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« Reply #125 on: January 03, 2023, 07:53:06 pm »
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Per Gaetz press conference.  Looked like they were reasonable concessions to me.....
ALL McCarthy had to do to meet terms for speaker was:

1. Agree to floor vote on term limits
2. Agree to floor vote on balanced budget from committee
3. Agree to push forward Texas delegation Border Plan

Why would McCarthy refuse these?

OK good, didn't realize about the press conference. No those are easy to support, though I'd ask for more, like single issue bills.
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« Reply #126 on: January 03, 2023, 07:54:37 pm »
So we have 19 GOP Reps that actually give a damn about their country.  And we have 203 GOP Reps that only care about their political perks.
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« Reply #127 on: January 03, 2023, 07:55:03 pm »
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Reports are saying McCarthy won’t have the votes as speaker for the second vote. Anti McCarthy republicans are shifting votes to Jim Jordan. Complete chaos. Democrats will vote for Hakeem Jeffries down the board again.
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« Reply #128 on: January 03, 2023, 07:55:17 pm »
I think maybe Scalise is the hole card...

He is the obvious 'unity' candidate, and is wholly unmentioned in the action. If differences remain inconsolable, watch for him to be nominated...

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« Reply #129 on: January 03, 2023, 07:55:25 pm »
Just saw that Dan Crenshaw just called opponents of McCarthy enemies.

Two way street there AH.
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« Reply #131 on: January 03, 2023, 07:57:41 pm »
I think maybe Scalise is the hole card...

He is the obvious 'unity' candidate, and is wholly unmentioned in the action. If differences remain inconsolable, watch for him to be nominated...

Agree.   Though, I prefer Jordon.
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« Reply #132 on: January 03, 2023, 07:57:57 pm »
Jim Jordan's speech nominating McCarthy...... (Video)

 
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« Reply #134 on: January 03, 2023, 07:59:08 pm »
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More pulled together list of GOP No-votes on 2nd ballot
1. Biggs -- Jordan (Prev. Biggs)
2. Bishop -- Jordan (Prev. Biggs)
3. Boebert -- Jordan
4. Brecheen -- Jordan (prev. Banks)
5. Cloud -- Jordan x2
6. Clyde -- Jordan (Prev. Biggs)
7. Crane -- Jordan (Prev. Biggs)
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« Reply #135 on: January 03, 2023, 07:59:36 pm »
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The Republicans can't even nominate a speaker, and they want us to believe that they can govern.

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« Reply #136 on: January 03, 2023, 08:01:55 pm »
Shit!!!  He's going scorched earth.

So what do you think he'll offer the Dems to get the four votes?  Equal representation on each committee and Democrat chairmen?
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« Reply #137 on: January 03, 2023, 08:02:08 pm »
It's pretty clear McCarthy believes he is entitled to this.

It is all about him and not what is best for the country.

I've had enough of the entitlement swamp.

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« Reply #138 on: January 03, 2023, 08:02:51 pm »
Agree.   Though, I prefer Jordon.

Oh, me too! But Gaetz and Jordan are playing the bank shot, setting up the money shot... So it will not be either of them.

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« Reply #139 on: January 03, 2023, 08:03:25 pm »
It's pretty clear McCarthy believes he is entitled to this.

It is all about him and not what is best for the country.

I've had enough of the entitlement swamp.

And the people here defending it.
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« Reply #140 on: January 03, 2023, 08:03:52 pm »
Didn't realize we had so many pageant princesses in our party. It's not about image or brand or how we look, it's what we get done. Get a pair and a thicker skin.

Nobody's going to remember or care about this vote in a month. Rats can smirk and mock and get stuck on that broken record, all the Reps gotta do, is do. Time will march on.

Old empty suit and helmet hair needs to get set back on his heels and knocked down a peg, then maybe we can get down to business and actually get something done.

This is how it should really work in the real world. People have gotten too fat and comfortable.
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« Reply #141 on: January 03, 2023, 08:04:44 pm »
Just saw that Dan Crenshaw just called opponents of McCarthy enemies.

The Swamp has spoken.
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« Reply #142 on: January 03, 2023, 08:05:06 pm »
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« Reply #143 on: January 03, 2023, 08:06:24 pm »
It's pretty clear McCarthy believes he is entitled to this.

Well, he did win the nomination by an overwhelming caucas majority ----- so there's that. 

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« Reply #144 on: January 03, 2023, 08:06:41 pm »
Republicans Gather In Congress To Vote On Who Will Fail The Voters This Time

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WASHINGTON, D.C. — Today, Republicans in Congress are gathering to vote for their preferred politician who will let the voters down over the next two years.

"This is an honorable tradition, where we come together as team players to choose the one man who will most effectively preserve our power while doing the opposite of everything we promised our voters and spending trillions of dollars," said Rep. Dan Crenshaw. "Anyone who opposes our pick is anti-American!"

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« Reply #146 on: January 03, 2023, 08:07:50 pm »
So what do you think he'll offer the Dems to get the four votes?  Equal representation on each committee and Democrat chairmen?

It'll take more like 20 now.  I think before tipping his hand in that direction, it'd cause a mass exodus in GOP votes.

Now that he has his attack dog Crenshaw developing "enemies list", I think negotiaton on McCarthy's behalf with conservatives is long gone.

McCarthy blew it.
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« Reply #147 on: January 03, 2023, 08:08:14 pm »
Well, he did win the nomination by an overwhelming caucas majority ----- so there's that.

So what?

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« Reply #149 on: January 03, 2023, 08:09:03 pm »
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We can’t even swear in as members of congress until we elect a Speaker.
We can’t form committees until we elect a Speaker.
We (Republicans) can’t fire Nancy Pelosi loyal staff in the House & Capitol until we elect a Speaker.
We can’t investigate anything until we have a Speaker.
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