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The 200 Greatest Singers of All Time by Rolling Stone
« on: January 07, 2023, 04:56:01 pm »
The 200 Greatest Singers of All Time
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200 Best Singers of All Time

 Aretha Franklin described her mission as a singer like this: “Me with my hand outstretched, hoping someone will take it.” That kind of deep, empathetic bond between artist and listener is the most elemental connection in music. And you can think of our list of the 200 Greatest Singers of All Time as a celebration of that bond. These are the vocalists that have shaped history and defined our lives — from smooth operators to raw shouters, from gospel to punk, from Sinatra to Selena to SZA.

When Rolling Stone first published its list of the 100 Greatest Singers in 2008, we used an elaborate voting process that included input from well-known musicians. The results skewed toward classic rock and singers from the Sixties and Seventies. This new list was compiled our staff and key contributors, and it encompasses 100 years of pop music as an ongoing global conversation, where iconic Indian playback singer Lata Mangeshkar lands between Amy Winehouse and Johnny Cash, and salsa queen Celia Cruz is up there in the rankings with Prince and Marvin Gaye. You might notice that, say, there isn’t any opera on our list — that’s because our purview is pop music writ large, meaning that almost all the artists on this list had significant careers as crossover stars making popular music for the masses.

Before you start scrolling (and commenting), keep in mind that this is the Greatest Singers list, not the Greatest Voices List. Talent is impressive; genius is transcendent. Sure, many of the people here were born with massive pipes, perfect pitch, and boundless range. Others have rougher, stranger, or more delicate instruments. As our write-up for the man who ended up at Number 112 notes, “Ozzy Osbourne doesn’t have what most people would call a good voice, but boy does he have a great one.” That could apply to more than a few people here. 

In all cases, what mattered most to us was originality, influence, the depth of an artist’s catalog, and the breadth of their musical legacy. A voice can be gorgeous like Mariah Carey’s, rugged like Toots Hibbert’s, understated like Willie Nelson’s, slippery and sumptuous like D’Angelo’s, or bracing like Bob Dylan’s. But in the end, the singers behind it are here for one reason: They can remake the world just by opening their mouths.

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Re: The 200 Greatest Singers of All Time by Rolling Stone
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2023, 05:21:26 pm »
My credibility meter stopped when the words  "Rolling Stone". rolled in.

These clowns don't even closely understand or recognize what constitutes musical talent.  I've known that for over 40 years.  I used to subscribe to this parakeet cage fodder back then for rock music news.

For S & G's, read the list and pan and back-think woke and political backstories with each.  I think you might get the picture.
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2023, 05:25:36 pm »
My credibility meter stopped when the words  "Rolling Stone". rolled in.

These clowns don't even closely understand or recognize what constitutes musical talent.  I've known that for over 40 years.  I used to subscribe to this parakeet cage fodder back then for rock music news.

For S & G's, read the list and pan and back-think woke and political backstories with each.  I think you might get the picture.

I never heard of the last 150 of them.... :shrug:
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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2023, 05:39:35 pm »
I never heard of the last 150 of them.... :shrug:

As much as I have kept up with music through the years, I hadn't heard of 56 of the 200 of them.  And as high as #18.

Just file this one under "worthless"

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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2023, 05:45:53 pm »
In Lando’s world - a few favs that come to mind:

- Dean Martin - so cool
- Roy Orbison - the range
- Freddie Mercury - check out his live performances of “Who Wants to Live Forever”
- Steve Perry - yeah, awesome
- Bobby Hatfield - Righteous
- Whitney Houston - breathtaking

There are others, but these came to mind.
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Re: The 200 Greatest Singers of All Time by Rolling Stone
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2023, 05:50:13 pm »
It’s a hogwash list.  Beyoncé is listed way higher than Karen Carpenter?! Karen with a buttery smooth, pitch-perfect voice (no auto-tune needed)?
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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2023, 05:54:56 pm »
What a waste of bandwidth.  Rolling Stone proving again that they don't know jack about music.  Bob Dylan at #15?  My cat has a better voice.

And where is Steve Marriot?  Ian Anderson?  Tony Bennett?
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Re: The 200 Greatest Singers of All Time by Rolling Stone
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2023, 06:01:42 pm »
These kinds of lists are almost always garbage.
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2023, 06:28:58 pm »
Anyone notice.....

I am not a Celine Dion fan by any stretch of the imagination, but the fact this songbird, and her 5 octave perfect pitch range is missing.

Hmmm....

Ohh and how about Pat Benetar with same credentials...

I think a major theme of the list could be characterized......


Not only  White Men can't Jump.....   Apparently they can't sing either,
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Re: The 200 Greatest Singers of All Time by Rolling Stone
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2023, 03:48:28 pm »
These kinds of lists are almost always garbage.
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 I remember back in the sixties when RS wrote an article about Mike Bloomfield naming his as one of a handful of the best guitarists in THE WORLD!!!
I had just started practicing the guitar and thought maybe these guys knew what they were talking about.
Now Bloomfield was a pretty good blues/rock guitarist, but my God, among a handful of the best in the world????!!!!
When I got into guitar I discovered how many great guitarists there actually were in the world. I would bet many of them were better than Bloomfield but few ever heard of them.
Of course, most of these "greatest ever" lists just reflect the  views of whomever is popular at the time.
Somebody in Minnesota drew up a list of the five greatest singers to ever come out of Minnesota. Bob Dylan was on the list, Judy Garland didn't make it.
How's that for being obtuse, obstinate, obdurate, and obnoxious.
Dylan doesn't belong on any "greatest singers" list. He could barely carry a tune then, and is almost totally unlistenable now. I'm saying this as a Dylan fan from way back.

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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2023, 03:51:23 pm »
What a waste of bandwidth.  Rolling Stone proving again that they don't know jack about music.  Bob Dylan at #15?  My cat has a better voice.

And where is Steve Marriot?  Ian Anderson?  Tony Bennett?
If Tony Bennett isn't on a list of the ten greatest singers much less the top 200, then the people making up the list are ignorant aholes.

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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2023, 04:03:42 pm »
None of the top five greatest rock voices of the sixties (Eric Burdon, Joe Cocker, John Kay) are on the list. Alex Chilton was another great rock singer. He's not on the list.
Roy Orbison was probably the single greatest rock voice of the sixties, and there's a ton of people ahead of him.
That tells you the (lack of) intelligence of the people who made up this list

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« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2023, 11:20:15 pm »
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« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2023, 11:24:27 pm »
It’s a hogwash list.  Beyoncé is listed way higher than Karen Carpenter?! Karen with a buttery smooth, pitch-perfect voice (no auto-tune needed)?
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« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2023, 12:22:59 am »
Linda Ronstadt at #47?
Emmylou Harris at #79?
Janis Joplin at #78?
Roy Orbison at #71?
Robert Plant at #68?
Steve Perry at #82?
Karen Carpenter at #132?

Beyonce at #8? Above Otis Redding, Al Green, Little Richard, Freddy Mercury, Sinatra, Ella Fitzgerald, Marvin Gaye and Patsy freakin' Cline? Are they high?

They are seriously confused between singing ability and entertainer.
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« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2023, 01:09:19 am »
Linda Ronstadt at #47?
Emmylou Harris at #79?
Janis Joplin at #78?
Roy Orbison at #71?
Robert Plant at #68?
Steve Perry at #82?
Karen Carpenter at #132?

Beyonce at #8? Above Otis Redding, Al Green, Little Richard, Freddy Mercury, Sinatra, Ella Fitzgerald, Marvin Gaye and Patsy freakin' Cline? Are they high?

They are seriously confused between singing ability and entertainer.
They try to claim that there's a difference between having a great voice and being a great singer.
As if Bob Dylan is somebody you'd copy if you wanted to be a great singer. Even in his glory years when his voice was passable, on many songs Dylan basically "sang" like he was announcing roll call.
I seriously doubt most of the yahoos who made up this list ever heard many of the older singers they give poor ratings to or completely ignore.

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« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2023, 02:17:47 am »
An eclectic group to be sure, but with Seger and Dio in the top 50, along with quite a few others that I know of and like, I'm in...didn't run the rest, but they appear to know great rock singers.
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« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2023, 02:37:35 am »
I'll only comment around my knowledge around rock music and at least in that section IMO... (singing criteria based on (1)tone, (2) meter, (3) range, (4) phrasing, (5) vocal inflection (6)interphase with instrumentation, and (7) charisma)

1. Freddie Mercury
2. Pat Benetar
3. Roy Orbison
4. David Draiman
5. Justin Hayward
6. Roger Daltrey
7. Paul Rodgers
8. Stevie Nicks
9. Ian Gillian
10. Lou Gramm

Again, just my opinion.
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« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2023, 02:42:13 am »
I'll only comment around my knowledge around rock music and at least in that section IMO... (singing criteria based on (1)tone, (2) meter, (3) range, (4) phrasing, (5) vocal inflection (6)interpahse with instrumentation, and (7) charisma)

1. Freddie Mercury
2. Pat Benetar
3. Roy Orbison
4. David Draiman
5. Justin Hayward
6. Roger Daltrey
7. Paul Rodgers
8. Stevie Nicks
9. Ian Gillian
10. Lou Gramm

Again, just my opinion.
I can whole hardheartedly agree with quite a few on your list...don't know of #4 & 5, but that's just my ignorance.
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« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2023, 02:50:35 am »
I can whole hardheartedly agree with quite a few on your list...don't know of #4 & 5, but that's just my ignorance.

Hayward was (is?) the lead singer of The Moody Blues

Draiman is the singer of the band Disturbed.  This is his most famous number..  A Simon and Garfunkel cover....


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« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2023, 02:59:29 am »
Hayward was (is?) the lead singer of The Moody Blues

Draiman is the singer of the band Disturbed.  This is his most famous number..  A Simon and Garfunkel remake....


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« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2023, 03:31:20 am »
They try to claim that there's a difference between having a great voice and being a great singer.
As if Bob Dylan is somebody you'd copy if you wanted to be a great singer. Even in his glory years when his voice was passable, on many songs Dylan basically "sang" like he was announcing roll call.
I seriously doubt most of the yahoos who made up this list ever heard many of the older singers they give poor ratings to or completely ignore.

I frequently do a passable impersonation of Bob Dylan doing "Itsy Bitsy Spider" at parties....
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« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2023, 02:33:51 pm »
I got the feeling that there was something of an "agenda" with that list....

My personal quirk with singers is that I never really liked Freddie Mercury's voice.  To me, there's a preening quality to it that is just annoying.

Also would much rather listen to Kate Bush sing that a whole lot of female (or male) singers on that list.

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« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2023, 06:09:22 pm »
I got the feeling that there was something of an "agenda" with that list....

My personal quirk with singers is that I never really liked Freddie Mercury's voice.  To me, there's a preening quality to it that is just annoying.

Also would much rather listen to Kate Bush sing that a whole lot of female (or male) singers on that list.
I don't like Queen. I can't stand "Bohemian Rhapsody."
Nevertheless, I will admit that Mercury had a pretty good voice.  Just that overall Queen stank as a band.