totalitarians who believe that an individual owns his or her investments only at the sufferance of the government, and is required to report all of those investments to the government.



Sez the guy who just endorsed the ESG-Blackrock-Zellinsky alliance.  You really are trying to corner the market on hypocricy aren't you.
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Sez the guy who just endorsed the ESG-Blackrock-Zellinsky alliance.  You really are trying to corner the market on hypocricy aren't you.

:mauslaff:

I endorsed nothing.  I asked why a man who is the leader of a country being destroyed by the Orcs you love should not seek funds to rebuild that country from whatever sources available.  You cannot answer that, and yet you whinge and moan when U.S. money goes to support arming Ukraine, so you clearly are not going to accept having the U.S. fund Ukraine reconstruction.

The only hypocrite here is you.

Here's your Orc-porno again:


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Wow.  Such a serious emotional investment in Putin-love.  Here's a little Putin bro-no for ya:



FU...  Show me one post where I have said anything remotely positive about or pro-Putin.  I have commented in the exact opposite.  Getting sick of your bald faced lies and distortions. 
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That doesn't make him any more nefarious than hundreds of thousands to millions of other people around the world who had offshore investments through BVI, Panama, and other island nations. 
"Any more nefarious"? Probably not, but nefarious, nonetheless.
If anything, it means he was dodging Ukraine income taxes on his non-Ukraine investment income, so he's a garden variety tax minimizer, again, just like hundreds of thousands of other people.
Their country, their rules

Keep in mind, the Panama papers were primarily about tax evasion, not about more nefarious activities.

I find it rather odd that all of a sudden we're going to ally ourselves with the liberal totalitarians who believe that an individual owns his or her investments only at the sufferance of the government, and is required to report all of those investments to the government.
Again, their country, their rules, he came change them as president, can he not?

I thought the income tax was a nefarious Marxist technique for overthrowing capitalist societies, and to be opposed whenever possible?
Up to him to change it, or participate in the graft.

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:mauslaff:

I endorsed nothing.  I asked why a man who is the leader of a country being destroyed by the Orcs you love should not seek funds to rebuild that country from whatever sources available.  You cannot answer that, and yet you whinge and moan when U.S. money goes to support arming Ukraine, so you clearly are not going to accept having the U.S. fund Ukraine reconstruction.

The only hypocrite here is you.

Here's your Orc-porno again:



You just can't stop lying can you?  Read your earlier post giving credence to to Blackrock's offerings, and Zellinsky's response.  Yeah that same Blackrock and Fink who are the Godfathers of ESG.  Now you want to take their roadshow overseas.     Give up before you have any credibility left.
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Wow.  The hatred for a country that is fighting for its very existence against the Russians and their unprovoked aggression is astounding, and the lengths to which this hatred has to be justified because, well, the guy who's president just isn't as squeaky clean as us snowflakes might like him to be is astounding.

So Zelenskyy engaged in some DIY tax minimization, the way that hundreds of thousands of other people worldwide have done.  Gee, that makes him worse than Putin and justifies the Russian orc's invasion of Ukraine.

Golly gee.

But if its tax evasion that makes him dirty, then he's in good company - Trump routinely engaged in aggressive tax planning, and senior management of at least one of his entities has pleaded to tax evasion.  If Zelenskyy is dirty, then so is Trump.

Biden engaged in the same sort of aggressive tax planning by funneling all of his speaking fees through an s-corporation - this is not in doubt, and not subject to the speculations about greater tax fraud - so Zelenskyy is no worse than Biden.

Etc, etc, etc, ad infinitum.

And as for the possibility of a deal with Blackrock - somebody please explain to me why it's so terrible - makes him worse than the Russian orc - for him to work with Blackrock to fund the rebuilding of Ukraine - particularly when the snowflakes in the U.S. will refuse to provide any U.S. funds for that rebuilding.

What is he supposed to do?  Tell ordinary Ukrainians that they'll just have to get used to living in the bombed-out wreckage because (a) the U.S. won't provide any funding for rebuilding, and (b) Blackrock is just too ESG-ey and would make Ukraine look icky to all those U.S. snowflakes if he accepted their money?

Wow.


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Zelensky stayed in Kiev when the US Embassy was running for the doors.  This was a turning point of Putin's invasion.  He leads from the front, unlike recent US Presidents.

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Zelensky stayed in Kiev when the US Embassy was running for the doors.  This was a turning point of Putin's invasion.  He leads from the front, unlike recent US Presidents.

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I don't know, does Biden qualify?

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Don't worry, Joe's on top of it.

"Mr. President, any reaction to Putin pulling out of New START [nuclear treaty]?"

BIDEN: "I don't have time"

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The Russians Are 'Suspending' the New START Treaty; We Should Go the Rest of the Way

By streiff
February 22, 2023

In Russian President Vladimir Putin’s speech Tuesday, he announced that because the United States was being mean and blocking Russia’s vision of “manifest destiny,” Russia would suspend its participation in the New START treaty (Vladimir Putin Uses ‘Historic’ Speech to Whine, Suspend the New START Treaty, and Whine Some More). The important point is that he suspended the treaty; he didn’t withdraw from it.

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Source:  https://redstate.com/streiff/2023/02/22/the-russians-are-suspending-the-new-start-treaty-we-should-go-the-rest-of-the-way-n707035

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Don't worry, Joe's on top of it.

"Mr. President, any reaction to Putin pulling out of New START [nuclear treaty]?"

BIDEN: "I don't have time"

https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1628402519004286976



As I recall...he has already said he wants to talk about "happy things". This ain't happy.

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Putin also took the time to reiterate his claim that the administration of current Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was “neo-Nazi” in its ideology

That is freaking hilarious,coming from a man who is a dedicated Communist,when you consider that Communism was the spark that created Fascism.

Don't forget,in the early days,the USSR and Nazi Germany were allies with pacts for each to come to the aide of the other if they were attacked by Capitalists.
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US policy has driven the geo-political map into a Sino-Russian alliance and pact.

That's really going work out well for us.  /s

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HorseHillary.

Or is that why the Neo-Soviet Union invaded Ukraine? If so,care to explain it?
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Biden and his deep-state handlers seem to have no finesse whatsoever.  That, in short, is how we got here.

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What you are missing is they don't give a damn about "finesse". ALL they care about is cash deposits in their offshore accounts.
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So, Putin is simply a bald-faced liar.

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ALL political leaders are liars.

Putin adds a taste of "bat shit crazy" to the mixture.
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Russia could go back to being Russia if it would just leave Ukraine and stop threatening its neighbors in its pursuit of Soviet Union v2.