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Next America-class amphibious assault ship to be named ‘Fallujah’
By Diana Stancy Correll
 Dec 13, 04:45 PM
 


U.S. Marines from the 1st U.S. Marines Expeditionary Force, 1st Battalion, 3rd Marines Regiment fire at insurgents Nov. 9, 2004, in Fallujah, Iraq. (Marco Di Lauro/Getty Images)
The Navy’s America-class amphibious assault ship LHA-9 will receive the name “Fallujah” to remember the first and second Battles of Fallujah in the Sunni Muslim province of al-Anbar during the Iraq War.

The name reveal comes after American shipbuilder HII, previously known as Huntington Ingalls Industries, secured a $2.4 billion contract in October to build the ship, the fourth of its class. Construction is scheduled to get underway this month.

“The future America-class amphibious ship will be named the USS Fallujah, LHA-9,” Secretary of the Navy Carlos Del Toro said Tuesday. “The future USS Fallujah will commemorate the first and second battles of Fallujah, American-led offenses during the Iraq War. The name selection follows the tradition of naming amphibious ships after U.S. Marine Corps battles, early U.S. sailing ships, or legacy names of earlier carriers from World War II.

“It is an honor for me, and for our nation, to memorialize the Marines, the soldiers and coalition forces that fought valiantly and those that sacrificed their lives during both battles of Fallujah.”

 https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-navy/2022/12/13/navys-next-america-class-amphibious-assault-ship-to-named-fallujah/
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Re: Next America-class amphibious assault ship to be named ‘Fallujah’
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2022, 11:18:16 am »
This seems like a little carrot for CAIR and Muslims. *****rollingeyes*****
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Re: Next America-class amphibious assault ship to be named ‘Fallujah’
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2022, 04:22:37 pm »
This seems like a little carrot for CAIR and Muslims. *****rollingeyes*****

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Probably hoping to get all the future Muslim voters crossing at the Mexican/US border who are pretending to be Mexicans.
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Re: Next America-class amphibious assault ship to be named ‘Fallujah’
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2022, 05:33:15 pm »
Was Fallujah an amphibious battle?

Fallujah might be more appropriate for an urban assualt vehicle.
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Re: Next America-class amphibious assault ship to be named ‘Fallujah’
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2022, 11:24:18 pm »
Was Fallujah an amphibious battle?

Fallujah might be more appropriate for an urban assualt vehicle.

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Yeah,but the Navy is desperate to look like warriors these days.
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Re: Next America-class amphibious assault ship to be named ‘Fallujah’
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2022, 07:00:22 am »
@DefiantMassRINO

Yeah,but the Navy is desperate to look like warriors these days.
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Re: Next America-class amphibious assault ship to be named ‘Fallujah’
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2022, 11:11:27 am »
If the Chinese make a move, they'll get their chance.

With Biden at the helm, it isn't as much of a given as it once was. *hmmmm*
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Re: Next America-class amphibious assault ship to be named ‘Fallujah’
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2022, 02:29:22 pm »
If the Chinese make a move, they'll get their chance.

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For maybe 30 minutes,then every Naval vessel afloat in Asian water and probably everywhere else will just disappear.

BIG-ass targets with nowhere to hide and too slow to run away.

With the exception of the subs,that is. They will be around to take out the Chinese Navy and ports,but will have no where to dock,so the ones that survive will be looking for a safe place to surface close to a safe shore so the crew can abandon ship and head to shore.

Nuclear subs may have the capability of remaining at sea for decades,but when they run out of food they have to surface so the sailors can come ashore. Providing,of course,there is such a place after a major nuke war.
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Re: Next America-class amphibious assault ship to be named ‘Fallujah’
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2022, 02:31:35 pm »
With Biden at the helm, it isn't as much of a given as it once was. *hmmmm*

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True. With all the American dollars they are pulling in my manufacturing everything we use,they could just buy America from Biden/the DNC as their accomplices in the RNC and save everybody a lot of grief.
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Re: Next America-class amphibious assault ship to be named ‘Fallujah’
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2022, 05:37:32 pm »
@Smokin Joe

For maybe 30 minutes,then every Naval vessel afloat in Asian water and probably everywhere else will just disappear.

BIG-ass targets with nowhere to hide and too slow to run away.

With the exception of the subs,that is. They will be around to take out the Chinese Navy and ports,but will have no where to dock,so the ones that survive will be looking for a safe place to surface close to a safe shore so the crew can abandon ship and head to shore.

Nuclear subs may have the capability of remaining at sea for decades,but when they run out of food they have to surface so the sailors can come ashore. Providing,of course,there is such a place after a major nuke war.
My thoughts on the Ford class flattops is just that: bigger targets than ever.  If they can increase the standoff range and improve missile defense in the fleet, fine, but otherwise, we're in the same boat as the Japs at Midway, with all our nickels on a few ships, and our escort vessels with thinner skins than ever.
The Chinese have subs, too, and I have little doubt they have stolen every bit of technology they can from us and the rest of the world, and their manufacturing is as good as they want to make it. We have funded it with our purchases of their stuff for decades, now.
The scenario of which you speak has been sorta tried in fiction.

As with The Last Ship and The Dawn's Early Light
 the name of the show was "The Last Resort" and dealt with a nuke sub and crew with no place left to go...set up to appear to have defied a valid launch order and declared rogue.

Someone somewhere has war gamed every scenario, and some of it even made prime time, but no doubt that wargaming is ongoing.

IMHO, the Chinese Island Building in the south China Sea hasn't been limited to expanding the Spratleys and others to put in air bases (which, with a kamikaze mentality, severely expands their range with airborne weapons), but has included building 'speedbumps' out there that now and then, US subs have run into. Of course, the captains of the vessels get the blame, but charts are charts, until someone changes the bathymetry. The Sundra Shelf is generally under 300 ft of water or less, and it wouldn't take a lot, considering other island building efforts, to make a few piles out there that could stop a sub cold.
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Re: Next America-class amphibious assault ship to be named ‘Fallujah’
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2022, 05:58:43 pm »
With Biden at the helm, it isn't as much of a given as it once was. *hmmmm*
True, that. But who attacked will not defend?
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